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Sen. Lindsey Graham says that the entire molar investigation was illegitimate from the start will tell you why today on Jay Sekulow lot line from Washington DC Jay Sekulow.

So now we know that the scope of the investigation was to look at Carter page plan Papadopoulos Amanda Ford as to whether or not they were working with the Russians. Now this is in August 2020 17th.

You nailed it in July 20 and skews me January 20 17th.

The sub source this about the dossier and without the dossier. There is no wart so they knew that the Carter page thing was a fraud.

Phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110, so there was no legitimate reason to believe any of these four were working with the Russians on August 2, 2017.

Therefore, the entire molar investigation was illegitimate to begin with and now your host Jordan. Why was the entire molar invests patient illegitimate to begin with.

Well Sen. Lindsey Graham requested that the Department of Justice office of legislative affairs. Finally, send over to him. The memo regarding the scope of investigation and definition of authority for Bob molar special counsel team that he got most of the memo unredacted. Now there is a significant part unredacted and I will tell you there's so there's one individual one individual. We don't know about. In this memo, then I want to start with that because of the hold up.

We hear about Paul Manna for Papadopoulos Michael Flynn and one other individual. Now is it. Is it the Trump campaign or is it the President himself, and you've got to wonder why they still keep this redacted. Yeah, there's a whole lot in this memo Jordan. It has been unredacted. I know were to get to it. There's enough in that portion, but you do have to wonder what is still behind the black lines.

I will tell you people on Capitol Hill are asking the question that you just ask who inside the Trump campaign. Or maybe the President himself. I would put it to you this way Jordan, I have my own suspicions on who it is. But I would tell you this. If it's any United States citizen based on how the investigations were run against the other four individuals in this memo Jordan. They deserved to know I mean whether they committed a wrong or they did not. We know the missteps in this investigation have been so egregious in the violations against US citizens so egregious. If that is a United States citizen. Whether it's a resident of the United States or a minimum-wage worker that has nothing to do with the campaign a Jordan that US citizen needs to know that this group of individuals who abuse their power was also looking at them. We need to know those under the black lines. This was in August 2 20 17th memo from Rod Rosenstein to Bob molar scope of investigation and definition of authority and the first is you are within the scope of the order to investigate quote allegations that Carter page committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President United States in violation of United States law. By the time this memo was written, John Solomon pointed this out a new memo in a new article today by the time this memo was draft sent to Bob molar. We knew this, the FBI had already fired Michael Steve Christopher Steele as informant for leaking. They had already interviewed steel sub source who disputed information attributed him they'd ascertained that allegation. Steele had given the FBI specifically about Carter page, were inaccurate and likely came from Russian intelligence sources as disinformation and FBI had been informed repeatedly by the CIA that Carter page was not a Russian stooge but rather a cooperating intelligence asset for the United States government and yet in the scope, instigation the first person listed Carter page. After all of that information clearing Carter page has been informed of the FBI's learned about this DOJ knows about it. That is part of the reason just part of the reason Lindsey Graham said hold no investigation calls into question how illegitimate it was retaking your phone calls, one 800 684 31 to how interesting it is refining this out find out about the shift 53 depositions yesterday and now today the molar scope of authority will take your calls 164 3110 challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member.

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This, says Sen. Lindsey Graham when he got this it's it's it's a short memo. I mean it's it's put it all together.

Don't include the redaction. It's 2 1/2 pages is short memo in August 2, 20 17th, it laid out the scope and I'll tell you what this was on May 17, 2017. This is Rod Rosenstein to Bob molar. I issued an order entitled appointment of special counsel to investigate Russian interference with the 2016 Presidential election related matters porting you to serve as special counsel. The order authorize you to conduct the investigation confirmed by then FBI director Jim told me in testifying for the house.

Any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associate with the campaign of Pres. Donald Trump in any matters that arose or may arise directly from investigation that line right there that .2 opens the door up to basically everything but now we get a little more specific on some of the individuals Bob molar was targeting more more specifically than just the Trump campaign. Listen to Lindsey Graham bite number six so there was no legitimate reason to believe anything is for working with the Russians on August 2, 2017. Therefore, the entire molar investigation was illegitimate to begin with and that is because the entire dossier list. People like Carter page and others.

George Papadopoulos you look at this is Mike Flynn was completely discredited already.

Before this this scope memo was given to Bob molar that the information was discredited.

They did need to look there because the FBI and the CIA had Artie concluded that this was not accurate information and yet they went off they went on than they did provide exculpatory info on Michael Flynn which we now know was stamped with SCO special counsel's office even though they that was under their purview. Now we know Michael Flynn was under their purview the time. Where the special counsel was was appointed and they can bring that information forward and they carried on this multimillion dollar investigation that led to finding nothing which they should've known because they were told from the beginning by the FBI and CIA.

There was nothing there.

Just like Peter Strauch knew there is no there there.

This was just damage the present and divide the country for years and drag us through the mud.

There was so much sleight-of-hand going on at various points of this during their two main things that bother me about today's development.

The first is that we were continually told by whether was the special counsel or Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein or others involved that the scope of this investigation was narrow, narrow, narrow that they were not going down rabbit trails. It was not open-ended. It was very narrow. We now know from this memo that anything that could've been further from the truth you're writing really. These four individuals in a 50 we don't yet know about. That is what you consider a narrow scope investigation and then the second thing I we were led to believe again by testimony from the same individuals and I would include the special counsel and that because he gave offhanded answers that so much of this happened before he was brought on her. The investigation was opened or the information about the steel dossier was exposed, we were led to believe that they did not look at the dossier Jordan. Those were his exact words and is basically I was brought on after the investigation was opened and after the steel dossier. What was complied with door and if that is the case then Carter page should not be listed in this scope memo that went from Rosenstein to to Robert molar. So he may not have outright said he didn't look at it but Jordan being willing to give the impression that that was outside the scope when here in black-and-white. It is clearly within the scope that is extremely problematic. Jordan yeah I look at then let's look at some the other individual. Some faced serious consequences for this, including Paul Manna for it wasn't just did he commit crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with his back to interfere with the 26 election, which I thought would be the scope of why you'd be looking at this right. Fannie Mae may be looking at Paul Manna for to see if you collude with Russians. No it goes on to say it just shows the bias here was anything wrong with what he did with Ukrainian government consulting which had nothing to do with the Trump campaign was there anything wrong to do with bank loans. He got that had nothing to do with the Trump campaign including with Russia. So even with Paul Manna, Fort Hood been convicted of serious crimes unrelated to anything involving the Trump campaign. Why was the special counsel and not just regular prosecutors assigned that task to take him down. Part of me thinks it's because they had no one else to take down through this. It was so weak, so they needed somebody may be committed. Some crimes usually aren't even charged or looked into that they could take down. And so Paul Manna, Fort.

Unfortunately for him became that targets of the added this on for Paul Manna, Fort even though it was totally unrelated to his work with the Trump campaign. I wholly agree with that, Jordan, because what is the most efficient way to pursue the two crimes that you talked about the one related to Ukraine. One related to a bank loan.

It would have actually been to separated out from the special counsel to review and allow the prosecution to proceed in regular course.

But then, what would have happened.

Jordan, I mean let's say Paul Manna. Fort still gets convicted outside the rate of regular course, the special counsel then doesn't have a scalp to hold up, and I know that's a pretty graphic language. But Jordan literally I think that is why that is included in the scope so that he can referred out in due course and that Lynn at least as you go along. Remember how this happened during the announcements along the way's about, you know potential victories.

I guess prosecutorial victories that the special counsel had and this was one of them by including it in the scope it gave the special counsel the opportunity along the way to show progress even though progress Jordan had nothing to do with what the public was believed was being told was in his purview – two more individuals listed on this scope that are more speaking of, there was a general look inside to see if the Trump campaign colluded or conspired with Russia. Then there were four individuals we know about 1/5 has been redacted. We don't know who that fifth person is, we could assume it's either some it's someone inside the US government currently so is it the present United States present trumpeting it. Just be guessing at this point, but there was a reason to redact the redacted that first for purposes that we don't know about yet. That would take a phone call before you get to the next two because the next two are also egregious for different reasons.

Then Carter page 2 they already knew all the information that was negative about him was made up discredited in the dossier discredited the FBI didn't believe it, the CIA, the intelligence community believe it. In fact, he was an agent of the US government.

He was working for the US government helping the US government in his activities and yet this was still a year later put into the scope of what Bob Muller should investigate and his special counsel table. Let's go to Jerry's call in Rhode Island on line 1 Jerry welcome to Jay Sekulow live your on the air is very much involved with the ability of lawyers to exclude struck blueprint that but every lawyer as strong as God is an attorney and I think we step may be attorney as well. A lot of MPI top FBI officials Jerry are actually attorneys okay so they're all practicing out in every place it but they were all part of your what I want it and we all think CLE every year, which requires an ethical component and the biggest rule I can think of is candor to the court if we if the documents are showing all these attorneys were now all practicing another place. It week if that could be shown date violated candor to the court if they are not an argument that they should have some some professional responsibility.

Punitive action is sick. The minimum standard need to be.

What were really looking at here with you put all this together with Mike Flynn and now this memo is criminal charges mean that that the end of next level would be like disbarment or are any kind of issues with the bar where there was some kind of bar discipline or suspended bar licenses things like that. The real issues here are whether or not this can be criminal charges filed in and I really think there should be Jordan. I actually think there will be I think that's why John during the staffing out but you want you want some rich irony on this case.

Jordan it's a it's not directly related to this memo, but all of this ties together James Comey and Andrew Wiseman, Jordan.

They have both found gigs in the academic world, teaching what teaching ethics yeah courses can you imagine their teaching ethics courses right now that I think that something the American people should know would probably have an interest in and by the way of CLE credit is being granted for taking ethics courses from those two maybe we need to reevaluate the look I really do think the right people are looking at these now. I think John Durham has it under his purview. I know the Atty. Gen.'s looking at it. It does still give me consternation and redact their redaction Jordan but I will say that there might be a good reason for now and I have to take great comfort in the people that are looking at it now. My problem is the four individuals you talked about Jordan until yesterday. They were redacted as well. So Yet mean think about that folks. These are people listen. We haven't named the next two all give you a previous George Papadopoulos.

It was way more than we thought about for him. They were looking into this is like a campaign volunteer and Mike Flynn. Surprise, surprise. Mike Flynn is on this list.

The redacted one listen.

It was the President and we know that the President was completely clear.

Here they redacted because able to throw his name to them, but I understand that wasn't somebody else at their protecting. I don't think so because this came from Bill bar is probably saying reckless, productive through the mud. Someone who is already been cleared through this would take your calls about it. What 100 684 31 to when you put this all together with what we've learned about Mike Flynn saw together what going with Adam Schiff transcripts he refuses to release any put down this whole scope memo out which Lindsey Graham says discredits the entire legitimacy of the Muller want to take your calls 100 684 31 will be right back on Jay Sekulow line only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of weighing 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy mission life today online/challenges facing Americans for substantial time, with or without freedom or constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you for your thoughts. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ pull back with Fox news is reporting now that Adam Schiff is in crisis mode because there is nothing in the transcripts. Nothing in the transcripts that we been time at the 53 transcripts that allude to trump Russia collusion fancy just to go back to that for a moment.

I mean, because I think this all ties together. It's the same thing that he's in a crisis mode about releasing these transcripts because if that is it the case and involved in, you know testimony from top trump officials, including the trumps present from son and son-in-law is top campaign advisors top aides. It also include top Obama officials if it shows that there was no trump Russia collusion. It undermines only how this memo discredits the entire Muller investigations Lindsey Graham said this would undermine everything. Adam Schiff was doing young here from several different sources on Capitol Hill Jordan at that description of chairmanship. It is pretty accurate right now that he is in somewhat of a panic mode, trying to scramble and figure out how to comply with the ultimate release of these transcripts that now looks apparent. It does sound like maybe at some point he is going to put them out in a couple of things are really ironic though door and it does sound like a transcripts show no collusion, which of course is what the report found in the end, but in the intervening space chairmanship was running to the cameras and saying he had direct evidence of a collision.

When these transcripts are out. That's can be very difficult for him to explain Jordan. Maybe the other thing that's more interesting though he's now blaming the intelligence community for the delay seen it took to never mind that he had 43 of those back in and June of last year yet any held onto 10, but sources are telling Fox news. Remember there a lot of members of Congress who were there for these. This testimony, the Republicans were conducting. There is no evidence of trump project Russia collusion in these transcripts so that Adam Schiff is in panic mode. Why did you continue this narrative. Why did we not put this information out clearly and will have to wait for Bob Muller to tell everybody but yet Bob Muller's we just got from friend of ours hate they needed a reason to stay in business for as long as possible so they got federal grand juries to play with, and they don't want to willingly give that up. So let me go to the next. Two people and replace himself, he that's pretty interesting. So George Papadopoulos is the third person listed here.

He was a campaign volunteer. So in the scope, the DOJ wanted to look at whether or not he committed or a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect said okay intervening in the 2016 election the second one was whether George Papadopoulos committed a crime or crimes by acting as an unregistered agent of the government of Israel. First time we've heard that what that would be a fair violation of this was a law until recently the foreign agents registration act was something that you would pay a penalty usually for if the government thought you're violating but now the DOJ is trying to more strictly enforce.

They haven't had a great run it doing that, by the way, I because the same people who are trying to enforce it in the newest person. DOJ tried to enforce it is the same DOJ attorney who withheld all the information about Michael Flynn so they're trying to go after Papadopoulos on a fair violation involving the government of Israel, what does that have to do with Russia collusion with the trump campaign did nothing pulling out all the stops door 90 looking at far looking at the Logan act, trying to you know keep this scope is narrow as possible wholly related on the on Russia except for all of these other things that either are never charged or have nothing to do with the case and, in turn, I think the other thing that's worth mentioning here all due respect to George Papadopoulos.

This is not like a campaign manager. This is a a a low-level staffer in his late 20s who I think is probably a very smart person but that is. This is not someone who was steering the.

The direction of the incoming President of the United States.

That's the level to which the intelligence community apparatus.

What was was trying to engage against American citizens.

Someone in their late 20s who did not have the ear of the President.

Think about this.

I get to Michael Flynn and moment Patty wrote it on Facebook. They all know is alive, from the beginning if they continue down the rabbit hole defined nothing and now they've covered up. That's what Adam Schiff is trying to do with not releasing these transcripts, but Congressman Steve Shabbat listen to him when he questioned Bob Muller about why fusion GPS or he would link the fusion GPS. Why are they not mention it all your 448 page report that relied so heavily. Now that we know from your scope memo on information the dossier, especially the Carter page information why no mention and of course Bob Muller's punting, take a listen.

Fusion GPS produce the opposition research document widened widely known as the steel dossier and the owner of the fusion GPA was someone name Glenn Simpson are pretty familiar with that said outside my purview. Glenn Simpson was never mentioned in the 448 page molar report was a set outside my purview and claim handling the department by other employee was not 440 pages. The, the owner of fusion GPS did the steel dossier started all this is not mentioned in their is not mentioned in their I think Sen. John Kennedy said it best to close this bite 13 after he saw this memo Nicholas about the scope memo. I think based on what items are and what the American people observed throughout the Muller investigation. It always appeared just after the staff scalp and that brings me to Michael Flynn, Michael Flynn, he got the most bullet points even more than Paul Manna for so one was did he commit a crime by engaging in conversations with Russian government officials during the period of the trump transition that would be Logan act violation is never been used before or maybe once before. It was comes from 1799 before telephones. It makes it a crime. Let me just to tell people what the Logan act is it makes it a crime for US state and federal law that criminalized negotiation by unauthorized negotiation by other I authorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the US that why would that apply as a crime to the nationals incoming national security advisor to the present United States during a transition if he was going to talk to a world superpower like Russian. It wouldn't Logan act is likely unconstitutional.

By the way, because never really been applied know it's been charged criminally with this since the invention of modern communication and it's the reason why is because the department just doesn't want to bring charges with it because it would likely declare the whole act unconstitutional. That was the first thing they noted tan to trying to after Michael Flynn on was just talking to Russian government officials during the transition. This after the election, you're coming into office to be the national security advisor for the incoming present United States in a matter of days. Why wouldn't you be talking to the.

The one of the world superpowers amongst others. Yet, if this focus on Russia but I'm sure he was talking to other world leaders and other other international governments as well not talking Russian leaders that would being in that position. Incoming it's dereliction of duty during plain and simple and look I would tell you. I agree with you that the charging the Logan act are looking into investigations of the Logan act is is almost laughable. The Jordan, if there's a Logan act violation here. I mean I you know I think about the fact that Gen. Flynn got crosswise with Pres. Obama. So is this retaliation because there's a political dispute with the outgoing President of the United States amino. There's a Logan act.

I think that one probably is is more apply applicable. The next was even more dangerous. I think Michael Flynn. It was ridiculous because as special counsel is tasked with any committed Michael Flynn commit a crime or crimes and making false statements the FBI when interviewed at his contact Russian government. Now we know the special counsel's office was sitting on the exculpatory evidence. Michael Flynn did not affect line so they got past that we get didn't for the exculpatory evidence. There's more on Flynn it more fair for Logan right to become Mexican half hour of Jay Sekulow life cannot take your phone calls 164 31 decades. ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking.

If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular. We having gone through a sleep to have pages of all, so we know the four individuals. Carter page and by the time they were signed to look the Carter page. The FBI Artie concluded displays of FBI Artie concluded that a Christopher steel had been fired because he was leaking that they interviewed steel sub source who disputed the information attributed ascertain the allegations Christopher steel had given the FBI specifically about Carter page, were inaccurate and likely came from Russian intelligence sources as disinformation and the FBI had been impeded repeatedly for by the CIA.

The papers that a Russian stooge white.

Rather, a cooperating intelligence asset for the US government and yet he is person number one on the scope memo for what the special counsel could look at the scope of investigation and definition of authority, all that information was already out about Carter page, yet they still look into it were still with the phis awards went through the bias.

Looking at not just Paul Manna for with Russia collusion which they never found, but but what he did with Ukraine.

Previous to join the trump campaign and what he did was some bank loan that had nothing to do with the trump campaign lifted a fair violation. They were looking at with George Papadopoulos whether he committed a crime by acting as an unregistered agent as the government of Israel. This is something brand-new and then number four.

We walked through some of the allegations on Michael Flynn. What was the Logan act, which is completely unconstitutional, as many constitutional scholars of said this idea that you a US citizen cannot talk to a foreign government because it may appear that the US citizen is acting on behalf of the US government was written that 1799, when it was a lot more difficult to communicate a lot more confusing. Now it's like, what if you made, you know, he traveled overseas work like the ACLJ and work internationally.

We have international offices at that confuse our office confusing itself actually being the US government.

I don't think so, but is at up to interpretation by DOJ while they never actually brought those charges when you look at the fair acts as well. And that's a foreign agent registration act which does require you to register for your foreign agent in the past. If you didn't do so correctly.

It was a financial penalty. Now it's jail time.

But what was interesting when Michael Flynn was they had the exculpatory evidence on the interview with the FBI and special counsel's office stamp is on that exculpatory evidence that was just uncovered last week and they didn't they didn't know that they can put any of that in the report. They also didn't put in the report that they were looking at whether or not Michael Flynn committed a crime or crimes by acting as an unregistered agent for Turkey so we get offended or far a violation and nothing to do with what trump Russia trump campaign Russia collusion and what's interesting to me stand in and I'll go to Andy on this first anti-Cosmo senior feel former US attorney and Andy is this this was not like things they uncovered later this was stuff. The Department of Justice told Bob Muller and his team to look at. Right from the beginning, the stuff that had nothing to do with trump campaign and Russia government conspiracy know it absolutely did not Jordan Moeller investigation and the appointment of Robert Moeller as the special counsel was a joke from day one. It should never have happened because what Rosenstein wrote in the Moeller in the memo. Moeller already knew that none of those people had colluded with Russia. The whole thing was a hoax from day one right really take your phone calls we come back when he hundred 64, 31, two, that's 164 3110.

We now got any kind of joining us as well. Jim on Facebook wrote it did Moeller even reaches a report if you watched him testify they look like if you read the report looks like. Multiple people wrote it doesn't flow's instructors are bizarre or at least poorly written advanced. Take your phone calls 100 684 31 two this all matters with Mike Flynn transcript shipment release challenges facing Americans for substantial time with our value freedom sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress.

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And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/context I think John Robert Fox is not the Chief Justice John Roberts, the reporter White House reporter said, remember initially all we know about the scope that Bob Muller special counsel team had until what they were looking into as special counsel was one any links or enter coordination between the Russian government and individuals associate with the campaign. At present Donald Trump into any matters that arose or may arise directly from that investigation, even part two gave a lot of breath because if you found anything else out. You could you could pursue that. That's kind of typical law enforcement if you stumble upon other crimes while you're looking at the main aspect of what you've been tasked to look at you not to ignore that okay now we know that the memo eligible to Andy on this split specified five individuals. Andy, two of which we know were already cleared Mike Flynn by the FBI field office in Washington DC and Carter page by the CIA had been cleared eight months to a year before Bob Muller ever got this memo from Rod Rosenstein in the Department of Justice.

And yet, there they are two of the four people we know were specifically targeted by Bob Muller. There's 1/5 person that is been redacted.

We don't know who that person is yet I I would hope that the department Justice and he did that and a good faith effort to protect it, not slander anyone who may be the name is not come up in this or they have Artie been cleared so they don't need this information out about them may be that the present United States or someone close to him. But there certainly a reason why DOJ did that and I think they're acting in good faith Bob Barr by again putting this information up any the fact that it went from those two bullet points of trump Russia collusion, conspiracy, and anything else that arose and also these five specific individuals.

Even though we know at least two of the 40 who the fifth was already exonerated eight months to a year before special counsel Stephen got this memo, Rod wrote that I know what he was doing all along. Talk anybody. Did he have any communications with his fellow government officials about people and what they were doing what they were investigating and the answer seems to me that Rosenstein was completely at sea had no idea what is going on because the facts about specific people to investigate already been cleared. Flynn, for example in page. For example, and yet he says here go look at them.

Moeller and Muller of course following the directions of his direct superior goes and does it, why in the world are they doing that. Does he not know that these people have been cleared to the incompetent of the foolish is he stupid is he intentionally doing these things. Why is he taking this course of action. In this approach when he knows that these people have been cleared.

Finally, the Atty. Gen. now.

Bill Barr says I'm going to let this stuff come out and I am going to redacted. You mentioned the name of the one person because that person had been cleared and we shouldn't support his name out in public like to do the same thing for employment pay why why why did you pursue them in this memo. It seems to me that the scope memo shows the investigation and I'm talking about all of it.

Jordan was, as Sen. Graham says illegitimate to begin with illegitimate to begin with Sir taking your phone calls but I do want to hear that you're from Congressman Dan Crenshaw, Texas is a good bite just to put this in the context by 28. They had an idea. They had a conclusion that a crime that they wanted to proof and they gave themselves the power to try and prove this is this is a horrible horrible precedent to set goes against again every foundation we have an jurisprudence in law and due process. What was he saying there is.

They had all this, if they wanted to prove they had their conclusions. They wanted to take than the present.

They wanted to. So they were conspires Russian agents that the President was a Russian agent and his campaign team. They just had no evidence of that in fact they're being told by the FBI and CIA consistently that there is no evidence of fact the opposite.

The people I Carter page were US intelligence assets. Think about that for a moment, folks, and that is not the way law enforcement supposed to work and you don't say we want to put this guy in jail. So let's go try to figure how to put this guy in jail you you deal with it went with evidence comes to you. You look at whether or not you start investigations, you'll start investigations by just say I don't like the politics of this person. So let's conclude with.

I want to convict them.

I want to remove them from office. I want to get them impeached.

I want to get them. You know, tried by tried by the Senate and I want to see the impeachment even though I've no evidence of it. That's not how investigation is supposed to work there to get whether crimes have been committed not to create crime they were doing with Flynn in the memo that we did recently released him in there to make admissions tell the truth.

Every vendor that lies so we can get him fired that you've already made your conclusion and now you're bending your investigation to create the conclusion and corroborate the conclusion that you've already arrived at that's doing it backwards and into doing it incorrectly and it's contorting and perverting the law and that's when I lay a lot of this at the feet of Rod Rosen's time he was running the investigation after Jeff sessions recused himself. Where was he, why didn't he inform himself with respect to the fact that these men had been cleared and give Moeller the great James Madison student grade, the former Col. of the Marine Corps with a put up there is the as the Apollo poster boy for integrity wanted to give them those instructions will I don't think he had any integrity at all. This fifth person that is not is been redacted by DOJ who remember me until yesterday. All this was redacted by the DOJ is now been released.

The fifth person that would technically be the President also could be someone who is an asset that hasn't been exposed like Carter, page inadvertently by our ridiculous politically charged investigations will be a miracle if the asset had been compromised at this point because the others that were in this report were but Jordan, that would be a good reason for continuing the reactions. Maybe by some miracle to an asset that has a continued to serve the government and be a good reason to keep their identity hidden adjourn. I did want to just very quickly the circle back to a point you made about the special counsel because I remember when the special counsel came to testify in front of Congress and in his very opening Jordan. He said that he wasn't going to talk about the steel dossier so don't ask me any questions about it that predated the sound that you played a just a few minutes ago where Steve Cabot did push him anyway on it and he tricky twice. Jordan said, quote that is outside my purview. Guess what, that sounds very much like a lie to Congress, Jordan, because here in black and white in your hands and in mind, I see a bullet that says Carter pages specifically inside the purview that was granted to Bob Moeller if the if the intelligence community had already cleared him of being a US asset. What is left. Other than the steel dossier. Jordan that's that's very shaky ground for the special counsel having this is when Bob Moeller opened his testimony. This what they was talking about this. He said these are all things are knocking to talk about is all the stuff that's in the memo that we now know about and it's it it is the dossier. Take a listen. Justice Department has asserted privileges concerning investigative information and decisions. Ongoing matters within the Justice Department and deliberations within our office. These are Justice Department privileges that I will respect the department has released a letter discussing the restrictions of my testimony. I therefore will not be able to answer questions about certain areas that I know are of public interest.

For example, I am unable to address questions about the initial opening of the FBI's Russia investigation which occurred months before my appointment or matters related to the so-called steel dossier. These matters are subject of ongoing review by the department. Any questions on these topics should therefore be directed to the FBI where the justice clean and you hear that now week now you put all this in the context and you realize. But so much of the special counsel's work was based off the steel dossier like the allegation about Carter page judge George Papadopoulos's Israeli foreign agent. I mean it it's it's it's absurd.

And now we know about the Michael Flynn information in it that they didn't give over the exculpatory info it was stamped by special counsel's office. Now we all believe Andy that Bob Moeller wasn't running this rate, take people's phone calls we come back when he hundred 64 3110 that's really focus on Karen Rick Lori really get all your calls right we come back for this tax break, but Andy right there that punch by Bob Moeller that we saw over and over again throughout his testimony, which was so undermining to Democrats who wanted to demonize this present make him out to be a Russian agent, those being demonized now in reality, are these former law enforcement officials Jordan that the reason that Bob Moeller didn't find anything. Was that there was nothing to find and before it even started that Sen. Graham has said the FBI and the Department of Justice knew there was nothing Bob Moeller made a fool of yourself before Congress. He couldn't even read his report he wouldn't talk about things. He kept saying I can't live I can do that and the reason was he didn't know what he was talking about. He had other minions 18 prosecuted for out to do one thing.

Put another scalp on their felt one of the scalp with the President of the United States to seek the important chat tried to lock Moeller the dossier with all the things of predated this predated his appointment obviously he was appointed comeback will take you from only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice.

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That said, hey, if you not to release these 53 transcripts I I think I can do it to satisfy the congressional vote looks like Adam Schiff, who supposedly is terrified about releasing these because it shows no Trump Russia collusion from any of the people interviewed including the former Obama people in the former and ending in the trunk people as well that were interviewed but Schiff is now kind of fit for The pressures God to tell people what what is occurred is the biggest spokesman has announced that he will release the transcript couple big caveats here there Jordan.

He says in the coming weeks. While you and I don't know what is left to do. They they want to do their own review and make sure that the reactions are so there if they're still delaying and I think the house GOP, the judiciary are say it right, they say Schiff caves, but will believe it when we see it. The other thing here during that they're announcing is there blaming Rick Grenell's office they say. After months of unnecessary protracted delays in the declassification on behalf of the Odeon I that is now complete and the chairman will release the transcript in the coming weeks.Jordan we all know, last July, 43 of these were done. The chairman was informed about.

He could've released and at that point. So even if he announces that he's about to release these, which is undoubtedly a good thing. The pressure got to him. Jordan he's trying to obfuscate knees trying to blame other people for his shortcoming kind of think about this. Folks last July. It's May last July, 43 of these ready to be released. Why with all 53 because Schiff wasn't handing them over to the director of national intelligence and his staff could review them for classified information – if trying to push the blame so he is saying they're coming weeks. Right now I think the house GOP is right to say judiciary committee staff comes from the House Judiciary Committee Republicans to say that Schiff's cave but will believe it when we see it is rights not to receive those transcripts and see how they read and see how much his team tries to denote, redact, but I think this is a huge breaking news event and all occurred. We put the pressure on Rick Grenell put the pressure on Schiff is well and Schiff instead of salmon in a court if Ricker now tries to this realized I better do this or armor look like an idiot and he now is in the process of doing it.

I should be able to do it immediately. I don't know why this is taking so long. Why will take weeks, but I think he's preparing for the storm. This can become Adam and it's a storm he doesn't have to deal with. But now it does have to deal without a take some your phone call so as well. His think Andy can help answer some these calls, that is great breaking news will get into that more tomorrow. The broadcast we get more info about it literally work. This is not a statement from from Adam Schiff's office will get into that more tomorrow. The broadcast but great breaking news update care in Texas. Thank you for hold on carelessly carried a book that you were on the air. Thanks, Karen coming out about the Moeller report and ultimately the log is that there is a way that nullifies the computers by that unity would take majority of the house turning Republic in the Senate being Republican and you could go back and do that but as it was ultimately acquitted. The report itself. I mean it is there way to say it will and in a sense, the report said nothing, so I'm not sure what else to do about it other than the fact that it it did say nothing. Was it you can't get the money back that they use the taxpayers and certainly I think the more information it comes out. The board is nullified, nullified, afraid that we can't regress the grievance of the painted and discredited Moeller report. The fact is that based upon that the House of Representatives did not determine that there were high crimes and misdemeanors that the political decision that they make, they sent it over to the Senate. The Senate found that the President was not guilty of any of that. We can't rewrite history report is what the report is not. It has been discredited completely and entirely discredited two years, $20,000,000.18 prosecutors who waste of time. A waste of money by the taxpayers of the United States who needed and much more severe circumstances need that money to be placed in other areas. But what's done is done and we and I don't think that we can do much about it. So to Laureate Indiana online one. Lori love the Jay Sekulow lives. I work in your hand. My question is convicted if there any way they can be made to pay back all the way for taxpayer money is convicted of crimes are going to jail. They taxpayer money they'll send out that money was allocated to be spent on the site in there not to be the ones held liable for that. It's of course the man I can expect right now.

Can you get that money back Jordan. Good luck holding into account I would tell you that will save taxpayer money in the future because it will be a disincentive the unofficial stack like this again, and Jordan.

We desperately need that.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I will take Rick's call, I'd I know people always feel this way and and again because she's popping back up in political circles.

Once again, Hillary Clinton, Rick South Dakota you're on the air with all the guys come down from the top from Pres. Obama's office artillery.

Is there anything that can be done be held accountable for. I think it's one they were not in these testimony and interviews. I would like to find their information now. One interesting part.

Now Andy that we know because never they were interviewed in this and I don't think Pres. Obama was not the type he had pretty smart AG's around him who's gonna write a memo to Loretta lyncher, Eric Holder, say do this and neither would like Hillary Clinton, it would be their subsidiaries because of the people right below them. That certainly hurts their presidency, but Andy.

What is interesting now is if we get what were being told is that Adam Schiff's can release these transcripts as will now be able to take those 53, a trans peep testimony. Sometimes it would same person two or three times and look at if they testified in Congress under oath and if there's discrepancies there that would be criminal violations because they lied to Congress or lie to invested one either. They lied when they were given their closed-door testimony or live when they were doing their public testimony directly write what we want to do is look at the transcript to see whether they committed violations of title 18, 1001 would line the federal agents were lying to Congress in order to know that once we see the documents.

I suspect that what they did with, but as I've said yesterday, and I've said many times on this program it will always protect the king, it will always protect the monarch and that is Obama. Whether it's Loretta Lynch or whether it to stooge Eric Holder, who was it Atty. Gen. for all those years. They are going to protect Obama and his supposedly great legacy and don't think that that's not going to happen, anything to do stand you did want to point out just for the showings today. Congressman Jordan has asked Christopher rate FBI director for communications with the executive offices of the present on the Obama administration on the Flynn matter, so there is some some common congressional in inquiry into that. Yeah Jim Jordan and the D just went this week exasperate exactly that information he has for a number of things Jordan, but he clearly believes like the caller did there may have been some communications with the executive office of the President.

He's asked for that information. I would say Jordan, if it exists, FBI director Chris Ray yet. You definitely should send it over absolutely consider this a day lose of information, so I want to do this follows ACLJ.org follower social media accounts. I just tweeted the house judiciary GOP's tweet about shift caving in settings can release the transcript. Great work. Thank you and Vassar, Grinnell. Thank you for your letter strong letter. You will release them if if not I will talk tomorrow for decades. ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ