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October 21, 2021 1:00 pm

Does President Joe Biden wants to the weaponize the IRS in order to spy on your bank account? Jay and the rest of the Sekulow team - including ACLJ Senior Counsel for Global Affairs Mike Pompeo - discuss. This and more today on Sekulow .

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Jay Sekulow drinking is the IRS wants to spy on your bank account in human form and now this is what I hear from you Sharon post, call one 800-6843 11 secular okay just get anymore grace talk about the RSO unit, weapon, rising the IRS or Paris might bump it was to be with us later by the that Joe Biden wants to weapon eyes the IRS in order to spy in your bank account.

We remember I got was involved in that hearing just about two weeks to about two weeks ago. I guess that we had that hearing on Capitol Hill with House Ways and Means Committee on this issue of any transactions your account. That would equate to $600. The IRS can get information from your bank as to exactly what it was. Now that sounds totally absurd because it is. This is without a warrant is without probable cause is nothing they could just think they just start looking at your account well that hearing, which I nice of the support team this morning, evidently got a lot more attention than we thought it did Logan. I guess because now they're backpedaling with the new proposal frankly is just as absurd.

Yet, I think a lot of people does it text messages and calls us like my friends were just confused because how did you go from 600 to know the ideas 10,000 was actually me because it all caught up in the new and it's there is no so here's what it is before it was a $600 transaction. That transaction itself could be subject to an IRS review with no probable cause no warrant, no nothing.

Then they said well because of the outcry and we were never on that and that testimony, I dealt with that and I guess I did a lot more things than we thought it would and they said no doubt would increase it to 10,000 but then we find out, and it's not $10,000 and a one-time transaction which is the old if you put in cash or take out cash of $10,000. There was a report to the IRS by the way that $10,000 number was in 1970, the present value calculation of that $10,000. Now do with keeping up with inflation would've been a $70,000 payment, but now they're saying what's $10,000.

That's not like every account, but it's cumulative is not a one-time payment. It's over the course of the year so that course I can look at anything will absolutely they can, and this is an invasion of privacy that is unheard of in my opinion in the and the Internal Revenue Service was already abusive. The misuse of power.

Got an agency which will add 87,000 agents of the going to do this. That's the number that I heard and what they will be doing is basically saying this. I have a contract between me and my bank with respect to my bank account without any probable cause without any reasonable suspicion that anything but the desire to to snoop and to see what you are doing the aggregating amounts of transaction and if it comes up with $10,000.

They make the bank reported so they can snoop and state and spy on you that have no business doing that in my opinion. We know from personal experience representing the conservative groups. What happens when the IRS has unchecked power absolutely dangerous in the most dangerous things so they can be unleashed without a warrant without probable cause to look at your data, so keep this in mind the average family of four spends approximately $1400 a month on food that is $16,000 a year that exceeds the $10,000 a year threshold that the IRS would receive under the legislation proposed by the Democrats. This means potentially that Susan Rice, AOC and Elizabeth Warren would have access to information about your income and your transactions and this empowers the IRS to have cold-blooded control over each and every transaction in your daily life. Unbelievable. Incredible encroachment were to get into this in great detail of this applicant's call right now. What 100 684-3110.

If you have any questions about this current status of the IRS gives call in one 806. I would hear from people that have had to deal with the IRS but there's one or two out there you feel about the numbing of a look at everything in your basically checking account or call 1-800-684-3110. By the way you think were taken this by doing nothing. No way to find out all about it were to fight back for just a moment, the challenges facing Americans are substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the front lines projecting your freedoms defending your rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to discover many ways your membership in the is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/senior Democrats and commerce agreed to raise the proposed tax reporting threshold from banks from $600-$10,000 but that sounds like okay will that's a little bit more reason because they want to get quote high net worth individuals. Problem is, is not $10,000 one-time transaction which everybody is confusing that with the cash requirement that everyone if you have a computer plus $10,000 worth of cash in 1970 by the way, there would a report was then generated to the IRS which would be $70,000 in today's value.

So it's a completely different scenario here it's $10,000 without $10,000 at first light of the Garrett you have unfettered access your account for any amount amount, not $10 probable cause.

It's your money in a bank.

Let's think about this for a moment why we giving the irises authority in the $10,000 and $10,000 transactional. It's $10,000 over the course of the year in areas you just said you talking about basically grocery money absolutely. So consider this Janet Yellin has gotten rich and her net worth now exceeds $20 million. How did she make her met wealth she cashed in after working for the federal reserve and her net worth. As I indicated earlier, is worth more than $20 million and now through this legislation, she will be empowered to go after the average working man and woman in the United States, on the theory that those individuals are high net worth individuals. This makes no sense.

It is one step in the direction I would argue, of moving toward a police state. Absolutely, you have people who make $10,000 a year doing a lot of different things, whether glasses are the last in 2020, where that was the gig economy that a lot of people had to go through or over driving thousand dollars over the course of the year. A lot of people most people, I'd say that work on that scale are doing that on my transaction.

I say most of the American populace without within this PayPal and Bill about all those different options and hero. Here's where the nonsense is from the federal government. Today's new proposal this Janet Yellin reflects the ministration strong belief that we should zero in on those at the top of the income scale who don't pay taxes they owe while protecting American workers by setting the bank account threshold of $10,000, which is not what the amount is its $10,000 over the course of a year could be $800 a month to your rent to your coming in so many different I make up a 100 things in providing an exemption for wagers like teachers and firefighters that Eddie they may think were crazy here and she's applauding this, but if you are going after the rich with loopholes, personal $10,000 would be the number over the course of the year. No I was not I still fail to see how this measure the $10,000 aggregate in the course of the years new by the IRS.

I still fail to see and to appreciate how that is going to catch tax evaders. I don't see how that's going to happen. Someone needs to explain that to me because I don't understand that I understand what happened with the cash transaction reports that you mentioned that went into effect 50 years ago, anyone drug dealers putting over $10,000 in cash and bank accounts and laundering the money and when the bank saw you come in with $10,000 in cash that you are stupid enough to put into a bank account in order to longer and then they met a CDR report about that. I understand that but that's not what this is and don't be full by thinking that that's what all okay now going to go back to that.

That's not what this is. This is, as Harry Hutchison correctly pointed out and Harry is always very just nuts and bolts. If you spend $1400 a month on groceries over a 12 month period of time. You're going to fall into the IRS net and you're going to be part of the IRS is a militant military analysis of you that is ridiculous and I still don't see how that catches activators. I don't either.

I mean I think that's where this this is just to get the government into your personal checking account. I'm going to talk about your savings account there to be in your checking account. This would so absurd about what they're doing. We know what happens when the IRS gets unchecked power is not good so course, the banks are. I'm glad they're objecting and I got a strong lobby, so maybe they can get it over the goal line here, but I will tell you this this proposal by moving from $600-$10,600 one-time transaction $10,000 over the course of the year changes nothing. They think the American people are this far behind the eight ball on this were not fixing phone calls and if you are calling 1-800-684-3110 Joe is calling on from Colorado online to your on their jump jump right confrontation with the IRS about 10 years ago right after the collapse of the financial market lost my business to battle through everything and people understood what this means that'll think that they would have any idea to support. Importantly, what I care more times than not is well. I got nothing to hide and what I've learned quickly was that matter what you have decided on Heights take that data twisted to tell whatever story they want to and that the IRS came after me in that moment and it took 10 years ago. All of a sudden they showed up at my doorstep because I have state convictions in my business and they said that I had faith that I was a fraud and if I believe in God and that was fraudulent and gradually put that in writing to tax-exempt organizations now just say that they actually put it in writing is unbelievable as that is how did your sendup all the stuff that you brought to light back in 2011 12 when I was like they were there pursuing everybody so you got caught up in because we represented was 4200 organizations anything for 42 clients but there were tens of thousands of groups I got caught up in you. Sounds like you are one of them and they were not just saying those kind of things like your faith in God you believe in the Bible.

They were actually putting this in writing, they still are soon asleep by the ministration got into office. They did this.

We just at a hearing on this I did and the other studio the other day which also had this thing about them IRS monitoring your your checking account. So what happened to Joe you wish you to say was an anomaly. I'm handling one right now I can't get in the details and it's on the state level, but it's what Gillis and now with the IRS. Andy thinks that you can email that you have to send an invite send responses, and by fax.

Let's go to 1982 are not really a perfect machine that I have any right railroads every bullet yeah the right habit of building and then Atlanta.

Good luck on finding by the way fax machine today in order to communicate with the IRS because they won't talk to you any other way.

But what is happened is now that you've got thousands and thousands of IRS revenue agents working from their home and at someone, but we pointed out in our meeting before radio today. That means their children can look at your computer, your finances, and by means of accessing their mother or their fathers computer and find out exactly what you're doing.

That's real secure. Here's the thing we got into the hearing that we had a house Ways and Means. We got into the $600 threshold of what it means only go back.

So flashback here is how long a couple weeks to ask you was how I learned was about two weeks ago I was on where the radius. After watching us on our social media platforms where our main radio studio next-door is what we call that's Nuno Lee but and and we did this price. It was a hearing by Giovanni so that's how they did hearing we were in a are setting their I literally was in that studio they were playing it. Getting it excerpt something here that I was done I want from that student of this studio tell you about the here's what was let's go back and take a listen. Quick all the ways that you can catch Americans or frame Americans. In many cases, that would be available for $600 expenses some suspicious activity reports to become an industry unto themselves for the banks course the banks regard are regulated heavily so they're scared to death anyways. But if you drop drop the $10,000 threshold amount to $600 every single American could be subject to this kind of monitoring with a complete lack of probable cause is not a grand jury subpoena.

This is just a regulatory matter. There's no there's no probable cause there's no warrant. There's no nothing. Resist the IRS get to the first of the banks want to do is get the paperwork involved in this would be outrageous, but the violations here Harry of civil liberties in and of itself is an outrage. If this passes and if it does pass by the way, signed into law if it does, or challenging it, because there is no due process or and you're absolutely right.

And so we have a friend who has a successful YouTube account. I mean he's not wealthy, but he makes 52 let's say $70,000 a year from this YouTube account but is also a conservative and a person of faith and so I think if the end of the day, the IRS would then have the authority to go after each and every transaction he makes and then assess whether or not it's beneficial from the perspective of whom the perspective of globalist elites who want to control each and every aspect of our lives.

Yes, I think, is the first step in that direction you much of the phrase gig economy we come back from break list because I think big test coming up in this the conversation we need to talk about where to go transaction but a high amount of transactions. Low-cost transactions allow people to talk about that coming up and what it's been like last couple years these people to deal with it now having the flip-flopping of not understanding the big thing here who don't understand how it went from 610,000. It really does mean 10,000. That's the discussion. Anything $50. That's is because of the people really need clarification.

If you are calling 164 3110 but you commented on Facebook and YouTube will get some of those only one. A society can agree most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question mission in life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now sort of constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice ACLJ is going on the front lines projecting your freedoms defending your rights" in Congress and in the public and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about our life changing become a member today ACLJ the IRS pretty aggressive when they went in for tea party groups conservative groups pro-life groups, religious groups, we went work in two cases, one in Washington DC and other Ohio got monetary damages get from the IRS and the Ohio case got up very comprehensive order that the IRS consented to a consent decree in the case in Washington DC where we and after the IRS.

As soon as the binder ministration came to power, they started doing exactly what they were not supposed be doing there. They were targeting groups based on what their names were what their positions were and we had the call from Joe where he said they found out that his business had based on biblical principles and all the Sunday was he was basically challenged and I said to Joe and will just say that they put in writing. Now this requirement that you know any $600 transaction has to be reported to be IRS by the banks which by the way banking Association stays in violation Prague shall be that the moment but then they symbol number will increase to $10,000 but it's not $10,000 is not the $10,000.

We take cash out one transaction with cash, and in that would go to the IRS report that was in 1970s to stop money laundering and drug deals not being reported. Okay, that 10,000 would be 70,000 today actually actually mom if they actually kept the loss current which they don't. Of course when it comes the IRS is also most of the ages. My understanding is not of this still true today, but it was weeks ago and not even operating from their offices so your tax information is on the computer at home or your faxing it to them is somebody there to receive it, I guess so.

I was told the other day by a friend of mine is tax lawyer that the IRS told them that I would not want to open up the material now the IRS wants to any transactions cumulatively over a year that it that it will equal $10,000. We have to report American banking Association CEO said even with the modifications mounts they remember was 600. Now they said 10,000 cumulative this proposal is goes too far by forcing financial institutions to share with the IRS private financial data from millions of customers not suspected of cheating on their taxes, which is the whole point of what this is supposed to be about nothing and it's in Congress right now. What is the status of this legislation. While I think they're trying to sneak past the American people Jamie have to keep explaining why this change really doesn't appease her concerns.

Look, I mean it's like the Congress is forgetting recent history here a minute you think about Joe's call just a second ago J they came after a lot of people who had nothing to hide and had a lot of impact.

In one of those impact was a chilling of speech. I think just a fear that your to be targeted by the IRS would change your activity.

The status right now J. Speaker Pelosi has said she wants to consider this bill by October 31. Now I will tell you that's about the fourth time that she set a deadline for consideration of this. So it may not happen by then but I'll tell you Jake, this isn't the only mechanism by which they're trying to get the IRS back involved in the lives of every everyday Americans remember there also trying to repeal the lowest murder rule, which is a victory. We want after those cases you were talking about. That said, the IRS cannot discriminate. So going back to Joe's call. They might have access to his banking account and guess what, if they get their way on both of these provisions, they might be, and be able to access his bank account specifically because of his views monastery for our singular worse and worse are said this in a meeting this morning is absolutely right. I mean Andy, you give the IRS the power to do this, that then they can start doing office.

Fear your you get Medicare if you get Social Security. You know how they work with all of the starts no probable cause of any violation of any law, nothing JI was an assistant United States attorney for five years I was chief of the criminal division. The FBI is nothing that is feared.

The Postal Service is nothing that is feared, the ATF is not feared.

The customs and immigration is not fair in that office. The people in the United States fear most of all dread load worry about the internal revenue service. That's the organization that is dreaded and feared because the power to tax and the power to snoop on your money is the power to destroy you. That's the organization that is the most feared this legislation gives the IRS the unfettered opportunity without probable cause. Without reasonable suspicion, without anything to invade a contract between you and the bank and to make a decision whether or not you're going to be audited because the transactions over a period of a year aggregate more than $10,000. And as you pointed out, and I think we gotta make this very very clear. We're not talking about the cash transaction report where you put 10,000 or more in a bank account or take it out.

That's something that was intended to catch drug dealers and criminals who were dealing in cash. This is intended to catch the ordinary citizen and again I have to have explained to me how in the world is this going to catch a taxi Vader. I don't see that J they set high tax net worth individuals.

Cumulative $10,000 and doesn't do it.

This is ridiculous. This is just the IRS getting into your business go headlong with a yes go to Carolyn in Idaho like three earlier Carolyn I Carolyn also appreciate all you do for the chance to voice. I didn't want to make a comment on her on a ranch where we have like seven or so. He got about 5 to 6 tractors to loppers finally fell at the gas and diesel, one that not like about three maybe four times he hears about $10,000. A batch and if you have parts, you gotta go out and everyone can allow. They're going to get like $600 locking a while sure this is absolutely ridiculous to you, because as Prof. Hutchins documents used used groceries as an example, but your rancher – makes perfect sense to so you got diesel trucks Harry Enos at $600. This diesel fuel is expensive.

You gotta use it. They got repairs.

This puts them right in the middle of their business at the alarm absolutely so if you think about all of the farmers. All of the ranchers in the United States. Virtually every single month. Some of them are expending five or $10,000 on equipment on fuel and other necessary items and they will now be subject to regulation by the IRS and keep in mind in the back of the green new deal is a proposal that is floating but is not yet been announced to crack down. For instance on farmers to crack down on cattle ranchers and one of the ways of doing that is to empower the IRS to go after certain transactions that are seen as quote unquote evil by individuals like AOC, Elizabeth Warren, or whomever and so I think at the end of the day, every single American should take this IRS proposal seriously and they should be energized to talk to their representatives because this needs to be blocked. It needs to be stopped. It really does proposal needs to end. Then you put in the in our chat here that we also why would we trust their description of anything. But let's talk about that and really familiar and what we need to be doing the will talk about mobilizing in a moment, yet so far. They're just talking about a Jane. We've learned this lesson so many times and it actually gets down to drafting the legislation a lot of times their description do not match what gets into the loss of rent after watch. Whether what whether even what they're describing now as bad as it is is what ends up there. J. The other thing I would say is, no matter where they land.

No matter the amount of the criteria.

Why in the world at this moment after track record of abuse would we give the IRS any more power. I would suggest you there's no appropriate amount of criteria to add to this accident are institutionally incapable of self-correcting so let's give them more power. Joe Biden really was my fax machine. Maybe in the communications next be near to Dixie cups in the spring.

Remember that this will be a lot more had my company is joining us.

He settled down on nodule by one weapon is there to get into that with my back still up 164 30 went to take your call have another half-hour coming up local radio station broadcast 11 social media in an ACLJ.ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms and rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thanking God's well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now is J secular alright so you remember about two weeks ago we had a hearing maybe three that the IRS was saying any transaction were $600. The iris to get a report from your bank. Take a look at what you're spending your money on the little I mean, I didn't get much attention to not be at this hearing a lot of attention and then we talked about an on-air and got even more tension and other people started talking about we sit is unconstitutional is no probable cause and a warrant but it's okay when I can be $600 $10,000 was not really $10,000 is $10,000 over the course of the year is basically $800 instead of $600. You realize that you do the math again. I got it changed nothing attracting below the $10,000 cash withdrawal report that the IRS gets from bank to take out more than $10,000, which by the way, as I said was put in place in 1970 the value of that today if they want to modify the law, which of course they don't. Would've been $70,000. We are weapon icing. The IRS were giving them unfettered control. They have no probable cause you've been committed a crime, but just look at what you're spending your money on including the rancher that just called us or the guy that had a business.

It was a faith-based business. We know that only only show hostility to this they put that hostility in writing.

That's how they deal with this particular causing comments on this. My Pompeo is good to be joining us on. He's just another week. That said, Joe Biden wants to weapon eyes the IRS in order to spy your bank account estate but by the way, that's the absolute truth. When you go spy and somebody usually have to get a warrant right any of the probable cause unifies warrant or organize outline you staff to get probable cause unifies a warrant, but apparently under the Obama administration.

You have to do that anymore you can just go in and make statements and you have to have probable cause but in the days that I work for the government, you had to have probable cause in order for the government to look into your affairs. This IRS measure that is being now floated in that we need to really suppress it would give the IRS the unfettered discretion to look into your everyday life in your bank accounts and see what you're doing, so that they can then just check up on you.

This is unconstitutional at its base.

You're right to call Dell into the sea online for Dell $106 $600) thousand dollars, $10 million, whatever. But if they are going to do it.

We know that there tricksters in the first thing we have to add to this clause or what ever you want to call it that we as Americans get to see the bank balances of all these unelected bureaucrats as well as members of Congress and their staff, as well as members of this administration and their staff had to be looking at our account and why don't we get to look at their Congress to get exempt from everything right and you're exactly right Adele by the wife to get exactly what healthcare you got a mandatory Obama care except for Congress.

Absolutely.

So I think Adele is out of the loop. We correct that we should be able to see every single transaction that Elizabeth Warren who lives in a house that's worth at least $2 million makes every single year. So every time she goes to the cleaners. Perhaps we should be able to to take a peek and so I think before this proposal gets inflicted on the American people. Let's have five years worth of investigation of every single congressman and woman and will let the New York Post go through it and basically let us know what's going on with their transactions.

Then they make they might back off in terms of going after every American citizen or let's not let this bill become law. That's what I think if I do stand a chance to beat this back congressionally hundred percent J but the American people have to say they're knocking to stand for this.

I wanted to tell her team right now is an announcement I want to petition upon this I want a bar Capitol Hill with this information I want to make sure we got legal brief ready to go to challenge the Sandy we got to get on this whereon you can rest assured we are not going to let this bill become law by practices IRS abuse be much worse. Alright would backbone J right now.

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But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. You are already a member. Thank you. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable in voice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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I testified house Ways and Means us couple weeks go with the $600 reporting requirement from the bank to the IRS.

Listen, I will move it to $10,000 wells not really $10,000. It's $10,000 primitively, which meant they moved from $600-$800 with no probable cause, no suspicion that you done something wrong, you know, banks are not reported by the way, the banking associations are not so happy about it, nor is our senior counsel for global affairs.

My Pompeo because might be put out of a tweet but yesterday Joe Biden wants to weapon eyes the IRS in order to spy on your bank account and that's precisely what he is trying to do to be with you all day all out all over that for years, I witnessed the personally without the member Congress took seven years ago I watched the IRS collect a conservative group. This is more of the fairness of taking the pool of governmental power in you using a weighted moral and deeply consistent with our Constitution that we we gotta stop what they're trying to do here that we think about when you when you put those kinds of limits when you're talking about 90+ percent of America into a bank account will be subject to IRS scrutiny in ways that will be looking for political activity that will be looking for the kind of thing that we do in our family life just so it did such a great risk had missed the bureaucrat. We gotta stop it and now the moment. You might call just for Mike it was Idaho that is a rancher and they said that their fuel bill for their diesel trucks that the five trucks on their ranch was about $600 a month a little bit more and that the other parts to it.

So she said something to be looking at my fuel bills in my equipment expenditures for my ranch without audit authority is no reason for not if your dishes were just to have them look at it and you're right work working at this somehow gets to the Senate. I can imagine but you know you never know we are going to fight back aggressively because there is no constitutional protection for any American citizen here Mike.

Nothing what you said in your opening comment. No prerequisite only only option.

This is just look if you have a few spare moments they could. But anyone that appeal examples perfect someone who has a mortgage or rental property.

You can imagine Americans will be subject to a random IRS auditor say I think I'm to go take a look at Becca Jones or Sally today and you can be sure that that bureaucracy will be recognized by the administration of this progressive is looking for things that people are doing to protect the family protect their religious freedom and can take their basic rights seriously. I think about that in this case, that which is handled where the suit is by ministration God and they went right back to the targeting, putting in the determination letters you believe the word of God is a factor in your ministry your organization.

We think you're not entitled to tax them. Sadly it's crazy and no warrant semi-quickly and the on that guy wanted to limit Israel for signer but any, the like of probably just brought this up is right, no constitutional protections at all whatsoever in this know there's not you just going to start looking at the Constitution of the United States says that the people of the United States shall be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and that the only time you the government can stick their nose in our businesses that there is probable cause to believe that criminal activity is afoot and I go to a magistrate or judicial officer get a warm okay that's what the Constitution says the Constitution it said that since 1789. Now were in the world are we going here. We are giving the Internal Revenue Service.

The scariest agency of the federal government, unfettered authority to aggregate everything you do in a year to $10,000 and then look at your lifestyle. Look what you donate. Look where you give your money, that's not right back on this. You just came back from Israel course and Secretary of State you what a tremendous job might say that again I thank you for always for the unbelievable changes that we saw in in in the Middle East. I was there for the moving of the opening of the embassy in Jerusalem just got back he had a great piece up@aclj.r.org called unwavering American support for Israel is keyed in the lease piece you just got back and a lot changed since last year with the new administration.

What's your sense of how the Israelis are feeling about the relationship right now.

So there are obvious allies but the best singers really government in government. Ordinary people out there worried about the relationship that is they watched Democrats refuse to underwrite iron, then they flipped the next day right simple task of helping protected areas related directly on the American protect themselves from Arabian rocket fire from the got. They watched within a couple weeks of this administration taking office. They watched the rocket fire from the Gaza strip in the United States issued a press release saying that we all just get along.

Essentially, they ultimately came and that is not the right to protect itself, but it was happened at that. They're very worried about this and now they watched a special envoy, Rob Valley sitting in Vienna talk about.

Well, maybe we just have to live with an Iranian leader, brown rice, he had butcher they would deliver that having a nuclear weapon and that they grow concerned.

They recognize that they may well after that doesn't have the full throated support United States. That's just dangerous for the region and for the world really is you. I know that the current finance minister that Labor Ave., Lieberman that is what did they come there is has been concerned about Iranian concern about Iran since 2013. I'm ramming conversations with him about that the Iranian threat as you just mentioned that the kind of acquiescence that the current administration is saying basically well again and probably get nuclear weapons. We have limited matters. Israel cannot live with it. Can't live with. It is not just the ability you will actually use the nickel at the coercive power comes a lot in the embodied Saudis about Remy, the Egyptians, all of them would live under the threat of an Iranian regime that was what we would like you to do that were going to use this tool.

Notably, unacceptably, Israelis will be forced to take action if they have done so many times before to defend their right, the Jewish homeland, and I have the right to do that they'll have the ability to effectuate it.

I believe that in the end if they had American support. We could protect them from having to make those very difficult and risk a real big conflict in the Middle East. America's relationship with Israel and the Abraham records combined isolated a lot and made the world more peaceful and more prosperous you actually write really appreciate your efforts on that. I was thrilled with that I was there when they go on hikes declaration was signed by a prison trumpet was an unbelievable day.

Let me let me say this term video team.

If you could find the statement from a John Kerry where he talked about Israel had to make a choice that can't be both a Jewish state in the Democratic statement one want to play that for audience in a moment here will let me know. We have it, but you know this.

Moreover, there and I go there a lot maven office in Jerusalem, and the fact of the matter is this is the most democratic state in the region. It's the only place we could practice religion freely.

It's civil society liberal in the proper sense it's the freedoms that are not recognized most of the other neighbors. Even though the neighbors are getting better and I will say the neighbors are getting better as far on these issues, but people don't understand that Israel the little look into vitriol is really the shining beacon of democracy, no doubt about that. I have been thinking 48 when I traveled this last trip just to go visit Sheila famous Geico side of the first Temple. It will remind you of the power of the tribes and the Jewish people of the great things that they have done for that region for an awfully long time, long predating the state of Israel in the late 1940s. They still are pillar of democracy a piece of religious freedom.

Their model that we can only hope to expand in the region despite from another Secretary of State John Kerry because I think this sums up the grass differences and why we got to really keep our eye on the situation, the Middle East, but here is a fundamental reality. If the choice is one state Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic. It cannot be both. And it won't ever really be at peace. You know, this idea that you can't be a Jewish state in a democratic state is ridiculous. I'm I find it personally. Actually, Mike offensive anti-somatic. It's so deeply troubling.

The model that Sec. Kerry traveled the world carrying with him each place he went. The it has is the predicate and and you know the history project.

It has a predicate that is an occupying force, wrongly occupying the special holy land plan through… A great deal date is bent deeply and designed to get the chlorine and it's not far from the things that you would hear people like AOC, stage right, right. It's not far from what you would hear the squad today about about the Jewish people and that they are there somehow wrong to have their own rightful Jewish homeland in the state as we know that we know the importance of Jerusalem, the city of peace and then the Israelis have been in that place a message of placement of people that each and every faith and that's important for people to keep in mind they are not an occupying force right appreciate my thanks for the update. Thanks for your insight about the IRS situation in Israel. I got a book by the way folks call Jerusalem. The tracks all of the history of the Jewish existence in the state of Israel was now the state of Israel, but in that land of Israel wherever you want to get books you can find it there.

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The day I got up but this is this is just that will take the calls were so good friend of ours that grows great were sends me texturing to break. Here's a listing of job openings and Harriet everybody that the IRS has right now you're looking for tax examining clerks there looking for tax examining technicians.

There also hiring in their their tiring appraiser and a general engineering, financial analyst, but he realized what where learning is most of these people working at home so don't wear your tax information is being taxed like us to their house. I have no idea. I mean, I've no idea.

That's great. They want everything by fax, but it just tells you how absurd this whole thing is and by the way for them to do to sing at $600 and $10,000 dollar because they have to look at your account to make the determination if you reach the $10,000 over the course of your expenditure. So of course there in your account disaster not become law. Let's get to the phone calls start going his order they came in with Larry in Ohio, the whole 40 minutes. Larry appreciated we need to send him our book on undemocratic which is about the iris abuse. Go ahead Larry. My question would charge card and up putting everything each month, including our donation to you guys onto our credit card and paying it off so I'm doing 3000 a month to pay off the credit card for month I got the $10,000 so that can account for this nonsense. Yes, the payment to Weber credit card company are using, of course. Which is like a grocery bill absolutely so Larry's analysis is spot on and basically that is precisely the point of this proposal by the government. They want to know what ever you are doing every single day, every single hour and basically if they get this law passed, they will likely go even further. They'll drop it down to $600, perhaps even a year. Let's keep telescope. Floyd is coming on line to Floyd on their grateful for you and I am 68 years old. I just retired nine weeks ago. I will be even a check from Social Security deposit in my account for $2000 every month. Right. So whether it's $600 or $10,000. I'm going to be a target of the IRS that you buy groceries every month. All yes you do put gas in your car.

Yes, your target, and so that they may exempt they said income that Social Security both good but is both inflow and outflow so it's it's both. But what they're doing and you got understand this is in this game really to the last callers point will pointed this out as a good point. So when I can't see what you spend on using your credit card.

That's when the sale we need audit you so in in that the case with your situation. Floyd with the Social Security they may exempt as a review item Social Security inflow but they're not exempting the outflow. Thus, you're still subject to this and again.

Andy really quickly subject to without any want whatsoever. No reason no just absolutely at the whim of the Internal Revenue Service.

The scariest agency and they in the federal government if they decided that in the literature. They look at you. Based upon this law, no more no probable cause. Just moving keep going let's go to Jasper's coming on line 5 Josh with Montana you're on their Joshua called the owner and I own my own little more computer men operate while really big concern for me because the light paying rent as an individual, small business owner, I think back to last year with small shops like mine were told what you can't be open like the morning like they did last year but I think it could be even worse than the part of the problem here and this is why we got let people know we were fighting this on Capitol Hill and this is not on the Oxley party testifies, became to say that hearing is gotten an awful lot of attention and what what is the status because that's a great issue just position was small, small business, which is basically the backbone of the American economy and there can be subject to this as most Americans will be but what is this legislative status of this right now. While legislative status is being negotiated behind closed doors. That's the honest truth case not being brought to the floor yet.

They're trying to work it out between the progressives and the moderates and just very quickly.

I would add to the callers concern means you have a harder time finding employees to because they say incomes can be exempt, but in addition to what you said Jay that when you spend that income and triggers. This provision also what what his income is it just full-time jobs at part-time jobs at crypto transfers. Then Mo Tranter PayPal transfers Logan talked about the gig economy. J. Where is the line can be.

We don't know that yet you don't know a lot of people are concerned about that. Let's go to Ruth is calling Pennsylvania on line 6 Ruth you're there?

19 money market that money from the government approval of the money was coming to mortgage what here's like, because the bank is what happens. The bank is reporting the mortgage deduction to the IRS that's already part of it. So that's how they knew that yeah of course the bank at the reporting requirement and that's how they do it with this. Again we have a contract with the bank between us and our bank to have a bank account and that's not the government's business to interject itself in that.

Based upon this law. I just don't think that constitutionally passes that I don't think I want you to calls in two minutes trying let's cut to Darcy Pennsylvania quickly applied to the three things I Darcy got let yes you now well certainly could be missing weapons of havoc because I will tell you that already indicating that the IRS is basically back into the you know 1940s. I mean I guess in the back of fax machines and I'll say 1980s.

It's it's absurd. It's an agency that's out-of-control they can self-correct and the problem is that this does increase their their involvement in your life that is the biggest problem here right Lily line for you and this I Lillian, your last holiday or on the learner will when people believe I'm Larry and I wonder what exactly this one and it was an attempt to undo what was called the learning which is you can have this targeting because of beliefs and thoughts and then and fan what there was an attempt to get rid of that yet you can't target based on viewpoints.

It was signed into law by Pres. from in 2018 HR one and S1. The elections bill J the proposal and there is to repeal that rule J they just brought that up into the United States Senate again this week, a Republican, stopped for now, they're still trying to push it through. So let me tell you this. Folks, we are fighting this on all fronts. Legislatively administratively over the airwaves were to listen regarding our attention on this. I want some blogs up on this issue today that will get worked on. For that I be a police by this weekend.

If this does become law in the halls of Congress to it not to be.

We will challenge. There is no as Andy said earlier, Mike Pompeo said Harry, there is no constitutional basis for this.

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