BREAKING: SCOTUS Begins Contentious Fall Term

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That's what he hundred 683110 is today the Supreme Court begins its fall term. There are three major cases, what to focus on that are coming up at this record for our oral argument this fall. The first is a major second limit case.

This is an ACO case filed a brief in this case are. This is the city of New York basically tried to prevent the ability to have a concealed carry license and the Supreme Court did again taking up another case similar challenges we saw at a Washington DC before that if all of the Supreme Court and at this case as well. This idea that you have the second limit right how far to the states have to go in upholding that right also give you access to that right and so in New York. The situation involves directly the right to a concealed carry permit and so that takes up first. The major challenge to Roe versus Wade in the Dobbs case. That is, that will be argued December 1 and that so will get a decision in June that is a on the merits challenge to Roe versus Wade. It's a 15 week abortion ban in Mississippi and so this is that a Mississippi and so falls and align the cases that we've seen so this will go before the case is made a lot is at a Texas that has been on the merits, yet that there's been procedural. This is on the merits this and I can't underscore enough a direct challenge to Roe versus Wade ACO case file there as well and then another school choice case we thought after the Espinoza case where the Supreme Court basically struck that explain amendments that were really anti-Catholic amendments back in the day that states adopted the federal government never adopted the court is looking at one of those again.

So this is yet another opportunity to open the door for more school choice options including religious school, so the challenge there specific to the religious liberty case. It's these state constitutional limits that that bar monies from going to a parochial schools and they were the these limits were passed during a heightened head of anti-Catholic and anti-catholic schools movement in the United States which is blatantly unconstitutional. The court saw that the Espinoza case is looking at it yet again in the making case. Another very important. A school choice case we got these three major cases Supreme Court. A lot of talk about the politics of the court that is driving coming into the studio today.

There is other talk about polling on the Supreme Court and this idea that while only 40% of Americans trust rinse reports go. You have to look think about a poll on the Supreme Court.

Most of those Americans could not name a Supreme Court justice and if they could even they wanted out of the nine don't fall. The court regularly. I think that the reason why you even get pulls on this report is because if they take cases that are actually controversial majority of which are not the there are three major case you got Second Amendment challenge to Roe versus Wade eight ads of any school choice case so all three kick. These are highly your outside of law. These are highly partisan issues and second labor rights, school choice rights unfortunately become a highly partisan and of course the debate over abortion. Highly, highly partisan three back really start and analyze each of these cases with our team record L can be joyous to the first half-hour stalker was going on around the world. More of these aggressive moves by China by Turkey C got by our adversaries and even those countries are supposed bare allies will talk about that with him as well. As I encourage you go to ACLJ.org that's ACLJ.org later the broadcast today. The second half hour ACLJ your European surf Lodge essence appeared before the UN.

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I don't title out of a radio audience and you will watch this from various other streaming services. Well, there's a technical issue there that no no other issue faces the technical as they were having with Facebook so you can check out to get it out YouTube rubble and appreciate you going to those of the places I saw that Lincoln would posted as we have the issues of faith, which is a technical issue. I was south of the New York cases New York rifle rifle and pistol Association of her square. Let this is a case at Supreme Court. The New York law since it so to get your concealed carry permit outside the home. You have to show proper because she if that special need for self protection that here's where the echoes that favors the elites write that favor celebrities, the wealthy, not the average person that's not how the second of it reads it sonic right if you can show cause so right off the bat.

I think this law is in serious jeopardy. At this report, you look at the makeup of the court and that the new dresses that have couple arc. At this idea that the Second Amendment rights, i.e. should be. It's okay for me as we see members of Congress try to make those arguments as well who are anti-Second Amendment, but twice it was okay for me. I need the security that's with New York is trying to say is you better make a case to us about why you need the staff you were someone high-profile silver that's a pretty easy case court gives the average citizen even showing cause is a burden on your constitutional right.

I think what's this would right off the bat. I feel pretty confident about like to predict these cases, but this report decide to take this case in the midst of a very strong Second Amendment jurisprudence it when these cases but court items the first and they've done this in a while. Yet you can't really look at any of the limits in our Constitution and the Bill of Rights and say well you know they only apply to you if you if you're special in some way or have yet show proper clause you have protections under an amendment to the Constitution.

And that's really what this New York law saying that in order for the Second Amendment to apply to you.

It doesn't apply to you because you're an American because we have a cost efficient, but only if you can show proper because what you needed. Here's the thing Jordan, the elites, the wealthy people. The left coast elites the East Coast elites, Hollywood actors, people like that they really don't face the same threats day-to-day that the average citizen does in a city like New York City or Chicago or Los Angeles or the crime rate is absolutely going to the roof.

You know, in with the conservative court.

I feel pretty hopeful about this, that they're going to say no, you don't have to show a special special reason some special status in your life some special threat that you have in order to have rights as an American citizen of the Constitution.

What you ACLJ is filed in this case as well.

It's it's important case. I think that this issue hyper- partisan issues it I think you can buy all three of these as we work through them. But when it comes the Second Amendment.

What Lotta members of Congress at least give your wife the idea that they support this idea of the RR brief is important because this this should adopt this as well as classic sick examples.

If one of our First Amendment rights Second Amendment rights Bill of Rights is well you get this right if you can show us that you need Abby's classic political move, but I think that this falls I don't know that Washington might try to use this would politically by think it's saving most of the abortion case we had to might try to use it politically and I would just say even more locally.

Jordan Washington DC has been through this exercise recently.

I mean, you reference the Heller case that was a case out of Washington DC in dealing with a very similar question and I'll tell you when the actual merits and the details of that case sort of made its way to residents Jordan. It wasn't even though Washington DC is a very very liberal city, a very left city of the breakdown wasn't nearly as partisan as you would think when people understood what the issue was when you went to them and you said look, the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. It's not a right that the government grants and if there's can be any restriction or any limitation on that. Where does the burden lie. Jordan, the burden has to lie on the federal government. It can't lie on the individual who has to prove as you are just saying that they are entitled to this right Jordan. They start with that right. In any restriction on any burden to to limit that in any way has to fall on the federal government and when it sort of made its way to the population.

Washington DC even though many of them certainly still supported the restriction that it was a little bit surprising Jordan.

How much of the city's residents.

Otto actually that does make sense. I would expect the same thing to happen in New York yet sated. I would go to the school choice case before getting Dobbs recently spent a lot of times a.org of through that again. That's Mississippi's challenge to Roe versus Wade. But there's also a yet another it's interesting that this report decide they need to hear oral arguments on this case because similar case out of Montana Supreme Court struck down the bans on if you said. If you have school choice Limited to only secular schools Harry and Mary have that precedent. But there looking at it again. You are absolutely correct act and a group of us are working on a religious treatise which looks at this specific case about why because this case arguably goes counter to prevailing US President and one wonders why the first circuit Court of Appeals actually upheld the particular main statute, which is at issue. At the end of the day though, right to send your kid to school in a nondiscriminatory basis is arguably I'll write that the Supreme Court has already upheld and so I think at the end of the day it's highly doubtful that this main statute. Tory provision which prevents parents from sending their kids to a sectarian school will indeed be upheld.

These so-called Blaine amendment cases represent perhaps one of the worst forms of bigotry still left in the United States, anti-catholic bigotry and I think at the end of the day. The parents are entitled to send their kid to a private school. Why because public schools are unavailable in many rural areas of Maine and they are entitled. Therefore, to send their kids to a sectarian school. If that's the best school for their child. So I think this is arguably an easy case.

But I also agree with you Jordan, that I wonder why the Supreme Court did to simply's room. Reverse this case in terms of a summary judgment yet. I did this and get it. I think it's if you base after their press that the existing precedent.

It good for the school choice. It is good also because if your school choice advocate for some of that support school choice clearing these laws making it clear that school choice is legal in the state and if you can open up the opportunity for people to have the choice that you can't exclude a group of schools from a parent's decision member know is forcing you to send your kid to a Catholic school or religious school in these states if you were eligible for the school choice program. If you say if you're eligible these schools if they want to be part of this program have the right to be in the program's records Artie made that clear. But it's like there looking at these state-by-state a circuit by circuit in these amendments to the been on the books. And since the late 1800s about her clearly again, these are discriminatory Abid bids.

The idea that there was this that level of anti-Catholic bias. The United States is something part of our history, but it's still sits on many state constitutions, not to state laws but state constitutions, and so this report states say that though all are bound by this, even though the discriminatory and tie and therefore should the courts take action, but the fact that these cases keep coming is good news for school choice.

Doubt that the big case of what is can get the most attention.

The idea here yet, that this is the that the justification for their idea of court packing or rearranging the court is the Dobbs case out of Mississippi and in the fact that so much attention on these cases involving abortion. But this is a major one because it is is a direct challenge to Roe versus Wade such as like a partial-birth abortion. This is a 50 week bandits to see it's it's it's the most serious abortion case, the court has taken a decades you Jordan.

First of all I would tell you that the fact that the left is threatening to pack the court is probably one of the big reasons why the confidence in the Supreme Court is an all-time low is you just talk about.

I think it's that threat that's threatening the confidence, the court of a yet this Dobbs case Dorney was interesting when the various file sides were filing their briefs in the case of Planned Parenthood and NARAL essentially said what you can't side with Mississippi on this because that would be a change to the fundamentals of Roe and Casey that would challenge the actual merits of Roe and Casey. Surely that can't be what Mississippi is asking for.

Mississippi came right back on top as of yet you got exactly right.

We think Roe and Casey were wrongly decided. We are enacting our state sovereignty to restrict abortion before the accepted stage viability that was set in and wrote clearly that is not any longer in step with medical developments and working a challenge that suggest we think the fundamentals of Roe and Casey should go. We don't disagree with you on that.

So Jordan.both sides challenge zero our folks we come back really drove by record our talks of his foreign policy issues involving turkey also about each item in major dues there that the idea that conflict in Taiwan over that look like for the world is will type it that with Rick as well her to go to ACLJ.org that's ACL today.org. Only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable and is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ secular senior visor for policy national security record that was joining us live out Rick. I will write you this is been a theme as we would talk to you but it's the idea of what's going on in the world that were not paying attention to that is very important to me. One of the issues that is getting some attention today is what were seeing a China and the Chinese aggression towards Taiwan and the idea that you this is this is been the makings of what would potentially be the moniker of the next World War III if all the parties engage that have various treaties and agreements did involve it did involve them in the region of our time is because the aggressive moves by tried a 52 different aircraft that we have fighter aircraft that they are taking aggressive steps and sending a message to one of our allies and it's one of her allies Rick they could shoot back at at a certain point as well. And I don't think it's just about China and Taiwan, but I think it's about America look our listeners. If you're not paying attention. Let me just want the weakness of the Joe Biden administration is causing chaos in the world and Stanley seen it with Russian others. 100,000 shrinks on the border in Ukraine.

We see it all over every part of the world and now what were seeing it really unfold in the back where the Chinese are beginning to think that they would have never thought to do in the trunk administration so there's a lot of people that can complain about Donald Trump's tweets or things that they didn't like about the trunk administration. You really have to look at the dangerous precedent that's been sent by a week President by Biden Rick another with these issues. I'm looking at you. I think I think most of the week this level, but it was one night of the trumpet ministration was very involved and that was that we know what have we got tried an adversary taking these moves we've to stand up with her ally, but we still are seeing these issues with Turkey who was supposed to guard NATO ally and this delivery of a missile system not from the United States that from the Western allies but the AS/400 missile system from the Russians they took part some of the delivery. 2019.

But this was of the trumpet ministration was pushing back aggressively against standard for turkey your work. Busy warning turkey that would solve the system without another one of these issues were there moving ahead with a NATO ally using Russian Russian military equipment to defend itself.

100% unacceptable. The whole idea the creation of NATO is to want Russia is to make sure that the Russians didn't go into Europe and take over the transatlantic alliance and so we need to be very clear eyed about what's happening here with our NATO ally and I hope that the Biden administration can be just as tough on turkey as a trumpet ministration.

We were very clear with the Turks that if you're going to be a NATO ally Juergen have to act like an outline that means not buying Russian material not having a relationship with with Russia when you're a member of NATO and of course everybody knows.

We also demanded that if you pay your bills. You know, in the thing about this whole issue with Turkey Rick is that in a little one is a radical Islamist defector dictator is taken Turkey in a completely different direction, and they may be our NATO ally been under his leadership.

There certainly not our friend Euna. This is why we remove them from the F 35 fighter program under the trumpet ministration. Because of this AS/400 missile system is actually designed to shoot down American aircraft and yet our NATO allies minded. It is really incomprehensible that they're doing this but this is a very difficult issue because as you say Turkey is a NATO ally and member of NATO, since I think tank with water something. It's really been a very long time.

Look on his is made here because he started off not like he's finishing air and he, I'm very concerned about the radicalization of airline over the last years and certainly in the trumpet ministration was by Pastor Brunson and ACLJ had to get involved.

Thank God they did but there's a whole bunch of other issues you know we seen everyone pick fights with the railings of the flotilla the dent there's been a growing problem of airline.

I will say that I put this into the same category as the Russians the Iranians the North Korean and Chinese Taiwan issue and Matt Turkey was not flexing this much muscle. When Trump was in charge, but a field once again with Biden. There's some wiggle room in the past that were circling back to try to Rick. If this was to escalate number_to people because that's why it gets any news at all is that if it does escalate the it's. It is a serious crime were talking about conflict with China. We've got agreements to defend Taiwan. Abby obviously we have a President you have to he's gonna make the call these decisions on that but so is the rest the web. This involves basing the entire world but I think the Pacific and the Middle East and in a whole bunch of regions of Eastern Europe and the Balkans are always chain that Donald Trump was in the White House because when they see no vitamin A there may be the Chinese react like this. I think our attorneys are very nervous looking at the Afghanistan example and saying to themselves.

Is this a President is is a class President, and I have a clear vision and here are the issues and we sent a strong message on. I'm not sure that they have that confidence, I Rick Rick picture joined us today.

I live at the we had a little bit aggressive. I think everybody can hear that at the end. Let me let me just_get the idea. That would once the confidence in the United States begins to wane. It all starts falling apart be to see you see the boldness of these leaders a place of murder want to glisten by 13 pounds like telling time to buy another round of these AS/400 of these Russian missile systems. These laws noted that in the team sit in the future.

Nobody lived here in my terms and what kind of different other than the acquired data from which country that it is really a Kent interfere with that. We are the only philosophers in a because of his visions he could hear you talk big like that.

That wasn't the case last for years. He wasn't able to just do whatever he wants.

As part of NATO part of the data alliances as was pointed out these are missile systems designed to shoot down Western aircraft.

Specifically, US aircraft, so they said what what what why protect yourself from that of course the NATO alliance is to kill is also to fight Russian aggression. So I think putting this all together.

I just I like when we got Rick on that a lot is domestic issues which are certainly Port-au-Prince for the next half hour mostly on those issues but to look at the world, take a step back to hear this news out of China here about Taiwan.

He had so I've been here about that for years and years and just how serious it would be if things got escalate any further safety with Turkey argument. This AS/400 system to you directly after years of this broadcast. You understand the importance of this.

The shift that's outgoing and the weakness the idea that the US had to say no in the world that listing anymore those testers we got used to as a country of able to put our foot down and most of the world are going by what we decided that is not the case anymore since second half hour shift back what work to the Supreme Court cases first day, the Supreme Court today. Be right back secular decades ACLJ is been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking.

If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now is Jordan secular reported to that set say were talking about what's going on world as we focus and a lot of domestic issues here on the broadcast today. Receipt of ACLJ were gates around the world and global issues in all the time I go see the next segment. You know the last 10 days at the United Nations. It's a different time at the UN, but we have engaged on BMR Afghanistan Anglesey Pakistan as well. Us were Europeans for flawed justice different people from the from our organizations.

Whether 13 France team hear the United States or be under the intervention. This is been unique because usually be going to Geneva.

It is interventions in person right now because of the pandemic globally. You're doing these interventions by a video and it just shows the T that we have in place behind the seeds you don't see whether your listing or you don't hear or see if you're watching the broadcast. Why were able to keep all that moving forward. All of our work engaged, almost like it was normal. It may be to some extent at the UN because of the ways that they've opened up for the groups that are approved like we are your able to baby to be born into submission because because of the lack of these other groups not having the sophistication to be able to stay engaged when they don't just show up and now you have that technical ability to do that to continue that work we do with ACLJ we do with your pizza flawed justice as well. But let me reset few mate three major cases require there's other important cases at the court, but I think these three deal with kind of hot button issues Second Amendment religious liberty.

And of course abortion, three major case of the court first for the court will hear is on the Second Amendment just to recap that for you in New York. Your try to pass a law. The city basic to show cause for getting a concealed carry permit.

I think you could all be listing right out realize how that's easy for celebrity is easy for someone who was that your corporate executive who make you a lot of money see a fear of a threat center family, but it's not so easy for an everyday person because you're Artie burdening a constitutional right so you put these birds on testers rights. The strictest of scrutiny is involved in the Supreme Court.

If you look at this court even with the changes that have been date on it. I think those trades have only made it a more friendly court I to the Second Amendment, which it should be because the second of it is so clear I add to and so I think I get this case.

So to get a lot of attention because it does involve the second bib second case, which I think is very poor is the school choice case. This is yet another challenge to this time it made last case was at a Montana same basic situation where state constitution bars resources state resources including tax resources from going any religious institutions.

These were members put in the state constitutions. They try to do at the federal level never happened but states adopted their anti-Catholic commitment. There put there because the growth of Catholic schools and that the history is clear on that, and the court is just saying that if you can open up your state to a school choice program. You can't exclude a religious school that was to be part of the program just because they happen to be religious, and remember the choices that fit state choices to the parents. If they give to their kids religious school and not know it's forcing them know was making them or telling them they have to do that but Harry, the third case the weather is getting the, the, clearly the most attention. It's the direct house of Robert Roe versus Wade. It's the Dobbs case out of the sippy absolutely.

So one of the things that we should consider is that there is a perfect storm brewing at the United States Supreme Court. This perfect storm puts Roe V Wade in the crosshairs of Supreme Court jurisprudence and I think this particular challenge to Roe V Wade has a reasonable chance of succeeding on the merits IPO for tobacco continue to analyze this in the sum of our work at the UN in this case, if you got questions to the supreme court, which were these cases are most important to you. Give us a call one 800 684 31.

Tis the Second Amendment is a life case.

In school choice as all three combined. If you like to visit similarities there between these cases about how you view the Constitution gives call one 800 684 31 to the challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our value our freedom sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades. ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable and voiceless as is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership is empowering the right to life question free, mission life today online ACLJ/this court interpreted working to get the audio I continued out of the court so that's there to continue with that either they are returning back to the building. It's either not allowing people to attend the arguments some press limited press will be in the courtroom, but they are going to have the audio available.

That means on December 1 when the Dobbs cases argued and as everybody does it matter what side of the issue.

Your aunt this is the biggest case involving abortion to be at the Supreme Court in about people say about 30 years so consider lifetime of the court. That's a full shift in the in the US Supreme Court with a course a lot of new justices to weigh in on a direct challenge like this.

There were a lot of people thought the case like this, even be granted CERT with the court even spend its time on this kind of case I would say you take the different court. No different court would not of taking these challenges without even considered these child a direct challenge to Roe versus Wade of it Harry this court do justices appointed by Pres. Trump and so at least there were at least we can know that there were four who wanted to to consider whether this law was constitutional did not just go to the abortion distortion of just of just declaring it a constitutional right to the start. I think that's correct. And I also think this particular case underscores the fact that elections matter of mesh elections have consequences, and one of the consequences is the President's ability to's appoint nominees to the United States Supreme Court and then pursuant to confirmation they get to render decisions and I think God. Pres. Trump has done done a good job in appointing or nominating individuals who believe in principle and so one of the things to keep in mind is that the opponents of Roe V Wade argue that the Constitution itself does not provide for a right to an abortion and bring you to an unlimited right to an abortion. The Democrats, by contrast, they don't really believe in principle they believe in so-called unlimited freedom and the consequence is they are willing to support and we've seen this in state legislatures in New York and in Virginia. The idea that you can have an abortion up to the moment of birth and so I think the Supreme Court has the an opportunity to strike against this so-called unlimited right to abortion and to allow states to promote a pro life agenda that I think is consistent with the United States Constitution. For this effort for our audience.

Have safe ratios a support as this is key, if not the number one issue for them when they decide who they're going to vote for the legislation they support white or even engage in politics, there's a lot of people talking to right now who are engaged in politics because they were brought into the issue and decided hey, I can't sit on the sidelines anymore because I do believe the out that this is life, and that this procedure is murder that we are allowing the United States. So for all those folks, this is been a cold out a long battle.

It's not done yet it's it's certainly happy this this would be I could be one of the most difficult cases to predicted were certainly not can it do that but the idea that these cases are even being heard.

I think part of it. Harry is right, the, the other side of this push so aggressively over these last 30 years.

To be completely unregulated to be able to do whatever they want to not be treated like a normal even like normal medical facilities it you know it's abortion stores that it no laws, no restrictions, we see that fall by the wayside were courts. Is that what you maybe there can be some restrictions, this would be though 15 weeks. The most serious restriction that with that, whatever, but have been upheld by court at it. It's hard for me thing to even imagine 10 years ago this case being taken up by the court. I agree with that you're in a couple of things. I mean first of all with one of the reasons that it's the most important issue for so many voters because without the right to life all of the other things that we fight about and use the word fight loosely Jordan United diplomatic sort of way. In a in a public policy sort of like their meaning less any the argument about whether or not you should play high taxes or low taxes or whether the well for their state should have a long armor short during those those aren't irrelevant if you're not allowed a chance for life. So that's one of the reasons why it's the most important issue in your right and mean that you think back to Pres. Trump's legacy Jordan justices Barrett Cavanaugh and corsets. Their presence on the court.

I I'm convinced is why this case is being heard, but once it is her Jordan. It will be on the merits.

And I gotta tell you, even though the Texas case that you mentioned is not up for hearing this session. I think if you look at those two cases, the one on the Mississippi and the one in Texas.

In conjunction, it underscores the points you just made that the pro-abortion industry has really pushed too far because it end in the Mississippi case you're looking at the, the standard of viability, which back when Roe was considered was typically being believed to be around 20 to 24 weeks. Will Jordan we know conclusively that a child born before that stage can now survive outside the womb I meet my family and I have cared for them personally. Jordan we know it firsthand. You take that, in conjunction with what which what is at stake in the Texas case where Texas instead look if there is activity of a at a fetal heartbeat. If you can hear a heartbeat. There's cardio an activity we think that's a life being defended Jordan. If the left or the pro-abortion industry is now in a position where they are saying that they think a baby with a beating heart should be terminated or a baby that absolutely has viability outside the womb can be terminated. I think that has pushed beyond even the mainstream inside their party.

I think it's an untenable position for them. This seemed out of deposition out West. At that this this extreme pro-abortion position that it's it's no longer. It's not mainstream America used to be, the main treatment is to get in touch abortion did talk about abortion this is that this is a constitutional right that people get confused. I understandably get confused about when you start talking about those constitutional right. It's not like the Second Amendment, which is an issue where there some right in the Constitution we are fighting the limited scope of the right ice completely judicially created. There's no law on the books in the Congress and edge, so you we hear all these threats. The idea of court packing adds up. But this is I think the abortion industry. First is really feeling the pressure that you out of this Texas law. It's prevented your most abortions are occurring. Say what happened Mississippi and of course we go half the country would follow the states of if the court upholds intellect and the left is up in arms over this because they realize that that this has the potential to totally redefine the issue and to reverse some of the judicial acrobatics that were involved when Roe V Wade was decided in the first place in three things have changed over the last two generations. Jordan of the court certainly has changed just in the last few years is a much more conservative court and they look at the Constitution in a much more pure fashion but also public opinion on this has changed over over the last 10 years or so and they realize we are talking about, that the ending of a human life and then science has changed.

We also know about viability and that is then diluted to that that we that babies that would not survive.

You had them had been born this early before we know they do survive that that when the heart is beating. There is a life there and so the viability issue. So the court is change public opinion is change science we know more and that's also is changed and so this case has the potential to really really upset the whole issue back on his heels is worth the left is concerned Harry out what other kits are actually refocusing is a toss that another school choice case and what these are doing.

I can I see the parallels here because what these are due is also opening the doors. Ultimately it's it's it's the court has been striking down any of the barriers in place it's not forcing states to adopt school choice programs is not forcing any by the sender kits to a certain school but is certainly making soap in the recent precedent, the court has been making it easier for school choice laws to survive state scrutiny, but also so that the state legislators and governors know what they can do. I think your precisely correct.

So I think it's very important from a background standpoint to keep in mind that the progressives in the United States and historically have traditionally been anti-religious and orientation they believe that sectarianism should be ruled out of bounds in the United States and in most Western democracies and instead they argued that the Supreme Court should declare the state as a state of neutrality, but it turns out that the Supreme Court needs to intervene in these particular cases why because the state of Maine is discriminating against the parents in Maine who wish to send their kids to a religious school and the Supreme Court. At least in my view, should rule out of bounds.

This anti-sectarian discrimination and restore our faith and confidence. What in the text of the Constitution which protects the free exercise rights of parents and children and does so I think enough fair minded manner. Are we come back to the break, nor are they still chase work internationally read as show you if you're watching her for listing our latest intervention at the UN insightfully about 90 seconds, but this is on Pakistan also that will become that for you as well is continuing in focus on these major case Supreme Court a lot of attention of this term as it is today right back only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice as is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally pro-life and publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to the pro-life side of the many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ secular. I know we covered a lot today on the broadcast what the issues though I was a highlight for the ACLJ continually through our broadcast especially during all this talk about what's going on in the world and in this idea. I think you can feel will be isolated from the world right now doesn't really matter where you live, the United States, certainly the kind of travel that were used to in the.

The idea of just hopping on a flight going wherever you want the world. That's not the case right now that things are starting to change it and have been changing our work at the United Nations's massive international institution which also saves faced a lot of challenges in operating has never ceased has not ceased.

So you see me do the interventions by these interim that's what they're called at the United Nations but it gives us an opportunity where you are recognized by as the UN human rights Council will recognize your pits are flawed justice to bring attention to bring focus to issues of human rights and of course we focus a lot on the religious persecution going on the world.

It's an opportunity. 12 and name these countries to confront the issue but also so that the world is on notice for what's happening is whether it's BMR, whether it's Afghanistan and this what you'll see in this intervention, which just occurred today CCC how from our team at the UN on Pakistan and let me just say the reason why we been able to stay so involved is because really your support for the ACLJ are all the work to be due around the world because our team is able to stay up with all the tech needs because you're not able to just travel put your name on the list and add an address these these bodies right now it takes three or four more back in steps were able to do it no problem because of because of our team that we've gotten course. We got that to because you support the worth ACLJ so let's take a moment here to see I this is important intervention by CC how Pakistan seemed to just present as previously highlighted concerns regarding religious training in Pakistan and various reports to this Council today. We would like to draw this Council's attention to keep cases that require immediate intervention as Pakistani authorities have failed to provide justice first case involves a false blasphemy accusation is not seeing has been in prison for over four years despite the fact there was no evidence against him. In fact, Superintendent of police testified in court which is not is not guilty which is not remains in prison and if convicted, this innocent young Christian man will be sentenced to death. Second case involves a young 14-year-old Christian girl is tragically disappeared. Although her father, James Missy turned over evidence and their 45-year-old Muslim neighbor inappropriately contacting their daughter cell phone over 40 times. At the time of her disappearance. The police receives to investigate even after the Inspector General direct identity sale.

To date this innocent young girl has not been found, and her parents do not know if their daughter is still alive sold into prostitution or forced to convert to Islam and marry a Muslim man. Pakistan cannot allow these types of cases to continue without justice. We request that this counselor remind the government of Pakistan of its national and international obligations and to follow through on its commitment to protect all its citizens including its minorities. Thank you that just another example, and I would have admitted they had beer representative in the United States and prevailing to you. It is well attributed this that we been able to continue this in the time it's so important in a tie with domestic issues been isolated from the world feel like you know things may be artists connected as they used to be an internationally that our work has that we not ceased but is continued its continue to expand, continue to grow that we have a been held back by this pandemic and we had to pit it. I mean that's been true here domestically with United States Congress is been true overseas as well. Whether New York City, Geneva Strasburg and the others, Jordan, but we as you said we been able to do it because of our members. We been able to do it because of the team behind the scenes of the other thing I want to highlight just listening to cc make that inner intervention.

Their achievement mentioned to specific cases. Jordan what it will. I think this is the other component that makes our advocacy so effective in these spaces because of her work on the ground in these places I mean Pakistan is a great example where able to bring to those chambers. Jordan specific evidence and specific information.

I mean I and I know you sat in these chambers as these debate take place in and sometimes I get very archaic. They get very academic and look there's a there's a place for that anywhere. A legal organization that makes legal arguments as well. But when you can put real faces on this cut diaper persecution real cases from her work on the ground and bring them into the chamber, a doorknob and telling it literally people turn their seats to see who's addressing them when you're in person or in this case it's virtually that people perk up and they listen to that specific information. So I think those two dynamics number one. The ability to pit it no more technology technologically driven approach and into a couple that with real experience on the ground. I think it's really bolster our effectiveness again. That was done I that was just today at the United Nations.

So I did all these different issues. Countries that we've talked about a lot whether it's a place like Pakistan or countries like BMR which which we've brought to light as well.

I do it pivot a little bit right here. The last she was the shout because Harry one of things with the Supreme Court. I think everybody has to be on alert for his coefficient. The broadcast today they're talking about pulling their time at that you are the court they're talking about you and I again I think that's a joke because Everett did not consciously polling how you feel about Supreme Court so the idea that they would ask you the question is, is leaving in that sits but the pressure campaign on the court.

This term may not happen as much to the second. I think the picking and choosing.

But the on the abortion case.

Specifically, I think they probably hear that this is it it it it it is not the 1980s that this court's not immune from the pressures at all sub justices. I think more than others, but in the pressure campaign is just beginning on the scribe is threatening the court to be basely dissolved. If they don't do what they what precisely and so we could go back to the video featuring Sen. Chuck Schumer basically telling justice Cavanaugh that if he doesn't vote the correct way that he's going to unleash certain things on the court, but I think at the end of the day.

The left is trying to prepare the American people for training and one of the ways that they do so is by constantly repeating negative stories about the United States Supreme Court.

And so I think the left has launched a plugged public relations campaign.

They want to raise the size of the Supreme Court, perhaps up to 15 they want to institute a mandatory retirement program for Supreme Court justices, but I think at the end of the day. I believe that the conservative justices will stand strong in the face of public pressure and hopefully they will do the right thing which is predicated on the reading of the Constitution. The text of the Constitution and the text of statutory law – certainly you get this time the Supreme Court makes a lot of news at some years where it doesn't I this is obviously this day of particulars. The first day of the court's term. I've still not back to normal. There, in the sense that they are having oral arguments in the courtroom by with a couple reporters but having this so there at the audio going below the major case involving the second live in October that event jobs that you got school choice with the have these kind of cases all the same term. With these new justices that the court obviously there will be so there is a lot of attention, but I think you to be weary of some attention to the court had a pressure care paid by that used to be quiet and that was very public with this idea. Go to ACLJ.org.

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