Breaking: Ben & Jerry's Claims Israel Boycott is not Antisemitic

Scratcher Jerry's claims Israel boycott is not talked about today live from Washington DC line. I think that Ben & Jerry's ice cream is boycotting a country that is solidly for human right and in favor of a territory that on a daily basis. Discriminates against people phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110. But somehow there will by punishing the country that is a beacon of human rights in the area is a sickness. I just don't see how it's an upside down world and I don't see how people can view it any other way. And now, your host Jordan secular secular.

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This issue involving the Jerry's of villagers which is owned by a huge international conglomerate strata of the New York Stock Exchange are Unilever which I be other branches so you know what to ask what you know it's not bitter. Jerry's anymore in the sense of it, such as the Vermont company is bought by a multinational company that owns brands like Dove acts body spray Hellmann's mayonnaise. The list goes on and on. Villagers actually kind of a mid-level show small-company in this conglomerate and they but they were allowed to keep an independent board and that independent board put out a statement on July 19 say that they believe is inconsistent with their values to have Ben & Jerry's ice cream so they are politicizing ice cream which, if any company were to do that it would be Ben & Jerry's. They have a lot of political they were there for college capric ice cream and all these different things, but that they will no longer have the ice cream sold at what they call the occupied Palestinian territory.

Let's explain to people right off the bat that what that means because villagers wants to have us both ways of the insured.

If you're at the beach in Tel Aviv.

They want you to be able to have a bit of Jerry's right, but if you are in a West space what they call we represent. Yes, you would not be so forceful that they make this conclusion when it's about occupied Palestinian territory Austin are also talking about East Jerusalem and their history is incorrect because 1967 when the Arab countries attacked Israel.

Remember it was the Arab countries that were defeated and the Israelis we claimed, which was originally their land. Anyways East Jerusalem which is where you have the Western Wall and you have the old city.

Okay, so if you visit Israel. Yes, the place you go primarily the first place you go to one of her why she got so the occupied Palestinian territory they have made a legal conclusion that this is Palestinian territory and they made another legal conclusion Ben & Jerry's like they should stick to ice cream. By the way they made another incorrect legal conclusion, and that is that this is occupied Palestinian territory. It's not occupied Palestinian territory.

It is really sovereign land we had, we represent some of the settlements, the settlement, but I have 20,000 people in the because I was restarted after 1967 from the settlements of 56 years old.

This is Mrs. but the hypocrisy here.

Andy is really unbelievably only have a minute here. I not only hypocrisy but that ignorance of history. What Israel simply did 1967 was reclaim the territory justifiably belong to it.

And now the ice cream business people are making decisions on legal matters based upon historical matters that are inaccurate as you said many distinct ice cream and stay out of politics because I don't know what they're talking about when they say were going back to pre-1967 boundaries. Those are boundaries that were Israeli territory long before then, you have for Secretary of State ACLJ senior counsel Mike Pompeo joining us to discuss this because this plays right into the boycott, divestment takes big company part of a big conglomerate in this conglomerate would call about getting to that as well.

We saw the Ben & Jerry's statement. So what is the statement of the actual company that owns Ben & Jerry's now and again that just came out last night. That's why this back to the state you Unilever has come out with a statement defending the Ben & Jerry's move they want to have this both ways will be right back on secular American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad.

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Those are people who just bought a franchise so that the silly make this a political statement say with Israel. Even if if Ben & Jerry's is this the corporate level.

They allow the franchisee to come in purchase, you don't have to make the deal and decide where they were going to sell it and integers, what's this both ways, but it doesn't work it so we go to the bigger company.

The bigger company. Here it is Unilever. This is a company this space, the UK and Dutch but is traded on the New York Stock Exchange.

There say that there there putting all of this on the fact the Ben & Jerry's has a independent board that was part of the deal were they bought the bread and so that independent board is made that decision. They don't encourage that but but the independent board if there putting forward policies that are violate the country to visit the law of that country correct, which the board should not be able to override Unilever so here's here's what I think is important for the legal context of this employer so they Ben & Jerry's the company has a franchisee in Israel that actually doesn't just sell the ice cream at stores that actually makes it manufactures that they had a long-standing relationship with them. Under Israeli law, you cannot like in the United States. You cannot say you know it would sell it to this group, but when I can sell it to that group working to sell it to this area, but were not selling it to that area. Here's what's happened. You got a multinational corporation coming in and telling the local franchisee, you cannot sell your product in these areas. Thus, that franchisee Harry is now violating Israeli law on human rights and and free trade precisely and so I think it's important to put this on the table but BDS is a pernicious attack on Israeli sovereignty and this attack is led largely by elites. First, it was academic elites.

Now it includes corporate elites and some of these corporate blue elites have also now joined the critical race movement and they refused to condemn genocide. For instance, in China, but now some of these corporations are saying we have to boycott Israel the most democratic state in the Middle East where people enjoy a raft of human rights.

And they're saying instead that Israel must withdraw from its own sovereign territory.

This makes no sense.

It may make corporate elites feel better about themselves but it is an example of tremendous illogic, but they also here in the don't understand international law.

That's one of the things it's off here is they are making a conclusion making a legal conclusion about an area of Israel and saying that is not Israeli land.

Now they'll get to do that. You are absolutely correct except it's important to keep in mind that in the corridors of power.

Many elites see themselves that's what morally superior individuals.

Therefore, they see that they are above the law, becoming a national tribunal to themselves precisely and that is why litigation is very very important.

Also, anti-BDS legislation is very very important. We must ensure that these firms at the end of the day pay a price may be litigation that someone was there and what I think is important. Point out to is this is the boycott, divestment takes THAT there there loving this because this is this is not just the little Ben & Jerry's ice cream company. This is the huge Unilever and this is like a brand, I beg you let me go through some of the other brands they know they don't. This is small for them to they'll dove they'll help with they'll break it up huge in Europe and throughout the world. Those are just the Billy I was going through a few of the billion-dollar France and the manager just down the list.

They'll do what they would all other cleaning units of Solutia products for your home at like laundry detergent. This is a giant company basal conglomerate was reported. The situation where I think clearly, if they did make this special arrangement would villagers have this independent board ticket so make a political statements that can hide behind. You can't hide behind violating the law. This is not just a statement. This is an action is an action or compelling the franchisee to violate Israeli law, the law that governs the sovereign where they exist, hurting the individual franchisees that worry is I'm good at this.

This decision by a board in Vermont is going to impact a lot of people both in Israel and other places as well in the whole BDS movement J is anti-Semitism writ large anti-Semitism by any other name is still anti-Semitism in these progressive left-leaning woke companies they really do want it both ways.

Although Ben & Jerry's will no longer be sold in the OPT occupy prominent territories. It we will still be available in Israel for a different arrangement well. They also want both ways and that they want to promote their woke, inconsistent, often hypocritical causes, but they don't want it to affect your bottom line and they don't want to be taken to court you don't get it yet.

Well any defendant bothers me here and Scott follow joints as this is a huge multi multi billion dollar corporation we the church, but they had drawn legal conclusions which are incorrect as a matter of law, not correct on the facts and but in fact violation of Israel sovereign law which I will continue to do business. By the way, this doesn't bother these left-wing low companies who have these political decisions that they want to make in connection with their businesses. They need to stay out of the political arena and they need to stick to the ice cream arena, which is very good at what they do.

Unilever is a multi national huge industrial giant of a company and it is now made a political decision that occupied territories are not going to be engaged are knocking to be so their products to make that decision. Under what authority they have. Are they some kind of supranational world court that makes a decision on what is and was not Israel. I don't think Sam directly below you read Jordan looked up with a Savior we will long-standing partnership with our licensee who manufactured Ben & Jerry's ice cream Israel long-standing and distributed throughout the region. We've been working to change this. This is unreal and so we've informed our licensee that we will not renew his license agreement when it expires at the end of next year.

With this great relationship with this licensee.

We had a long-standing one, but because he was gonna sell ice cream in Israeli sovereign territory years. This this is not new to Ben & Jerry's. There's a lot of Ben & Jerry's I'm in Israel.

We been just as lot and eight that includes in the eye what they recall settlements in the West Bank and so they have a solid relationship.

They know it's happening, but they are now bowing down to I guess pressure on their ice cream company, but this would actually make your ice cream company a political statement is that you think you put out statements. You sound like a member of the squad and except for the your company that has to abide by laws, not a politician who could just speak out in what we talk about that you will leave these governments using the court systems we call it law fair and you know now you got these businesses using their their bully pulpit and their corporate structure Harry to create their own kind of law.

Fair rental with come up with what the real statement should be on that what we should call because it's a legal system is law fair, but this skill cancel culture of we don't agree with what Israeli decisions on their own land. So were to not allow our ice cream sold in this town. Well I was going crazy up if Christians objected to something because of the constant but here I guess it doesn't matter. I think your precisely correct. I but it comes back to what I suggested earlier this sense of moral superiority. Yet they have an internal moral compass which is actually superior to international law, but is also important to note that this moral superiority has indeed been licensed by a number of elite actors on the international stage, including the United Nations, which never misses an opportunity to go after Israel. In addition, you have individuals out there like John Kerry, who again have embraced moral superiority. They refuse to acknowledge international law when it doesn't agree with their own principles and so I think at the end of the day. Opponents of BDS opponents of what Ben & Jerry's has done. They need to fashion strategies designed in my view, to inflict retaliatory financial and economic wounds on these complicit institutions like deliver lever and also Ben & Jerry's 8030 second-tier date but they're just so long as a matter of law, making this determination that this is occupied Palestinian territory yes because they have no authority to make that determination.

That determination is not made by an international company or by any company. It's made by the sovereign's Israel is the sovereign in the West Bank that is now Israeli territory as far as the world is concerned, and ought to be concerned that as a factor just like Stuart. Bonnie said, with respect to China and Hong Kong leaving stop selling that ice cream and Hong Kong to stop selling and interrogate a violator of human rights.

You can stop selling it in Russia. Someone who engages in cybersecurity at that point you to make that determination right at second and force her to say my company is to be joyous the next several talk about this with him as well. Of course, is historic Abraham, of course, it beat back the gifts boycott investment sections only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable and voiceless.

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The work we simply would not occur without your generous heart wrenching challenge to make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you today online ACLJ secular joy of our senior counsel for global affairs and former secretary of state Mike Pompeo Isaac to Pompeii. I would write to the Ben & Jerry's issue and people come to hear the set with what's going on within the secular tyrant, ice cream, but this is Ben & Jerry's, which makes political statements and get you to buy it or not, people could choose that on their own, but they bit of the news because they announced they will no longer sell their ice cream and what they call the quote occupied Palestinian territories. It's a big movement for the BDS movement which I secretary Pompeo I think you effectively with the trump administration's had sidelined over these last few years because of the policies in place when you were Secretary of State.

The Abraham records this move by the new administration.

You think I can think they'd say when I couldn't take away the first member rights, but we don't support BDS but you think we have a seed of the resurgence of the BDS movement that the fiber friends would almost certainly the case for companies around the world stated that not all quarterly in support of Israel and the relationship between and out go back to the practices that they had before the trump administration. What we Natalie Natalie made clear that these kinds of activities were unacceptable and that they were the attack on the signage project at date of anti-Semitism built into them by the very nature of the BDS movement but we made clear. We ripped off the Band-Aid on 40 years of US policy and made unambiguous that you can summarily work rightful parts of the state of Israel that that Israel is not an occupying nation, not apartheid. This is loan democracy in the Middle East. Those clear statements those bright lines made this state of Israel stronger and make the BDS movement not only appear but actually have to acknowledge that the actions they were taking more deeply against the Jewish homeland in the anti-somatic.

Things like that.

I thought about on this and it's not just Ben & Jerry's but Ben & Jerry's the tragedy of that situation is and that there may well be some legal action taken by this franchisee in Israel but the company coming out with this occupied Palestinian tort territory determination as if there be some international legal tribunal, which they're not, they forget this is Israeli sovereign land. We represent one of the major with a call seven is been there for decades. Now there's like 25,000 30,000 people in Congress at Sion has a storied history in Israeli war of independence and they were like a lie. They were the last protecting area of to keep the invading forces out of Jerusalem and saved it very interesting story. It's a huge University there. These are not little towns either. These are these are significant developments in a calm settlement only because it work. They were developed after the 67 war something is that some of her 3040 50 years old when you successfully negotiated the Abraham records and we saw this regional cooperation with Israelis neighbor.

Israel's neighbors then a move like this kinda counters that the narrative but it's really a question of governmentally we have to maintain the relationship with Israel and I would hope I was hoping it doesn't really be the case that they would try to build on the Abraham records us administration but I'm not so sure about that right now to break my heart. I thought they would immediately acknowledge that the piece broken out between the Arab states and Israel is horribly acknowledgment of Israel's right to exist would be the basis for how the abide administration would move forward with and that there would be other countries, joint but yet they will even utter the words Abraham accordance it's really quite stunning. The piece brokered by what administration and that administration just walking away from trying to build up but your point is very well taken on the settlement of this is really important for your left message about the places that you describe that you think sports settlement very intentional think that they're temporary and it is a hostile takeover of the flat I was before. Secretary of State actually go teach dance to bear the Israeli land right remember this website contains places like city. Think about like that blabbing Jericho.

These are important places. These are not settlement.

This is Israeli sovereign territory, and I was I was really what I became secular state. It was remarkable to the resistance.

In fact, likely the State Department and elsewhere in United States government to the common sense that understanding that Israel is not an occupying power. These corporations jumping on choices that's outrageous really is. We have a situation now where you got at corporate America Corporation owned by multinational corporation and they try to have it both ways. Please keep selling it. But now we sell it here so they're okay with selling it to Israelis who are socially being that they're bad, but that they don't give up all their business there and they did they did.

I think they've stepped into it again. If you you can go look and see. I've seen it on social media there, people engage in their own private boycotts in the United States of that and if you look at the grocery store Ben & Jerry's might be piling up. Right now it supports the country because of of will host a political statements leading to this, which I think probably puts a lot of people to the hitch yesterday on the broadcast Mike we were talking about the issues with China you just posted a new article@theaclj.org call the nine statements for principles of deterrence response to mounting cyber attacks. How should the administration based China and Russia for that matter on the cyber attacks that were once you start talking about them in that way. What you say these are acknowledge attacks by nationstate actors or actors inside of make you think that half of the United States. We must respond to them as we would any other kind of attack that means developing a responsive strategy development, diplomatic outreach prepared to conduct effective measures one needs to protect the process of the several here in United States and that around the world and then finally it means that deterrence Bob Reagan spoke about peace through strength that would apply to cyberspace as well.

We have to be prepared to respond against it against the place that the attacker logically attacked when you do all the stock was accountable protected come from there sovereign nation, and impose Wilcox cost at a sufficient level that will adequately determine the kind of tech support them to do the hard work of ensuring that the detective take place on the United States was free today. I suggest we saw the DOJ drop charges on Monday against five academics with ties to the Chinese military Chinese nationals that we talked for about that the Chinese Communist Party can of infiltrating our universities the wrong messages right now. I'm interested to try to that were to drop charges will be no these individuals were as they want to told the FBI were instructed to report back to Beijing a lot about the I want to be very careful. Let me make sure everyone is aware of individual committed fraud became a team that didn't require connectivity to the Chinese security services that were properly indicted, they should have been prosecuted and that is outrageous for this administration to kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party by dropping the charges. We appreciate your sensitivity to what we present the information senior counsel for global affairs Mike Pompeo and of course tremendous job Secretary of State and CII McCammon start going back to Congress.

We appreciate my thanks for all the insight and now.

Look forward to seeing you soon. Folks, this tells you, you sit here seen the scope of the ACLJ Ben & Jerry's in the speediest don't think were just politico freshmen were not in us. Right now we don't usually just talk about things on this broadcast so I say would educate you about it because it's not just a joke, such as the needed to learn as world Ben & Jerry's that is Ben & Jerry's its multinational corporation that cannot have it both ways. They had also abide by the laws for the operate they a lot of brands by the way, that are on the line Israel, such as their ice cream think about lifted the cleaning solution. The product this this company be in big trouble if they could have any business at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ live from Washington DC and today we just talked about was her sector state may prepay our senior global affairs piece of writing@aclj.org of the United States must assert principles of deterrence response to bounty cyber attacks that there ACLJanitor. We talked about the cyber attacks we see multiple attacks throughout the summer and for various sources, and so here is represent about the five Chinese nationals yet were sent back at that yesterday on the broadcaster that he got into it and one of the issues that it would oppressive board to share the what he could share is a former Secretary of State what he said was that they were properly guided and what we were one of the excuses from the abide DOJ was that they were at this so what if this is a doubt another political move by the by deep Duchess with China, but they did like the Trump administration was even going after these Chinese nationals. I think that I think that was a big part of, but not what I found Andy to be most interesting aspect of what Mike said on this course.

He's got information will never have nor do we are we entitled to have, but he said yeah yeah that they were indicted. They should've been indicted and they should've been prosecuted because they committed fraud on there be a big allegation is a committed fraud on their visa applications. That's absolutely right, jamming the Secretary of State former Secretary of State just shared with us to the extent because the reality of the of the validity of the indictment in the case or line with respect to the connection to the Chinese military and then and then they get a fasting.

They there there indictment is basically caused by action of the prosecution itself I mean the prosecutor on the verge of trial of the case with start on Monday on the Friday before dismissing the case and then the deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman goes to China. I mean, there's something here that is a career prosecutor smells in my opinion and is not right.

Why is that happening are we training our river.

The obligation that we have to prosecute criminal for some political reason or some political chips with the Chinese is that was happening why we being told to steal advantage of the back of the Ben & Jerry's thing for second, the parent company is doing its multinational corporation doing business all over the globe, including by the way John which at most two most confidential business reducing political statements. Why did they pick on Israel to select the big indignation it really is critical together that are interested. That's it.

Here's the thing. Also, J there are 34 states that have anti-BDS laws on the books which they are required to stop doing business with any company that mortgages rock these laws need to be activated in these 34 states against Unilever and Ben & Jerry's we have Dragon is activating a cheerleader you would be clear not have to grocery store you will take it out there, but usually have a competition, which is what course you for every all that they sell. You got time a second time, gave nothing about endorsing laughter bad for their franchisees. A place where we go a lot for vacation with the kids that if one of the franchises Ben & Jerry's my daughter loves she's not making political status is five told she wants to franchisees in either. I gag I have a feeling it and where this is located so I go like this is just a fun franchise that it's a fun shop of the comes with all these flavors of people know but this is getting hurt their business to make that franchising think maybe I should's vagueness. It switches to another brand will that's what could end up happening here, but it so it it what you said earlier.

This identity got these women here. Corporate elites making the their side. What territories Israel sovereign territory in which is not there. The site was occupied territory as if they have the right to do this well. Not only that they are gifted with something else called hypocrisy because they are quite willing to do business. For instance, with China within, yet they want to boycott the Israel's sovereignty with respect to so-called occupied territories.

It makes no sense, but I think at the end of the day there quite willing to boycott Israel for purposes of political correctness, but they are going to embrace the enslavement of human beings in China when they can make money off of. Will Haynes points out that the independent owners of the Ben & Jerry's at was hundred fourth and Broadway in New York will donate 10% of profits to educational causes in the state of Israel all that this is hurt all of them. That's why the corporations making political statements very dangerous really talk about what that command we need to think it dangerous for these to be paid their franchisees, but for the big company to the American Center for one engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those faith uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful.

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You cannot divorce it from widespread anti-Semitism. No place is the new anti-Semitism you, because you can't say as we talked about with Debbie to know what he what he was that investor to the to the UN for Israel.

You can't say why he choose can't say that as a and as a political leader who is not in and that you know a fridge group had a hate group, but you can't say we should boycott the state of Israel. The Jewish state, and then you no longer be considered not considered in polite society, part of a radical hate group fridge. Even though you're making the same statement, you're right.

And it is the new form of anti-Semitism, but look the Israeli Ministry of foreign affairs we work with over the years is very concerned about this move by Ben & Jerry's to the fact that they the concern focuses on Andy that this could lead to other corporations doing a mimic campaign the words do the same kind of thing now, what makes that. Also, I think troubling is that it also this idea that Ben & Jerry's the Corporation and the parent.

More particularly, has determined that they will only sell within the pre-67 borders is making a I said this early is legal judgments which a Islam is a matter of law and they have no authority to make, but the plan is filing this whole thing Dragon responded to your points.

First of all, yes, this action by Unilever author subsidiary Ben & Jerry's and by the way Unilever cannot say oh that's our subsidiary.

That's up to them week that we know we have no authority over them.

That's nonsense. You're responsible for the acts of your subsidiaries and I put this squarely in the lap of Unilever to deal with it subsidiary and secondly, as you say who is Unilever is in a rural court is that a super court that we don't know about that makes legal determinations as to the status and extent of sovereignty. I'm here. They now say arise Hong Kong example is Hong Kong part of China. They were not in itself then because the Chinese have asserted sovereignty over Hong Kong were of drive-through are the same thing with turkey for the same thing with Russia for the same thing with other countries like Myanmar and so forth. I was in a make political decisions based upon that and make a determination whether to sell ice cream bar soap or cleaning products there because those reasons.

Look, we gotta say it J this was an anti-Semitic move. Let's admit it just is. And here's the thing, anti-somatic groups pro-Palestinian activists have been trying to do this for a decade and the problem is in the irony of all this is they get this company big company, Harry to do it absolutely and and so I think defenders of Israel, they must be prepared to respond legally and financially they ought to take heart. I believe from what Moshe Diane has suggested earlier. Given the fact that the globe has taken a barbarous term with respect to human rights so as Moshe Diane has observed to aim and hit you only need one.

I only and one good finger prompted by this observation and impelled by the declaration that every square inch of the universe. Each shorn of neutral ground, pugnacious defenders of Israel must be prepared to do what to pull the trigger. They must engage in aggressive and an aggressive fight against these multinational corporations and their subsidiaries. They must be called to account and at the end of the day, they must pay a price I think they look I got to go into great details. This other than letting our members know that we were looking at the situation very seriously lit the legal ramifications of this process would let me say this.

During the Israeli government is tried to press Unilever to stop Ben & Jerry's from taking the decision because a this independent board. Unilever says the company had the right to take that make that decision because of its corporate responsibility and social justice policy they can escape liability yet but this is the issue because midpriced State Department as spokespersons asked about this from the Biden team take Alyssa because it would be first teammates. Okay, maybe they're making the right thing, but that there's a follow-up to take Alyssa bite six. I don't have a reaction to offer regarding the actions of private company, but more broadly, what I will say is that we firmly rejects the BDS movement, which unfairly singled out Israel. I want Biden Harris demonstration will fully and always respect the First Amendment rights of our citizens of the American people the 19th will be a strong partner and fighting efforts around the world that potentially seek to delegitimize Israel and will work tirelessly tirelessly to support Israel's further integration into the international it's not your speech.

Speech is is one thing, a politician making a speech about is one thing but this is a cut is taking actions actions that have legal consequences and it would have legal consequences and you operated countries that have laws.

There's legal consequences. So that's what it's tried say this about speech, but that's what boycott, divestment, sanctions is not a speech about delegitimizing Israel, which he says but it's about delegitimizing Israel through actions, not just words but the picklist was follow-up by eight certainly think that this decision by this one company unfairly single, unfairly synced as singles is reliably not been weighing on the object is the motivations of private company, that company. The company did speak for itself and it says that the Ben & Jerry's has the right to move their social justice policies forward in that policy now includes saying that the franchisee Ben & Jerry's cannot sell Ben & Jerry's into particular areas of Israel because the company the parent company has decided that this is occupied Palestinian Park territory. The UN hasn't decided that the courts haven't decided but they have decided this.

He doesn't want to weigh in on the motivations of a private American company but were not asking him to get to to determine what motivated manager to do this is there actions that were asking the President and hit it ministration to weigh on net prices response was a total deflection gives hollow support for for the anti-BDS movement, but there's no real teeth there, but that but the thing is, and it's they can't make the determinate Mrs. this is like saying you don't let you sell Ben & Jerry's ice cream, except in Texas because we don't think Texas is really part of the United States. While that's exactly right. James thinking of picking and choosing what you think is legitimate and you think the villager is not a place it's like parts of the place. Yeah I say you can sell it you know in in West Jerusalem on the night in East Jerusalem.

You can sell it in Tel Aviv, which you can sell it in today and Samaria for any why are you making determinations based upon what authority your violating sovereign Israeli law with that kind of discrimination. Who are you to do that.

How can you ate in the bed. They violation of the laws of the sovereign state of Israel, which says you don't discriminate against people in that fashion. Read your trip really haven't done long time when everything settles down globally were to do that again but I would protect taken thousands of people. I mean there's a lot ice cream and Israel accidents.

It's a desert.

This is not an insignificant business. This is a big so it's not that's what the company doesn't want to say that we going to visit all of Israel right that they would be on the beach of Tel Aviv and Haifa. They just don't want to be in Jerusalem in East Jerusalem and ended in West Bank for political purposes.

They think they they had that that their board members spoke out and I guess they received a lot of specifics of the head of their Board of Directors, which is how Unilever says that Sue was really responsible for. She's proud of their booth for taking a stance in the sales ice cream in occupied housing territory since that anti-Semitic. I am not anti-Semitic vile. He thought it be it. Again, please work for peace, not hatred. These are pretty constantly they don't not want to take the concert was there actions never.

She is the head of a board that made anti-Israel decision Israel's interpret that way. We believe it's anti-Semitic. But they said no I don't I don't hate you because I help displace people in other countries around the world.

If you are condemning China and Vietnam bobwhite BMR and by the way were willing to pull your business for those companies then I think you don't deserve what you're getting. I think you deserve what you get it right now because you're not. She doesn't really represent people who are who are facing genocide. She works for a company owned by an international conglomerate doing business with the government who is conducting genocide rightness on human rights advocate that someone who just cares about lighting her pocket right folks, we are not just talking about this issue.

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They do not understand that there if you cannot, it's Julie existing Jewish people.

Okay, that's what it is I would just say this I could say it okay that you hate me, and that state of his and they said no it's not anti-Semitism. Oh, it's not anti-Semitism, but then they label Andy parts of Israel is occupied territory, but it's not anti-Semitism against Jews as a people like to make a determination of what is and what is not legitimate Israeli territory to make that decision will what about the fact that the Turks do not allow outside of an Orthodox Church that have across wanted to boycott the Turks wanted to not sell Ben & Jerry's ice cream and in this sample you because you are a hypocrite and because what you're really doing is nothing else that anti-Semitic actions by singling out the state of Israel making a decision of what portions of the country are legitimate sovereign territory of Israel and which are not. With no authority whatsoever to do that and in contravention of Israeli internal law is anti-Semitic is anti-Jewish and a need to be called out for that and Unilever needs to have repercussions both Ben & Jerry's and Unilever need to suffer repercussions for the call them out for who they are sellouts.

Jerry sold out to make millions of dollars that they want to keep in independent boards.

They can make the, right right you know millions could be more but they kept this independent board, but they sold out to a multinational corporation that does everything they would like really write on paper they should like this company right they sold to a neighbor. This must be so you don't commit his cause is not anymore. It's it. Remember that when you walk into it. If you walk in Garcia Ben & Jerry's.

It's owned by the same company that three other ice cream branches that are on the racketeers's grocery store are still right right yes Breyers ice cream is is owned by this Dutch UK conglomerates are they selling Breyers in his. I do find that out who's making right so Harry, we go back to the corporate elite situation because that's what were dealing with here.

Absolutely.

So I think corporate elites.

They love to have it both ways, particularly when we are talking about profit maximization. So I think with respect to Unilever. They cannot have it both ways.

They can't have their alleged anti-Semitism support and basically trumpet their support for human rights to our human lover can either oppose anti-Semitism as it should or or they can support Barbara's human rights violations and racism in China and Israel and elsewhere, but think again.

Cannot do both so human lover. At the end of the day needs to make a choice or otherwise their duplicity and their moral superiority will show through in all of their brands including… Of so and like Breyers ice cream is sold, Israel now. I'm assuming this probably sold in the all of Israel that would include Jerusalem and so I get you Unilever as well. See Breyers had no problem if they have an independent board anymore like like a Ben & Jerry's was a much bigger brand. Honestly, the big Ben & Jerry's this idea again that they could pick and choose.

I think we sent a call out these individuals to the social so-called social justice words because they they are there. They want to have their ice cream and eat it to you, and I think it's it is not.

They are working for international multinational corporations are not human rights advocates right in the hypocrisy is so so evident and it really is hypocritical and it selected selective indignation and here's the thing they do understand one thing Jordan. They understand the bottom line and by the way, the reason they keep doing business in other countries that have these horrible human rights records is because there are for me. Jews in this country. This is anti-Semitic. But here's the thing. If the American people and people around the world will actually go up over this and take a stand and say we will not buy Ben & Jerry's and I know it sounds trite and small but if enough people will say we will not do this and we start boycotting Unilever products.

The board comes around because the real bottom line. It is, is the financial bottom line for them and I think it's time for people say enough and if you want to do business okay but you're trying to tell us what to believe and how to operate and how Israel does or internal affairs. We take a stand. Just because again these this company Unilever Harry you do a lot of economics and can that most of their decisions are economic base to be that they don't really care what country they operate in the human rights record and that's kind of how they operate, they they operate.

Some of that the human rights hotspots of the world. Places where we try to do work to try to prevent people for having religious liberty or the ability to organize a freedom of speech.

They are there to sell things like ice cream cleaning solution absolutely and so I think we need to engage in policy responses that affect adversely. Unilever's bottom line. At the end of the day. Why is Unilever allowing Ben & Jerry's to engage in a social justice quote unquote boycott of Israel because it is part of Unilever leaders corporate branding. So in other words, they can increase their sales in certain markets by claiming moral purity in Israel.

Notwithstanding the fact that they are indeed violating the law, notwithstanding the fact that they are indeed engaging in anti-cemeteries him on stilts. Folks, this is not the end of this case, the adjacent beginning to limit spend the whole show they really prep you get you up to speed on who's Ben & Jerry's now is not just this company in Vermont but they do this, Board of Directors and independent Board of Directors. But the really owned by multinational multinationals. We just told you they got ice cream brands like Breyers being sold Israel right now. Assuming that being sold in Jerusalem that they not making the distinction to wise the multinational allowing a tiny company they own to get them in this kind of issue where then you could have all of their brands potentially thrown out because it beeped I get out of a violation of the law of the state of Israel, the law states in the United States as well so got a lot more to talk about this.

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