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HAPPENING NOW: Georgia Votes in Most Important Senate Election in History

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January 5, 2021 12:00 pm

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Jay Sekulow live happening now Georgians are voting in the most important to US Senate elections in history from Washington DC Jay Sekulow all eyes on Georgia today as voters head to the polls as we speak in crucial Senate run off elections that will decide the balance of power in Washington and these races could not be tighter. Phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110 what is election day in Georgia.

Most of the votes have already been cast of your absentee or early voting, and if history is any guide, predominantly those votes would be democratic so it really is up to Republicans to get as many people out to the polls today.

The counterbalance what the Democrats probably did in the early about yourself. By all indications is going to be very tight right now, your host Jordan secular absolutely be very tight racemic.

This is a races being determined right now as speak by who was showing up at the early voting little bit lower than it was, of course, for the general election that it be normal in any election. It's not for Presidential race. But this was got so much attention. You have to wonder if the if the Democrats needed to hit that kind of a number two to win these elections, which neither of them did. They were both behind and's and the jungle runoff by the Republican voter would beat Warnock in the and Purdue beat Awsat but there was, independently, to get the 50+1% which Georgia has a rule like that in this runoff by the whites.

The winner is the winner of each of these races and I don't think I'll be much split ticket kind of voting here because just to Republican US senators. The question is today will you make the difference.

Will Georgia voters make the difference because I think it should be an encouragement to conservative voters, not discouraging that there were a lot of absentee ballots, but all order say but all that you know.

But there's less so I don't need to show up. This is not your chance if you're conservative voter to make a difference on election day. It will be whether or not Georgia Republicans and Georgians who also are more independent. We think this should be a check on the party in power that what it is, especially at show up today and that is good to. That's it. I did there were not enough early votes, he came in that make it in that hard for Republicans to win, but you cannot win if people don't show up, you can't win if they think my vote will count because some some machines are my vote. This can be this and all still the election of agonist yields no you can only when if you actually show up and vote. There is so much attention on this ratio of these two races that they know that I'll get a go on this note. No note for note match eyeballs on this to try to have James on everybody's on everybody is on it. They bear doubling down another monitoring things. I will say this, that both sides, both Republicans and Democrats are fully aware what's at stake. So this is not a situation where you're going be guessing on how important this is. This two Senate races in the state of Georgia makes Georgia a national race why because the control of the United States Senate is literally at stake of the present. I thought articulated that very well. Yesterday while still angry over what happened to him in the state of Georgia with an election that was in many people believe this that was was either stolen or manipulated or whatever phrase you want to use in Georgia.

The fact is the President still and he recognized that it is important for the control of the Senate that is paramount here.

Yes he did he make that very clear in Dalton, Georgia last night when he spoke that what we are talking about is control of the Senate so as to prevent the unfettered exercise of power by the Democrats who if they lost the if the Republicans lost the Senate the Democrats would have control of the house. The Senate and the White House, which means at least for the next two years. It would be unfettered and unrestrained control of what the policies in Washington come out to Beta. That's why think everybody's fighting will talk about this were to talk also about what happens tomorrow.

Big day in the United States and a lot of swirling around talk about last night.

We'll get into that as well. Take your calls. Rifles 164 3110 center Bill Haggerty US center. Now he's taking the oath he'll be joining us right from his recent Tennessee to Georgia this minute. This basically were from the Presidential race is race in Georgia election.

Never stop because this is the balance of power right here. He'll be joining us live in the next segment of the broadcast. Give us an update on what he saw on the ground in Georgia. What he's hearing as well is a senator and what's happening tomorrow challenges facing Americans for substantial time in our value our freedom and our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member.

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Congratulations on that taking that oath and it's an important time.

Of course what's happening in Georgia with the two Senate races there and how little be like for you in the U.S. Senate will be in control.

Also what's happening tomorrow. No dead you want to go right to that center. Congratulations J and great great campaigning and great result. Let me ask you this senator tomorrow there's a mere number of your colleagues. A casting vote to not accept various state slated electors what your sense of this. What you been doing, how do you think it plays out over Gordon. Great to be back with you again and how honored I could be representing the great state. Do not generate new knowledge. Very special honor. And when I was sworn in on Sunday. The gravity of that.

I love to call you like that bench warming and I was there my wife or children on each horn in back in 2017 US about Japan so that special meeting to that with him again in this new Aldrich is that couldn't be more critical than right now in terms of what work they think that the situation in Georgia absolutely critical today. I hope everyone at your listeners that live in Georgia that reside legally. There will be getting out the vote. Because the control balance.

I'm sure we'll talk about that and into your class today on the expense. Tomorrow I will be presented with this light of electoral college results and I have some very deep concerns about that.

It's very difficult good conscience to rubberstamp results that have been painted educating out activists in certain states change the rules in the middle of the game without the constitutional authority to do so they can use the pandemic as their excuse to gladden file lawsuits to condole election official to do whatever they need to do to correct the authority and power await the state legislature and again U.S. Constitution article 2, section 1 divide clearly that only elected accountable state legislators are in charge election, not activist judges not election officials, not secretaries of state not settling lawsuits.

So what Is the process broke it through this. Due to this cycle the these folks had used up pandemic use the crisis as an excuse to do that and to stand idly by and let it happen. It is not something like any good concert and that's why supporting the formation of the commission to get to the bottom and present the back of the legislature to push Alec state legislatures to do with the constitutional job is to correct the situation under their authority.

Article 2, section 1 center follow up on that. If I can because there is this also and I think some misunderstanding out there among people. Many people that think that what you all are going to do is reject the slight and selective slight that's not what this proposal is doing, not at all not at all weird for me be clear what were not trying to do were not trying to quit Congress in charge election can't commit that authority to the state constitution provides Congress avoid doing electoral college votes and that's why supporting a commission to adopt conduct an emergency audit the big and what happened in the state for the election law unconstitutionally regret that I don't want these problems. I will be promptly fixed legislature collected now and in the future as well. Gently we do not want to see this happening 2020 and we can't let it continue without without saying something about it without medicine or having the strength. I believe that if that that that commission and to correct these problems is so significant, especially every conservative listening because or else I think you'll see the place a lot more states like Georgia, where you get funny business from courts and is not the state legislature and its activists the following challenges to courts changing as you said elections law and rules of the game in the middle of the game and this will be their new focus.

They know if they could get to where it's a mail-in ballot with no signature verification and no address verification. No voter ID that it would be very difficult in many states for Republicans to ever win again. That light will call Nancy Pelosi unveiled the playbook overhaul the entire American electoral procedure is used under the guise of pandemic really thought it if you look at what she proposed. There again, thank God.

Defendant stopped what she was talking about was no excuse mail-in voting of mandated universal unsolicited mail ballot distribution across the country and they voter registration, no state signature verification for mail-in ballots get that acquired dropbox is basically about an email allowing people be paid to go out and collect outside it is just amazing what they laid out in this bundle legislation.

Again, that's their goal to federalize if this is certainly not but we want to put it back to state that on this responsibility, the legislatures on this responsibility again this playbook is laid out stop it from happening at the federal level about leasing activists going into certain states trying to achieve what these goals are what Nancy close articulate center stationary and distressing with your audience. We do a big audience in Georgia. In the course of earnings going on right now is that this is a national election down there.

This is not just with the two people they can represent the state of Georgia, which of course a part of an important part of their job, but it's also and significantly so I think it's also who is going to control the United States Senate and you know you just been sworn in, but you been in government service. You know what's at stake. This is very serious and the implications of this leadership of who is leading the Senate is you terribly important and we don't maintain that will give the Democrats the opportunity to fundamentally change America.

That's what Chuck Schumer has proposed that that he wants to divorce Georgia then change America, but it won't only happen in America.

This is been a change in our posture around the world. I was most honored to serve as the best you know that's the third largest economy in the world after United States and China and their world is hungry and desperate for American leadership.

We can't go back, leading from behind. We can go back to quote strategic patient that allowed North Korea wrap up and we got to be in a position to push back on China because they continued about their aggression militarily and economically nomadic like it is absolutely critical that we have strong voices in the Senate with a majority to make certain that America continues to stand strong that we don't Democrats are going to come in and undo the 2017 tax act that was what the American economy on on a path to become the greatest, fastest growing economy in the world to take that now raise taxes.

Every business person of the last thing you do in your condo, color, sex and race taxes. This is what you wanted to write that anywhere. That's not where America needs to be like to go back to the big event tomorrow night. You can be a long day. Do you understand how the days can a look once his objection start to our debate was a two hours on each each objection I was in the play out. It just requires both a member of the house number proposed the objection and the soon as that happens, the infection itself is in clear and brief once and disposed of houses right. The House of Representatives will remain in that body because then it can be over there and all will walk back Senate chambers then contain a two-hour debate and at the end that debate will be about and the result that but I hope to be that we will warm the commission to get to the bottom of what happened here.

It should not be up to a partisan issue. I would think that the Democrats and Republicans would want to get to the bottom of unconstitutional activity want to get to the bottom of what happened here so we don't have the result is the one thing I think were trying to tell the audience know that this is really an uphill battle because you gotta get all of the Republicans to do this in the Senate to carry this forward and then attempt to have it happen and that seems to be a tall task when Sen. Lee center assassin said no side dates. That's it.

It's it's I think it's important that you what you're doing but I just want people understand it's a tall order. Important that we step up the ladder conscience and I've been worried and concerned about this since the November election took place.

I've never seen a situation like this all unfold here again using the pandemic is excuse to go in one of the Constitution to change election laws mitigate and to basically love the system with all these ballot became an overpowering system, making it extraordinarily difficult to execute it again exceeding that the authority work should live next state legislators that judges the that the executive branch officials of the best I have violated the Constitution or not you need to get the bottom of what happened in this back to state legislature to fix this. We are an art… Are you grateful to you already and starting off by taking on this challenge in the U.S. Senate and for going right from your campaign down to Georgia and working on those in getting out the vote.

I even as we speak at today with our audience.

We appreciate you being on his first time as a US Sen. appreciate that Harry consider hiring me know. We'll talk again soon very much my folks.

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It's what Chuck Schumer says your change America not still be tight majorities but is still a very different to be in the majority versus the minority.

That's what is up to the Georgia voters doing today. But I also want to talk about what Sen. Haggerty explained that he's in be doing a lot of other centers of joints. It started off with just one or 290 it's up to 13 U.S. Senate shorted a sponsor. That doesn't mean that they won't vote for, but there's actually 13 now sponsors of these objection stand, walk people through with what would they put through their objection. What are they objecting to what's the goal of that objection.

I like the commission to do your sojourner to move through the Italia states in alphabetical order should start with Alabama and Alaska in the very the third one on the list is good the Arizona. We anticipate Jordan that will be the first time that Sen. Haggerty and others will step forward to object what will happen is they will submit in writing and objection. Theoretically, here it would be to Arizona's slate of electors that have been opened by the vice President they would submit that in writing during each objection, like the senator said only has to have one signature from each chamber on it so we don't know if all 13 that said, there can abject organ abject to each one or Phil divide the amount we also don't know if there can be additional senators that will join that list but Jordan. Either way, once that objection is turned in as Sen. Haggerty said they will suspend the joint session. The house members will stay in that chamber.

The senator's Jordan – Juergen have to walk back across the Capitol complex, probably through the tunnels using the subway system back to the Senate chamber and both chambers will convene up to two hours of debate, and here's what the entry and I just want to clarify here is that each objection is so that it wanted all day.

It about five states right things that were thinking so so that that that there's a little bit of a debate here, but it looks like it's good to be six. I think there's going to be at least one from each chamber that are also going to object on Nevada now look Jordan, I need the way this is gone. Who knows, maybe there could be other states that come into play driver, New Mexico said, I think the most likely number is six. One thing I did want to get in before we get deeper into the process that every member in both chambers J can only speak for five minutes suing the United States Senate. If all 12 or 13 senators that objects take up there five minutes. That's about an hour. If the people who oppose their objections. Decide not to speak, it could move a little bit quicker but what this is Washington DC that's not the scenario, I'd bet on hide that on a very long day.

Now Sen. Haggerty. Sam was talking about this commission be set up like very quickly and so you got this idea of one is not accepting so Estates electoral slate within this other would be a separate vote on the commission if if they got those votes for commission to look at whether or not to accept that in the states to then go back and have to recertify make that decision that a separate vote than just the Senate. Not accepting the electoral votes in that state.

It would be the first order of business, Jordan would be to whether or not to accept the slate of electors that was in front of them for both chambers would first have to reject that slate of electors and that slate of electors would essentially be set aside now there is some difference of opinion between the members working in the objecting whether or not they would object whether or not the commission is set forward, but that the biggest group of senators that Bill Haggerty is in that Ted Cruz is leading. They say that this commission is what they want to happen and that's why there objecting so there can abject a negative vote against it and then their input. For this idea of a commission modeled very much like the one that happened in 1876 and give the states 10 more days to look at it. That's really where the bulk of the momentum is Jordan, but it would take two separate votes you have to carry, you would have to carry the house and Senate are just the Senate. You have to carry both okay so go back to reality again. I want to explain, if in in best case and Arielle it still goes back to states and most of the states would probably recertify their votes be but you not again you can't.

Who knows what else. But you get to that point is, it is impossible because the Democrats control the house even even the lenses of consequences. Let me be an example where does it right here so this is the problem that I see and is and I do think that these are valid and the constitutionally ways that hackers do we have to realize is that for it to actually impact the election of the works to be outcome determinative. So many things have to line up that seem improbable. You have to have first the house the majority the house majority. The Senate say were going to do this within trajectories which I just don't see that happening in the house. Second, second, that it would go back to the states and at least three of the significant states would have to say we are not looking to change the slate of electors. I think we have to be realistic on the vote in the House and the Senate obviously is not going to pass the house. The house is controlled by the Democrats and are not gonna vote for this commission and then again if you allude were to have the commission in some form or fashion. An annuity as you just said go back to the states. I don't think it's very likely that the states are going to change the slides of electors that already have been sent to Washington and that will be opened and counted by the President of the Senate.

I just don't see that happening as you say so many things have to line up and it so improbable that with the state of the politics being what it is in the hat in the house is that that that is going to happen there and I don't think that the states are going to change enough of their electoral votes that they have certified to make a difference tweeted out earlier today that the vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors them that the and there's a lot of debate on that.

Constitutionally, the question really is, is it and I go back to fan on this is a question of rejecting words a question of questioning. Thus, could he say I went to go back to this. This states the six states and say our I want to recertification. Basically, well, that's why I think the idea put forward by Sen. Cruz has the most traction because that's what he saying that's what Sen. Cruz and his other senators like Sen. Haggerty are going to check that can my friends do that without the vote of the House and Senate. My reading of the Constitution and the electoral count act is that he cannot mean that the reading says that he opens the certificate and then today counting tellers and then the senators as Jack now look at there's disagreement J cannot do either of those lawyers. I know that there's IDs of all schools and arguing with right now so it's not like I just where they getting in the language, the language is not that vague.

It's pretty kind like the Chief Justice role in the impeachment it's it's only about whether not to accept the questions you know and like it's a question right in the courtroom right negative thing and then at the end he counts the votes, but I think the some these law professors are making the argument. I think Lance tried may have mated in 2003 that that there's the vice President has more control than that one thing you can't do if you can't take it down from the right is that the authority needed in the Senate is also not doing that either gathers and states we will get into more about business. I have always we just want to give you the best information possible and let me just tell everybody and George.

I don't care what side you're on vote vote make an impact. Don't believe any of the polls don't think less votes came in early voting that helps Republicans and hurts Democrats just go and vote. Make sure voices her balance of power via you ACLJ been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member.

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If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular Jay Sekulow ever take your phone calls at one 800 684 31 since we try to walk through tomorrow and get into that more detail to because there's a lot going with the VP can do no wheat we had Sen. Haggerty on he's one of those 13 senators who said they will objects or to join house members brand-new Sen. of Tennessee was a former ambassador to Japan but was on the broadcast a lot before and when it was candidate now is US Sen. Alitalia from his time being winning his election in November, a space equipped up until his swearing-in yesterday is spent a lot time obscene for the people to see.

But George's well radio raising funds for her to his colleagues who were you assisting him a huge things flipped around because that was not people not expect that in Georgia and that this will be interesting today. It will did what happened in Georgia. Was it an anomaly in the sense that you had so much early voting and so much money put in by groups like Stacy Abrams that you could tip it by 11,000 votes with with the interest in the Presidential election. But then a month later.

If you can get the money may still flowing but it's not the amount of time and we know there are less early votes so that that would typically again favor the same day voting party same-day voting party is the Republican Party, but he takes on the folks because of what happened in the general election, where David perdue and the Republicans in the jungle primary, including Laughlin columns they would combine would be the Democrats, but Donald Trump lost by 11,000 votes. So that is encouragement towed to Republican voters in Georgia they've Artie won these elections and since they just have to show back up again. That's what you find out today Dr. going to show up. Let's go though the scope or the Washington scenario right now will go back to the Georgia thing because there's a lot of speculation that the others like you like night tonight being 3 AM to think we know you know that CNN and all them are hedging say when Camilla took 10 days. Last time I don't think the Georgia officials get away with that the stock I do not think so. I don't then I think latent night early this morning when he thinking. I gently know I think were not can I have that kind of shenanigans. It happened last time we wait and wait and wait until Fulton County and the County decide to come in. There's too many people looking at this they're going to have to vote and make some decision as to who the winner is pretty quickly.

Okay, here's what the district or state of Georgia because the eyeballs are on this. And they're not to be able to tell a poll watchers to leave while the county is going on. That's good to be said for us to make lawsuits to this what he said, take a listen to this race will be able to be called tonight might most like you probably tomorrow morning, absent a balance that's on the complex mechanics to do early scanning of the balance of the contest, finish up the tabulation tonight attempts to commit today and we expect a strong turnout. I think what you think and I think that it's right, maybe 3 o'clock in the morning but got a better finish JII tell you not say what they all tell you what they better not do stop the council workers can go home and then resume it the next morning they better stay there until it's done. Even if it's early morning on on you know tomorrow you are hundred percent that would be Jordan eight total disaster if they started that stuff.

Absolutely. Of course I gotta tell you, the Secretary of State does not control the counties in terms of doing that Fulton County decided that was a pipe bluebirds last time that was not true was a toilet that was leaking and they stopped the vote told accounting and told everyone to come back so that is not something the Secretary of State has the power to do he. The counties are the ones who supervise the counting of the vote and so if the County decides to do something like that which under the circumstances, gentlemen, I doubt that's going to happen this time, but it could have anything.

I think it was I think I'm on Newsmax at 7 AM Eastern time tomorrow I would be troubling for our country if we don't know. By the thing that you can take that route. I can't with a delight. They support that were to stop counting votes now 2 AM everybody home with Mr. numbers are thereby the wave early voting. So that's down 400,000 Georgia elected representative. A secondary state or government.

I make shirtless and I want a o'clock in the morning nobody stopped because Mr. starts when things stop the challenges facing Americans as time and are now freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedom. Defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

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31. Consider this to things to focus on here. One is what will happen in the U.S. Senate tomorrow and in Congress tomorrow in the U.S. House as well.

When in the joint session. There is objections and of course there's people timeout the vice President's role. I think clearly FM broadcast the way we read and I think if you think about long-term you want a vice President to build a site next present is on their own and just think for a moment.

You want that person a beauty set a precedent.

Let's say you set some precedent like that, even though it's never been happen before you, along with what is law professors law review articles then you're setting a precedent for what is the next Democrat vice President. They get to pick their work or never to be a Democratic no one can beat the Republican because it's always gonna be a Republican vice President is pin stays in the notice. Keep yoga from one to the other to the other, just that the framework isn't therefore where it would be okay to do that and where and when it's not okay to do that.

There is the offender is the framework for Congress to now elections have consequences yet of the votes Congress acting in the and the vice President is a the President of the Senate would have vote if there was a tie-breaking vote Congress does have a role to do that, but it does not appear that the votes are there obviously day even in the Senate because of some Republicans, but in the house. Certainly not because this is not a situation where stating it to 270 so not voting by state delegation were Republicans driven majority the run just by the majority. And that's that House Democrats mean so I agree with having these debates.

I agree with taking the stand.

I agree with what Sen. Haggard is doing sooner cruise.

I agree with this but I also want people to be realistic. Yet Jordan is the very reason that there's something happening tomorrow in Washington DC because article 2, section 1 of the Constitution and three USC 15 of the United States code. Electoral count act says that Congress has a role in here says that the vice President opens the certificates hands them to the tellers and their counted and if a member of the House and the Senate have an objection to the integrity of one of those slates, one or more they have a constitutional role and inability to object to them now look that they have the authority there Jordan to just reject them out riding to set them aside.

That's not what Sen. Cruz and Sen. Haggerty and others have suggested they have suggested. Look, there's enough credible allegations out there that we want to take every opportunity we can to rectify this before before there's an inauguration so they want the commission much like the one in 1876 to look at it for 10 days and then do what Jordan not make a determination on who gets those electoral votes send that information that they find back to the states for them to take another look at it there. I don't think there's any ambiguity here journey people go to article 2, section 1, and they pull up three USC 15 of the United States code Congress clearly Jordan has this relates the entire reason that tomorrow. This joint session is going to go through this alphabetical rollcall. And again, starting with the third state called Arizona.

That's when I expect to get the first objective is clearly laid out people noted Constitution and in the US statute and read it for themselves, and said this is, again, I think where there's been so much confusion to exit. People are going around and and we talked about this idea that if you take a law professors law review article and you apply it to reality, this view you're setting a new preview be setting a new precedent and does that mean that there would admit I guess you could them all Harris could say that closets parents then Democrats never building in office, not the presidency you can do this to every because it went. The idea is that the President if it the ideas, the vice President make the selection of electors.

That's just not true. It was to get this will guide rails for that because then become all Harris would be the they came into office in excess of 2024 so let's say present from another Republican of his wins the election and she just says I'm I can accept electors from these five states that is no way that's what the Constitution means.

So we should not put a false expectation on on my pants. Now the question is can Mike pence a vice President so you know what is objections being made and let's say it doesn't carry then enough votes for the objections. Can Mike Penn still say I've got a slate of electors here from Pennsylvania. I got the President of the Senate of Pennsylvania telling me this is ridiculous.

This wasn't done correctly, can I go but could the vice President then go back and say I just want the six states to recertify who they want. As I got these other slates are to now those are through the state.

Those were separate but they voted. Could he do that, that's a different question with this question of I'm not sure he could do that either, but that's a different quite agitated right one is still going back on his face one is throwing out the elect, in any up in the Cruz matter goes back to the states right and I die just that's what I know people say what you all are acting like you're giving up is not a question once fought as hard as we can default on every front is as legally viable methods that are based on the Constitution of the United States and like we do here folks, and I know some people are posting like you know because I anarchy statements. That's not good for the country. That's not good for a constitutional republic. That's not the way it works the way it works is elections icons when saving even elections that had irregularities and fraud have consequences. If you can't prove the fraud, but you know, if you look at it from the courtroom standpoint there is not one justice on the Supreme Court of the United States. Not one including a lead on Thomas that were ready to give Texas for instance the relief they requested those to thought the case should have been heard which I agree but they were not saying they were not if they were clear to say that's not saying we think the relief requested would be appropriate.

What was that relief throw out the vote. So I think part of this is Andy, and then can we have to keep eight.

We got an that's why the Georgia race is even more important. The race becomes extremely important because it determines the balance of power in Washington and you've raised a plethora of questions J that I think a very important in the constitutional scholars are going to be debating and talking about. I agree with you that I don't think it is the job of the task of the constitutional right of the vice President to make a decision as to who the President is going to be and I think that the idea of a commission is a very reasonable idea that Sen. Cruz and his advocates have put up the idea of sending it ultimately back to the states to read look at the irregularities of the commission may find an recertify is going to is a very reasonable and include a curb, but the votes I don't think of there for that to happen.

Quite frankly, I don't see that occurring. Yeah, I'm invited rule of law matters in the United States and you know that we talked about 1876 a lot at that at that point the Senate had a competing slate of electors in front of them and actually led Jay to the electoral count act which which spells out in great detail the processes you have never that's that's federal all right now and one of the things that it says in there says that the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the state. There's not a lot of ambiguity there J so the only way that a slate of electors could be substituted for another state, is if that states executive.

You know, in most cases, that would be the governor sends an additional slate unless the must leave the Senate has in front of them a a slate of electors that is signed by the executive the state it's not in compliance with the electoral count active just isn't. I think that Phyllis can take of those: hey Bill, working as a secure library on their call election enjoyed it. Considering these people are trying to dissuade others from voting concern, I would just go ahead and vote just despite what the people are saying about how I feel about it. They have no right to tell me what what about lend about how to vote and the second of all those people who don't vote and complain about their outcome. I just say they have no right to complain because they did let their voice be known. You know Georgia politics well you work. What do you expect that all of my friends are down the poster saying it's just too close to call the meeting too close to call me Susan is shocked and in same-day voting symptoms. Voting right now as we speak to you and typically if you go into this and you look at the mail and Bowser come in in the early voting being down from that the Presidential numbers month ago.

That means it's whoever shows up today, usually in Georgia that would favor Republicans but guy here too many Republicans in Georgia at least of those last few weeks him and hard about my vote doesn't really matter. It second account bill is right at you know if you sit on your hands and you don't go vote will all blame you. I actually think you can blame conservatives in Georgia if they know when these two races and ended beasties. People who put out these theories of your vote won't actually get counted and you can make a difference in this is rigged and all that I know conservatives around the country would be blaming Georgia voters there enough Republicans and independents who would vote for these two Republicans to carry the day in this race need both these races. Without a doubt, the question is are they can actually show up today. That's the only question that this was written to statewide race that show up tonight folks again a huge thank you tour a seal J donors in December we had the largest month we've ever had in a seal J's history by a lot. By the way, not just by a little by a lot and your support and ongoing school to be a shield is still that of course in a seal, J.come back and take your calls in the last segment during Georgia and having voting go out and vote to come down to that island with the voting is been like to have you turn on or not. I've never met you now have ethernet pretty heavy turnout for this question is is it everywhere statewide. Only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover many ways your membership is powering the right question for you mission in life today online/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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People vote differently for present-day different state races and things like that so I think it's either the Democrats win both Republicans when both and I think it's anyone's to win right now YouTube super check. Carolyn Holt said this what I love about the ACLJ as you look at the evidence and give us facts even if it isn't what I want to hear. I can trust you to tell me I wouldn't trade that so I appreciate that Carolyn will more than you know. Because I know what were saying to some of these very disappointing where it's happening tomorrow so I eat what you want to tell you I can tell you this. Yes, the vice President United States and say you know what I'm picking Donald Trump and Kemal Harrison when she said the presiding officer. She could say I would pick Joe Biden or when, but when I was a vice President he could've said, you know, not the sound from coming to Hillary Clinton can't be right. That's not the way it works.

But what they're proposing is constitutionally valid when it comes to this commission when the debt goes or not.

I don't know what's going today and I think your bigger questions could even if even if the votes are there for that is the President of the Senate as a vice President request have the ability to ask those states to recertify yet, so does the presiding officer of the diving.

This is the real question. Let's assume the objections don't carry because the chance of not just based on the voting. Can Mike pence as the vice President but bouncing is the present President of the set up at the presiding officer of the certification process. Can he send it back to the states. The six contestants states and say it. I got all this contestant stuff. We just recertify this worth that lawyers argue both ways on that. That's a good question.

Very good question and then then I would be able to say one where the other without looking at a lot of more research and what I know right now, but I would think that the answer would probably be no I don't think you can do that I think is a ministerial actor who simply opens and counts balance fan. According to the electoral count act if there's a dispute between the two houses between the house and the Senate.

The default is that this certified slate counts. So, according to the statute. J he cannot it have to be a constitutional analysis that would supersede that you are not that I don't think there's a clear answer was going to less chemicals yes go to Phil in California online for a Filipina Jay Sekulow life hello I want to tell you that I am 84-year-old gentleman who has participated in different Presidential elections, and in every one of them. There has been some comment made about flocculent loading sometimes it's dropped after a couple of days but I've never seen it to the level yet there is this year, my two things is that possible. I understand that the Constitution allows states to choose how they're going to count votes. Maybe it's time for us to write an amendment to the Constitution it says for federal officials, namely President and vice President. Here are the rules that you will use to count votes correct in this analysis would take a constitutional amendment to do that because the election process. Next, the process of how you decide this rests with the states. For instance, your state could pass a law in the legislature, signed by the governor that says that Senate majority of your statehouse will determine who the electors are for present will be voting for electors. You have a guaranteed right to vote. That's the way that is been done now but there was a long time, the country's history were that wasn't the case that we take as you just said to let me take a constitutional amendment now.

I do think that the Senate in this elite who controls the Senate will make this determination. When the set is back in session, assuming it's Republican led you think they are they saying a man I spoke to Lindsay Graham that there could have commissions on this they're going to get on top of this, I think it depends on Georgia tonight. Jake yeah I honestly I mean I think if a at least one Republican wins in Georgia. I think this will be at the top of the list for Mitch McConnell and by the way that follows the President of the commission. It was passed in 1876 reforms happened to election integrity. I tell you this though J if John Awsat and Raffaella Warnock went I'll tell you what will not be on the Senate agenda. This won't be you know exactly right in your time at a seachange about that, mostly classical right was could go to nisi in Ohio on line 5 nisi welcome to Jay Sekulow life hello yes what do you think it over to the topic I wanted to say that their actions are always well planned and well orchestrated.

They stick to gather around and I think conservatives should be thinking about planting down and thinking about plans against them, and keep that in my surprise when they don't go against tradition and think that they do because they only care about winning some degree Republicans got you. So if we outspend and we do grassroots because we do that before we can win and that's that helped a lot because they didn't do grassroots Democrats were the only ones knocking on doors. Republicans know that there comes country club party, but they exchange lots become a Populist party as plies part at the first time ever that Karl Rove came up with the idea should we be knocking on doors to should we be making volunteer phone calls, so it kind of evened out the game, you start seeing states like Georgia, for the first time back in 2002.

Elect a Republican governor wasn't forced on them by reconstruction so that those things happen.

So Republicans cut up to that game. What they didn't catch up to get his right to the line of what you can do legally in many states you can ballot harvest sounds like a bad word in some states it's illegal, I would not tell you I do anything illegal in your state that you need to figure out how to go right up to the line and not execute too good like that cut like nisi said this idea about. It's not traditional or that's just, that doesn't sound nice. If it's legal and you can do it and it helps you get gets about to get any votes we should be a conservatively went to the other side doing it. Yet there they're going right up to the light of everything possible they can do so.

And here I think look. Not everybody states you have to really commit to what you have a strategy like that when I was in charge of.

We were not in charge of the election. Litigation commences the truth and we were involved in one case at the Supreme Court. That was it. That case, we still have a stay amazingly, mentally mad about late arriving ballot issue, but that it will be mooted out. Once this is all over with. But we did get the states that were requested but look at me every Lords of different strategies are election worst about a lot of lawsuits as losses that mature into victory. Now there's this move in the house of Jason laid out for you what it's can look like tomorrow you're not shocked really off air when it starts to go through this again tomorrow to tell you what's coming and I'm sure will learn more to again thank you for your support of the ACLJ in the month of December end of the whole year was incredible for us. Thank you in the middle of a pandemic is really unprecedented.

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