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October 23, 2020 1:00 pm

FINAL DEBATE ANALYSIS — Ric Grenell in Studio

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October 23, 2020 1:00 pm

We talk about last night's debate and we're also joined by the ACLJ's Special Advisor for National Security and Foreign Policy, Ric Grenell, in studio.

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Jay Sekulow final debate analysis with our special guest acting director of national intelligence, live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call one 806 843-110-1800 68412 and the chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow night of the evening. During the debate itself was turning on CNN and watching the meltdown and I say that because when Joe Biden said that he will and oil and gas him to play bite very early memory the right to argue our broad team here, but let me play. Despite this play be willing gas but right now, would you close out the transition from their owners are. Yes, all that is a big statement because I would stop. Why would you do that because the oil industry pollutes significantly so.

No oil and gas so let me just talk karate for just one second in Pennsylvania and Texas and Ohio might not be a good idea for that policy to be implemented for your industry, which is most of your industry in those zones and also be horrible for the country since were not for the first time in the energy independent, but that was I think the big big time. A lot of the moments will get to it. Rick Tirrell, our special advisor on foreign policy and national security issues is with us in studio Jordan courses here Rick him you were there.

The vibe in the room what what we say offers you hesitant to get me to move to Nashville if I marry him, it's amazing how I love being in his way, with none of the aggravation of an aggravation. You know, first of all it the room was incredibly cold know why they did that, but it was freezing and saw the British ambassador to the United States, and she had out like a blanket on literally brought a blanket. The room was not only cold physically, but I think Chile just the tenor from the group that puts these debates together. It just isn't a great format. I don't think it's too staged in many ways they're not debating enough but I thought Pres. Trump felt comfortable and and and he did a really good job of prosecuting what the Trump economy would look like compared to what the Biden economy look like which immediately gets into the oil and gas issue because I do think you're right.

This was a barnstorming moment him was at that he plan on saying that he thinks or did he plan on saying Michael I feel it was a response. This is what I think Donald Trump is most effective.

It was a response to his question. He said, would you close down the oil industry that was from Criswell crashing down Trump to Biden buying said I would transition from the oil industry. Yes you here, correct? Or, later on, I kind of like exasperated as a is someone who is upright your Democrat did a pretty good job as moderator. She said why would you do that. I think the way she said why would you do that was not like it was trying to save him. It was like wait a minute as athletic leg. I think it's worth playing again because it you're absolutely right does pick up an interesting side of would you close down the ladder transition from their owners. For yes transition that is a big statement because I would stop. Why would you do that, because the oil industry pollutes significantly that was like that, like the teacher lines of why would you do that well here's what because the left part of his party is forcing it to go.

And that's what it is but don't forget that. He also said that the last person that would leave the room after big decisions was, he said, Joe Biden said the last person is gonna leave the Oval Office is minimal, Harrison and she's absolutely against this so she's winning the day Jordan, here we are 50 million people voted. So what is it me, as I think it that you don't overcome. I think those 50 million people Artie knew how they were to vote. Some of these debates are for really suffer the people Artie knew were there to vote. Now they have the ability to do that through early voting ballot, noting whatever, but there still that group that waits till election. They are very close to election day and this was important to them I think is important to the people see that different side of prison. Trump didn't come out for either candidate in the first debate this is this is the way you want to end with the debates, I would be taking a break we come back and take your calls at 1-800-684-3110 if we get a lot of content to go through. Also support the work of the ACLJ ACLJ.org Rick Scott post on these issues is, of course, as well.

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A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn, called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later there would Obama care me in many ways your membership is empowering the right question for copy mission life today online/radio with Rick Grenell and now Jordan and me of course. And we are discussing the debate last night, which I think if you're being objective at all. WGN said.did a poll into the bowl anything it's that 76% said that the President won the debate. Joe Biden had a rough night. Let's just be honest I mean he be the first debate he did better. He did not do well last night. The format that best thing that happened was the two minute meeting of the microphone. I think that really made this a more engaged debate. He also knew there was a lot of course of discussion on the coronavirus before we get into the specifics. I want to get a cut of the state of the race situation from Rick and Jordan Rick you been out on the campaign trail you been all over the country in the world.

11 days out what your sense of the race right now so I'm on my way to Wisconsin and spent two and half days in Wisconsin. I just was in Minnesota for day. I spent two days in Michigan and 1/2 a day in Ohio and I'm usually in Pennsylvania so I'm literally in the swing states I have to tell you that the crowd are literally amazing crowds that Republicans would be proud of working class people lacks Hispanics mothers when you look at this crowd, there's no way that we can lose because the fact of the matter is it's a really broad working-class coalition.

Many of those people are Democrats. I talk to people constantly who say I invoke Foreman 16, but I'm absolutely the informant 20 or I reluctantly voted for him this time I'm walking over glass to vote for him. These are union guys.

These are union women. These are mothers, and I've never been more proud of the Republican Party to be broad-based working-class it's not the rich white party anymore. So 11 days out. Jordan pulled we went from yesterday. It's brick pretty much exactly what was with Hillary Clinton.

I think that's exactly where and if you don't trump Donald Trump near the state polls the matter are showing you at the same margins. Whether it's buying up but .6 or two points or Europe to point you, you can. You have the ability to run the table again with the electoral college, and I think it is much they like to talk. Now there's a binding stuff in this way this way this way. That way, the truth is that there are there's only a couple paths for Joe Biden and will know very early on, I think election night, so long as we get some counts in some states called. If places like Florida and the North Carolina and you move up to Pennsylvania and if those delays in that way there counting voting don't impact the call of the race. I think we could be that same situation, which is weird to say now looking up at the past few weeks because I don't feel was said this three or four weeks ago you could be that same situation where everybody's looking through their camera.

Everybody see on TV is doing that in Pennsylvania gets called for Donald Trump and you realize that's it is good to be some kind of wave across the country and there's not a real passerby and was to what I can ask you see that for me when you hear from people like Rick who who are sitting on the ground. The energy on the ground who was going to show up not just these first group of 50 million that obscene made up their mind early on but who's to show up when early voting is and it'll actually election day is at that because the group this credit that's good to be the group to push this one where the other. The consensus is that there's not a lot of undecided. The consensus is who's you get out the vote that your sense yet for sure and and what I think is the reason is that we have very long election processes right we we've been watching this for three and half years I've been living apart for a nap.

You and so and so I think that were at the point where people know they've seen Joe Biden 47 years is been on the stage and is trying to make the appeal that a mere 48 is going to do something new and different, and then you got Donald Trump who is well known to the American people. His record is well-known. So I agree I don't think there's many people on the fence NIS. Actually I'm one of those people who don't think that there are a lot of undecided. Anyway, I think there are people who know which way there in about but they're reluctant to say or reluctant to pull that trigger.

But they know when they walk into the voting booth which way they're going were waiting to see now is so we of the early voting states that we had the mail and so I think with early voting. What were saying is that in person. Early voting is favoring Republicans the mail and voting is favoring Democrats have a flip from usual because the Democrats are telling everybody that you're going to get covered in right eye if you go outside and but there is a shift even the most blue state secretaries states in their say listen, the mailing voting. This is about it.

You don't want to be the one that's postmarked on election day like no we cannot promise you that voters can level to the turnout where the Postal Service is getting go so will those voters who they've told you're going to die if you go to vote actually show up. Voters could be the great downfall of of the Biden campaign and of the Democrats of the left is that if you go and show up and you've got a wait two hours on election day, putting your life in jeopardy.

How does that impact minority voters doesn't have is that is suppressing their own boats yes interested know I think the book I'm mentally below a lot of the election litigation with a whole team of lawyers and time is not a one person show, that's for sure. But you're right. In a very real way. This personal Moses reenters and see what happens. And I think the biblical that night.

I just have the sense of the biblical that night.

I think the margins because for that, you know everyone is looking for the Bush versus Gore moment is or can be the one case of this report that decides the election. I don't see that now I see a lot of can you count ballads three years from now the command can you count them four days later. This can be those who have and those now you have to have significant it has to be unbelievably close for that to make a difference. Look, let's let's go out on a limb. I actually believe that Florida and Ohio will be called early. Yes, I think Florida and Ohio will both be called by 10 o'clock one way or the other think that's right. And I think that Donald Trump is in good shape. You're going to have states like Pennsylvania where J you know this legal fight and dismantling ass in Pennsylvania is going to cause us to have delayed results and also will be getting results that night. Yes of the media's going to play that will all these mailing when I can call it but you have an idea with the margins look like yeah and then you can go in and look at the counties and say okay if we've got all of the Philly counties pretty much done they can't find the votes in other places. Remember in 2016. We won Pennsylvania because all of the red counties when blood red right right when I think it's my guess is it's a just a guess is that that's what happened this time. Having said that, we got a case right now in Pennsylvania that we were not able to get a stay on John Roberts with a free liberal members of the court.

Now that whole cases go up on what's called the merits. I think we we've a better success on the marital site but there's a number of these we one summer ready just to see how does a meal want a babe to ignore the courts here because some of these could be close but I get the sense that I could be wrong that the gaps will be big enough. Let's not listen to another Biden comment. His theme was he's in be the President for All-America not bread states not blue state and listen to this statement and I don't look at this in terms of, or he does.

Blue states and red states there all the United States and look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus there. The red states.

Okay, let Missy know that he said that I don't think I want to read it. I don't look at this in terms of what he does. Referring the President states and red states there all the United States look spit states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus there. The red states that he doesn't look at this shows you that heat he had these kind a couple memorize lines and just cannot move with the flow. I think the American people see through this. Yeah, for sure. I mean he in the room I could see that he was struggling a little bit. He was getting weaker couple moments that he was rocking and I was like oh he's gonna fall.

He hauled Tyler to the podium.

He literally was very weak.

And how about that. Glancing at the famous H. W mentally and he and by the way, when I was in the room.

He looked at the watch and you he almost did one of those like I can't quite focus on it and and stared at it a little bit too long and I think what was going through his mind as holy cow, I got a lot more time and I'm struggling here think that the two minutes, uninterrupted hurt Joe Biden because he couldn't go is having Joe Biden go for two minutes is how you get statements like that and then you get into real debate where he it does actually have to answer questions from Donald Trump himself and the oil trouble. There is red states blue states think that it would all that I do honestly think that that the then when he gets into these flat-out denials we get into next segment flat out denials on four monies that direction yeah on fracking especially see oil and fracking and what he said put the video put the vehicle course the truck campaign had the video operator play people immediately while they were still going on, of him three or four times during this this campaign season sing was to in fracking 1.0 play.

The next segment that XM and I will say this, that an elderly pen played in the segment, but also thought about the race relations issue because when you look at what the President is done and people try to ignore things like prison reform sentencing reform planning to starkly black colleges save the historically black colleges on the money that was going to inner city urban needs directly without all the government bureaucracy then Carson's yetis completely revolutionized the Housing and Urban Development off you look at that you say. My goodness will get into that, we come back from the break and enjoyed by you been there for 47 years. One of his claims to fame is the 1994 times at which would more black males in jail than anything in US history will be back in just a few moments will take Carlson, and I can take this word and say on the substance of this document only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stay with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition will show you how you are personally publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in what Obama care means to discover many ways your membership is empowering the right question for mission life today online/challenges facing Americans is no constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you for your thoughts. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ everybody race issue came up that was one of the topics the Presidents done with historically black colleges which were in desperate financial shape revolutionized. You look at the prison reform issue sentencing reform Joe Biden been in office for 47 years claim to frame his fame is a 1994 crime bill which is statistically has put more African-American young men black men in prison than any other legislation in US history and present again. The present comes out in incision I gotta make some changes here and applauded from a life or a lot of these changes but the President had hit it head on. As Joe Biden try to make the President as an Xena phobic racist and also by the way, denied that he said when he closed down their trouble from China that was Xena public and in July and said no that's not true I become a matter had to listen to one on race. Why didn't you do it in the eight here's a short time ago. Why didn't you do it you just said. I let her do that to do this. You put 10,000's of mostly black young men in prison. Now you're saying to get under that, why didn't you get it done yet eight years with Obama joke because you're all tall and no action to move onto the next section Republican Congress took him into a chair.

Signed document to like I did with justice reform. I have taught Democrats into brilliant best, you know, here's the thing. Let's let's let's be honest about this, that the 1994 crime bill meant that unit was 26 years ago.

If you know someone some young African-American kid who was put in prison and his been in prison for 10, 15, 20 years and times for these minor offenses if they could still be in prison because of Joe Biden so so in 1994, everything changed. Where immediately you were putting young black kids in prison for decades yet for minor offenses. If you're listening to this and you know if somebody whose family was affected by this and they may still be in prison or their lives were ruined for being in prison, 15, 20 years for something minor. This is Joe Biden's fault in what Donald Trump's point was Joe if you knew it was bad which are now saying it was a mistake. In 1994. You had eight years to fix it. From 2008 to 2016 and you still didn't fix it. And many of them were left in prison for another eight years know this is this program wide and he also I think the President pivoted towards this excuse by Joe Biden. Why couldn't you and Obama means you are this transformative presidency, you could do anything for African-American males who are overly incarcerated.

I will Republicans were in charge of Congress and then of course present troubles replace what Democrats were in control the house and we still got criminal justice reform through if you actually dedicate the time to it may and you are willing to again maybe 80 or 90% of what you want done. You can get it done. Interest was even a priority for Pres. Obama or Joe Biden, and then for them to come back and call him a racist and xenophobic. It just doubles down on one Joe Biden has not been effective politician. Some people can spend 47 years in Congress and have a long history of things that they've done to be the most high-profile people, but they been they been part of massive legislation. We can only point to that crime bill that he's part of the super predators and all of that and even at in office as vice President when he's the outline guy who said no we should go after Osama bin Laden in the room. He's the one guy with the worst foreign policy advice in the room so even under the Obama administration they would listen to Joe Biden, either for for advice on policy.

You know it's interesting on that was.

He also picked, Harris as his running mate. Now as a prosecutor.

She put thousands of black males in prison and we sought maximum sentencing so this idea that the left places like were the compassionate ones will you know the concert is the one that got prison reform done. We got the release programs put in place. We had the diversion program for drugs put in place for drug addiction.

Some of the things Job 1 of the onesies on.

We need to have drug courts, no you don't need to have a eight ability to signal organ to divert this from the criminal justice system and get these people help so just know what you listen carefully to what you see art last night. Nonetheless, I'm here that you want to get fracking I do I do can I make one more going on this.

This is why we've seen a total explosion of the support for Donald Trump from black voices for Trump you you see black males coming out for Donald in in record numbers, and when you talk to them they say look at none this guy and he is with us and he is really working hard for us.

So it's really amazing that that the support is coming around for Trump African-American.

The black community has been very entrepreneurial, especially under this present yet because the regulation we also additional but the backbone of the American economy to small businesses.

There a lot of African-American on black own small businesses so you know, look at becomes pocketbook issues at the end of the day what is impacting my family my kids and their worry about that to you and if you get a receipt from oil. The amount of jobs that would take you talk about that the opportunity is for for African-Americans, small businesses and think about the fracking issues. Another huge employment issue for battle in battleground states specifically just so happens to be Pennsylvania, Ohio, the list goes on. I take a listen to this exchange because Joe Biden called for last night. He said show me the video I said I want to bed. Fracking take a listen by 97 I said I oppose fracking you said hi. I did show the tape put it on your website and put it on the field including call fracking make sure it's eliminated as you. This is such a political thing. If you the trunk and paid. This was like manna from heaven falling onto the ground because the man said to close the oil and gas industry fossil fuels goes way beyond the fracking capabilities. It is possible fuels, as is the problem of Washington DC. Yeah, these politicians will say anything in a moment like that and they forget that we have Google, they forget that we have the Internet and end it's a outright let the rest of us outside of Washington, we say that's a lie. I so I select that and said he lost the judgments of most of the media. They just uncovered because they know how dangerous that is for Joe Biden that that statement so that I can one highlight that it all throughout the mainstream media campaign will local media will radio will people are going to hear that message over and over. I want to end oil I want in fracking out in all all the fossil fuels and said he lied about it, but I mean final question since Richard you be traveling across the of the country and in in this kind of final minute we got you today is as you are traveling around the country. What what you looking for specifically. And for for people out there listening, but I think the Republican Party has to expand to working class that has yet to show that we are a broad coalition. I don't know what the Republican Party does after Donald Trump because he has dramatically changed this when you look at all of his rallies. All of the will. The work that the surrogates are doing. When people come out is a working class Americans.

These this is a different type party and I think Donald Trump is winning because he's expanded the tent yes. So I think significantly expanded the tenant outside the stereotypical God demographics like this man, like the black community just I think this is been a year. I think you saw you today if I were a lot more to come back will be back in a moment on the frontlines protecting your freedoms and rights in court in Congress and the public arena.

The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC and counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow. We just had on Rick Grenell where we were discussing the Jordan, fallout if you will, or the analysis of the debate. I will now be on the debate because we're literally a week and 1/2 and election for the presence of United States so I got our director of policy Harry Hutchison harassing her counsel and economy jointly, but later went by our senior visor enough foreign policy in Middle East affairs and that is West met, but I will start with Andy debates are done we're literally 11 days from the election putting all of the ads away putting all of them asked you the same questionnaire put putting the ads aside just looking at where the candidates are right now. What is your sense. My sense is that the President of the United States is going to be reelected. I have the distinct feeling that the population United States supports him, supports his foreign policies. Certainly the advances that have been made in the Middle East are tremendous. The piece that we have achieved between Israel and the United Arab Emirates. The other countries in the Middle East. We are going to achieve the come back in the economy. The coven forest of the Democrat has said is the result of the present United States which is ridiculous to say that the President has been the person who is responsible for coronavirus when he sent ships to New York and to California to have a dad and when he stopped the travel from the from the European countries early on as early as he could and was prudent. The fact that he is shown leadership.

The fact that he shown initiative.

The fact that he is shown that he can lead that he is the only one really who's got the business acumen to bring the economy back the opening of up of the economy. All these factors to together and militate in favor of a person with his strength of character and the advancement that he is shown on all the issues of that is my prediction that is my hope, my sincere desire yet.

So what's interesting though, course areas, the polls are dead even. I mean if you look at the battleground both.

We did this earlier in the week. He's turbine is exactly were Hillary Clinton was the end result in 2016. The course was at the present was elected present United States but somebody states were very close margins. So putting again kind of looking at it right now. I don't think anybody should presume that this is a done deal. Even 10 days out. I think that is correct, but I also think that the American people are tuning out the mainstream media narrative which is up about 100% anti-club and so I think the President. Pres. Trump will be reelected in part because there will be a wave of Americans who will come out on the other hand, I think it's equally true that the American people are becoming more and more where the Biden agenda and the Biden agenda will threaten the economy will threaten Medicare and will threaten Social Security imagine Joe Biden as Pres. where the marginal tax rates in some states when you add in the state income tax rate will approach 66% of income and so I think a significant number of Americans will recognize this makes no sense.

I also think many Americans believe that Joe Biden will continue to promote if you will, disruption, and also protests that are disrupting many of America's major cities and so I think at the end of the day the American people will return to elect Pres. Trump because they will see him as the safer, more stable choice and we also saw any very quickly here Amy Barrett come out of the Judiciary Committee, she will become.

She will be on the bench could be as early as Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, the Democrats boycotted the Judiciary Committee therefore permitting a unanimous a referral out of the committee of this eminently qualified judge of the Seventh Circuit to be on the Supreme Court. She will be excellent excellent candidate member of the court will be collegial, will be a fair minded and will do with the law says and what the Constitution provides specifically more into this. Coming back from the break.

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I think that is correct and I also think you are so right to focus on the economy, which is basically the result of a knock on effect if you will, of the coronavirus pandemic. But I also think that the American people are good at remembering what happened in 2018 and 2019, when the unemployment rate in the United States fell to 3.5% and that was the result of a major tax reduction for individuals and corporations. In addition, Pres. Trump D regulated the economy. Hence, if you look at African-American unemployment and Hispanic unemployment. They reached record lows under Pres. Trump so Pres. Trump has delivered economic growth for all Americans in one of the things to keep in mind is that the Democrats prefer to deliver economic growth for the cronies and so if you now turn our attention. For instance, to the alternative, which is Joe Biden. Joe Biden wants to increase taxes between two and $3 trillion over the next decade, but that won't pay for all of the initiatives that Joe Biden seeks to fund and guess what those initiatives will craft benefits for elite cronies of Joe Biden so I think the American people have a clear and unmistakable choice between the cronyism of Joe Biden and economic growth for all Americans from New York to California from Michigan to Florida and from Pennsylvania to Oregon – this Andy because we thought about this lot. I agree with everything Harry said but all hundred percent but on this issue of what I think is an issue and that is the tilt toward socialism. Joe buying several on the Democratic nominee on the Democratic Party. But the fact of the matter is the base of his party has shifted significantly left in the vocal base of his party's is left is frankly I can ever remember. I don't remember it more left I thought there was going to be a significant turning point J when Obama was elected and elected President. I thought this is it socialism is come to America and to a great extent and almost did, but then became Pres. Trump and will return to the high level of capitalism investments economic growth, rejection, unemployment, all of which were due to the Presidents initiatives and suddenly we are now facing ourselves within it with a real clear choice you're either going to continue the idea of the use of money to make wealth for all people. Capitalism the are the classic idea of capitalism as we understand it and that's not an evil that's not a bad that it's a good that is what is advanced society through the ages read the wealth of Nations, you'll understand that that is what it is that is was advances. I you have a choice between that and you have a choice between regressing into socialism on the European and the Russian models before the revolution in Russia. Why did they abandon it because it was good though, they abandon it because it took away personal initiative and that is the last thing in the world that we want to see happen in the United States. I want a socialist country. Most people don't want to socialist country. I want a country where I work where I keep my wealth where the poor and the unemployed are taken care of or things like that are done because we need that as a matter of faith and as a matter of Christian charity. Yes I think that's an important thing to do but it's not important thing the confiscated wealth and we are on a path definitely with Biden of socialism.

Look, I'm agree, take an example of the Trojan horse why Biden is a weakling.

He is a weak person.

We are now we coming in with him you are bringing in a plethora of people on the left like go to assist Sandy Cortez like you like the people who deal with her and who were part part of her ilk, and those are the ones that is going to be turning to why because those are the ones who are going to have put him in office. He's not going to be the moderate that he paints himself to be. He's not a moderate. He's going to be beholden to those people who put them in and those are the lefties so Harry, following up on that because I think this is a real issue is really shaping the American people and that is this when you look at the trajectory where the left is going and you look at it as to economic policy itself whether it's healthcare, whether it's regulation, whether it's big business. The risk factor for the American experience as we know it is significant absolutely sure what Joe Biden offers is something that I would call Orwellian socialism. Basically he wants to take away Americans freedom freak freedom. Joe Biden just like Michigan's governor Witmer wants to use the coronavirus pandemic as an excuse to shut down churches to shut down small businesses and to make all Americans dependent on government handouts except the elites noticed one thing in this particular election, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, the big tech companies.

They are all supporting Joe Biden and why are they doing that because they recognize that they can profit from a Joe Biden presidency. Meantime people who live in flyover country will bear the burden of the Joe Biden economy, and so I think the American people at the end of the day will reject Joe Biden's version of Orwellian socialism as a follow-up question if you if Joe Biden was an officer in other words, if interest we can few days, he wins, what would you see is the first major economic move. They would make would it be taxes, would it be expanding their Obama care plan to make it universal healthcare where you think it goes well. I think one of the first thing they may do is to attempt to pack the United States Supreme Court because they recognize that a lot of the initiatives that they support could be blocked by a conservative judiciary and so they might seek to pack the United States Supreme Court. That's number one. Number two, they would turn their attention to controlling the economy. But keep in mind their control of the economy would basically control the economy for middle and upper middle-class Americans for the super wealthy. They would provide carveout deals, particularly with respect to the green new deal which Joe Biden fully supports its on his own website and the green new deal is very much like Obama's support for quote unquote solar energy which was a massive massive failure. Now I want to go to the court packing issue because we just had, the judiciary chimeric committee and become a better weekly.

Barrett is now been through judiciary committee there was a there was a protest vote, if you will call the Democrats boycotting about what she's going the floor on Monday could be proved Monday, certainly no later than Tuesday. That's not court packing that's filling a bankruptcy and eat and he explained what court packing is what FDR try to do your this story yes court packing was a plan that was in and by the way Joe Biden called it boneheaded at what he said what that it was it was a time during the Great Depression, when Pres. Roosevelt was was proposing all these progressive policies. We began the national toboggan ride to bankruptcy and an even though my grandparents thought FDR was the Savior of the country. We have to be realistic and in the retrospective history and realize that that is not in fact the case. The President decided well. The Congress is rejecting all my plans to do this and that with the economy the takeover of the economy by the government, which is what it was and so he decided well I'll tell you the supreme court's ruling that all my plans were unconstitutional. All just add some more justices. I just add there's nothing that says I can add 15 justices of the Supreme Court. In other words, take the judicial branch of government and politicize it. Make it a branch of the legislative branch of government and Pres. Roosevelt for all the good things that he did in the leadership that he did during World War II, and I respect that. Very much in the leadership that he showed tried to pack the court by adding justices that followed his progressive ideas. Joe Biden is going to do that and the Democrats if elected are going to do the same thing. The independence of the Supreme Court is going to be compromised. If you have justices on their core political hacks that is wrong I we come back from the break game.

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Let's go right to the foreign policies because very different views on foreign policy and will talk to Andy about what happened in Jerusalem in Israel. That was a big event but let's talk about the foreign policy difference is, and you also have a babe. I post on the website dealing with Iran. But let's start with the general foreign policy differentials West them according to the Iran situation there could not be a more stark contrast between Joe Biden and the President is forced foreign policy goes. Pres. Trump is been criticized for holding our allies and or adversaries accountable. That's what a ineffective good President wants to do.

You mentioned Iran that the chief foreign policy issues for whoever is elected President will be China and Russia in the Middle East. Iran and the President can can rightly point to some of his successes there. You're one of the things that I think ring so hollow and it it's directly related to foreign policy is Joe Biden's promise that he is going to return to normalcy, whatever that is.

But in light of his evasiveness on answering questions and courting at the backdrop of the whole hundred Biden issue.

We have you know his push took to re-sign the Iran nuclear deal, BJC, POA, and by the way, that part the Randian bar arms embargo. Eight. It expired last Sunday.

The reason that it expired was whenever they were working on the JCP away the Obama Biden administration promised the Iranians that they would not re-institute the arms embargo. If they would simply sign the JCP away. It was put there to sweeten the deal for the Iranian mullahs and so you look at all of this and most Americans they vote based on knowledge, not only their pocketbooks. The economics of it but also foreign policy and all of this is making. I think the electric very uneasy and uneasy electric electric tends to be risk-averse. They would rather stay with what they know is supposed something they don't know and so I think changing administrations is a risk, especially as it impacts the economy and foreign policy and I think the American people as each day goes by J more and more they're leaning towards staying with the President they know because of issues like Iran and Russia would be the most dynamic differential in the first say hundred 20 days Joe Biden has promised that he would immediately reenter the Iran nuclear deal that would be that the biggest thing right there. I think the other thing you're the Obama Biden ministration. They were very anti-Israel Pres. Trump's euro Middle East plan that involves Israel making peace and normalizing relations with other Arab countries is what's bringing peace to the Middle East.

Once the body ministration if they were to be elected start drawing back from Israel again.

That will make all of the Gulf states and the other Arab nations completely uneasy. They want to be able to depend on the United States to be their ally in this there signing own two normalizing relationships with Israel because of Trump's policy so I think those two things reentering the JCP away and then backing away from Israel will be very, very damaging to all of her foreign policy. It will give our adversaries encouragement will give our allies a sense of betrayal and uneasiness and I think those two things would happen almost immediately. Interestingly, that and that Wes brings up the situation with Israel. We were in Jerusalem when the official recognition of Jerusalem was the capital of Israel was made by the United States to the statements from a lot of the pundits was and a lot of the Democratic operatives and Democratic policymakers. This is going to further isolate Israel.

This is because more destabilization in the Middle East, but it's been exactly the opposite, exactly the opposite, exactly the opposite. You know, no other President had the guts to do what they said they were going to do and that is move the capital of the Embassy of the United States from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the present United States downtime said that is what United States policy is Presidents have threatened to do it. I'm going to do it. I did it and he got a good deal on the landfill. He said he got a very good deal and in taking the land that we now have the Embassy on converting it and making it an on and Embassy United States.

I was privileged to be there, you were to and the reaction of the Democrats was this is it will have no credibility with the Arab countries they're going to hate us and despises his enemy wars is going to be uprisings just the opposite happened. Why because it was what the middle east understands J.show of force. They understand that, and they respect that and they're scared of the President because they know he is a forceful dynamic person who won't put up with any garbage and consequently what the UAE has now made these other countries and were falling into line shortly. I think the other countries are there to do the same thing but it's because the United States is shown for you. Don't go like Pres. Obama did to the king of Saudi Arabia and bow down before him, that is considered by the Middle East.

If you read any history to be a sign of humility and subservience. This President has the respect of the Middle East because he showed force and that's what they understand, Wes.

We had the Abraham records that were signed and more countries lining up UAE others. It would take completely counter the narrative of the Palestinian Authority and it Joe binds advisors who would've never done this or absolutely you know it is like Bill Gates at the know, the former sector defense for Bob Gates.

He said that no Joe Biden has been wrong. Every major foreign policy since is been in Washington DC for 47 years and that is true, the, the Arab states. They realize that the real threat to their safety security to their survival is a ran into a lesser extent Turkey. They also realize Israel is not a threat. And so as we are bringing peace between Israel and those nations, it is that the best promise of peace in the Middle East in my lifetime and all of that you look at Joe Biden statements his policies. You look at the Democrat party will, of which he's really not in charge of them. He's following that the left leaders and people forget Wes that under Pres. Obama, where the US was a safe veto to protect Israel. He reverse that is the end of his term absolutely and and and Joe Biden wants to go back to those same ideas the same policies. It will spell disaster or foreign-policy writ large, but especially for the Middle East. I think people tend to forget what was going on at the end of that administration. So when you look at foreign policy. You can't look at in a vacuum. You get what you saw this first payment Wes what you saw 12 years ago now is what you can see again. Absolutely insane people and Joe Biden. It is essentially set as much the same people the same old policies that have not worked for decades will go back to that and enjoying.

Frankly, we can afford to do that and I think I hope that the American people are savvier then at and they were realized they do not want to go back less question for you that is a militarily government have left here militarily. Pres. Obama versus Presley so I would say this way, military, under the Trump pension ministration versus the Obama Biden administration differential absolutely by the time Pres. Obama left office after eight years.

The military was depleted half of our unit United States Air Force fighter jets were not flyable on the Marine Corps had lost half of their billets for their fighter pilots. The Navy was down to the lowest number of ships since World War II, Pres. Trump is literally taken. Each of those things and reverse them and rebuilt the military and the analysis will continue, but the boat is in your hands for the next 11 days of your voting element. I mean I think is probably close to 75 million people voted by now, maybe more so the selection is well underway. In just 11 days. The American people besides our Constitution mandates the next commander-in-chief of the nine states will be I will encourage you to do this we never tell you to vote for. But I would encourage you to vote your conscience. Make sure you exercise your road right to vote, your constitutional obligation that exists there better do it for our broadcast today.

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