13 Days Until the Election, Polls Tighten

Jay Sekulow 13 days until the election and Paul's time being déjà vu all over talk about that Jay Sekulow live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow phone lines are open for your questions right now: one 806 843-110-1800 68412, your host, secular your phone calls 100 684 31 to the course tomorrow is the final Presidential debate in Nashville Tennessee. That's 9 PM Eastern time will be a lot of focus on that going into that and, of course, out of that on Friday but will try to look at the polls and where they were state-by-state in the last election cycle where Hillary Clinton was where Donald Trump was where Joe Biden is and how things turned out that if you go and you start looking at key states. You take Michigan for example, which was carried by Pres. repertory 60 x .3% four years ago, Hillary Clinton was leaving in Michigan in the in the in the RCP.

The real clear politics average of poles of the poll of polls by over 11 points, 11/2 points away outside the margin of error she lost the state by .3%. Donald Trump took Michigan Joe Biden is only up 6.7 so he's five points behind where Hillary Clinton was you looking to get how things turned out there look at a Wisconsin where Hillary Clinton was up seven points, four years ago. At this point, Biden only at 6.3 please underwear.

Hillary Clinton is again present from Carrie that state by .7 in states where Hillary Clinton did win so in bed arriving New Hampshire. She was showing that she was up eight and she she won only by .3 by destroying he's up 11 to New Hampshire. These are not state whether the Delta past when just give you some examples that they're not all Trump victory statement Fred states in Nevada showed Hillary Clint was up 3.7%. She carried the state by two. For right now the polls are showing the binds up five in another major battleground like Florida for instance Clint was up for in the polls died was up is is up 1.7 to the polls. Trump carried it by 1.2 process. It will put two points in 2016. So I usually go through this list and you see again Ohio and/or what it hit right now just numbers wise because if you show the music of the one of the Extreme turnout numbers so four years ago Trump was up .6% and it's not really much to so is is tied this year. The real clear paths average with bind up .6 per Trump carried the state by 8.1 points so in 2016.

So I think that I get.

As we said that that the left. They love to put all this focus on how it could be a landslide for Joe Biden, and the idea they try to get you not to show up to vote, but I think what happens is, is there side that shows up that the size of the shelter vote because you start hearing numbers like that from the left.

What I'm tell you is it's very close and every one of these states is winnable for conservatives what they like to do or say how you dealt Trump has no chance that that's absurd when you're speaking to the left which is what they do on MSNBC. These other networks and you're telling people basic. They don't need to go shelter vote. There's nothing she pull out today that show that 60+ percent of Trump supporters are still too nervous to put aside out there yard or bumper sticker on their car.

That's a huge number. Talk about silent majorities.

There is, it shows up in that pole.

So I think that again there is you can see this kind of more optimism of the right to be.

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You know, strikingly similar to exactly where Hillary Clinton was now that mean it's the same election notice admit we have a present Trump's spent four years in office. So there's more to Judge about exactly is his governance style and what is been able to accomplish with covert with other young think that the outliers Hillary Clinton had a lot of things going for her, but also mostly against her, and they wanted say it was first President was a woman but she had so many negatives that didn't even cut out way that that notion or that kind of that that kind of campaign pitch because she was so well known and had it kind of divided people, then you got your so Joe Biden is different than that potentially but he also has a bit out there very much. He certainly IMEs like this week is eight a debate and he's done nothing but practice for a debate is an hour and 1/2 it's in important but were never sure exactly how important those debates are art really anymore unless you have a just horrendous performance and people pick up on that because people are so partisan who pays attention, but to do nothing all week and entered me. I would like to attend, but Washington DC because then I think when you when you look at this if your Democrat strategists. You had to start figuring out okay maybe were trying to play it a dozen plus states that we need to choose eight of these and really and really push for because we cannot live off these polls when I can survive off off of off of the four-port leads efforts of all II just don't think it's a very good strategy for the former vice President to allow the President to be out among the states and then just to be slowly preparing for debates. I don't think that's a good way to connect with voters.

But Jordan, you look at the numbers and you ran through them on.

This is why I talked about and let yesterday's broadcast. I think the only good analysis doesn't start with the polls.

It starts with the 2016 result as the basis and then looks at the state based polls on top of that foundation. And you're right, Jordan, you've got a look at it in comparison to how they were four years ago because there's no doubt that there still a silent or a Shiite majority. There's no doubt that we have seen consistent problems and how they do polling. Whether it's the sample makeup whether or not it's a look at registered voters are likely voters and then how accurate they are about whether or not those voters are likely to Jordan.

As I look at those list of states that she went through. There are 12 states their other President outperformed not in the majority of them last time he outperformed all 12 of them in 2016 and some of them.

Many of them by wide margins six, seven, eight, nine, 12 points Jordan to look if if I'm inside VP Joe Biden's campaign right now and I'm looking at these numbers and I'm comparing them against 2016.

I can be honest with you I'm scheduling visits in all 12 of the states and probably repeated visits I would want to be just preparing for the debate because those numbers are not friendly to him was better that way. Jordan – you folks would hundred 64 3110 at 2000 684-3110 and at what if you are in one of those battleground states or state we are getting a lot of trash you see the ads have the campaigns and made the people documented or maybe your voluntary maybe your making phone calls and knocking on doors on the we can use the rallies are coming in and so you see the signage you if you're in a solidly blue or red state. You don't get that same feeling somewhat hear from you. Those you were in the states, like around it that New Hampshire, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Georgia, Ohio give us a call was up you like on the ground in your and in your communities what you're hearing what you're seeing at one 864 3110 because that also gives a true sense of the fact is, if you don't actually talk to people in an honest and open way right now were people feel safe in their discussions.as Apple showed 60% of people are scared to tell of their neighbors. They support Donald Trump to put aside in the art at about 65% are too nervous to have it on their car is a bumper sticker.

Now I will tell you last election cycle. You know I was a kid.

It seemed like it was more of a statement this time around I've I've told you of the silent majority. If you really believe it. If you care people need to know that you who you support and I think it's important to cycle but it is he does make a true true very true statement that this idea that people are still 60% people too nervous, but the but the bumper sticker or the yahrzeit out and imagine what that's like. If you are in one of those swing states.

But when you look at these numbers, it is got to be extremely all these talk to believe there's a Drudge headline right now and I think Drudge is got off off the rails a bit, specifically because present, Trump has made it kind of irrelevant these kind of these news aggregators because he breaks news before you can even get the link up so sure it is not a Matt Drudge is no advertising any easier. Please kind of you to put these two things is a negative for ill is or could be a Biden landslide a look at the number I meet. The numbers aren't there right now for a landslide now in the likeness of the be a landslide for anyone when it comes to how much you want a state by what electoral landslide. If you look at where things were in 2016 where they are today. It would favor present Trump like poorly would be close and states yes he worked very close victory one Michigan by .31 Wisconsin by .7, Pennsylvania by .7 you look at others, though, that there try to see their battlegrounds.

He won by Texas by nine and he's up five the polls right as a five. The polls last time Arizona showed Clint up wanted this time shows line up for but there's a new pullout that only has Biden up wanted it wanted Arizona. You taught me how you see it and you say okay and present Trump doesn't win everything you want to know it's 27. The only real outlier is is that the present was up 4.6 in Georgia in up winning by five point once that was pretty accurate. This one has Biden up one or 1.2. So which is a little bit different, so I made. That's the that appears to be kind of the outlier. Yet even there though, what, where it finished it with notice today yahrzeit yes oh and then ended so troubled with lust by which you probably did it still overcomes margins if those poles are accurate. This is a much more nerve-racking sign for Joe Biden's campaign is supposed to be on this path this victory.

It was supposed to be so easy in and out so he's to be down from not so easy because all at once, and it is the best example of that. Yes it we could really, I mean typically that's a six point lead in the polls say the same average of poles abides under that and Trump wanted by .7 GB on a five-point lead so I again if you start on election night, though states start falling on the East Coast to Donald Trump yet to be crying on MSNBC real early real early in the evening.

The questions go to be like we talked about will enough of what we get enough of results, where they start crying. On election night at because you know in Pennsylvania that got three extra days to count Carolina nine extra days if the Circuit Court ruling Circuit Court's weight in their diet days yet nine days and that just on the phone will not, yeah, I mean so that you like, but again you could send out those appeals remove that than the North Carolina builder to move very quickly because of that they came out.

There's actually the fourth circuit case and then there's a North Carolina Supreme Court case of there's a number of cases in the pipeline that I can move very quickly. This report, I think it's it's conceivable during that you have two cases that the Supreme Court in a possibly this weekend yeah folks who I wanted could continue take your phone calls 164 through a timorous starter that we get back from the next break but I think that would would you look at these these numbers again and courtesy. Of course you have a debate Thursday is the final debate. I forget you know they'll be a lot of people tuning in.

But but at this point you're speaking to a very narrow audience who has not yet voted and has not yet chosen who they are good for your speaking to a narrow audience during but you know the one advantage I think the President's campaign has your speaking to the same audience you want. Over the last time. I mean, when you went through some of those numbers in the Rust Belt and I would specifically say, Wisconsin, Michigan, a Pennsylvania, Ohio, and I think Joe Biden's campaign would probably say will look the President probably needs to win three out of those four to win it up within the President's campaign would come right back and say, oh, but I won all four of them last time. So you're you're completely correct. There speaking to a narrow band of voters. I think the biggest difference though is one of the candidates has already convinced and very recently to vote for them. That's a big advantage right folks bring it to take your phone calls 164 3110 IP put away and we best recall and from those of this list of states who got calls and from New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Ohio ready to go. We get back on Jay Sekulow lives always support the work they see LJ and ACLJ.org that's ACLJ.org and again I think that this a critical time for you to begin weighing and we are 13 days out from election day, 13 days after deciding who the next commander-in-chief will be in the United States will remain present Trump or will we take a giant shift to the left in our country. A President lying to very different choices will direct only one.

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Jay Sekulow restricting your phone calls. Now what hundred 684-3110. I would ask for college specifically from these battleground states and I were to write to Ruth New Hampshire online one Ruth, welcome to Jay Sekulow liger on the air. Ruth know that he had them only once her nightgown with through the roof for trout and I don't we've been being signed for month not little find, I mean you flying all over the place and really the only time that I've seen many died in kind within the last month or two night stay there 15 to line for truck #think I'm kind to everyone-it's interesting because we look at real clear politics average. They have the VP Biden up by 11 in your state. Hillary Clinton was up eight, four years ago and she ended up winning New Hampshire by .3 yet which made so they hold a meeting with these depose New Hampshire think are very tough people there very independent independent minded voters are used to politics to get a lot of politicians all the time. I think that it trains that way just because the northeastern state so the pulley will trend in the Democrats direction. But as you see the results don't the results don't turn out that way naturally that so again it does come down to one. This is a different kind of turnout election and I guess we take it would take for your because it is a different pattern election because you don't have. You're not doing the exact same kind of grassroots you. What if there wasn't covert you to have you do a people still getting out the vote. You have the phone calls each of the door-to-door campaigning in some places, but it's not the same. So do you. This is really good to be up to your own supporters enthusiasm to get off to get outs to go out and actually vote even to put the ballot incorrectly in the mailbox you have to do it correctly or else the ballot doesn't get counted. I think that you're already and you will see the Republican voters are much more motivated voters.

They know if they don't show up. They always lose because there are less Republicans and Democrats registered Democrats have to really work hard on turnout and they have become a party. This become extremely reliant on specific segments of our population. The African-American vote and and winning 99% of that vote, but also turning out the vote in significant numbers is Joe Biden going to be able to do that in Kabbalah scoring bill to do that when they're not even really out there. Their campaigns are not very visible. That's the that's a big what's interesting about the Kemal Harris not being visible because clearly you know she was she without some exposure to Cova 19 so they pulled her off, but you don't hear a lot. Frankly, since the vice Presidential debate were clearly in my view I made was overwhelmingly a victory for the VP Mike pence and I think you've kind of cheese, de-escalating her. Her presence I think is fair to say but there also look they got a strategy with Joe Biden that it's it's very clear and that is a strategy that says less is more. Don't that may keep putting the lid on it. They basically bought this whole week with him doing nothing other than debate prep right and and I think that's putting a lot into a debate that's almost like too much into the base, especially when debate certainly ahead if debates are important yes but everyone knows they really don't turn the election so especially with some people party voted yes you need to motivate your people to get out and vote right so why are you giving up these days so of not being anywhere and in your not be visible to letting the story about your son and these laptops dominate you.

I don't that's the thing you nothing. I was asked you this because I know that's swirling around Washington right now is a hole on the Biden saga in that story and the FBI now with the laptop and all that putting that in a just perspective, but there is an intentional move here on behalf of the Biden campaign did not have them out in this because I think of this other stuff. I do think that other stuff is adding to it for sure. I think part of that decision was made prior to a J just in England and one level I get it because the vice President just not it is not that compelling in that setting. And I think there a strategic decision was to keep them off the trail. The look I still think it's a mistake even if he's not that compelling. I think it's 2016 all over again. This would Hillary Clinton decided to do to put it on on coast. It did not work out for her and the other thing is Jay. I think it turned into more of what Jordan just talked about which is which of these campaigns can use the virtual world to connect with their voters better. I mean luck has there ever been a better candidate at that in the present the United States to sit with his presence on social media so that you know it's a mess. It's a strategic decision on behalf of Joe Biden's campaign and in my view it's it's a poor one.

Yeah, I think II think they have made a calculation, though I don't want to take you know anything for granted here. I think at the end of the day.then this is good become all about turnout.

Who is going to get. Whether it's early voting day of voting. It's good to be a question of turn.

If you look at the polls where exactly where we were with you know one outlier being Georgia where exactly where we were this very day four years ago get in go. I saw how that turned out. I agree with you that is can be about turnout. I would have we maybe had one layer today it's in a be about more complicated turnout than usual, and usually turnout involves either have to return your absentee ballot or you need to show up at the polls and you know there's just so many more ways to vote in different states.

Sometime some of its before and and a lot of it is counting afterward so look it is good to be about get out the vote but there can be more layers to death and there have been before and listen. If you've only got one outlier in your whole list is real clear politics poll of polls. These why these guys asked if her neck is is on MSNBC. All they should. How much binding away by how much they did this the last time walked in they just did not look they don't learn from either they don't care is just about telling the choir what they want to hear because people don't show up, especially during Cova did we start telling them they don't need to. Especially when you're so reliant on minority voters in communities it will been impacted more by covert and also your campaign. Let's be honest, is not as appealing to minority voters in it. I don't think Joe Biden because his own record and who is been associated with the statements he's made. I cannot black beautiful for me. In a sense these things like that and and also is not doing as well among Hispanic voters. So you put all that together and you realize weight I meet so I get.

I don't mind if they keep reaching out to their world that they got it in the bag, go right ahead. Stayed home don't campaign on the Don't know get out the vote efforts don't knock on the doors company phone calls out try to rely on just television ads and and social media.

See how it works out for you. Hope you have your York got your speech ready. On election night is Hillary Clinton that have speech ready now and I said it might be to say the Republicans have the back, absolutely not.

Don't like your bongo jar because II think that every poll shows you dance you have to run a lot better than every poll exactly and Republicans are better at doing that and I do think there are more self-motivated, we don't have to have the labor you can come around, knock on our door to get us out of vote, Democrats relied on that more. This kind of community organizing. That's what community organizing is Republicans don't have to do that. The Republicans are right. Republicans need to be running like they're behind because you know what they are good look at every single pole, but not all wrong that every single polls will now do I think they will be run at the end of the day. Yes, but when you're not up to 15 are not up 10 yes what run like you're behind because as I you went yeah right folks at Jay Sekulow live take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 is always support the work of the American civil on just the ACLJ.org that ACLJ.org will be right back Jay Sekulow live for decades ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular Jay Sekulow ever take your phone calls at one 800 684 31 got called in from Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan and will will start take those calls in just a minute you want to hear from people who are in these battleground states were living it day to day the campaign there that see the ads. The campaigns are there in full force and kind of getting this is what it's like on the ground and ended that could be very different in states like Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan can feel very different depend on what part of the survey.

What city you're a variable rural area.

What region of the state he would be very different and I'm looking at the states doing them saying which ones my dealing with that have cases that are heading up to the Supreme Court and North Carolina is one Pennsylvania others already had one up there. There's another one coming out of the Fourth Circuit.

There may be one coming out of Minnesota and Michigan so I'm looking to the states and saying you know that there's a lot of support. By the way, it's not is not game date Supreme Court cases. Yet these are business changes to the legislature legislation on Windows and absentee or a mail-in ballot have to be in the legislature did make the changes with the court stated, and then Wurtzel were arguing back and forth on this note, Pennsylvania the court when 44 against us next week.

In the barracks and there, but there's a be a series of cases that are up there before she gets their meeting. It was only so much you can do. You can't really control the timing on these things, so I will looking at Multum I know I'll be reviewing briefs tonight of one coming out of the US court of appeals for the Fourth Circuit. I reviewed all one just the other day that was coming out of the second premise display for what it's been a big so the courts of them have a role in the student if we get to where the ballots that voting is that tight, yet it all comes down to that question.

This shows that, but you know none of the polling shows that the if they're wrong that you were last time it didn't really come down to states in the present at an electoral landslide write a restart of me. There was no if one or two states were kind of still being figured out it didn't matter because the plea electoral number.

Anything happens I'll assess the human fan.

We think happens if there was an because all time at this possible upset George with us to find very hard to believe but if Georgia were to go Democratic into the Senators and the presidency.

What does that change in the in the calculus of the first and when I don't buy that.

That's can happen but my goodness, the polling very close. I would say this one.

I don't think I think Republicans will take Georgia and I don't think I don't think that's it. I think it's a pipe dream. Democrats number two I would say this the proper Democrats is that that's the only say were talking about, they could potentially take and what we got beat the Republican side of this is The entire rest the country, literally the entire Rust Belt the entire Midwest is in play for Donald Trump or timeout one state that might be due for Joe Biden in and talk about whether not get a present Trump to continue to when the sit.

He can barely get to 70 and 2060 got to 304 electoral votes. He doesn't have to perform as well and he still wins.

So this is the thing for Joe by what they want to focus on Georgia focus on all they want because I did.

It's better for the citizen's direction for the present to go back down the. For instance, not necessary and supporting Senate races down. They want to get you want to make sure you went. Also if if Joe Biden's campaign is wasting his time there you if you can. If you can make them spin their and make them believe that there actually have a chance that you play the shadow Gabe showed up there having rallies sit in the present. There say we think were down here and then guess what they spend all their money in the state.

They had no chance. And I want you to progress and what your thoughts about I grew turn on all the Presidential analysis on was most intrigued by the Senate races. I ultimately think that the Republicans will win both seats that are out but Debbie J.

The interesting thing to me would be because they're both jungle primaries and had a Libertarian candidate in one of the races and into Republicans running in the other special election you get over 50% to win it outright.

It's very possible jaded we can go to January 5 and both of those races could be in a runoff. You would Artie know who won the White House, the control of the Senate might hang in the balance and you have two races in Georgia with all of the nation's attention on it that would be something J Army comeback will take your phone calls 100-684-3110 at 2000 684-3110 coming from the battleground states those who listing watching art living in the state. You really sit on the ground living this day-to-day in their paper probably overwhelmed by substance campaign will be right back in Jay Sekulow life challenges facing Americans is a time when our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you for your thoughts. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable voice is.

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All also has been an important state for Republicans because it turned Ohio into the stated barely went into a much more red state. The question is does it stay red this cycle.

Tricia Walker Jay Sekulow live on the air Ohio are you interested I can love from London to Dayton. Mild radial drive and all I find I've been in my small town, but between here and Springfield, Ohio.

All IP Trump I seen every night since today I think you said you see that where people in states where you got the campaigns were heavily focused. There are more open to putting up a sign that the bumper sticker and you see this enthusiasm when he was against the real clear politics average of the poll polls and here's what it said they have it right now. Buying the .6 last time four years ago they had present Trump .60. They were basically basically or even that's all margin and then the President of winning by 8.1 yeah bigger victory there than in Georgia.

Yeah so what lessons here and blesses enjoy this Midwestern yellow spell it. Then I keep talking about is stronger than even the deep that the red's deep South is bid for Republicans right now. I think Connecticut maintains a because Donald Trump tapped into the blue-collar real blue-collar labor vote labor unions might endorse Biden, but the the actual members of the labor union are voting Republican. More and more just came back from Georgia. So what what should you were just down there what your field report to you what unit is amazing because I know Georgia they say is a close call as a battleground state, but everywhere you go see nothing but trump signs and Trump parades and I was in Florida for Marshall for the last week of Trump flotilla's writing around Fort Myers Beach in Fort Myers Florida and then to Mary, Florida saw nothing but trump signs everywhere and you know it makes you wonder because she four years ago.

Everyone said Trump was going to lose. The polls were really really really wrong and it gives you doubt about the polls.

Even now I don't think we can take anything for granted some the other hand, it seems like there is a will in Georgia where I live, which is 30 miles from south of the Atlanta airport is Ultram country totally. I noticed they disclose. I think your big metropolitan areas like Savannah Atlanta. Perhaps it's different. There, but would you get outside and support.

She has a Beltway in Atlanta and it is seems to be in. It is only anecdotal, but there's tremendous support for the President. We lived in Atlanta long time, but it was not that we remember what was Democrat to admit it been, like the blue dog Democrats and conservative Southern Democrat, but so fan and military joint to really expound the statement, take another call blitz and this rustbelt strategy. What happens in the Rust Belt will the Rust Belt is the most important region in the country, quite frankly, I don't say that to the dismissal of the other states and be safe. Orders can be very key. North Carolina's in amici and others, but but Donald Trump won election to the White House because of his sweeping essentially the Rust Belt some people would throw Minnesota in there but eyes I see the Rust Belt as Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. You just went through some of the numbers in Ohio. I mean 88 points in Ohio and Jordan can speak to this. That is a crushing victory in Ohio. Now the other three states were much closer inside of her birth percentage point but I still say the burden of proof. The obligation to flip a state is on the challenger. When you have a state that his condition to supporting a candidate of either side, especially in these battleground states J, it is always difficult to take that away. You basically have to go in and either find new voters.

Jordan went through some of these numbers yesterday.

Republicans have actually found more new voters this time around, or J you have to take voters away who are already conditioned to vote for the other candidate that is a very difficult thing to do. So if you look at not Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. In my view, that's the whole ballgame for Joe Biden if he can't win at least two of those states it's lights out foreign currency falls 164, 31, two people been holding on and were destroyed in order so Patty and Ohio line 6 Patty Walker Jay Sekulow life will go on more world about 40 miles south of Cleveland on been doing based Trump parade overwhelmingly emotional. You drive down the road with your flag and click on the side of the road, waving their flags endowing triumphant knowledge that I see a lot of what I called closet tempers. My son is 37 years old and he put it bluntly and in the last six months you will be turned around and now very vocal for him and in this election. QI think Pres. competent body in such a treat that we never think before I flag up on my house you know and everywhere. I also I have Trump 2029 flag that goes in the window of your car players around and I get comments on it every day I drive through McDonald's and I'm amazed at the 18, 20-year-old pickle man I like your flag. This is psychic to precision every done this before so it's cause you to dictate different behavior politically not wrong to say she never had you never were the person put a flag.

Your felt so passionately about a politician or political candidate.

You need to feel that you felt you really needed to kind of campaign for them and set to help their campaign safety have to be. I put the Trump sticker on my car a couple weeks ago and is actually up police officer pulled up next we'll say where what district we start political down the window and and just said it was like I thought maybe a light is out of my car like a gloomy over anything like turn on sleep.

Are you a little nervous if the police officer pulled on the window you notice itself pulled out by Ed and the police officer says I love your bumps here.

We can put ours.

We can put it on our part. Our patrol cars so for every one person put that sticker out there.

She's right, you get about 25+ people feels like, and we look tell you how much they love the fact that you've done that you take that action.

I look at this pull the polls at our team put together and the analysis they put together. I look at it and it tells me thing and that this is working to see a repeat of 26.

That's what it looks like to me with maybe an outlier Primus Georgia thing I but I know I still don't think so.

The present one Georgia by 20% by five so maybe dishonestly but that's what it's starting to look like.

To me it looks like that were were getting ready for a repeat of 2016 Georgia certainly competitive.

It looks like 2016. The one caveat I would give to that and we we've given it before, but any of for those states that we talked about were inside of a point so you're talking about a very minimal shift that we are required to flip those states and change the outcome of the elections. They certainly don't take anything for granted.

But you're right J of the number certainly look like 2016 and also maybe add one layer to that in a silent majority conversation. I don't think it's always just people who are afraid necessarily it's it's people who you know were undecided until late in the game. Or maybe you know were conflicted until the end of the end of the day if they going to the ballot box and they pull the lever for either candidate.

Quite frankly, that vote counts just as much as the person who has that bumper sticker has that flag and I think that segment of the of the electorate this time.

J actually think that segment pretty large as well house grandmother calls it was going to Pennsylvania Patrick and Pennsylvania online to a Patrick looking to Jay Sekulow live hello. And we have within the city did not you get them by size or high level of the city and if you put from find out they're more likely to get taken but if you look at the store at the bakery. Trump and Biden go.

There are thousands and Trump are purchased at a bakery and and very few Biden in the stores you go to their Trump paraphernalia everywhere, and there's nothing Biden. One thing that's that's very good. We went back to me when you see entire businesses set up around it.

I political candidate who I think is to get heat. He supersedes where's Joe Biden is not bigger than the Democrat party party is way more in control than Joe by this Donald Trump is bigger than the Republican Party's brand is bigger hit.

He is bigger he's taken the party to first that mean that if he doesn't win the Republican parties out there anymore. No, I mean just for now.

It's not like people are but not by Republican sites that their buying Trump signs and that's that's it. That's why I think as someone who is conservative when you add Republicans to the people were buying Trump signs you would not necessary consensus.

Republicans in any poll that's when you start seeing these these these victories occur.

It's a great point during because I actually think this is probably the Presidential election site cycle that has the least overlap between party affiliation and then candidate affiliation turn. I actually think there's a number of states may we get into this in a later date, or you might have them go for one party at the Presidential ticket and the other party on the Senate ticket. I think there's going to be more than one of those states.

Jordan yet, which I think underscores that point. The people don't see necessarily voting for President Trump to vote in advance for every Republican or all Republican policies or Republican Party. He is bigger than that. Like you like him or not, he that's just a true statement in the stores and the whole economy that's been built around them.

The flotilla's etc. that that's a six like I cannot Republican parades. Their Trump rates the Trump flotilla is not Republican flotilla's Jay Sekulow life.

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We got the key battleground states Kelly, Minnesota, Ohio, gets old yet. Really, it's all the calls.

One question though this debate was supposed to be a foreign policy.

Okay then you look at the way that Dave laid out the topics and it's barely foreign policy with use of the foreign policy differentials just take a minute on this are significant. They are very significant thing that most Americans are concerned about are the economy and foreign policy and the whole foreign policy issued that the biggest challenge that any President will face in the next term is how to deal with China, Russia in the Middle East and already some of the rhetoric that Joe Biden is using gives people serious doubts about it. For example, they ran an arms embargo expired last Sunday, which means now around will be able to buy tanks and aircraft weapons.

What have you United States the Trump administration says we're going to keep it in place not only not selling them weapons, but we will target any corporation or country that tries to sell them weapons. Meanwhile, what does Joe Biden say he's going to re-sign the Iran nuclear deal. The JC POA. He also says he somehow going to hold a random check that just doesn't pass the believability test and with the RN at arms embargo expired Sunday this issue. This is in the front of the line of thinking people will be interesting that's in front of the debate moderator when the debate will not be will not protect culture like the photos we go Skoda lands in Minnesota online one Lance, welcome to Jay Sekulow accident this Odyssey you are in a state again which is heavily contested, with both sides we see the ground by calling him a member of our grassroots organization and I do doorknocking it every time that we talked a company that will Trump or whatnot tell us that their prey tell people that were attributable for their now I have pictures on my car I own account. Also, member of a homeowners association and they have a little in their association rules that we can't post political sign anything like that in our yard will coordinate being that those dying as speaks so they violated the freedom of speech, so I thought that I have three dark sides of my God have a flag in your community generally immediate.

You said that when you go to people there still saying their fate acknowledge that there in favor of the President, which is what happened last time your county go last time have the vocal in the county did your your precinct County Gary for the present or not. What all Democrats real estate for the week. I know that I like going for very elderly lady 12 2020, where, and she leaned over and whispered in my ear that we are the silent my whisper campaign series and I think that will carry the day. Thanks for calling you good. Click on one Minnesota 5% half so this is one of states were thinking like it's a little bit like over Georgia for Republicans that is for Democrats.

Like if if they're losing Minnesota then then it's it's it's or it's even close like that. It's like a landslide.

The other way and I because that's where you can like to into the respite we get a lot more liberal, such as a blue-collar sons like Michigan it's it's a lot more of a liberal eye to liberal white vote that you got a live there, which is that which is different than the diligence of those other states throughout the Midwest back to photorealistic you go in and people been online cherries in Ohio online threesome sure what part of Ohio you calling from your little town called line north of me very well be content. Trump once in a while he'll Biden down in our area like Toledo anything very Democrat Leno and I have my bumper sticker on and I have my man Democrat up there may not even something that that mankind hear the Lord to keep me think that I'm at work and now in our area here mostly lecture and art Trump time again folks this to me. I don't know how they were the peasant may have some hazard Republicans. It is Democrat. They were not putting out the set aside. It's like that's what there's even a state like Ohio battleground was like you went out 30 minutes outside the city in every farm you drove by every large piece probably had the political side that's what's happening on this different.

I think that the polls can't figure that out. You can't figure out the piece the movement that is behind what what I would say is it like if it was Obama on the other side you might be able to combat that because you have a movement when you have no movement sought.

No one cares about your Biden when he knows I don't think any Democrats will feel bad for him. If he loses it will feel bad for themselves right. They won't care.

They don't actually care about Joe Biden right. That's why think the hunter they don't care they just don't care. He's just a vessel. Where's Donald Trump is $100 Mondays he's changed where Republican Party is so populous that that's why the hunter binding really probably doesn't change the percentages because Bill was voting for him because of who is right. That's probably the issue. He could be the most corrupt guy on earth. The only reason there if they're only going to vote for him because he happens to be Democrat. He's not Donald Trump and no one's been able to win election off that yet the first time well in his invasiveness and sort of hiding out and not really taking their many questions and not answering the questions when he's asked does not help me there that does not inspire people and so yeah there's not a lot of momentum is truly an Illinois online for Judy Walker, Jacek.

I get ready battleground. I want to know Eleanor might want election only I county outside Chicago area Democratic rep not far from Illinois native so Judy efforts as well. County down by fury and you're exactly right. Once you leave the Chicago area that is virtually entirely red. Now when you talk about statewide election to its obviously Presidential elections are. It does tend to be pretty deep blue's 1 x 16 points by Hillary Clinton, but if you talk about congressional races are certainly most of the state's delegation outside of Chicago would be deeper and so yeah go farm country Illinois cycle. I like how they shared in Minnesota online. Five a share) and really quick, Minnesota. I live in the St. Paul area downtown Minneapolis downtown Duluth areas, which is in central Minnesota for Biden, but everywhere else that we've gone. It's all been for Trump and it's kind of scared to put up a sign because late September we had someone have their garage burned down because they had a Trump sign on again your any real battleground Minnesota would be as a firewall state for Democrats if they if Minnesota falls, which almost did in 2016 and an I feel like the party has not done a full reckoning yet from that election is thinking that if they win this one to be.

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