AG Barr to Jerry Nadler: Grave Abuses in the Bogus “Russiagate” Scandal

Breaking news, Atty. Gen. Jerry Mandler and House Democrats grave abuses in the bogus Watergate scandal talk about that today Jay Sekulow live live from Washington DC questions right now. one 806 843-110-1800 68412, your host will for the House Judiciary Committee big Atty. Gen. Boris testified he is testifying both about Department of Justice decisions in combating these violent riots we've seen across the country that are still ongoing so it's it's called a hearing on the oversight of the Department of Justice and of course Russia gate gets involved in his prepared remarks which got cut short actually because this hearing started later this today because Chairman Nadler was in a car accident. He was not injured, but took him a little bit longer to get to Capitol Hill to that to the committee on the Judiciary's hearing room but Atty. Gen. Barr said this into any statements. This is part of the record. Very strong language of the US Atty. Gen. ever since I made it clear that I was going to do everything I could to get to the bottom of the grave abuses involved in the bogus Russia gate scandal.

Many of the Democrats on this committee have attempted to discredit me by conjuring up a narrative that I'm simply the presence fact at factotum, who disposes of criminal cases. According to his instructions. Judging from the letter inviting me to this hearing that appears to be your agenda today so let me turn to that first let me go to Stan Bennett in Washington DC said as we list this hearing very different questions very different tone between the members of the Republican Party on the committee and the members alike. Chairman Nadler and the other Democrats will during the Atty. Gen. turned the tables on plain and simple.

Obviously the narrative from Chairman Nadler, not just today but leading up to the hearing really for the last couple of years has been that the Atty. Gen. is nothing but a political pawn in the President's hand Jordan, he not only refuted that very specifically BX. He turned the tables and said look the. The importance of keeping political pressure out of the Department of Justice that is important on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue not only from the White House but also from Capitol Hill and where I have felt the pressure is from Capitol Hill. Jordan I like this line.

In that sort of same section of the prepared remarks that you were reading from he said while it may be appropriate here on Capitol Hill on or on cable news. That is to engage in political discourse.

It is not acceptable at the Department of Defense Department of Justice at the department decisions must be made with no regard to political pressure pressure from either end of Pennsylvania Avenue or from the media or the mobs Jordan. It was his way of saying I've got a resist pressure from all angles in the places that I felt.

It is not where you're saying it I felt it from the media. I felt it from Capitol Hill and by the way, that's the mission of many of these moms on the street as well. Folks can you believe that after time after time we get more evidence now.

We talked at a little yes it will target more today that you have Christopher steal the dossier main sub sources been identified. FBI lied to the Pfizer court and Sen. Lindsey Graham has has indicated he believes he'll be able to prove the FBI under oath lied to Congress and that means they've lied to the American people. Those are your elected officials directly and again those are both separate crimes because they said that it least the Christopher steal's main source was run in Russia that they were Russia based will guess what they worked there US-based at the Brookings Institute who's got a little bit to answer for now I will. I don't know if it will be part of that Institute. At the moment � trying to because I'm sure that's under a lot of scrutiny. I mean, just think about that.

Think about the fact that the agent who went to brief the Trump campaign which is normal as you get closer and closer to election day on national security matters was the same FBI agent test with investigating Michael Flynn in crossfire hurricane crossfire razor and put the notes from that meeting got into the briefing file but into the crossfire hurricane file which was to spy on the Trump campaign. Take your calls about this data be joining us as well. 1-800-684-3110. Remember July important month of the year for the ACLJ is a matching challenge month, double the impact your donation. Donate today@aclj.org will be right back. The American Center for Law and were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that.

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I encourage you to click that share button bring more people to this conversation as Atty. Gen. bar testifies, mostly getting beat up or attempted to be beat up by House Democrats over the response to violent riots in the fact were debating these two things to me shows you how absurd the other side of the aisle, is how they will not let things go. They cannot let the Russia hoax go as as Atty. Gen. bar called bogus bogus rush investigation, even at the same time that we have reports coming out on documents by the way, these are like just verbal sources. These are documents declassified documents obtained by Fox News reveal that the FBI agent who delivered the defensive briefing on election interference to the Trump campaign in August 2016 quote actively listened for certain topics using it as a quote cover to monitor then candidate Donald Trump and Michael Flynn. The document obtained by Fox News was declassified by Dir. of National intelligence John Radcliffe and sent to Capitol Hill.

So all these members of Congress asking these dumb questions about Russia gait and that's what they are.

This hoax just totally bogus new that know this information. They know just what I'm reading to you. They got the document but she didn't care to election year and I hope that you not listening to a broadcast like this. That's why share it with your friends and family right now.

If you're on Facebook and periscope get this the document was dated August 30, 2016 and filed under crossfire hurricane. So the document the notes from the briefing. They gave to the Trump campaign didn't go to like a briefing notes for campaigns that were doing right now as we get to the you get you start getting those briefings as you closer to election day because you have to be prepared to become present United States so he gets down to the final two. They both are getting their supposed be getting the same briefing. Of course, Trump and his team worked they were being spied on, because that was filed, not under campaign briefings for national security issues was filed under the crossfire hurricane file that was the FBI's codename.

As you all know for its investigation into whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians horse bogus to influence the 2016 election crossfire razor the FBI's codename for investigation in the Michael Flynn, the Russia sensitive investigation matter and the Ford agent restoration act. The document states that the FBI officials Kevin Kleinsmith Peter Strauch approved pit because notes case of that's who was the FBI change agent in charge of Joe pickup and this is very interesting to me. Penta the FBI agent who wrote those notes of the Trump campaign to spy on them was also tasked at the same time, he was already running the FBI's investigation into Michael Flynn. So Fox News was told this briefing again this is a declassified documentation now is been received. Fox News got a copy Capitol Hill has it's all the numbers of Congress asking questions today on the left of this that it was a quote. The briefing was a quote cover to listen for any remarks or Trump or others about the Russia Federation. That's just part of it because now we also know if they had the crisper steel source was a think take guy in Washington DC, based in Washington DC, not Russia and in the Pfizer request.

We know that the FBI said that the dossier was based off Russia based of information the people he wasn't and he was the main source for crisper steel on Christmas deals payroll and on the brick Brookings Institute payroll and it was not Russia base so they like to Pfizer whether it was the FBI lying to the DOJ, or that the DOJ and FBI both that the DOJ attorneys knew it or not, will be interesting, but there should be people go to jail and then fan as well. They did this it appears in congressional briefings, possibly once it were done behind closed doors because sitter Graham says he believes that Congress was absolutely lied to. Wow, these agents were testifying under oath, and that's a separate crime where you can go to jail that during a line time and time again to all sorts of different audiences and city including the United States Congress is a course is going to have penalties but again Jordan, why did they lie, they lied in order to create a false premise to spy on an American citizen. We have to keep coming to back to that it wasn't just some minor abuse. It was lying to spy on an American citizen and by the way, Jordan, that source you're talking about. That is now been outed for working for the brick and Brookings Institute Jordan, I think it's fair to qualify to call him to classify him as just a guy working in the United States who knew some people in Russia that isn't not what you base an investigation like this on a couple of the points he just wanted to quickly touch on a journey you mentioned Joseph P Inc. I just want to remind our listeners. He was the FBI agent. There was actually in the room with Peter Strauch interviewing general Flynn. I wrote the initial summaries which Peter Strauch then later edited Jordan, he is under a subpoena threat from the Senate Judiciary Committee.

I think that's probably why many of these documents are coming out. I think there's probably some cooperation happening here and just final point Jordan. People have to understand was this rooted in politics absolutely, but the impact went far beyond partisan politics torn everything that's coming together now shows that it really did threaten and undermine national security in the United States because the incoming commander-in-chief. Jordan who needed to be prepared to respond to these threats was not only not getting accurate information Jordan. He was getting fabricated information that undermines national security.

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Jay Sekulow be joining us is traveling so be joined by phone 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110. Let me remind you to before because we get the questions coming in like Amy on Facebook. Will anyone ever go to jail for this well. I believe there should be people going to jail for I know that there's a US attorney. They only investigate potential criminal actions and they don't to do a reports for report safes.

They investigate whether there should be criminal charges filed than it would go to court and were waiting for Durham and to see what actions will follow from that. But this is what Lindsay Graham thinks about it when he's with this new information that was declassified by DNI Ratcliffe was received by Capitol Hill to close the sitter Graham anybody that knew that the the Russian dossier was unreliable and continued to get a war against Carter page based on that document should go to jail for defrauding the court.

So you've got the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee right there say that people should go to jail. I think this is to question two on Facebook and then one really that gets the heart of Capitol Hill in the hearings like this which are so partisan immediate they get so partisan. The closer you get to election day and his attorney Jabbar noted, you could tell how partisan was going to be in the letter inviting them to testifying like how nasty they were going to be to him but but man from Facebook wrote wrote it because he of these people work for us why these Democrats want to just make speeches. My date went right in front asking tough questions.

I think it's because they know he should shoot shoot them down was better use both their time just giving speeches attacking him and not leaving him any anything really to respond to its absolutely that door and I think it's also the fact that the truth hurts then the November just be honestly honest back to me. There was no basis for an investigation here yet. The bureaucracy of the apparatus in Washington DC continue to focus on it. I think they know if they don't just continue to distract in a political way. It has a negative impact on their election will Outlook come November. I think that's the secondary reason Jordan. You played are you talk about Chairman Graham's remarks that someone needs to go to jail for this look I may not look no farther than further than James Comey and Peter Strauch and James Comey and it was running the show on all of this intentionally leaking information that he knew should not be leaked including conversations with the President for a political agenda of violating all manner of protocol. In doing so, and then Peter Strauch's signature is literally on the documents opening these investigations, refusing to close them against the advice of the Washington field office editing agent PN because a 302. The summary of general Flynn's interview out from the White House. Jordan, I think those two individuals have to be very nervous about the upcoming findings from John Durham should people go to jail.

Yes, I think they should be Jordan, I think it needs to go very high to the levels of James Comey and Peter Strauch. Not just low-level agents. The people that were literally signing off on the decisions that were made in running the show goes through and take your calls out at 100-684-3110. My dad be joining us in the next segment just about three minutes but I would also let you know really talk about this one coming up as well. The ACLJ with a big win in federal court with a FOIA request freedom of information act request. The State Department is trying to deny our request just right off the bat by saying it's called a Glomar response, and it's the CIA's usual and State Department week we can neither confirm nor deny that those records exist in the court said can't use that anymore because Ricker now. When he was director of national intelligence, declassified all of those unmasking request that were made so you can't use that anymore so come up with another reason.

Try that in court or turn the documents over and remember, they also included.

This is an ACLJ case that the argument by the State Department that it really wasn't Samantha power was bogus because you can see when it's deputies on the list. The Ricker now released and when it's the actual principal and that if it says the principal's name, date, the court has now made the assumption now.

You assume it is the principal themselves.

And guess who else that means alas unmasking request made of Mike Flynn was Joe Biden not his Chief of Staff says go by go to that victory. We can we get back.

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We are take your phone calls at 100-684-3110 at 2000 684-3110 and we will continue to update you from the hearing Atty. Gen. bar appeared before the House Judiciary Committee on releasers and oversight hearing it's it's it's but the two main topics are the administration and DOJ law enforcement response to riots and protection of federal buildings because right now it like France and Portland.

There's federal buildings under attack. It's not just protesters that peaceful protesters it's there under attack.

She had the left the Democrats on the committee siding with the violent violence siding with the writer states. That's where they cast their lot for this election. They think that that's that. Where people want to go so there there attacking it to Angel bar for that they're still attacking them, which is like unbelievable.

At this point that after all.

We just discussed about the fact that the guide was the main source of the dossier wasn't Russia based was based in the US think tank Brookings Institute and so the FBI and possibly the DOJ if they knew as well. Lied to the Pfizer court and Lindsay grandma said also lied to Congress and be two separate criminal charges right there because they said the main source for Christopher seal was based in Russia that's in their document in their applications to Pfizer and in testimony to Congress. That means he lied twice under oath. At least that's that's criminal charges are easy criminal charges, dazzling us a Jay Sekulow by phone and dad.

We also had a big victory would only told people little bit about it in federal court on Pfizer specifically on unmasking we got through the court. Usually these courts.

The state is the State Department this time and Samantha power, who made the most unmasking request of of any of the administration members as ambassador to the UN, which was very bizarre and she gets listed all the time. State Department try to respond what's called a Glomar response, we can neither confirm nor deny, the court said, not this time because it's Artie been declassified that she made all the request because what Rick and Rick Grenell did as his time is acting the night well with that plus the fact that they said that that of Samantha power would be treated in the court's opinion really very very good opinion that the litigated at our budget office or staff constituted her the same as it was for Mickey's request a minute you mentioned the idea that they would use this kind of defense where we don't like about this information to judge correctly pointed out that the former acting.

I Rick Grenell already had concluded that this information should be declassified literally. So what we have is a and we allege this in the complaint, the pattern or practice of these agencies to try to not give information and was becoming increasingly clear that the federal court system is in fact requiring that information to go.

You never get every Peter Blahnik activities in this litigation, but were getting a lot of information.

That information is helpful.

You have to ask yourself why was the ambassador to the United Nations engaged in unmasking Americans involved in the Presidential campaign. Think about that for a moment, which is exactly what John Durham and Atty. Gen. bar Atty. Gen. bars addressing those kind of issues right now so I think that big volumes to the importance of the litigation or engagement collaborative continue to pursue these to get answers of the American people deserve to get some sleep. Got the preliminary injunction was just filed in California on the singing man we got this for your Chi case. It's just now off the blog is up to ACLJ.org.

She can see the courts language as well on this with a big victory just getting past that Glomar response is huge because that they usually use that all the time in the intelligence world and that's it.

But they couldn't this time and they said directly. You can't do this. The ACLJ's with the judge said, and then of course we have the over 1000 requested of coming from families across the country. Parents, we are representing because their children in there and the family is facing significant hardship because of various school issues and preprint were preparing action in Arizona right now as we speak and in working with all those different clients and contacts of come in, but I would read that from the language from the opinions I think it's that important for everyone to hear what the judge said in this in this matter on this FOIA request it significant in this listener blog just to put in the context of significant, not just the Glomar response that a federal court concluded that unmasking request by as you said that power subordinates which was acknowledged in the NSA memo declassified by Grenell were quote from it attributed attributable to power herself is the quote for the court so it comes down to this are unmasking request made on behalf of power equivalent to unmasking request from power.

There is no suggestion here that in making the request, the quote authorized individuals were acting beyond the scope of their agency relationship with power. So here the request power, subordinates request from her and her whole response this publicly that his bid.

I did really make these request the court to set yes you did legally. Basically saying look that made that taken by my staff about what the court said yes you are, but again I go back to what was the UN and bats are doing unmasking security but obtained a warrant or or unmasking information that could obtained from American citizens involved with the competing Presidential campaign and our defense with I wasn't doing it by associates or an answer to that which your associates are you so you don't get the hide behind your staff in making Monday's unmasking request will be made. I think that in and of itself is probably the most significant aspect of this when and they may challenge it. By that I will be shocked at the State Department FOIA office files of appeal on that because that's that that with the landmark is very likely that impacts your body and the state bureaucrats about 90% you would look upon open secrets. He put all their names in donate to Democrats, so most the bureaucrats there knocking like the fact that now the court has legal language in federal court. It's a trip Joe Biden is the last name listed dad for what with wooden root canal made that declassification document on the Mike Flynn unmasking Joe Biden's name. It's not his Chief of Staff in Obama's case, it was his Chief of Staff's name Dennis McDonagh and the court is even single. That would be someone who would be that would be like Obama himself making the request. Biden's case, it says Joe Biden. So now whatever excuse he tries to use court said it was you Joe Biden.

In this case exactly right.

So this day said that a very significant precedent for transparency in government. The ability to get information for the ability of lawyers like at the ACLJ to go behind government attempts to work or to obfuscate or two in this particular case, blame others so that they would be responsible. All of that bodes well for the future of this type of litigation to get answers to real questions that the American people at this time is we have got a minute left here in the sense final segment first half hour and we come back in the second 30 minutes is a very important month. The ACLJ it's a matching challenge month which comes to an end at the close this week and and we've got thousands of contacts coming in ACLJ.org/help our attorneys working on these issues from FOIA to unmasking to the singing man in churches, pro-life issues, enforce all the school at school issues as well. Parents are facing. We represent all those people and all those churches and entities at no cost to them. Because of our donors and they can get a matching challenge donation now this month that it's important. It is important not to say that II woke up this morning to get a report of how many new contacts we think about this morning about door 88 families that families that have reached out for legal assistance to help their kids or permit get reallocation of resources which the federal will really help, but I want to say or ACLJ member that we can do without you charging the 1100 1200 family that will representing because of your faith, or to be a field trip the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be matched $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the work we do.

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The House Judiciary Committee chaired by Jerry Nadler who tried to impeach. Of course the, the President of United States Pres. Trump and this is a hearing involving the Atty. Gen. and oversight of the Department of Justice interregional bar who opened the hearing you give your opening statement in written form over to the committee because you never get enough time to go through your full statement.

He says his statement recording directly Atty. Gen. Bart ever since I made it clear that I was going to do everything I could to get to the bottom of the grave abuses involved in the bogus Russia gate scandal. Many of the Democrats on his on this committee have attempted to discredit me by conjuring up a narrative that I am simply the presence of factotum, who disposes of criminal cases. According to his instructions, and judging from the letter inviting me to this hearing that appears to be your agenda today so he had.

Then at that first calling is the Atty. Gen. of the United States calling Russia gate scandal bogus and fan now.

Capitol Hill is been briefed by the DNI on a new declassified document that shows the FBI was spying, using the same FBI agent who was going after Mike Flynn to quote brief, the Trump campaign as they were getting closer to election day, because that's what you do and then filing those briefings which were approved by Peter Strauch under the crossfire hurricane file, not under Presidential candidate briefing files and at the same time when we found out that the source of the steel dossier, the FBI lied to the Pfizer court so people should go to jail because he said the source was Russia based the Christopher Sills main source was Russia based, and guess where he was based Washington DC. Surprise, surprise. The predicted that one and at the Brookings Institute so I think take it that's got a lot to answer for. By the way as well about whether or not they knew this was going on because the sky was also getting paid by Christopher steel and you find out on top of see that all that together fan and that they lied to Pfizer and consider Lindsay grandma said they also lied to Congress on that Russia based sourcing is why the first place. The ever relied on that now. Did heavily discredited steel dossier with Jordan. Maybe a thought on both of those points.

First of all on the political pressure point. The Atty. Gen. went on to say the President has not attempted to interfere in these decisions. On the contrary, he has told me from the start that he expects me to exercise my independent judgment to make whatever call I think is right. That is precisely what I have done in Jordan, I think that statement up parlays directly into the second observation I would make. And that is that each of the individuals you just made probably need to sit up and take notice to the fact that the Atty. Gen. is doing just that, following the facts where they need to go and letting criminal prosecutorial decisions off all of the facts you go back to that to the to the phrase that you are the statement that you read Jordan and that he will dispose of criminal he will not dispose of criminal cases. According to his instructions. He is going to dispose of them.

Jordan based on the facts and the facts that are coming out a spell, a very troubling picture paint a very troubling picture for many of those individuals I would say including the source of that work at the Brookings Institute.

There was, not in Russia, a Jordan, I think that's yet another individual that needs to be very nervous based on what the findings of the Durham investigation will be in and Jordan look at it probably doesn't have a lot of value me speculating how that will wrap up who will be involved but look all of the atmospherics point to a picture that I think indictments are already being worked on and formulated. I don't know when we will know about them and who they will entail Jordan about all of the atmospherics say that that's what's happening. We will we will keep covering the hearing we come back on the broadcast will play more sound from the hearing as well a lot of speeches be honest is because the Democrats most of them don't want to tangle Atty. Gen. bar is too good at shutting right down and he's proven that time and time again. Remember, folks, we just had a big victory. Federal court on Pfizer explained that we get back if you didn't follow 6% of our representing over thousand families right now with dealing with the school issues all at no cost because you support the ACLJ financially if you can donate this month to matching challenge month ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that.

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Welcome to Jay Sekulow live hello and congratulations on all your great work that I have a quick question. You know we've been hearing for how many months, maybe even a year about the John Durham report and is it true that if the report doesn't come out in August it won't come out before the election because of some prior tradition that you don't put something out there like that in the hot electoral cycle.

It's like if this doesn't really get out before the election, and there have been stories about that whether or not dermis is going to be able to finish that was. He said people called to report. US attorneys don't usually does do reports use. I'm he might be doing. This is a special matter. Usually they're just tasked with with figuring out if there should be criminal charges brought are not that right Jordan, I don't think the election cycles got anything to do with what John Durham is investigating what is ultimately going to do when he is ready. He will then present his findings to a grand jury and a grand jury will make a decision.

I don't think he's going to make a report I think is going to make a presentment to a grand jury with the various charges of violation of the criminal laws of the United States. If he has found any in the church will call with a man I don't think that he's going to time it to affect or not affect an election is presented to a grand jury when the time comes. If it's before the election find if it's after the election find as well. I don't think he's going to let that affect the timing of the presentation of the case to the grand jury at all. So you needn't be afraid that the criminal process is going to be tainted or affected or influenced by electioneering so they go and I want to go to Bill's call and his and you think you're great at it again because of being the on the defense side high-profile impeachments mother investigation representing the present your senior counsel with ACLJ but still also at the state of Georgia and sometimes counties dish they bring you and is a prosecutor as well. Your former US attorneys really understanding both sides of of these issues and bill, it has a great question coming from Wyoming online.

Three. Bill welcome to Jay Sekulow live your on the air, owing to what going on been revealed so far.

I got a question for the whole panel to jump in on is effective with what's going on what happened if you can give an opinion of what could happen if somebody decides I'm better get out of this and making a deal with the Atty. Gen. to take a plea deal that means is the day there's other people going down you would take a plea deal is if you were going to bring other charges likely so that would be because this person had information that likely would lead to a lease criminal charges that you felt pretty confident people would be found guilty of committing crimes.

Yeah that's right if somebody knows something and they want to come in and admitted in court that they know something frequently to get it out there test working arrangement we call it plea negotiations.

They're free to do that and perhaps John Durham has found somebody who has in the course of the investigation, decided to admit to their wrongdoing will make a plea arrangement with the United States that defendant that plea sometimes can be sealed and admit that may not be made public.

It makes the sentencing may be deferred, but anybody completed any time, with the concurrence of the United States attorney and if it's accepted by the court and a lot of people do that we don't necessarily know during the course of an investigation of somebody played because as I said a lot of these pleas are taken under seal so that they won't compromise the rest of the investigation under seal means that the plea is made, but it sealed in the clerk's office and it's not a public record. It's ultimately unsealed, but anybody can enter a plea arrangement with the concurrence. As I've said of the court and with the United States government so that may be happening in this case we don't know treat you to take your phone calls 164, 31 timber talks about the hearing as well before the House judiciary committee that supports chaired source led by the House Democrats. The Republicans, the minority party the house so they they have members on the committee but the Democrats are in charge and it's led by Jerry Nadler chairs the committee and was one of the house.

Impeachment managers trying to remove the President from office or she failed doing that he still bringing in the Atty. Gen. United States to try and batter him which doesn't usually work very well when they try to do that to Bill Barr on the Russia investigation and you know it.

At any we we just had a big win in federal court on a FOIA matter on on unmasking because usually on these unmasking request involve national security issues like the Michael Flynn investigation and that's what ours was about specifically when you go to any of the intelligence agencies or the State Department which works a lot with the intelligence agencies they respond with what's usually because how the Glomar response. It's the bib it's basically the thing everybody hears and movies your week we can neither confirm nor deny it's like what the CIA is known for. We can neither confirm nor deny the court will accept that a lot of the times and in our case, the court just came back and said no you cannot tell the ACLJ this ACLJK Sammy. They said the court that the judge came back and said you cannot tell the ACLJ that because that little the record of who was doing the unmasking the Flynn was declassified by Rick Grenell when he was the acting director of national intelligence, so Andy that the fact that we've gone through that first hurdle to get this information on Samantha power, who made the most unmasking request that's part one of why this was such a huge victory and what I want your thoughts on that. Yes Jordan. This freedom of information act request that the ACLJ filed against the State Department is a great victory. Judge McFadden was very clear in saying you can't stay anymore on the unmasking. You can admit or deny the existence of records dealing with this. You've got to say whether you've got them or not. And then you can come in and say why they shouldn't be disclosed in the case of Samantha power, they wouldn't admit or deny whether or not she had amassed people, but you know what the court said if a principal does that that is that the big singer official does it through intermediaries and lower officials then it's as if that senior official did it himself or herself so Joe Biden can't say I didn't unmask it was someone who I told to do it who did it or someone who was there doing it at somebody else's direction.

Ultimately this you come to the restaurant comes to rest on my foot and that's what happened with Samantha power nap with Joe Biden is going to happen with Obama's chief of staff Judge McFadden's order is going to be upheld. And I think it will, and that was a tremendous victory for the ACLJ no more can the government hired by well, I'm not saying yes and I'm not saying no no you gotta say yes or no and then you gotta give a pretty good reason as to why or not. That is why all that information should not be disclosed, so that was a big victory that we had in the District Court in Washington, George, Jordan, Yemen. This is what was so important to me and I think that going goes to that point specifically and and then I get your thoughts on of the harassment Joe Biden. Andy was that last name on the on the declassified document that from the canal that the last person to put in a unmasking request on Flynn and was also the last people to get a briefing that we know about in the Oval Office from Comey and Strock and Sally Gates and others on the Flynn matter and then he put in, not his Chief of Staff. Even the court said if it was his Chief of Staff that would be like him doing it. But in his case it was his name was listed and they said regardless of him. Try to say it was somebody else if they had the authority to make an unmask request and work that closely with him. He put his name down that it's him under the law. That's exactly right. Another word you're the one who directs his subordinate or intermediary to do it. The law basically now, as stated by the court is you did it you didn't and you have to take responsibility for why you unmask that is to state disclosed the identity of the US citizen and that is something that Jovan is going to have to answer for. And I like to see what is required responses going a bit folks ready to take your questions was great to have Andy joining us as well on the broadcast again and so folks if you got more questions for us on the air. One 800 684 31 timber's still covering at the hearing it and if there's anything important. We need to bring to you right now. We will during our broadcast in the final segment we also want to take more.

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You can look at James Comey's own words when he said publicly on national TV, bragged about it. He laughed. He said well I just sent a couple of guys over Jordan. It was an open flouting of the policies and procedures of the FBI. It was an abuse of the a power that had been bestowed upon the FBI director and so look Peter Strock and Joseph P.

Enke might've been the two agents inside the room doing the interview, but they were doing it at the behest of James Comey and he needs to be held to account for that. You folks again one 800 684 31 tissue and talk to us. They still have some time to get passive calls and let me go to Mary and Marilyn online one. Mary, welcome to Jay Sekulow live and then lease will get you next Mary you're on the air. Thank you very much God bless you all you do and that Andy little while ago giving him thought that something said that the durum that Durham would not be pressured to take action on presenting evidence to a grand jury until he was ready to do so and Becky would not depression so that that my question is if that's true, and he doesn't feel like he is ready to present that yet and it doesn't, he doesn't get ready until after the election and it turned out to be a new administration monkey be fired and when he wouldn't that be the end of it all potentially could be that would involve one of those issues assess IVS expand that if it was Joe Biden who came in his Atty. Gen. wanted to fire Durham who's been there serve many administrations before this was done I remember after the election is 11 months so it's not like you don't leave on election days of the November 3 comes in then and then you're done at so that's one note but but second thing also. I think it would be pretty scandalous to shut it down though, it could certainly happen because they have that authority to do that Pres. has the authority to choose what US attorneys he wanted to fire them.

It will including it because their political appointees during both Andy and Mary are correct on this amended question it was.

I had actually been about will there be a certain point in the election process were report would be issued. Sometimes it is the case Jordan when it's Inspector General and it's not an issue that needs to go before the voters. Maybe you will wait till the political dust settles before issuing this report, but that's not what John Durham is doing.

He is pursuing a contract potentially criminal investigation, there might be indictments made and there will be no cutoff or that not only will there not be a cut off in August. There will be a cut off in November. As long as the US attorney is on the job. As long as the Atty. Gen. is on the job. It is their duty to see that to the end so you could have those. The indictment raised all the way to the end. Now where Mary's correct and you alluded to this Jordan politics and elections do have consequences. I mean if you have a change at the top of the Department of Justice of the Atty. Gen. Bill Barr is no longer the Atty. Gen., the new Atty. Gen. could take.John Durham off that task. If it was not done so and he is certainly correct. No arbitrary deadline in August. No deadline. Even at the election about Mary is certainly correct a new Atty. Gen. could absolutely chart a new course for the Department of Justice and it could spell the end of this you know I don't want to do a book promotion for Peter Strock but that they were into leases, everything he's got a book coming out is the guy who is definitely an investigation by Durham in some way shape or form, because involve too much at all this weather, not theirs. Criminal charges filed against him. That's up to Durham yet we don't get to make those decisions. The ACLJ were not US attorneys, not prosecutors, but he's actually coming out with a book and if you know about where Peter Strock is still to this day. Pretty bold because the book title itself is compromised counterintelligence and the threat of Donald J. Trump. These are the guys task the top levels of the FBI fan it with top level of counterintelligence too deep to deal with yellow these these issues that are so sensitive polyp, partisan politics is not supposed to play a role whether they like decisions or not, and yet he's come right out with a book calling Donald Trump threat right before the election do not get to document my hands.

One is the opening in the crossfire hurricane investigation.

The other is the overturning of the Washington field office recommendation to close rock crossfire hurricane what are those two documents have in common. They are both signed and authored by Peter Strock. So I would say he's got really two choices are the one is to go the book route. The James Comey Road went the other is to go the route that some are reporting Washington DC that Peter Strock is cooperating with John Durham and others adorn. I would strongly advise him to take that second path because he's getting out the James Comey route. These two documents that I'm holding are to be exhibits a and B as he finds himself faced with the federal indictment.

Of course I don't know what John Durham is doing but I can look at the evidence and if I were Peter Strock I would be trying to get out of the way of that train you folks had let me take leases, how quickly Colorado should hold on lease welcome to Jay Sekulow live will get your tire back in public or private. I am liking the testimony could not help line one part of lot now will fire. Not a lot that is huge from the series but is part of it. Unfortunately, set liturgical bars able speak out on his own as well and he shuts them down best to testify of ever seen support our folks matching challenge is on Friday ACLJ.org donate today will talk tomorrow at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad, limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be matched $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 could make a difference in the world protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family.

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