JUSTICE DENIED: Senate Dems Poised to Block Police Reform

Jay Sekulow live Justice nine Senate Democrats are poised to block the police before Bill talked about flying from Washington DC Jay Sekulow Bible hearing from the leadership on love my friends and visitors. As I say that their leaders do not want them to sign on for even a motion to proceed. Phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110 appears to me that if they follow their leadership. We will not have any discussion on the bill at all because they believe that police reform is a better election-year issue that police reform is an issue to be solved for the vulnerable communities that started this entire discussion, and now your host Jordan Jay Sekulow live your take your phone calls 160 3110 and it is being reported.

Now, Senate Democrats, you just heard Esther Tim Scott audio from him an interview he did say that he's hearing it, Senate Democrats are poised to stick together or at least try to that you got the leadership of the Democrat party try to stick together to stop the justice act, which was proposed by Sen. Tim Scott USAir from South Carolina Republican also African-American put together the justice act. Police reform that again you could you could see was some substantive, it was something to get it in the justice accent for the just and unify solutions to investigate communities everywhere act justice because at the Synod of their accurate up there, but that you had the legislation's been out for efforts.

A significant period of time. We supported the ACLJ, I would be calling on people to act now or start a C in the day before.

This was a likely to hit the U.S. Senate for a vote in it.Majority Leader McConnell out was looking for Wednesday specifically is the date now seeks the Democrat leadership so you got Schubert Durbin who remember call this a token effort and use that term and the only apologize that through his spokesperson, but they've also got people like tester at about 10 a coming out opposing this as well.

It is really tragic.

Jordan in the vote is scheduled to happen tomorrow. And remember, remember, is just a vote to proceed to consideration of the bill is not a final vote there would be a process where anybody could offer amendments, but it really looks like leader Schumer is calling the shots on this Jordan and that if white Franklin business they like it like it is he's choosing politics over progress on policy because I'm in a say it again I said it many times on this broadcast so many provisions in Sen. Scott's bill overlap a lot with the bill.

The Speaker Pelosi is advancing in the house and there is a real path to make law here because Pres. Trump is that he doesn't want to sign a police reform bill with many of these tactics. In it, but leader Schumer is pushing very hard for his senators inside the Democrat caucus to oppose cloture on the motion to proceed. That just means he is calling on them to not even debate this bill Jordan were hearing from John tester were hearing from Elizabeth Warren were hearing from Sen. Booker were hearing from Sen. Harris. All are going to decline at least as of now to even engage this debate. So far Jordan, the only senator who looks like on the Democrat side of the isle that he's in a vote to proceed to the bill is Doug Jones from Alabama Joe mansion has said he's open to it as well. But look at me just say it like it is you need seven Democrats to begin debate and leader Schumer Jordan. He's issued an edict to his caucus.

He has told them vote no were not even going to engage this debate. You realize the Democrats don't even want to discuss or debate police reform because it's election-year is disgusting and that they could they could again then come up with rules to this we can talk about where we come back at with multi-metaphors than Washington DC but they can come up with agreements to have debates on the minutes that they want to propose. Of course this legislation with the debt to go through the house.

We don't think this is actually the final legislation. This is getting the debate started. This is opening the debate and there opposed to it. So when they tell you that they're TAKING so seriously. The civil rights issues of our time there not the play politics is disgusting but is typical of the Democrat party really take your phone calls what he think about this move by Democrats showing their true colors if you will play politics with race but they're used to doing this, of actually doing real civil rights for one 800 684 31 to remember our petition as well. Our new initiative on school choice signed a petition ACLJ.org challenges facing Americans for substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades. ACLJ on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. Here's the bottom line we could not do or work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms event remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

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I encourage you to call it if you got reaction to Senate Democrats threatening to block Sen. Tim Scott's Justice act from leaving even moving forward in the U.S. Senate to debate that this Duchess threatening to vote against it threatening to actually prevent debate on the bill, which is a police reform bill that they just don't think goes far enough on certain areas with penalty goes far enough and we can get into that as well.

Why not propose a specific amendments and explain those amendments during the debate we either why because you like race for political purposes in election-year you don't like actually dealing with solutions you don't like school choice. You don't like actual police reform it get passed through Congress and at the federal level at this kinda speed you have to go so far with exit. That legislation will ever get through. Never get the Republican Senate. You will not compromise but this is typical of Democrats race for politics. Wonderful actual reform. Why did Mr. Bybee never seen any in Joe Biden's history of being in the U.S. Senate so long. Why did you see this done under Pres. Obama. Even for eight years. Why was criminal justice reform.

First, on, under Pres. Trump major criminal justice reform white lighted ticket Executive Order from present Trump to get the ball rolling on this because the Democrats would like to display at politics with that's that's the truth that's that's that serious sick truth of this and that and I'm not afraid to say it and you know you think people like Sen. Scott are not afraid to say it and let's remind you that Dick Durbin used terms like token, in describing legislation that was put together by an African-American, but it happens to be Republican US Sen. Tim Scott anything to me this is just inexcusable. I hear Cory Booker saying no it's not. It's not substantive enough that symbolic but not substantive why not have that in the debate to help tell the American people what you want to do put forward those changes. But at least have the debate on yet.

I look Sen. Brooker Sen. Harrison both said they like the house bill better than the Senate bill and they are the champions of that on the Senate side leader McConnell Jordan has said, look, you can put your bill up as a substitute and then that we can debate that the United States Senate, or you can pull pieces out of it offer them as amendments. We will agree with that adorn. Here's the bottom line. All of the common ground reforms therein. Both of these bills are not going to happen if Senate Democrats do not engage this debate only just give the four of them funding for police cameras. There is broad agreement in both bills that that should be increase that won't happen if the law is not made here making lynching a federal crime broad agreement in both bills won't happen if there if the debate is not engaged IA banning or reducing choke holds their different methods in these two bills, but both accomplish largely the same. And that won't happen if this debate is not engaged a reduction of no not work.

No knock warrants and reporting of those Jordan, that won't happen if this debate is not engaged. I go back to where you started, what is the only rationale for not beginning this debate. The only rationale that I can come up with Jordan is that one side of the aisle in the United States Senate. Once this issue alive.

Come November, so that they can campaign on it, Jordan, that is a disservice to the people that they say they are trying to help out with it. What present Trump again being the President of the United States.

They don't want a Republican led Senate. The passing legislation that are in the Republican President is up for reelection in a few months, assigning the second major reform civil rights reform if you will, businesses, civil rights issues police reform issue and they don't want him doing that they didn't like him doing that was criminal justice reform. You saw the response to those in the Afro-American community who worked with present Trump that because initially Republicans are supported him electorally on criminal justice reform which was major reform. By the way, and were ill or criticized.

Then you see this legislation again at calling it. Things like token but here here sooner.

Scott me this is what he's hearing about what Senate Democrats plan to do. Take a listen. I've been hearing from the leadership all my friends and senators on the Democrat side say that their leaders do not want them to sign on for even a motion to proceed appears to me that if they follow their leadership. We will not have any discussion on the bill at all because they believe that police reform is a better election-year issue than police reform is an issue to be solved for the vulnerable communities that started this entire discussion in the interest to me and again I want to write to those 1-800-684-3110.

I encourage you to share this broadcast watch on Facebook and periscope click that share but now with your friends and family. Click share, because bring more people. They should know the obstruction here in the truth. The truth is the reason why the left criticizes school choice is because they rather again. Continue to have political issues about failing schools in underserved communities. The real reason why the left won't even have a debate on this legislation is pushing that have a debate's stance in its pot selects its election-year they don't want a Republican present siding on to a major reform.

They don't want him getting the credit and and so they think it would rather not, as he said move forward on things that would make much stiffer penalties for the use of chump choke holds and and also at a federal level. By the way, which is difficult in its own world by that point had this reform because the funding that goes out you could have some, but to say your these notochord severely limit does have to report them on that the use of choke close and if it wasn't use a situation where police officers going to use deadly force already did either serious implications for that department. The truth is that's worthy of the federal government guy this federal laws on lynching commissions on the social status of black men and boys act I meet you're talking this is what this not allowing to have a debate about their not allowing a debate on law enforcement for not allowing a debate on body worn cameras but not allowing a debate on law enforcement records retention justice for victims of lynching, the commission, as I just mentioned alternatives to the use of force de-escalation behavior national a criminal justice commission act established a commission to undertake a review of the criminal justice system, law enforcement agency hiring education best practices. Studies all of this.

Folks again is being prevented from a debate review phone calls that 164 3110 Robert Scully from Maryland online to Robert welcome Jay Sekulow life. Yeah, I think you may think of my question as to the reason why Democrats are polluting the police performed about South Carolina and Scott and think of going up what alternative they suggested in any way to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and others within the leadership of the Democratic Party and the Senate. That should be included in the bill and glibly stated are some of the objections to the substantive asked asked asked asked about the bill that is being crafted and drawn up on Sen. Tim Scott in South Carolina.

But here's what's interesting is that they will not even they have their house bill that they could present during the debate Sue McConnell in the state seeking robbers.

It that that the majority leader said you could present that in it and we can vote on it and have a debate on its entirety. You can also stand come up with agreements on what amendment she would allow being offered, and have the debate on those amendments and then ultimately if this was even the past, the U.S. Senate, you have to reconcile this with the U.S. House subway anyways so it's not to be the final say on this. Instead what they're trying to prevent Robert is any movement in my my opinion they don't want that and I don't and what I things they want to see anything move forward on reform hundred percent or 90 because look to Speaker Pelosi approach on this is to get to a conference committee what you have to do to get to a conference committee, you have to pass a bill out of the United States Senate.

Now what a number of the Senate Democrats will tell you is we want you to pass the house bill which may get out of the house on Thursday at Jordan the house bill in the Senate Bill overlap by 60 or 70%. So what you would do if you actually wanted to achieve the house bill you would agree to proceed to the Senate bill you would offer amendments just like you said Jordan you would see where the process worked out in the United States Senate, then you would take the Pelosi approach you would go to a conference committee you would negotiate the differences and then senators would have another chance to vote on the final package they will tell you it's about an issue of qualified immunity are a few little various issues in this build Jordan if there were about those few disagreements in a conference committee is exactly where you would want to land but here's what I'll tell you if you want the status quo. If you want to go into the election without any reform without any change. You don't want to conference committee because Jordan that will produce a law and you can't have that going to into an election. The only way to maintain the status quo is to not engage the debate in the first place you I listened to Sen. Schumer on this talking about the justice act talking about this debate.

Take a listen. This is not a debate about tax policy or transportation policy is a matter of the constitutional rights of the American people and it is truly a matter of life and death, and unfortunately Sen. Scottsville is deeply and fundamentally flawed as you just pointed out 60% of this this bill is found in the house bill that they love 60% folks and edit it you want to act, then you can at the debate about you to qualified immunity.

You have the debate about that and come to an agreement. Stan said they know that the in game and this is that you have a you had the house in the city come together, they produce it they produce a bill in agreement. And that's the most dated that would be signed by Pres. Trump and that's what they can't allow. So if they really believed it was a life-and-death issue that actually take action on a but it's too good for politics.

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He called it token on the floor the Senate and when he apologized. He apologized through a press statement criticizing the act he did actually apologized himself. He did it through a spokesperson in a written statement that again, underscoring the truth about where the Democrats are on this, which is unfortunate to say they have a long history of behaving this way when it comes to race issues when there could actually be reform major national reform because this national agreement. Things that were wrong in the George Floyd matter, these other cases and issues that were wrong misconduct that should be addressed should be addressed. What you widely at the federal level and yet they don't want to even move forward to discuss whether what you keep seeing him on unintelligent say while they don't like it because not substantive enough to set of teeth in it at the whole point was to take the President's executive order and give it teeth van and you take an executive order to give it teeth you pass look just legislation. Legislation, which put your funding in jeopardy of the failure federal funding. In jeopardy if you don't follow along what the federal law requires you to do, which is what the justice act does all these different points in the state that criticism had on your name and wanted that when the areas where they will say doesn't go far enough is in the area of choke holds a no knock warrants Jordan what they want the federal government to do is take over jurisdiction in those areas and institute a federal band look that the Tim Scott approach says I also want to eliminate choke holds. I also want to dramatically reduce no knock warrants but I am not in a take over jurisdiction from state and local jurisdiction because that in the end would exacerbate the problem would take the power further away from the people. So what I'm to do is I'm going to tie the very extensive federal funding that go to these precincts in the form of grants. The most popular. The biggest one art would called Byrne grants Jordan and say if local jurisdictions do not comply, they will lose that funding in the end Jordan the same exact thing is going to be accomplished on chokehold and no knock warrants except for one thing, where the authority resides in Jordan. The Democrats want to pull that power to Washington DC take the decision-making out of local communities out of states where is the Tim Scott approach would leave it there so the end result. Jordan is the same thing except for where the authority of resides in on that one point they will say it's not substantive enough.

It is not accurate Jordan to say that this does not have teeth tying the Byrne grant funding and the other grant funding to these requirements will accomplish that in and they know it was Larry calling for Marilyn on line 5 Larry welcome to Jay Sekulow live your on the air today. I wanted to take a point of view, and that is the two things. One, this legislation is not been backed by any civil rights organization that opposes it, and then to was an interesting comparison made earlier about how the federal government will step is. Let's be honest, NAACP's neck and support anything Republicans before it is not and and so I mean if that's you talking about. Unfortunately, the NAACP has become is not the history but is become a group which, if it's not supported by Dave is not a Democrat initiative that I can support it will and and and again I'm indicative of disagreements with with with these kind of reforms they can have changes that they want but I think to say that no civil rights group timeout. These these groups which are basically become part of of the liberal Democrat party machine, I mean that's what they become. They were started.

That way, but they become that. But you get another point to make the point is that the only civil rights organization in America one and then to the second point is suppose that you not just ask you who also like I saw that they actually actively opposed it sets my address that if there's other groups you could mention them. But if it your time at Southern poverty Law Center. Same thing about seven popular considered historically to be a polite organization. But not only that, national organization of cities who had also but the second the second point.

What was that you mentioned earlier about the federal government stepping in and taking authority from the local state government, but with regard to abortion rights.

That's exactly what they've done. And yet you don't hear this argument being made in that regard. So there are some things that within the org within the bill, also with regards to liability for officers. I mean officers can basically run do a lot of things and commit a lot of crimes and they're never there been only 1% in the last 10 years of officers that have things brought before them convicted of anything in there been over a thousand cases.

So it's interesting to me to say that the bill has teeth to get more substantive issues in the more hard-hitting issues are not backed by anyone that represents persons of color accident. Scott does consider he's African-American group at South Carolina and has you so again, you can have disagreements with pieces of this.

This is not to be the final legislation even if it passed the Senate the exact way the exact form they have exteriors Posted about what had take this piece by piece wanted to say it's not civil rights is not civil rights of technically groups like the ACL tear civil rights organizations. We we again if you try that an African-American specific groups of that's their only focus exceeds that of the those big words of opposes will become very much apparatus of the Democrat party.

But second, then I think were talk about immunity issues at the civil level as well.

I think that's where he was going, but a lot of people who are reading there there putting their opposition to this. I don't think they even understand what they're opposing the truth is that they're getting talking points they don't fully understand what they're saying. So that's that qualified immunity is on the civil lawsuit side and you can get over that when you see a substantial and if you have more laws a substantial violation of laws yet. I really appreciate Larry's call during a really do it. I would just argue that advancing funding for body cameras are reducing the use of chokehold making federal lint lynching a federal crime. All of those are important civil rights advances Jordan that will be left on the cutting room floor. If this debate is not engaged if you're okay with the status quo.

If that's the civil rights agenda that you have that would be the approach to take. I think that would be a tragic mistake on the issue of qualified immunity. Jordan, Larry's correcting.

There is a divide in Washington DC. It's not strictly a partisan want. In fact, Sen. Braun is a Republican in the United States Senate has a bill to lower the threshold for qualified immunity and I think that's a bait debate that is going to have take place. I don't agree with Sen. Brown in this one that my position on it isn't particularly relevant here, but here's the point I want to make Jordan. If that is a part of this package. All those of their civil rights reforms that we talked about. They are can happen.

There is not a consensus on that right now. So if that's a part of that's built these reforms do not happen. The smart approach here is to get what you can get now and then the issues where there is a disagreement like qualified immunity have a separate debate take up Sen. Braun's bill and have a debate right folks, we encourage you continue to share this broadcast with your friends and family for watch on Facebook and periscope those who are why listing it on radio yet second half hour coming up Jay Sekulow live continue take your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110.

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You're just joining us for our second half hour. Let me just in a reset for your get the phone calls as well. One 800 684 31 to the will to get your thoughts on this. We been credit if the questions review but now Democrats in the U.S. Senate are threatening to block considered Tim Scott's Justice act from even moving forward with a debate on the floor of the U.S. Senate, so not even saying that the decorative vote no. But actually taking that additional steps they were not even get a debate this on the floor, the U.S. Senate are positioned. The ACLJ we support the justice act is that by doing this, what Democrats are actually the goal is is they don't want to see any any legislation that ends up on the President's desk. This would not be the final legislation if they took every word that Sen. Scott put together the justice act voted on that that would pass the U.S. Senate. I got offended in Washington DC things I can be what actually makes it to the President's desk and note Speaker Pelosi still controls the house and has to pass both chambers in order to give the President's desk.

So what what you ultimately do those would force the house the Senate to come together and come up with a compromise legislation and that's what's dangerous for the for four Democrats is that you could see President from doctors issued Executive Order, but citing his second major piece of civil rights legislation. His first term that yeah absolutely and and Jordan. We talk a lot about the politics of this and I think it has more to do with Pres. Trump being the one that would sign it and it does have to do with Sen. Scott bringing it forward. They don't want to hand him a victory in front and in advance of November. I think we had a call or talk about. They just don't want to oppose it because it Sen. Scott that might be partially true or not really think it has more to do with Pres. Trump.

They don't want him to have a stake in the city.

But how sad is that politics has to take a backseat to progress on this issue so typical of the Democrat party is that they love their issues of race or political purposes, but they but when it comes to actual solutions when it comes to solving managements when you see it like okay we can get police report of the federal level and extra solving that they don't want to move forward because of political calculations when it comes to improving schools and and is part of that having school choice available to parents in failing school districts. They don't want to actually move forward on that present their own by the teachers unions controlled by the unions, and so again, what we see on all these issues with actual improvements are put forward the responses either. While we can't do that because of this or you're not going far enough so reluctant to move forward all when I begin to let you debate can have the debate on the specifics of the issue even though that's a phony excuse because we just explained to you, this would not be the final legislation that ever got the President's desk is you have to still work with the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives that have to be compromises made on some of those those disagreement issues like qualified immunity that we talked about sup one 800 684 31 to if you got questions about this. It failed you still think this is gonna move forward to Margie think that sooner because Eric had a force Democrats to to actually filibuster this yet.

He's gonna take this vote. Jordan part of the reason he got pushed back behind the nomination of Cory Wilson was that he was trying to work out a deal he was trying to come to an agreement with at least seven Democrats, preferably with leaders humor us so that he wouldn't have to force a cloture vote of the Jordan.

He has committed that the Senate will not move to another piece of legislation until this piece of legislation is taken out and quite frankly I think that's the last move one. One point I would just emphasize Jordan II said that leader Schumer is calling the shots on this for the Democrats and I think that's true.

But guess what he does not get to vote for Sen. tester. He does not get to vote for Sen. John he does not get to vote for Sen. Booker self he might be calling the shots on this believe that hold each Sen. accountable for the vote that they cast there can have to cast one tomorrow. Are they willing to engage this debate holds up ACLJ that or we have a list of US senators for you to contact with theirs with their phone numbers.Democrats specifically because you need seven here it's in the blog.

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So it's not immunity from prosecution what it is is under qualified immunity to Dr. by the way, legally established doctrine is it government officials performing functions that you don't at functions as government officials where they have to make decisions.

The discretionary kind of function are immune from civil suit to just the civil suit unless cases exception already to qualified immunity. Plaintiff show that the official violated clearly established statutory constitutional rights so they were convicted under a criminal case, then you can you can almost certainly bring the civil actuary becomes more difficult is what a jury doesn't convict you of a criminal case to bring it because the qualified immunity standard. But all this is about the civil side of trying to what file lawsuits to get the assets of police officers who are underpaid speak. Let's be honest about that.

Nationally underpaid for the jobs they do not know. Let's talk about that as well. But then having the truth is that that is one of the big differences, but it's a difference that can even be discussed because you point out, there's Republicans in the U.S. Senate willing to put forth legislation to lower that threshold that I just went through to make it easier to bring the civil action the civil lawsuit against the officer.

That's right, Jordan, and I'm not quite sure that The conversation would end up. But you're right, it's essentially a discussion over how much per protection how much benefit than about doubt. Should a law enforcement officer get where should that threshold be Sen. Braun has a bill that would lower that threshold and increase the opportunities for those who believe the rights have been violated to pursue a recourse against that officer Jordan. Note that the debate on where that threshold should be is a serious one. I don't think there's any even disagreement that that debate can be in this bill. In fact, Sen. Braun can get with Sen. Booker and bring that amendment to this bill but what I'm telling you is the political reality is I don't see a compromise that can get to the requisite votes to actually be added to the bill. Now if I'm wrong on that they could add that during the course of this debate.

But, that is, underscores the point that were been making.

If you don't pass the motion to proceed. You can't bring that amendment. In the first place.

You can even have the conversation. The bill is dead and you get the status quo back to the phones Chris called from Illinois on line 1 Chris, welcome to Jay Sekulow live, you hey Chris, thank you for all you do.

While I appreciate being from Illinois, that the land of last opportunity anymore Dick Durbin's comment about Ken Scott and was actually disgusting when you played that last week I literally had tears in my eyes because I'm so embarrassed to live here anymore and it's actually one of the reasons why removing by Bill that he is proposing is absolutely brilliant and 60. Like you said 60 to 70% of that is already stuff that the Democrats have been asking for for years. So why are they so again even talking about that fit behind me.

It's Chris and Libby Ripley. That sounds disturbing to some of items were talking about I note you doing it. It was disgusting in his response is his fake apology was disgusting. As well, which was a written statement through oppressed spokespersons was even attributed to him apologizing. It was attributed to a press press statement, but but it's it's all about politics and consider Scott. He said it. It's about keeping the politics of this alive through election instead of actually getting reformed on when you got people's attention about it and you can actually come to an agreement and you might get everything you want but you make it two thirds of what you want. You might get 75% like it. 85% of what you want and get that signed and yet you're not willing to to do that because it's an election year, but this is what Dick Durbin said this is the beginning of this is you put out from Illinois, but also exhibit a stick that the Democratic whip is a top breaking Democrat U.S. Senate take a list so what we say, undemocratic signs, we cannot waste this historical moment, the singular opportunity. Let's not do something that is a token half-court approach is let's focus instead on making a change that will make a difference in the future of America and that that again he uses the word token and it's again that the racial connotation of that when you have eight African-American US Sen. whose legislature talking about insanity. Sen. Scott said that he was offended by that deeply offended by the statement from Dick Durbin and Dick Durbin's response was to issue a statement through oppressed person. I was offended by two Jordan every American should be defended by this debate is not a token debate.

In fact, it's the fundamental debate of our time. It's the civil rights issue of our day and our elected officials, of all people should be rising to the occasion to debate the issue of luck I would say the same thing I said a minute ago Sen. tester I should be offended by and he should vote to debate this bill, Sen. Warren should be offended by it. Sen. Booker, Sen. Harris, they should be offended by those remarks by leader Durbin and they should vote to proceed to the bill. In short, I would just say that I've never ever in my 20 years in Washington DC, seen a perfect bill or a perfect law, we make strides in increments. And if you do not agree that that is the case, you should not be a United States Sen. crooked to take her phone calls. What hundred 684-3110 at 2000 684-3110.a caller from New Jersey on line to Donna Walker Jay Sekulow live call complemented by appointment and not take what you politician here. What can we call our current politics, but in trying to kill us and like to be able to do something you need to do is is ACLJ.org. We take please give me the action item and since we put together for people. It's right on the homepage, ACLJ.org, you will see a post called. It's a time to debate the justice act.

If you click on that at that you will see a list of 13 Democrat Senators with their direct phone numbers to their office and we ask you to make the phone calls to those those cinders and asked them all you need to do is to ask them to vote to begin the debate on the justice act vote yes you not say they are to vote yes on the act just vote yes on the debate. We also encourage us a call both of your centers in New Jersey. One of those is on the listener, Booker, but there this is something that every one listening if they want to take some action today because is going to happen tomorrow, they can go to our website. We put together this specific list of 13 sinners.

They can also contact their two US senators at three very easy things to do, but very impactful things tournament if they sign a petition, we will be speaking for them in Washington DC. Of course, they should contact both their senators no matter who they are and then these 13 Democrat Senators that we pulled out because we think they are gettable. No matter what they've said on this Jordan.

We think that their previous statements or their political ideology should align themselves to vote for a yes to their direct dials to their offices are in that blog in that action point Jordan I would just give you a couple of talking points number one calendar take the policy approach LOC Nancy Pelosi wants to get the conference in order to get the conference, you have to have a Senate bill in order to get a Senate bill. You actually have to debate the bill so tell them to vote with Nancy Pelosi and proceed to this bill and one other thing I would tell them to say what Sen., Scott has been telling them your priorities. At least the ones you say you stand for. They align with the policies and the priorities the President trump is outlined they align with the policies and priorities that I've outlined in this bill. Let's come together and let's say the same thing. Let's do the thing same thing. Let's make a law, folks. If you do talk to us on their final segments covered up with 100 684-3110 at 2000 684-3110… This is Nancy Pelosi talk about this with Andrew Mitchell on MSNBC by 27 compromise between the Republican Senate position and the position coming out of the house to get things performed on the center always have taken the compromise Ellie strive for bipartisanship. You have the responsibility to find a common ground can't find a time to stand our ground on the stand I found to say no till you know racial profiling now to know not warrants that list goes on. Can be some compromise and some of the language in other aspects of the all of that and consider Scott. He said this as well. All of that famous in his legislation.

So now they move the ball of the move the goalpost as we say so that that because that he put that in there no not know to know, not warrants. The racial profiling noted chokehold and so now it's qualified immunity has to be the new debate. At least it's a different issue to move the goalpost door and are we actually trying to reduce the use of chemicals are we trying to talk about reducing the use of Joe calls because both of these bills say that they want to eliminate or reduce the use of chokehold of the Jordan. If neither of them happens to be no change in how chokehold are policed or enforced across the United states where I am pretty sure that many people in Washington see this when I talk about this tornado and acting one or reduce the folks go to ACLJ never take action on this is as second Donna called about what she can what she can do with got it for you up at ACLJ that organ encourages well to support our new school choice initiative. We believe education is a top civil rights issue of our time that we gotta take action on this sign the petition at ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable and is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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They would rather have the issue politically to have solutions. That's why the schools are still crumbly. That's why those certain ZIP Codes are so poorly run poorly managed and things don't get better.

Things don't improve they don't actually get that they'll actually pass the real reforms that use it for political issues.

They forget about it until they come back to it again with the country was to her.

They they come up with reasons why not to support reforms. Think about that they cope with reasons why not to support reform store education system not to support reforms to our failing schools not to support reforms to the policing issues. That's what they come with excuses why not to support 80 reforms any changes in the new solutions and listen consider Scott. That's what they did done with his legislation now by 18 there are priorities. Fortunately and unfortunately for Bill matches pretty well with the President's priorities and those two magic matches really well with my priorities in the Senate priorities on the Republican side. So now I haven't asked a political question if you get two thirds of the what what would you want out of the J. Why would you change the rules and change the goalpost to think about that today we just talk about that because the no knock warrant issued that chokehold issue.

The racial profiling issue. That's all included in the justice act… It's actually just a small part of what's actually included the justice act as body camber language. There's a whole host of different issues as commissions that will be established not to look at this, so they change the goalpost now.

It's like I think it's that their essays to qualified immunity issue and it doesn't go far enough there.

But of course then there's Republican senators ready to have that debate and even lower the threshold of what that is and Nancy Pelosi didn't initially say that was some issue that she could compromise on yet on I make a prediction for you Jordan, I think of that issue were debated to qualified immunity issue were debated and let's say the speaker policies put it opposition was adopted was it was added to this bill. I guess whose opinion it would not change leader tumors leader Schumer has decided he's going to be opposed to this bill, no matter what it is in what is in it. So I agree with Sen. Scott. I think we need to shift our attention away from leaders humor and actually talk to the senators who have a vote on this bill say to Sen. Coons or Sen. Kane or Sen. Shaheen or Sen. Cinema. Do you agree with Ludi leader Schumer that status quo the status quo is good enough or do you want to make progress on some of these issues. Let's take what we have agreement body camera fund funding making flinching a federal crime. Cracking down on chokehold and no knock warrants. Let's take that. Let's advance them and then by the way Jordan, let's have a debate on qualified immunity. Let's see where that lands let's see if we can come up with good consensus on where that threshold would be, but at the end of the day. Let's send Pres. Trump something to sign into law because Jordan if those were senators that I named in for 13 senators that we list on our blog. If they decide they're going to go along with Sen. Schumer we get the status quo. That shouldn't be good enough for them. I encourage folks to get out if your touch is there 164 31 until we got time for a couple more calls to repeat it. Illinois on line 1P welcome Jay Sekulow live. I liked the question but I'm wondering what happened to Joe Biden in the Midwest here.

We don't vary much here. Bottom no leadership and there is so many important issues being brought up just about every day, but from the supposed leader of the Democratic Party. There's not really much going on these currently sees their nominee for President and accepted nomination.

However, they have their their nominating process.

After they have their convention that they get together, but he is the leader of the Democrat party right now and then. I know you spent time doing virtual fundraisers, but I think that this issue is far too complicated to have him go out speak about if you have to actually have him break down why you depose Sen. Scott's legislation that he got like a follow-up question on that way too complicated for Joe Biden will because there's no rationale to oppose the debate or in any luck, you can have a different agree opinion on how to enforce a chokehold banner reduction on you can have a different opinion on where the threshold of qualified immunity could be.

But there is no rational basis to not support engaging the debate and I would tell you this Jordan on on this particular issue, especially with his past, especially with his past service in the United States Senate. It would be extremely valuable if the device performed by present were to come out and say to that, the Senate Democrats look this is an important issue. We need to engage it.

I agree with Speaker Pelosi. You should you should go against leader Schumer you should engage this debate, we can see if we can make progress under now would be enormously valuable. It's pretty telling. That is not in the conversation. Folks, let me, I just encourage average listen consider the avocado majority leader of the United States Senate about how bizarre this is the only group left in Washington that are reportedly a lot of off a discussion of police reform or let it proceed.

Same today are Senate Democratic politics look follow that whatever strange political calculation for making this difficult for our friend the will yield a common sense and to the American people's hunger for progress and found out only vote later this week. Again, it is so bizarre. The American people's hunger for progress and it's time for the American people come together in agreement that there needs to be this reform.it's happy the state level is already we can see federal before the presence put executive orders Artie done that we could see legislation that the present Woodside even with this divided Congress and yet they want to block the debate on it from even doing for in it.

They are the last group left the Senate Democrats who don't we would let this move forward with a debate.

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