AG Barr Says FBI was “Spring Loaded” to Investigate Trump Campaign

Atty. Gen. tells Fox News. It was spring-loaded to investigate truck campaign and ignored all the exculpatory evidence will talk about today Jay Sekulow lot line from Washington DC before the election. I think were concerned about motive force behind the very aggressive investigation was launched into the Trump campaign without it, with a very thin slender readers as a basis for phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110 source spring-loaded at the end of July drive in their investigative campaign and they really wasn't much there to do that on and I became more and more evident as they went, and now your host Jordan take your phone calls 68 31 two that's 6031 two and let me just tell you something. This is pretty astonishing from the Atty. Gen. United States. He set out with bread bear.

We know part of the interview I played yesterday evening or will play tonight that airs at 6 PM Eastern time with Atty. Gen. Barb but he said I would think about this statement, quote it seems that the Bureau let's talk about the FBI was sort of spring-loaded at the end of July. That's before the election to drive it there and investigate a campaign but ignored exculpatory evidence right there. Dad that is a serious serious accusation from the patient's top law-enforcement official, I'd say goes further than it actually is accusation is the top law enforcement official.

This is how he sees it will look talk about the words he actually said. He said spring-loaded I mean that this thing was ready to go. Even if the evidence didn't go there and this was a preplanned pre-sought approach on how exactly to handle this thing and the Atty. Gen. I think is been very forthright here as we know that the investigation by John Durham is moving forward right now, but I think we also have to be clear what to play. What's at stake and what is at stake is the basis of our justice system to start a criminal process against a Presidential campaign during an election on the thinnest of thin spring-loaded to go I think speaks volumes.

We think about that is the idea that we would take your calls on this 164, 31, two, that's what hundred 64 3110, the Atty. Gen., since the effort were made intense even following present Trump selection even as he said in the interview it became painfully obvious. There was little basis painfully obvious. There was little basis, and then he points to what happened with Mike Flynn. The other area of concern is that after the election, even though they were closing down some of it as receipt of the bike Flynn case and say there's nothing here for some reason they went right back at it, even at a time with the evidentiary support or claim support. Like the dossier was falling apart. It's very hard to understand why they continue to push it even make public in testimony that they had it investigation going when it was becoming painfully obvious or should have been obvious to anyone that there was nothing there, nothing there.

I will think about that yet.

Dad about that painfully obvious that nothing was there which should have resulted in no investigation going forward. So we said the whole thing was a hoax was approximately getting what the evidence showing that we were hundred percent correct. That's what a short devotional how to do his vertebrae more folks to our conversation and he thought it was really just admit it Washington DC joining us as well. My dad also with us. Take your phone calls, one 800 684 31 to which you have set out to play from Atty. Gen. Bart. His reaction also to this idea of defunding the police know Joe Biden finally came out said maybe that's not such a good idea but will that are talk about that with that politically with this new base of movement of radical left support that he was deftly trying to court and maybe they were too far for him.

Where does that boat go likely, the pastor goes nowhere, but we will get your calls your thoughts on this and what Atty. Gen. bars letting us know about this voting rush investigation, one 800 684 31 two that's what he hundred 64 3110 will be right back Jay Sekulow life challenges facing Americans or substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms than remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you.

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It's not something I've never seen before and I defer to Andy on this. I'm sure he has and I know it because none of us have never seen this before where you have a judge who then hires outside counsel to represent his interests before the Court of Appeals. Now normally when it's a Court of Appeals and there's a chalice to a judge's decision.

What happens is you appeal the decision the judges in a party to, it's the appellant and the appellee here you have the Department of Justice in general. Flynn on one side saying the motion to withdraw the guilty plea should be granted. Makes sense.

Then you have the judge saying that which should not and he is the party now and not in a technical sense, but he's got accountabilities while breaks, and easy to make argument and he that one still between what Bill Barr said yesterday about this thing. Being spring-loaded from the beginning, the whole investigation of the President to now we've got the whole scenario with general planets will play out live on Friday. It's a pretty unbelievable time. An unbelievable situation. Anyone that had you correctly note, I have never noticed and seen in my life in this spring-loaded really mean something when the Atty. Gen. of the United States says that another words they were set at the touch of a of a finger on the trigger to blow away the President both in his campaign in afterward and one wonders, one wonders what role Judge Sullivan has in all of this is the part of the spring loading. I wondered because it's just routine. I have filed motions to dismiss criminal pleas on behalf of the government and defendants in cases in which we found there was no evidence or was improper and the judge simply several of the government doesn't want to prosecute then I'm not going to force the government to prosecute the motion is granted. Judge Sullivan goes and hires a lawyer becomes part of the case and opposes the issuance of the writ of mandamus. What are you doing your part of the case. Now you say that you impartially can rule on the general Flynn's motion.

There's no way that that is possibly possible, and in this scenario or judge Flynn were you part of this entire thing. Remember Clinton appointee does not like the President is he perhaps part of this. Time will tell. The irony of all this courses you have right now. We got the judge Flynn, the general Flynn case we argued on Friday you got Bill Barr making very clear statement that what took place involving the whole rush investigation was spring-loaded in this and describe spring-loaded. That means it was ready to go at the trigger and then plan at the same time were about to see and unloading of subpoenas from the Senate Judiciary Committee yes can happen on Thursday.

Jason really something every day this week, a major, major pieces can come out on this and like I think one of the most important things here today Jay is to tie with the Atty. Gen. is saying to evidence that we arty have a distribute to comments. First, when you when he says sort of spring-loaded at the end of July to me J that is a direct evidence to that July 31 memo that Peter Strock authored his name is on it four times, I'm holding it right here opening crossfire hurricane. Remember, he's the same individual that had an insurance plan also told Lisa page that working to stop it, and gives him an organist.Donald Trump been elected.

That's what the Atty. Gen. is referring to there and then after the election. J we talked about ignoring exculpatory evidence.

That's the January 4 memo by the same individual, Peter Strock, ignoring the advice of the field office to close crossfire hurricane. So the Atty. Gen. is putting the puzzle pieces together here in one of our friends Jordan and a friend of yours and mine in front of the ACLJ. Rupp, former US attorney inside assisting us to turn himself a telegram sent me this because people forget this. He says it should be forgotten that Pres. Obama picked James coming 2013 after giving Bob Muller two extra years as FBI director.

So then the investigation involving the President and involving call me in that case is conducted by who Bob Muller if you cannot make any of this up now is worse and worse and worse. What people listen to Atty. Gen. bar in his own words. Despite number five to Fox news yesterday will be more of this to tonight on Fox news be sharing more about this picklist by five placing to ignored all the exculpatory evidence that was building up and continue pell-mell to push it forward. It's very hard to understand why they continued to push and even make public testimony that they had an investigation going when it was becoming painfully obvious or should have been obvious to anyone that there was nothing there obvious to anyone there was nothing there any dad that it just says so much that it makes the FBI look so bad except for the fact that what we do know that was it that the regular ages at the FBI. Not that there always perfectly think that they wanted to close this case a long time ago they said there's nothing thereby inflated and it ended. They took the bike Flynn case that they said there was nothing there. On the seventh floor of the FBI turned crossfire razor into crossfire hurricane targeting the President and his campaign all on the basis of nothing that will end up so so I think disheartening for people who want to have at least some faith that are major government institutions, especially the do intelligence and law enforcement do things for the right reason and tries hard to get it right, why think look at the fact the matter is this, and I think this is true that if you look at where we are now what we know now is what Rod Rosenstein said if he knew now we what he knows now he knew would then you would never sign the Pfizer war. Now that may be self-justification makes a very real point I made in the real point is you've reached a point in the process were from the beginning to the end this thing was corrupt and then we have all the between so fortunately John terms to get to the bottom of this and I think that's can be good for the American people expect that to be sooner rather than later, but let's be clear and he did the fact of the matter is we live this three-year investigation and Bill Barr is right when he said, but when you're talking about. It was trigger red.

Let's reiterate for everybody.

What that really means is I think it's important that people understand when you say spring-loaded.

That means that you got a slender read on the trigger and all you've got to do is just lightly touching and off the gun goes and sprays all the bullets of the ammunition all over the place. In other words, this was not anything that was going to be done in a studious way in a methodical way based on evidence, but I mean they were ready to go at those at the pull of the trigger.

They were ready to use the most lightest touch on the gun in order to aim and get the presently United States both jumped at the candidate and after he had been elected and that's despite the fact that you just said that the FBI field office that was actually in charge of the Flynn investigation said no violations of law go there because they did a full investigation. There was nothing there, nothing to move forward with. And yet Peter Strock ignored that took it as he said the seventh floor wanted to keep going.

It actually expanded.

Now we know the expansion was crossfire razor crossfire hurting others.

Other big news right now Atty. Gen. bar we got calls, get about someone to play this comment on this as well with with Brett there. This is the idea of this whole default. The police movement that's going on across the country that he had asked about it.

Assisted by eight today, the police chief, the rank-and-file officers understand the need for change and there has been great and I think that defunding the police holding the entire police structure responsible for the actions of certain officers is it's dangerous to demonize police this is that you get out Joe Biden's come out and oppose this move. The Minneapolis city Council is moving forward right now to defraud the police on me. I think again this is a going to be an interesting political topic is Joe Biden.

They had. He wants this vote. All he wants this vote so bad but if you won't go this far, which I think even he is indicating he won't this vote may just not show up Jordan. What a schism inside the Democrat party wanted a vitamin E of Joe Biden Nancy Pelosi Joe mansion coming out against this at Jordan Joe mansion called it stupid, crazy, and people that support this nuts but Jordan Alexandria Cossey architect Anil Hano, Mark. They are for this and that's where the energy is inside Joe Biden's base to look how is he gonna square that circle. I'm not quite sure he's gonna be able to figure if I'm to be honest with you right folks, we come back, ready to take your phone calls. Lotta calls come again. We got one line open, though, so if you want your question. Your comment on all this, one 800 684 31 table play Joe Biden sent out defunding the police, one 800 684 30 want to deflate judge using a port Friday with got this new information sound for Bill Barr on the entire origins of the rush investigation. The really just a complete farce that was spring-loaded regardless of what evidence they had were to be taking your calls and your comments. One 800 684 30 want to. That's 1-800-684-3110 will be right back on Jay Sekulow life. Only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable and is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally support the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later, when Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times.

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It certainly been discussed around the country. Some people think it's just like me just totally absurd to defraud, abolish the police but it's getting some traction in cities like Minneapolis with the Roberts called Marilyn online what Robert research to see some of the major party candidates outside a Pres. Trump waited supporters to like Bertie Sanders said that he thinks a beat up.dat police. So baby that upsets his liberal base to but Robert you're on the air Jordan W believed that the culprit defunding the police department in abolishing the police department is originating within the Democratic Party itself as well as in group sex for example is black.

Last matter and people follow question good at it.

I want to ask about the beaks believe that antique and black last matter also serve as occult paramilitary off the Democratic Party, much as the Ku Klux Klan have take a stab at it first and then let Jordan go. I as it relates to the whole defunding of the police. I think that this was black lives matter and probably NT for because the Democratic Party seems to be running away from it really as quick as they can try to get away from this really quickly so I don't think you have a situation where this was their idea because their leading candidates and even Bernie Sanders would you think would be more sympathetic to their view, saying add this is not a very good idea. So number one number two look. I think a people not so much blacklight matters, but I think NT but is we know there an anarchist group. Jordan so they engage in anarchic. This would certainly be bring anarchy if you place get rid of the police. You can have anarchy because you can have vigilante justice.

And that's what I think the black ice matter particles are because they been talking about having these community groups that do the policing instead of actual police sounds to be again a little bit like like Black Panthers that that does not turn out well for everyone. Because the site pick and choose who gets justice who gets treated well. Instead of a police force which is supposed to treat everyone equally. Does it always do that now, but it's mission is to treat everyone equally and out if there's mechanisms to fix those problems.

So I keep hearing these community groups like vigilante groups replacing the police.

I think the problem is that the Black Panthers post that even sorts of ideas what it became. Well, I think it river the guardian angels back in the 80s. They were for the police were overwhelms of the guardian angels came in to try to assist that with the rights yet during the rights and here's the thing though. I think this is important for people to understand. I really want to defer to Andy on this so what happened in the last two weeks was America's conscience was shaken once again and it was shaken once again because we saw situation where an individual was murdered in broad daylight by a police officer who choked the guide to death by putting his knee. Mr. Floyd on his Mr. Floyd's neck and killed him. So there is no excuse for that there is no we just need some additional training. Hey, this is bad actor. Now there are bad actors in every group in every department, but there are way to go after bad actors.

It does not justify what happened him and I understand why the people on the streets protesting. I completely 100% get back I courts condemned the violence that looks like it's subsided significantly, but any there's a way to handle that situation and that is prosecute the author, but really prosecute them, which is what's happening here while I agree. That is the solution to the problem of the outrageous and unlawful use of excessive force in effecting an arrest. During interrogation, or any other kind of policing is you take those officers and you will either. First of all, you train them so that they don't act in that fashion.

But if you get a renegade or you get a road like this one, obviously was done no one to the lead up, you prosecute them for whatever the crime may be, in this case I think it's a species of murder in Minnesota called second-degree murder because there was no malice here, but you prosecute them and you imprison them and you get rid of them from the police force, but you don't. At the same time throw away the entire police force and have a police close community in the hope that that is going to solve the problem that is going to exacerbate the problem is to make it worse because then everybody is on his own to secure himself or herself by getting their own vigilantes and police forces to stand outside their house and when there is a robbery. Who do you call you gonna call your own guy to come in and save you. That's not the way that America works. That's not the way that any civilized society works.

Let me ask you this, and that is what we find is that it was replayed at the moment but what did what his reaction on Capitol Hill right now I'm what you hearing. There's a real divide Jannine sound like Joe Biden and Speaker Pelosi are trying to tamp down this idea of disbanding defunding police departments and I think maybe that's a political motive. There J because of the couple layers behind the building. Speaker Pelosi introduced if they were after a policy improvement policy reform J there's actually not a whole lot of daylight between Republicans and Democrats on the hill on this are cracking down on certain tactics. I think that would be something that would be debated but but if the goal is anarchy.

J then a proposal for eliminating the police department would be a terrific place to start. And by the way, there are members inside the Democratic Party. I mentioned this before but AOC and Al Hayat Omar are for that day so I think you have to ask the groups that are advocating for this are you after policy reform because if you are this is a moment you can bring both party and parties in and you can accomplish that. But if you're after anarchy.

You don't want the bill to Speaker Pelosi just introduced you want to incite what you saw in Minneapolis in which are seen in New York and you want to see community-based overflow overthrow of police departments in J, I will just tell you the left in Washington DC is pretty equally divided between us to camp Jordan has played out politically, and I think this is how Joe by let's take Alyssa's house tried to say it by 20 oh blacklight is not our poll told Street just outside the White House.

Some demonstrators calls defined the police do you support finding a place.

No, I don't support defunding police by support conditioning, federal aid to police based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency are anonymous and in fact are able to demonstrate they can protect the community everybody in the so he's trying to I think have it both ways. He's not outright say defunded 100% what he saying is condition.

The eight now what does that look like you could say that it sounds nice that could be very extreme that could beat it very difficult for police departments to beat. It could be kind of just word service to this community. That's what we don't know yet. That's where Joe by the stock right now Joe by doesn't have very many plans that that's his biggest issue when he talks, sometimes even there when he said, somewhat coherent, you realize there's not much there. Behind that there's that that would take a Lotta flushing out to get to an actual policy position and I think you still try to figure out where that policy should be just bugs before the general election. I think you're correct about that during Ashley think there's another layer to it as well.

I mean if you make it socially unacceptable or socially difficult for good people to enter law enforcement what you accomplished your new accomplish the same exact thing without actually having to pass the policy that defines the police department and what Joe Biden said there if you're a good person and want to make a difference in the community and the community is screaming that they don't want you are, you can enter the force I think probably not. I think a bunch of BS that follow-up question that this is this is a huge issue. It's good to be a part of the care paid whether not they both say defunded.

What is that look like it looks. I think very differently.

Joe Biden that it does to Donald Trump that both talk about reforming what is that mean I think you look very different. Talk to both of the here for both you get a flush that out, but Joe Biden is really the one who's got the most to lose you totally loses this new protest vote, you have a tough time energizing a new base help and try get over the edge. Take your calls 164 3110 a lot to talk about lots issues will be right back for decades. ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular. Usually, Joe Biden's daily with his party. People like that. We have plates out from her lately it's been so radical, but now are fairly radical comets of gating sub Steve in her own community in Minneapolis where the city councils moving forward with disbanding your or again divesting for Robert getting rid of the police take a listen to her this is that a rally yes just yesterday Congresswoman a lot. Omar might want like this is someone who fled to Somalia with complete anarchy to comfort and their active police that you can't trust the corrupt governments he come to America now become to American yes there was a bad incident your city. Her widgets condemned worldwide today by every side of the political persuasion, but your your response to someone who fled Mogadishu and fled Somalia is let's get of all rid of all law enforcement in the just figured out as accounts we dead, they will see how your staff rejects them from pulling up exactly because again favorite word disinvest so divest sanction boycott.

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It's about the police department and it's not the main candidates are going to say no but there is a sizable portion of the Democratic base that thinks this is okay. Let me tell you how ridiculous this is illicit work in order to come up with something to replace it with all community patrols may be or store voluntary patrols of citizen's neighborhood. What no arrest authority. By the way how Zach and it happened when you have a domestic violence situation or juvenile that's in distress or a robbery that's going on in Minneapolis or someplace else. So, for everyone that's posting all these statements on Facebook and others think about what that alternative is no one's really showed me. Andy what the alternatives going to be to aid Police Department HB well-trained police department needs to be an accountable Police Department. What is the actual alternative here. We've had constables Sheriff's gyre reaps is what they were in Britain we've had them for literally hundreds and hundreds of years whets the replacement is not to be the military know it can be the military because the law prohibits the military from enforcing the civil and criminal laws in jurisdictions it's going to be anarchy J it's one of the first thing you do in the domestic relations call and I've handled a lot of domestic relations assault and aggravated assault, sexual assault rate cases of the think the first thing that one of the people who is involved is called 911. That's the police. By the way, it's not a vigilante group. It's not a bunch of people standing around outside community helpers who have no arrest powers get the police over here immediately help stop reduces the situation that is going on and let's restore order. So that's where you go to when she talks about we can get around around rid of that cancer and we allow, listen to this childish nonsense.

We allow for something beautiful to arise. What are you talking about what a foolish ignorant woman to make a statement like that we allow something beautiful to arise such as what you anarchy anarchy of the streets structured you have groups see if groups thought minorities will be protected. Of course they think they're now in the majority people like you.

I know Mark still be imposed. There will on others. You point out the fact that what happens when there's a violent crime, but I was with. There's a crime involving God's people losing their lives.

Domestic abuse, child abuse, rate me the list goes on.

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He is more of that interview will play some played last night will play tonight on Fox news with Brett Baer about the origins of the rush investigation just how off-base it was lacking evidence.using the exculpatory evidence that they were basically against spring-loaded to drive it there and investigate the trump Paid so will have even more of that in his comments on that tomorrow.

He said quote. It became painfully obvious. There was little basis for any of this investigation included of course when he got to bike fluids case but don't start taking peoples because what hundred 684 31 two that's what hundred 684-3110 let's start with Chris in Nevada. This is important call because Judge Sullivan in the Flynn case will find himself in court on Friday, the Circuit Court in DC will be represented by counsel. So I get a very unique situation. Chris you're on the air. I think you will carry down the stairway to get Sullivan and wouldn't that cause him to recuse himself.

That's a great question because one of the issues that we have here and it's it's a big one is you have the judge is supposed to be the neutral arbitrator. The judge not supposed to be there prosecutor than not supposed to be that of the plaintiff or the defendant. They are supposed to be the neutral arbitrator.

What happens here when the judgment was becomes like a party which is pretty much here I asked this question, Andy.

How does the district of Columbia Court of Appeals, a very prestigious Court of Appeals not say at a minimum motion should be granted and the judge should be recused. Sullivan cannot serve as the judge of this case he should know you asking know and the work should be entered yeah the grow collar has a real innovative idea if you're going to be a party to the case and maybe you ought to have discovery.

Let's take your deposition and let's ask you some questions about what would precipitated your action and not vacating the plate that's a very good and innovative idea and he would make a very good lawyer coming up with some very interesting concepts, but I don't think that's going to happen what's going to happen is as exactly as you say that the District Court will say the plea is to be vacated and you are to be recused because you have expressed your opinion, notwithstanding all your contrary protestations you have already reached an opinion with respect to the motion in this case and you ought not to ban Sullivan should know this himself. Having been a judge since Clinton appointed you should not be the judge adjudicating the motion. So it's either recusal or without recusal by granting the motion and letting the mandated issue on quest was to write back to Psalms 100 684 31 two that's what hundred 64 3110 Max called Texas online three max welcome to Jay Sekulow live. You're on the air. Hello question regarding plan carries regarding why the original John judge controllers was used from the kite. I've ran on time. I've read some articles and it and I've never have really gotten no real tentative answer regarding why he was refused and it so he recused himself. He recused himself, in part because he was neighbors.

I believe with Peter struck the agent that was engaged in the Flynn investigation.

So at that point it would've been inappropriate for the judge to maintain a bearing on the case and continue the case. He also served as the right thing. Also serves the Pfizer court judges.

It may in fact we don't know because the way the Pfizer process was secretive being fact of dealt with Michael fluids Pfizer warrant that applications the things that that so I think he did the right thing early early on and remember Peter Shockey text message was bragging about his relationship with this judge this judge did the right thing got out of this case, they were left with Judge Sullivan. Things are going along it out judge so this created one of Andy I'd say the most unique and bizarre legal. This would be great for Law schools one day to put this fact pattern together into an exam that people forget Hayward what what happens next. You know the judge at some private counsel, Eddie appoints his friend whoever gets that you deftly get an A+ bar examination question neurological question what you do when the judge doesn't want to rule on the motion, so he brings his friend and is already prejudiced himself about expressing an opinion, Judge Gleason and he says you help me work this out and in the Court of Appeal says I will you what you doing Judge Sullivan and he says oh my God, I've got to make a ruling. I gotta make a decision. I gotta go get a lawyer and he goes and brings in a criminal defense lawyer well known in Washington DC. What about jumbled mess. This is definitely something that the bar examiners would be very interested in law students trying to sort out now. However, it falls to the DC circuit to make that sort out those 100-684-3110. I think this is a call to because you we got different kinds of police departments. What policing the part of the Sheriff's Department specifically mentioned in the Constitution of Marsha admit Mississippi has a question about that. I'd like to call for County lot. Think about this painting equally thing about County Sheriff's Department. I think it's going to have to carry the load by themselves away to question because dad this. This is the city Council moves would affect the constitutional provision that requires counties to elect Sheriff's in its article 9 of the Constitution itself that does put a C question. How much of that load with it.

If Minneapolis was to before. This way would follow the Sheriff's Department that they would not have the ability to do this for the entire county, and in some communities city Sheriff. Yet in some communities the sheriff is actually serving that a lot of the same exact functions as the police department. I say that because in the in rural counties. You will seek to share it with a knowing of the police department. They will have a Sheriff playing that role. Sheriff also play a critical role in skin school safety which one the school resource officers felt to put this Burnell on the Sheriff's I think would be predictable. But you're right, we have a provision in the Constitution that talks about Sheriff. We don't have one that talks about police because in the founding, the sheriff was the law enforcement so they cannot disband they could try.

It's going to go nowhere. Though none of this goes anywhere I want people to understand this even in Minneapolis at the end of the day they will have to have a Police Department mark my word. There is no way they could do this without a Police Department impossible. I wonder if some of this is a move to get around police.

You did say that they could get new leadership in their maybe read a bit but still have a Police Department and the resources of course. I think if ill had Omar had her way, what would blossom out of that routing brought of the Minneapolis, the police are private sharia law SU glove that had we capture reinforcement going on in certain neighborhoods of Minneapolis, but that they said that the I tend to agree with you that that this some of this is politics is going on behind the seeds as well a 164 3110 continue to do phone calls coveted organ continue take calls as well and got another say becoming epileptic city skull. She said Minnesota online wide city welcome to Jay Sekulow life.

Good morning, and regarding that charter. Part of that charter to become a pity that they have to provide for a Police Department. Usually that's the case of a law that somehow the basic responsibility of local government is law enforcement up what's called public safety, and I think that's what the wide some of these highly charged statements being made by people like Iliana Omar and others. Some of the organizers, some of the marches are not thinking through what that Ms. could imagine Los Angeles without a Police Department. Think about this for moment Chicago with no Police Department Manhattan, no NYPD. I just want you to think about that for a moment and what you put in its place.

Workers and community organizers.

That's I can work out too well now they'll be quick go to you on this.

Is there anything in these proposed bills coming out of the house that look at any of these issues at all. And that's the irony Jay. Just a minute ago you said it's not going to go anywhere you want proof of that. This new bill that Speaker Pelosi just rolled out called justice and policing act J doesn't do any of it. I mean it talks about banning chokehold and lowering qualified immunity in creating a national database for police officers that I have done I have had misdeeds about Jaden.

Nothing about disbanding the police a so I think that's the proof of what you're saying. Are there. The other thing that's interesting JP play that out for all the cities you talk about you know what they have to do more often they have to call in those evil federal law enforcement agencies, the National Guard, FBI, ATF, ice, how is that going to play in a city like ICG with no Police Department; the feds doesn't get this it's it's it's it's not going to refocus the final segment, not restart any questions you have any phone calls you have again 1-800-684-3110. If you watch a Facebook periscope share this broadcast with your friends and family thousand people are watching the broadcast that way. It's a great way to share with friends and family specially some people cross country still facing 14 still not able to get back to work. To do that. Sheriff Facebook periscope. It is always weaker to be part of the broadcast. Call us at 1-800-684-3110. You still have time be part of our final segment. Stay up-to-date with what were doing NACLJ.org only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life.

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So we've looked at what it would actually take for this to happen so the mayor and the Council they have to follow their charter.

Their charter requires the establishment of a police force and fighting for now the mayor has the ability to create the police but would have the budget for the police without the Council see if that both so the city manager said for defunding to actually happening.

The Minneapolis city charter would have to be changed. There's two ways to do that a proposed amendment would need a unanimous approval by councilmembers and the bear will they don't have that because only died of the 15 members of the city Council support the defrauding or it could be put on the ballot for a vote in the next election, the clocks ready for that for that for November because you have to be approved to be on the ballot no later than mid July to be on the ballot by mid November, and the charter stipulates for Minneapolis that takes 51% of the vote to pass so that's how you would actually get disbanded. The police specific to Minneapolis. By the way, were talking about.

It's a much more complicated process. The quickest process would be as if you had unanimous support of the city Council and from the bear don't have that they have majority so is that we they could get probably a bad something of the ballot they have to take action within a bath and did see how the voters actually vote would take your phone calls what he hundred 64, 31 to that's what hundred 6843 what what zeros go to Andy in Florida online five 6080.

Welcome to Jay Sekulow live your there wild idea. One of the police just to show how important they are one. They just go on strike and show the year you wanted to find us want anarchy.

Go now see what happens. Look, I think that would be terrible for the communities. Be honest, I think this is this is a very serious thing. And while you can. You know the unions to try to I don't think they would do that because you're putting so many people in harm's way.

Meanwhile, we just played and I I know we don't bombing of the clip for radio audience. But there was an interview on CNN between Allison Cammarata and one of the organizers and housing, Rhonda said what if someone tried to break in my house.

Will I do and the woman's answer was the organizer's answer was. While I understand. I thought about that but that's part of privilege you have a print you've only been able to get help help because you have the privilege. This is ridiculous because let me tell you something in every community there active police issues with the police were involved in investigations and preventative management measures and Andy we do need anybody that's a bad apple needs to be fully prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I don't think anybody questions it.

But the idea that there could be no police and I got a question for Bantu is devastating.

Well, I can imagine it, so all is not to have law enforcement officers � find it very interesting and you going to the list of the cities in which the beef on the police has gained momentum Los Angeles, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, Nashville, one party controls those cities. I believe if I'm not mistaken it's the Democrats who do so. Let's look at then how are they going to run away from an issue that their riotous basis, screaming and wanting to put into implementation know that's not the answer. The answer is a vigorous prosecution of the bad apples and leading them out not doing away with law enforcement. We've never been without a police force.

We need a police force, but we need one that is competent responsible and knows the rules right so's 160 question for Santana is an immediate threat to the eighth and so you know I think about the law enforcement that we have been in Washington right we we are Capitol Hill police Supreme Court police Metro police Secret Service. I mean it's a full panoply of police supported protection, which is a great thing.

So if this means no traction within the Democratic Party just kinda dies out, which may be the political consequence of this, what it what was the whole purpose. It was a surreal discussion or was this just political grandstanding I think was political grandstanding. The reason for that is J if there were if they were after reforms there would have been a discussion between the parties before this bill was rolled out so that they would have any chance of enactment what you said earlier it's going absolutely nowhere is 100% true, and I would just tell you the Jack think there's a parallel between was happening in Minneapolis and what's happening right now in the Joe Biden campaign because leading means telling you what the alternative is and looked at the duty inside of the Minneapolis city Council to secure the community would remain.

If they abolish the police but they have not come up with a plan with what would replace it and that's the same thing on the federal level, whether Joe Biden or Speaker Pelosi. If there is defunding across the nation of local police will enforcement what law enforcement is can it take the place all we've heard is a statement that a beautiful thing will rise J it is the duty of the leader, the person proposing it to tell you what that beautiful thing is you have to weigh what you have against what would be replacing it. And at this point you haven't seen anything on either of these levels about what that alternative is here.

We talked about yesterday what it was like in Montr�al was a Harvard professor wrote his example with the Montr�al Police Department went on strike and have helped scary. It was how dangerous it was dangerous it wasn't that this idea because we had colorants, what about a strike people's lives to be a risk was a temporary strike that there be serious crimes committed people, bad people that would take advantage of the situation.

Regular kind of incidents. Remember enough today builds his cause police police show up if there's fire department seated police show up to secure the seat as well. Sometimes if there's cause for them to be there as well. Let me take final call the data if you flitted question two. Since this is coming up on Friday with us at the subpoenas. It could be issued later this week as well. Fill in Maryland on light to fill final call the day you're on their way through a lot in the court to the court a drug dealer but had to read money so you cannot go to court and claim theft and that if the powers that be bring to the FISA court dirty hands with a dossier that they know challenge board not not been accurate. Duration such as this with the private court situation, we evidence we call it the poisonous tree.dirty hands as you not filing to get something like drug money that you don't have a right to you because it's illegal to have it simulated Trieste fruit of the poisonous tree was so interesting here and you go to you on this, but it was so interesting. It is called the doctrine the part of the poisonous tree gelato. There was no fruit tree nothing.

Andy. It was cursed by Jesus and never bore fruit again coming back to life again from the Bible and the Lord Rod Rosenstein it through the intercessions of our great Abraham Lincoln, Robert Moeller of James Comey is the resurrection of things that don't exist. That the nonsense of this there is no poisonous tree because there is no fruit. The fruit is brought really is. And these things should be stopped and the court should punish these people who brought these confirmations and in these lies and falls before you. There's a lot to watch this week so with Judge Sullivan that you think about the days how much the face of the country on a daily basis sometimes be hard to top break also cover stories that might not be getting as much attention as they should see what the bar says today on Fox's as well have that for you tomorrow to cut ACLJ.org ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ