A Weekend of Turmoil for the United States

Jay Sekulow live a weekend of turmoil in America, spilling over into the work week for Mayor Rudy Giuliani America slot Washington DC questions right now. one 806 843-110-1800 68412, and now your holes below Jay Sekulow Liber to your phone calls Congress, 164, 31 to buy Mayor Giuliani. The next segment of the broadcast to comment on what is happening across the country and in his own city, New York but if you are were near any kind of city and it did not have to be the capital or major city. Even a population wise, you start to see these rights of start occurring across the country that spurred on by agitators from groups like MT find others at that turn from peaceful protest during the day into sometimes where was entirely different group of people who would start showing up as the sun began to set in cities across the country and sometimes it didn't even take that at first it took kind of darkness to fall before violence began and conflict began eluding began. It also was pretty focused in on Friday the rear of the broadcast started you happening in differences across the country was reset at me America was on fire. At that point from coast-to-coast and now it's from city to city and it in any kind away to me that would take your phone calls 100 684 31 two that's 100 684311 as your my data be joining us as well. The broadcast but it is been a different time is been at a different time, the country, because I think this is this is certainly not it's crossed over what is happened into kind of does it matter where you live is probably happy summer with even if you're in more rural areas. It's not too far away from you and there been threats to say were to take this to the suburbs. In some cases much smaller towns, the Kennedys hubs of where the news is focused in a chemical should the White House almost looked like it was good to be overrun and and so this is very dangerous situation are happy across the country at a time when cities I think. Again these protesters. As I said on Friday broadcast and a and my dad is joining us as well.

They had empty streets are empty empty streets empty cities where basically, they look like there was no one in New York if you saw the images related covert date did you do realize there are a lot of people because people are still stuck in their their apartment stuck in homes and while they were there. Was it you were to go.

You could see these kind of movement start on in an instant and started all across the country, so it didn't really matter what kind of city you are and if you were in a kind of city area. This began at least in so dad this is the it's a time a lot of folks who who may not remember the civil rights with things like that. At that this is taken a very different tone with the way the media is able to cover it and also the way protesters are able to communicate. So everything is changed since the 1960s or 70s. It even in the last 10 years without throwing the look I have defended free speech protest before the Supreme Court of United States. I have defended as you know, civil disobedience, where people go on private property, but I've never defended nor would I defend the intentional destruction of personal property which is exactly what's happening there for this is not within when you see the people on the streets, holding signs and banners and chanting that's free speech.

When you see people taking bricks for Molotov cocktails and destroying buildings.

That's called a crime and I think we have to be really clear as to what we're dealing with here that is criminal activity. Now that death by the police officer is inexcusable will get into his day in court which is looking at the evidence, it looks like murder one to me. But I will tell you this, the protest are fine when their civil when they become violent. That's not protected by the First Amendment will talk about that the former mayor of New York, coming right up my folks and we are to your comments are your thoughts on this. Again it's it's not a comment about the polices action. What happened in Minneapolis is been widely condemned from everybody's looked at from different very different perspective widely condemned is wrong and there should be a conversation about that with the with the peaceful protests. Instead, we talked about riots in May him across America. The challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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I just did for Mike. My point of view in the city I meant was on fire on Saturday night.

It is not a city is not a Washington DC that we obviously we have offices there, and again, but it's not a place where he has a ton of protest.

That's probably how you kind of feel in most your towns, even capitals, if they are there been pretty small seas were Artie much larger thing that was fine. There still that still civil disobedience. As I knows that he's had to defend people like the situation because if you are the right permits Easter walking that marching on the road. It doesn't matter if there's a lot of traffic and not a lot of traffic. You've Artie started violating laws, but we have a history of of kind of tolerating civil disobedience or country. That's one point but I told my wife what I was watching said this is the same people who were in Athens, Greece. We were there about six years ago on working and end with, and we were in meetings with government officials. There member they were dealing with a situations are still dealing with a grace where there's a complete economic shutdown and the risk there is an economic recession. Same kind of unemployment numbers were dealing with and those protest were there teargas was something often in places like Athens, the capital, there's a lot of that graffiti is international debt that's that that's the point. Also, this is not just a domestic group. This is international know it is and as I said as we condemned the murder and that's what it sure looks like of Mr. Floyd and there's no getting around that to me about this at the offices will have their day in court, but my goodness it looks that looks clear and as you said, I depended civil disobedience.

I defended up protest. I defended him in New York.

But I'll tell you this much.

I'm not the kind of people throwing Molotov cocktails or for that matter. Taking a situation where they are intentionally destroying property, we are joined by a very good friend and colleague of mine, the former mayor of New York City Americas Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Mr. Mayor, thanks for being with us. Let me let me go to you on this because you and I have both dealt with over our many years of practicing law situations that sometimes reach what I would call a tipping point goes from a civil disobedience or even from a you know that up protest to violence and that takes on a whole different aspect. When that happens, that apparently What your thoughts, Mayor Jake when I ran for mayor of New York City. The second time I got elected city with such disorder had been killed. Major riots in three years and one of them is one of them in Crown Heights. One of them in Crown Heights and the other than Washington night and I was determined when Mark and I have a lot one of the Polo grounds in which they get beat of Jewish people and it was a great report written for government than Cuomo about how to stop riots and what it should be in the riot. Then they are giving the rioters venting time so the first night you know they burned a few buildings. Let's not do any arrests. The second night they started beating people up more buildings all the get old.

The third night they had outsiders coming in and they will burning down, each and finally on the fourth night a very brave police officer named Luana multiple and almost against the mayor's ordered blood in the police. They ended so here's the rule that I small quality constantly and never had a right I say to people when they were getting ready for all protect the right to peacefully protest, but whatever.

Right after the Dominican throw a rock. Many scratchy part. The minute you spend at least the minute you violate the law. The first one not the last one to get arrested and then the second mark and then the third 141 I got 35,000 cops got a lot of islands are empty around that and am on the functional one time I arrested 700 people that were attempting to take the bridge and no one ever took the Brooklyn Bridge again so it brings up this questionnaire and this is when I'm trying to really get a sense of from you. It seems like when there was a show of force without police brutality when talking with them to show up significantly. For instance in front of Washington. Washington quieted up pretty quickly. I was still laughing as though protest and those are constitutionally protected but as far as the actual engagement of protesters and violence. Once there was a significant show forth that looked like it stopped. It only does I spent some time yesterday day before the daytime kind of gliding to the areas of New York that had the most problems. The Berkeley Center Union Park took pictures of people is not the rioters that we had 24 per capita not poor black people are likely all of them are at least they appear to be student type lower middle-class middle-class kids, white and black could be as many whites as Blacks by the light. In some cases kids don't want to get arrested. They don't want to get put in a paddy wagon which will be cold in the art and taken to court in jail overnight right now that I got of child pushing it.

As far as a Canada getting away with it. Probably the worst thing that happened that made this thing really blow the incompetent mayor in Minneapolis giving up a police station once they take the police station. They are really in our mayor. Let me ask you about that one because it's it's the symbolism as well as the act itself. When you take over a control center, which would be a police station correct the symbolism of what they taken & important except symbolism is important to taking the police station having pictures of your police officer running away. I'm at home I'm worried about my house. I think the police are there to protect it. I see them running away you imagine what it does to me right. That's what happened in New Orleans when old very quickly below the place of the so I thought that was a very, very, something which I would govern.

I removed just to find another job that you're not up to defending the lives of other people and by the way they burn the precinct out more I Mayor Jordan has a question for you to go ahead. Cities across the country but it's it's in New York, especially in Manhattan in the boroughs mayor where there's been a shutdown and people are still at an mid deposit was being criticized about that forgetting not being clear to people about when you could open this or what you could open what you could do with your business and when two people are turning our or who could return and how much of that you think plated to the fact that the streets were empty. The fact that you could walk that marched down the street and there wasn't the normal traffic you see in York or any city across the country for that matter, but especially New York to work that the folks would usually be there almost in their own way of filling up the streets of the city. Very good point. Probably there's no way we can really assess it. You know you but we have to know instinctually that it has to played into this on both sides.

You know on the side of the people protesting and in the very strong reaction. The American people having to get a guy like de Blasio for the last four weeks you've been terrorizing the people of New York City with arresting them if they don't, socially distant and I or or they don't have their mascot, and by the way he walks around at a mascot, socially distant, so all of a sudden we now have thousand people on the street for violating the law. Laws socially just isn't this usually recommend that maybe the rest of the social and more comfortable straight unless quizzical running out of time here mayor and that is, these things tend to, as I said I represented free speech protesters.

I represented a civil disobedience, and there's a big difference between that and destruction of property.

There just doesn't seem to be a connection between what they're destroying and the concern over the death of Mr. Floyd, the murderer, Mr. Floyd, there's it's a complete disconnect in my view, I do. I know without even asking Jordan and you. You and I agree that that that that that the shooting of Mr. Floyd was outrageous and legal and diversity prosecute.

I think all of America agrees on that this was a moment moment that could have been used for unity between left and right extremists of all kinds and accepted at some of the little deranged everybody will agree that officer went way beyond what you should and might disagree on the severity of the punishment, but it all great. He committed some kind of action, rarities, police brutality cases that we get that kind of broad agreement and they blow it when it happened. It happened Jay I got about 10 phone calls from the usual suspects.

The pro-choice people and I thought oh my God so what happened I appreciate mayor always appreciate your perspective will get you later in the week. Thank you again and not everybody destroying us. Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a colleague and friend did great work in New York and a great job working with him over the last three years I were taking a break we come back we'll take a call at 800-684-3110 West Smith, Harry Hudson, all joining only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you personally support the publication includes all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right question Frank on mission in life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and are now free to start constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ is on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACL is called 164 3110 2000 684-3110 data to the whole team is connected to a picture to you. I want to go around and speak to everybody here, I want to start with Harry Hutchison, our Dir. of policy I want to get his impressions on this Harry. I know you wouldn't actually we talk before going to marry been studying some of this. Tell me what your your initial reaction is obviously that the actions against Mr. Floyd, the death of Mr. Floyd, the murder of Mr. Floyd, I would go so far as to say, without question, is inexcusable. They will be entitled to a defense.

Every American is there lawyers will put up a defense. But just looking at it, you know, the evidence speaks very loudly.

Let me just say it that way. Having said that, the reaction when it is no regular protest canting signs marching that's typical free speech in the United States. We encourage that and then you got it going when it goes from back to acts of violence that's were not does not condone the United States. It's called criminality, but I wanted to get your sense well. I think your analysis is very very sound. It is clear that an injustice was committed by officer Derek Sullivan in the killing of George Floyd. In addition, it is equally clear that protest are justified by arson, rioting and violence is not justified. Former Pres. Obama suggested that it is up on American to resort to violence in its various forms, even if it represents genuine anger but some of this violence represents mere opportunism individuals that are putting innocent lives at risk. They are destroying the neighborhoods of disenfranchised and relatively poor people who are all ready for services Jay, I lived through one of the riots in Detroit a long time ago.

What happened neighborhoods were devastated. The ability of poor people to shop to work those opportunities were destroyed and so I think we have now reached the point where one of the main jobs of elected officials is to the store order as a predicate to peaceful protest and very good work very well said here appreciate that I should write something up like this for our website ACLJ.org. I think that would be a perspective, having lived through one yet to give a perspective that no one else in our team would have and I think that in the form of an article be a really good idea. Let me go to Andy, who is also a formal former US attorney and former district attorney. He understands this. What happened to the police conduct regarding Mr. Floyd, Andy, based on what you seen in everybody's entitled to their corporate my gosh if there was ever an open and shut case by the evidence that looked like it.

So putting that to the forefront which is you had the murder lease alleging I think the real murder of a individual even if it was a fake $20 bill that was passed doesn't justify this the reason you work with police every day and I have a lot of respect for police and prolonged enforcement but there are abuses, and abuse you've dealt with those as a prosecutor you have to deal with the abuse in an agency that tried to not ever justified when there is excessive force utilized in a situation we have here from this video that we saw an obvious case of excessive force over an offense that did not justify basically suffocating a man to death, but the problem that I have is that there is a disconnect between punishing that officer or those officers involved in the Minneapolis incident and what we see in cities like where I am broadcasting from today in Atlanta where there is distraction of black-and-white businesses. The random desecration of shopping centers and malls.

The stealing of computers of designer gowns and dresses just for the purpose of agitating.

There is no connection between that and what happened in Minneapolis and it is not a protest but an opportunity for agitators and third parties who are not from our city, which is been the city of peace. We went through the terrible time of the shot, shooting of ML King in 1968 when there was peace and quiet in Atlanta because the leaders went out and spoke and we didn't have any riots when, if anything, I was justified. It was those many years ago so there is that disconnect we have to be aware of police abuse I've seen. And yes I have for as a prosecutor. It is wrong. It is never justified the use of excessive force, but on the same and by the same token, it is unjustified to have random acts of violence by people in the name of peaceful protest did not hundred percent look I defended as a cinema say it again I defend free speech activity. I've just been. I've attended civil disobedience public when you conduct civil disobedience understand the penalty to pay if you were to block an abortion clinic its trespass. If you were going to destroy property. I don't depend that I don't defend the instruction of anyone's property because that is a different type of criminal act that is not in the view of what Dr. King talked about was civil disobedience. Let me go to Cornel West Smith, who also is a pastor. I believe it was your father was very involved in the civil rights movement in Savannah, Georgia, West yeah and heritage, which I'm really grateful. This is so disturbing day for all people who love our country and we love one another. People have a right to assembly into peaceful protests.

They have a right to free speech. There is no legal or constitutional right to violence. There is no legal right to arson our salt or breaking and entering and working all of those things happen and I think the intensity of the violence in the protest is exacerbated by law enforcement, backing away from protecting life and property, often at the direction of liberal mayors and governors. Note the passive presence of police or the presence of unarmed National Guard soldiers that only encourages the violent no Andy McCarthy for today and in editorial laws do not enforce themselves and looking at what's going on. It is so disturbing, but my belief really at the basic level of most Americans. The divide in our country.

To date with what's going on it's not between black and white. The divide is between civic minded law-abiding citizens and those who are using Mr. Floyd to death to engage in or at least tacitly approved crime and lawlessness and it's just simply should not be so. I agree with what everybody said in Jordan, I think as we go to a break here when you get to take phone calls in a minute but look, you gotta condemn what happened to Mr. Floyd apologetically when that's number two you have to understand that free speech is protected.

Violence and destruction of property is not is that basic within our American constitutional framework that's right and that's what we've been very clear this broadcast yet and I think everybody around the country was clear, police departments, Sheriff's get involved in speaking out across the country as a matter what part of the country admitted what state what city almost unanimous complete condonation and support for even additional charges that Minnesota has a move for you and we got a lot of cut because this is turned from. Unfortunately, not having a national conversation about George Floyd right now. Right now you have a national conversation about whether or not this would be martial law in your neighborhood that's the truth. 164, 31, two 2000 684-3110 what happens when the court says no churches. They should be treated any differently.

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Their income has shrunk in the face of the coronavirus and I also think that many of these policies put enough back by arguably tyrannical governors that have basically disproportionately had an adverse impact on the poor and lower middle class individuals are a contributing factor. But we also have to remember that there are individuals out there like Antiqua who are more than willing to take advantage of this situation. They don't want to allow this crisis. This evidence to go to waste. This specific is what a lot of folks now are focused on.

I believe that's the unfortunate if you had mass rallies across country.

What you saw. Basically during the day Friday and Saturday and and you didn't have the violence at the evening you will see this massive outpouring of folks and whether was encouraged also by the lot that is feeling any kind of sense of community in your community or or connection to other human beings. The people been lacking, and camaraderie.

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By the way it started outside the United States before it came here but they been active in some parts the country while she states one of those where they've kind of had bases, and in places like that but everything for hold on your on the air with us. Comment coming more and more organized effort didn't just happen at the ranch had been perpetrated by those who are against government and the American way. I believe that people like global or me.

Maybe even antitheft Mortar certainly antitheft and other becoming really clear and they can have a concerted effort and organized effort to destroy Latin department and every semblance of order.

Andrea, I don't want to cut in unlike knowledge of this moment, but my sons are some Logan was nonbroadcast many times as some broadcast the Logan Sekulow reprogram show said that that they were actually I guess on Craigslist. They were at putting up spots for people to commentate the call of what they're like after some insight I think like a chaos actor and they get paid 20 or $30 to do this so becomes part of it is part of that what what's been the situation in Spokane where you are now going downtown and I don't want them combat.

I know nano and Elaine Idaho which is not really clear it becomes more clear that they make the unwrapped and the horrible killing of an independent transient human being. George Floyd and that terribly wrong. They took advantage again meaning the people everything I just couldn't. I would say a little differently.

I would say that the murder of George Floyd is inexplicable, awful, murder is not just that with everything we sing is actually no justification for II wouldn't I would go a step further on the what happened here in the exploitation of that moment. But any I want to ask you a question and that is you've done investigations of police in your role in its state Atty. Gen. and Dist. Atty. what happens in a situation like this compelling department and I have done investigations. I just finished 1000 order that he earlier this year before the pandemic struck, and what should happen is that there should be and in many instances, there are both internal investigations conducted by the police departments to see exactly why and what the circumstances for the departure from the guidelines for the use of force for today.

In addition, there have been special grand jury is impaneled under state law to look into the acts, practices and transactions of police officers and what they have done and how they have if they have indeed done so departing from the guidelines for the use of excessive force to stop someone for a traffic accident or incident to a stop to a traffic violation. I should say, or simply to talk to them about a nonviolent offense, which is what appears to happen in Minneapolis and then to kill him.

In the process of interrogating him certainly would justify an internal investigation by the police department and maybe even a grand jury and then the pros of the information obtained from that being turned over to the district attorney to make a prosecutorial decision so any Police Department should be looking inwardly, in itself, or have another entity like a grand jury look at them to see exactly who did what and how they departed from the norm carry on the in the clip we play during the break that we saw on our television audience and those watching Facebook periscope or other social media platforms. ACLJ.org. There's a woman who said it was in the minority community, saying they had burnt down the stores that I shot that's where I shop, so you you address that a little bit earlier in the first I want you to restate that again because you experienced it. But the habit that this brings to minority communities. These kind of protest and they said when they go from protest civil protest to acts of violence problem because many of the individuals. Like the individual in the video may indeed need black transportation. They may lack a viable heart that they can use and by consequence is they cannot literally be themselves and so when we went through the riots in Detroit.

My parents they were relatively fortunate to have vehicles. We could go and we could shop in the suburbs.

A large fraction of the metal and upper-middle-class in Detroit, for instance, they simply moved out Detroit and that created a vacuum and that vacuum lead to more violence and then that accelerated the move of individuals out of the city.

So what we are seeing the destruction ultimately of the foundations of a city functioning city and so it goes back to the comment I made earlier about good intentions.

In other words, if you don't crackdown on the violent arson fires early, then this kind of propels more violence, more arson, more destruction later and the people that are most damaged, most heard are those individuals that are already disadvantaged that it is people that are poor people that are often on social assistance are on Medicare, Medicaid, you name it and they do not have viable options and so that is what is so crushing to see is to see the destruction of the communities and in some cases I think in Minneapolis, for instance, they destroyed a low income housing development. Can you imagine the devastation that means for individuals who are looking for housing now in Minneapolis by like we have been to Minneapolis on many occasions it can be a very interesting and wonderful city. But there are huge Slavic Minneapolis that like the population that is hugely disadvantaged, economically disadvantaged, they don't have jobs, and so now what do we say to those individuals where they stock were to buy clothing they buy food and I don't think we have an answer. I am encouraging you to put up your thoughts in a post on ACLJ.org that working to get out to every body through all of our media platforms (think you have a perspective on this.

That's very very important to me before. Take another quality go to West West I want you to offer some hope and solace as a pastor here. If you are preaching from the pulpit this week.

What would you be saying right now you know that God calls us to a different way not only of living bit of thinking and I think I think most Americans embrace that you know Abraham Lincoln talked about our better angels. I think most Americans are attentive to their better angels. But this is the time to pray for our country.

I purposely this morning.

Pray for the family of George Floyd and for all the people suffering from this and here you are so right, you know, for example, Andy and I are both in Atlanta today over 50% of all businesses in metro Atlanta are owned by minorities and is it some of the same businesses that are now being destroyed order having to close down and it is just so unfair, so irrational again as a pastor I grieve over the loss of George Floyd and I pray for for our better angels took to really you know deal with this can overcome this sense of unity that certain groups are promoting in our country and I really think more unified than that, but there are taking advantage of this new Jordan that you had said over the weekend. I think it was really accurate, that this in a sense, became the perfect storm of situations in these businesses just getting back open.

Just getting back on their feet now having this essay. These were some to feel what state what city they ran out a lot of them June 1 was a big day. Summers in the next couple weeks. Others were in mid-May. And so it but across the country. What you see empty streets because it didn't matter if it was Broadway in Nashville or Broadway in New York.

It was basically no one there, so the work did not say number police and you would usually see.

There were large crowds.

There were large events happening, there's no sporting events. There's no concerts as of gatherings is no church in most parts of school so all of the reasons why. Usually there is people. Even the places that are open in the most open cities and states around the country are barely open to where they were so empty streets and there is emptiness. I think in the entire country. A lot of different kinds people that are hungry because the foods that because they don't have the money for food stores were shut down was easy to access was the meals you get at school you got lack of civil society because it can operate the way it was a church can operate the same way it was. They can't help the people the same way they could are told not to be there too many don't gather people together to distribute food. I think were passed that now is a country we just have a lot of people set up and said you know what socialistic that didn't matter.

Right.

So I think we need to start trying to reopen. But now it's become that much more difficult as well. One 800 684 31 to retake the calls take your comments stay updated ACLJ.org only one. A society can agree the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you personally.

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This is called right to take its Linscott Kansas online for an because there's a lot of names being thrown around this weekend.

It depending on what you follow what news your watching her, but also just Lotta terse reports are using to Celinda welcome Jay Sekulow live your on the air very much for taking my call. I really appreciate you guys. I was wondering what and that I've been hearing a lot of that that I don't know what it is. Could you please explain. So it's it's it's kind of short way to say, anti-fascist, but the reason why that that term in chief is been used. It's an international group had a logo since the times when they were actually battling fascism in their resistance group, but now it started to an antigovernment movement so you can walk down the street many years ago in Athens, Greece almost 10 yes 67 years ago when they had an economic fallout in their country and it was huge recession and you'd see that at the present fascist leaders right and has not had any issues like that since since World War II so this same movement though use the term NTP to describe himself black mass. That's it. That's something that you'll see a lot black and red of the colors I saw the signs that in cities across the country and before the fire started.

I said the fires are about the cities are about to burn down.

There's no police on the streets this the Bears had not used the National Guard, yet it was that the African-American protesters in the black community.

Primarily, that's what this was at 90 I think 99.9% white kids and or younger people who are part of this international predominately white movement that is to get you could say. So we are left that it's on its own.

It's so violent it's outside the doors of politics, so it's not like this is a liberal group when they say leftist on TV that talking leftist like communist war fighters soldiers is how they see it's it's that it's the you wish. It is the nonviolent overthrow the government. But it's not it's it's a violent overthrow of the government, but here here's what it is out they went.

NTP is now listed as a domestic terrorist organization and that Andy brings in federal issues that can then be put in play without exactly right Dave, I think the Atty. Gen. bar and did an excellent statement the other day. Yesterday, whenever he said that he was going to put in 56 regional FBI tax force organizations to prosecute terrorist groups such as anti-for now properly labeled a terrorist organization because that's exactly what they are and I think the Atty. Gen. statement was strong and solid, and yet measured and appropriate to the situation that exists. I applaud Atty. Gen. bar for taking that stand and for making that statement with respect to the scientific group and other terrorist organizations, and for now going to implement implement the resources of the FBI and other governmental institutions that are law enforcement agencies designed to prosecute these vandals. That's exactly what they are vandals terrorist people who have come into our society and especially our city here and have burned the city down I saw a sign that says this is a black business and I actually saw a video of someone who despite that sign on the door hurled a break and broke the front window of that establishment and then went into help themselves to merchandise that Harry Harry would you had said earlier and I it's worth repeating again and that is this idea that the impact that this is having on minority communities and minority businesses who have just been struggling with the cobra 19 pandemic which were still in the middle of now having to face this important to keep in mind that NTP is essentially a Marxist anarchist organization and largely propelled by progressives, many of whom are middle and upper middle class but the pain of the burden is proportionately borne by poor people in these communities who cannot get out.

They do not have a middle and upper middle-class jobs they cannot move in many cases to the suburbs but the problem often is so-called progressive leaders as an McCarthy points out laws not enforced themselves and so very important to basically have a coordinated response against many of these radical groups because if you actually enforce the law. You are actually helping the poor and disadvantaged people who cannot. In many cases help themselves. Failure to enforce the law.

Disadvantages the poor at the end of the day and so you have this sad cycle of middle and upper middle-class anarchists who are intent on destroying the society but who are they, ultimately compromising their ultimately compromising the most disadvantaged citizens in the United States that is truly disturbing. It really is a journalist Glenn take Lester calls asking with the California 26, or hold onto my father on the air. Thank you Quentin being when dad are what administration and picketed training our militarily and shouldn't those who practice also be held accountable by because what happened to Mr. Floyd that was utilized way that we are being treated by the police. I know one young man got scared and ran the 19-year-old kid thanked her to the ground and ground to face the pavement and all law and a black guy. Why would I watch that video and I like the first thing I said. Besides, it was obviously horrific in condemning what was that officer thinking in the world was he thinking when he put his of an individual and kill him. Why did he think that was okay because it wasn't it's murder and the idea that that this book, I don't think you can blame this on training you gotta blame this on the individual who did it and he has to be held accountable in a very significant and very real way, and that is good to be the job of the prosecutor's the local prosecutors and the FBI Westwood you and us in prayer.

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