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Twitter “Fact Checks” President Trump

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Jay Sekulow live twitter sign for the first time to present from five months from the present life of Washington DC Jay Sekulow lines are open for your questions right now called 1-800-684-3110 one 800-6841 10 and now your host secular boxes twitter face pressure from liberals, Democrats to somehow begin to warn people about present trumps weeds. They decided that the tweets that they would put these first warning labels on and and put get the facts about mail-in ballots is a legitimate policy dispute so rather than kind of encouraging the free exercise of ideas and I mean you got that present has tweeted all on a whole host of issues, summer policy, some are not. But the way into a legitimate policy dispute that there is a reason why every state doesn't use mail-in ballots. There's a reason why we don't have a fully electronic voting. It is been not been found to be fully secure. It is not been found to be a good fit, especially for the larger state big populations like California, which it takes a much longer time to get there voting roles correct to make sure people are removed from voting. Rosa may have left the state moved out of the state wears a college student, especially now when they don't even know if they're gonna be going to their college campus or are they the re-renting their apartment.

If they're not living on campus anymore and so where is their home to get the ballot and if that's the only option available to folks, you know, what does that costs and it's a legitimate policy discussion. You can come down either side and and but the truth is, when the US government has put together bipartisan groups to look at this issue was bipartisan groups have said as as this is blaze 2005. So following all of all of the election issues that happened in the 2000 election and what was going on there in the hanging Chad all those issues Jimmy Carter and Jim Baker were both on this bipartisan committee and they said the most potential for abuse potential because it's not widely enacted and is not in large that the larger population states the largest center for abuse would be absentee ballots paper ballots that everyone knows her goat going to the mailboxes at a time when the Postal Service isn't even sure if there can be operating in a month at a time and in major delays in in shipping and mail and this doesn't seem like the solution when when it's what we don't even know exactly how dangerous the mail is we don't know how dangerous surfaces are it if I get on Cova 19 and and it just pose a whole host of issues so present. He weighs it with his opinion on on a policy issue that is put into the forefront. Because states are talking about trying to take these actions so he tweets there is no way zero that mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent mailboxes will be robbed.

Ballots will be forged and even illegally printed out and fraudulently signed the governor of California is sitting ballots to millions of people. Anyone living the state no matter who they are, how they got there will get one that we followed up with professionals telling all these people, many of whom have never thought of voting before how, and for whom to vote. This would be a rigged election no way that you see those tweets in the present. You get you'll see this!

Fanon says. Get the facts about mail-in ballots. If you click there.

It takes you to, of all places CNN and it says the Trump not present from. Trump makes unsubstantiated claim that mail-in ballots will lead to voter fraud and thin one reasons unsubstantiated will get into a get back is because this is a widely enacted that we have absentee ballot you to go through a process to get those in other states in a couple of states have done this vote by mail experiment which is fine you know if the if they're following the rules upon the laws it's one thing there's a reason why it has been widely enacted when the most interesting things Jordan is. It is in fact demonstrably true that mail-in ballot ballots are prone to fraud, so if that's not a legitimate policy debate and nothing is and look an executive at twitter Jordan, they're not the ones that should be arbitrating what is true and what is not to give a trigger twitter the compared one adult trumps media advisors to a Nazi challenges facing Americans for substantial time and or value or freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now.

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The present tweets often and is someone again who is not using 25 advisors to figure out every sentence he tweets and if you look at Joe Biden's twitter account. You'll see a lot of the tweets that will come out of that from Joe Biden doesn't seem like anything Job. I would even say is I like quoting him directly.

It's it's like what they would like him to be saying it if he was able to coherently get out his message in a way that was clear and so again, you can decide it's a platform for freedom of speech now. Should Terrace be able to utilize it to recruit no and so twitter will oftentimes look for groups like Isis to try to flag those try to flag those and remove those accounts that are promoting illegal or violent activity.

But if you're talking about a policy debate. This is the bizarre part of this is twitter decides after years of the present when it is a candidate for office before he was present United States and while his present state has been utilizing twitter as a as a platform that all the media outlets they they may go complain about the presence has some of them but the truth is a lot they love the fact that he has the canvas unfiltered way of getting of speaking his mind. They decided to weigh in and start putting your these warning flags flagging is tweets on policy disputes five months before Presidential election, United States of America, and there's so many issues with mail voting mail-in voting right now, especially one of them being that the Postal Service says that the if they don't get a bailout in a month or less in a month. They may be shuttered and now I don't know that that will happen. I think that you know the usually they were things out but that that's the kind of state of of the Postal Service right now. It's a very difficult time and to make matters even tougher. You got Cova 19 that shutdowns got major delays and listen fan at the state and look at state level. This is been done before it and you say states the laboratories but on a very small scale and not not done wreck that the issue hereto. When Wisconsin looked at doing something like this in a short-term unit wasn't something planned out years in advance. It was some they did like right before election. They said now you know the court said no you can't change the rules. Five mind in a in a month before weeks before people actually go and vote. And I think that's the issue hereto is why we changing I be obvious you got respondent crisis sees but retire about November and at most states are reopening even places like California, with most restrictions are starting to allow people to do more things so you would imagine by November. Again, if you want to absentee ballot, you can request it and if you don't feel comfortable going to vote and people know how to do that right you people who not a vote, and it's not hard to find out how to do that. But to me of all the time for twitter to weigh in. This is not could be chilling to the free exercise of ideas and it is it's by far not the most controversial thing this presence tweeted that no doubt about that. Your name and I look. I think there's an agenda be trying to be true behind why they weighed in at this point, look you zoom out a little bit and we are blessed to have one of the best election processes and the Titan in the entire world. The Jordan, there is no serious argument to suggest that there is no fraud that happens there is fraud and it is demonstrably true that mail-in balloting has had a greater propensity for fraud than other forms of balloting and Jordan, as you pointed out, it's especially true when you talk about the larger states you know Utah trying to do a mail-in balloting is very different than California.

Trying to do it and and my view has always been that these decisions are made. The closest best mate closest to the people because you can secure them the best and that's why we've never been for the federal government take over of balloting is Speaker Pelosi has proposed that Jordan for the bottom line here is that this is a legitimate debate because there is legitimate fraud that happens and there should be more discussion, more debate about how to best secure the election. What triggers trying to do here is shut that down there has always been a need for people on both sides to put their ideas out that states can choose the ones with the most merit adjourn if you push this debate behind the curtain.

If you don't allow it to Eric you don't allow the real examples of fraud are to be perpetuated. You know what you get. You get more fraud, no doubt about it, let me play this free and then I'll take a set number four is a wonder if I just sent this tweet out and someone flag didn't send it to twitter. While it's very similar.

So I can get this warning label just for quoting this individual. Take a listen bite for this from 2004 I just is a very experienced practical politician from New York. I feel constrained to observe that in my experience in New York paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud and at least with the old clunky voting machines that we have in New York. The dirt delivered fraud is way down a competitive paper when they when the machines break them live unpaid without real problems here that was you may recognize the voice. Jerry Nadler, Democrat, no fan of the present wasn't from 35 years ago. 40 years ago, some 2004 can have a change of position. I guess, but this is not a technological advance reversal timeout mail mail and in a hard ballots paper ballots and he said there I just a very practical politician, New York. I feel constrained to observe the my experience paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud, so if I tweak that out now is executor get your warning labels. I don't have is many followers present trump, obviously. Maybe again, so they can assert picking and choosing is a certainly you can have a platform like there's and really figure out everything is going on that you might disagree with policy wise to have your pro-life messages that suddenly got to be something again that they can affect check with Washington Post or CNN and by the way, they love to pick and choose when they use Washington Post fact checkers as you go through a lot of things with with Joe Biden to I think this opens up a problem. We can't we let this tech world than for the most part evolve on its own not be burdened with tons of restrictions understand that when you open up these places for free exercise of ideas will have the issues like groups like even Isis trying to exploit that freedom and use it to their advantage and and then note obviously twitter takes action on those.

That's it. Totally different discussion when they are kind of find out about it. Inasmuch as they can kind of stay up to speed with but no one is come down on twitter to say it, it's your fault. And because we understand what happens in the United States in this kind of liberty balance that we do with with security balance damning the idea behind the First Amendment Jordan when it comes to viewpoint determination is that you don't allow a tech company executive, or the Department of Commerce to determine what is the appropriate viewpoint, and it shouldn't matter who is saying it either Jordan and I go back to the example you displayed a from Congressman Jerry Nadler will what if I have the position that voting with paper is the only way to secure the election.

I mean it it it. If one is an illegitimate response than the other one would have to be censored in the same way if you're going to do it and Jordan. It really that there are two things at play here.

One, if they don't like the person who is speaking it tends to get more censorship or if it cuts against the narrative that they're trying to advance in this. This takes me back to the very first question that you started this broadcast off. Why was it. This tweet that they decided to take issue with and Jordan, I think the proximity to the election and the direct impact on the election is what thereafter.

There's a narrative there which is why they decided to intervene at this point this is from the Wall Street Journal April 10 quote absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud wasn't present. Trump is again going to a 2005, bipartisan report of the commission on federal election reform was chaired by former Pres. Jimmy Carter can't quote absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud. Those are paper ballots and those you have to take an additional step you have to go get the file to request one and it's been a reason why different states have different rules and I can go through all 550 but some are easier semis can check the box some summer a little bit more intensive, though none are very difficult. It's not.

It's not hard to get emptied out it in states and if so if you're again you just go to your and now with the Internet it's even easier because you get all the forms online so it's even easier than it used to be. We had to maybe even take the step of going to like the local election board or the County election Board a dependent where you live so we can 164. 31. Tim will start take your calls and come back this break I just there's so much to get into on this specific issue.

There's even a vote buying scheme at that that they say that it's very difficult to detect. And that's what Carson Nadler said as well. It makes it tougher to detect the fraud.

If you have any of these allegations and the they go back they look at the Miami Mayor's race in 1997.there were 36 people arrested for absentee bout fraud. They had the date of rerun the election and the results were different different person on the race so call it causes. If there is a reason why every state has adopted this theirs are especially that the states with larger populations takes time.

If you want to give the states benefit of the doubt think is again another policy issue that voter rolls validated. Those are. You have to wonder how how is this can be correctly insert mailing always ballots out. I was signed and sent them back 1-800-684-3110 at 2000 684-3110, stifling a speech to big tech waiting until elections talk about only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is certainly is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally pro-life battle publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later, and parenthood's role in the motion and what Obama care means to the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to life question for economy mission in life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time with our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ call 2064 3110 different folks who have dealt with the issue of mail in ballots washing state resident Julie Colin on line 3 Julie Wagner Jay Sekulow Lodge on the air for taking my call. I've had a couple of experiences as a Washington American mailing balance for years, we have a government governor that a Democrat because the 750 paper ballots that were found in Seattle right after the accounts were taken in and recently my newest mailing balance actually says 70 outside. It gives me a box to check whether I'm a Democrat, Republican, whatever, and I thought okay that means somebody can look at it it's Republican throw it away just so many issues and I think when you get to begin your certain markings on the outside. You're starting to people can their political bias since a yearly at your oversight asking for it and again this it and brings up those issues to 07, we found 750 and we have very close election. Now if you go back into last election cycle. Present Trump had a big electoral victory revealed the actual states that some of those symbols victories. They were like outside the margin of recount, but they were they were still like with the thousands. You know, so I mean they would come down to you.

Decisions like Hillary Clinton, not campaigning, Wisconsin, and the obvious to the present.

When a lot of states back in that election cycle that have been a longtime's Republicans had been been able to carry and he did it on a very wide swaths of the I'm not sure there's anything she could've done, but there were those kind of issues we start getting to under thousand under 2000 votes and you can imagine how that could be the case in some the states come the cycle and that's when the issue start getting very suspicious and that is why you can look at and see there been 1071 proven cases of voter fraud 938 criminal convictions 43 a civil penalties 74 diversion programs eight judicial five findings eight official findings at this is been a bipartisan issue of agreement is why we have not seen more states follow Washington or Utah because it's harder to secure them Jordan a look and they can absolutely change elections. I know you wrote about specific examples of this in your recent book of a just dating back to a comment that the caller made Jordan one of the regular problems that really every state has is keeping their voter rolls, purge, or whether there are deaths or people moving out of the state or a change of status, whatever it may be making sure that everyone on their voter role is actually eligible to vote in. This is true whether talk about mailing ballots are not the problem with mail-in ballots Jordan is that purging process becomes more difficult to just give you one very generic antidote. I have a neighbor whose mother did was as does been deceased for several years. She continues to receive an absentee ballot that she requested in the last election cycle before she died, even though they have tried repeatedly to get her purged from the roles a Jordan it if if you have a mailing ballot and you receive that ballot in the mail that person doesn't have to be there to fill it out. It makes it makes combating that type of fraud almost impossible because the entire active voting takes place in the privacy of the home, and by the way the state initiated that interaction with the deceased voter. All they have to do is check the box sign the signature and mail it back and that becomes very difficult to combat especially Jordan. If you initiate a process like that in what how much time we have left now five months before the election can be almost impossible to do. I let Silas go back because what hundred 684-3110 let's go to Kathy in Oregon online one Kathy walk the Jay Sekulow live for everything that you get Eupora on an Oregon Gov. Brown personally implemented a new adventure to Oregon MP per think of them to change their address or even renew their life automatically changes their delegation and later on they will receive a postcard in the mall and tell them how to change their affiliation to their choice and parts leave me postcards are not going anywhere.

When people got land to change their information. They are not whole what it can happen or what happening to their about Anselm. Denny did not receive a ballot terms we have not had earned by refilling many people even rethinking many ballot and then we had people that they get a nonresident or Democrat under a Republican ballot and calculate an executive order or noncommitment and to beat the light. Now we have a nonresident alien becoming part of the whistleblower who had received ballot 2015. She went to the Secretary of State and her County registrar and they told her that though and now they got matter for complaining about it though, there is no one better now and pry and we need to stop and were getting inherently have a trifecta in our legislation right now, so we are completely Democrat ran and are running it from the ground.

Even with the code that this is this is what I want people to understand because you don't live in a state that has tried these experiments of utilizing the mail may be voted absentee before. But even now you unless you got a relates like you're totally out of it may be out of the country, serving overseas. No other other issues or or you know you to be may be gone. Even because all the states that have adopted early voting tell you that's that's odd.

Voted in the last potential election.

So I still went and went to the same thing you would do on election days which were different place because it not as many open and the lines are not as long you still go through the normal same way you'd vote in person and I'll tell you it feels much more secure because you ask her to show up. You have to be there then in the past I've got an absentee ballot and you can send it off and you're like okay I hope this gets. This makes it at a time when the mail service is under the most stress it's been under probably in decades because of covert, 19 and that the lack of flights.

The lack of the ability to transport all this so 164, 31 to me to keep take your calls.

We come back second half hour coming up 100-684-3110 meet just to understand the significance. The issue that the chairman of the RNC Rhonda McDaniel. She talked about the cc said, and will place for we come back second half hour in LA County alone there's a there's an additional 1.5 million people on the voter rolls that lit then that live in the county that of voting age so I mean there you talk about the issues when you're dealing with very large cities. It can take years to get their voter rolls updated and then there behind by the time they do that update years behind. And so when you start saying will the everybody which is registrable to send this out to you are going to have a stand pointed out this issue of someone who continues to get a ballot for someone who may be deceased for someone who's moved for someone who's not that address how you know where that that the 18, 19, 20-year-old is and you know, put your get up with this other parents that they gotta figure out our innocent tribes into a school. We are not. Schools are to be open and some of the states and others. We know for certain, they won't be so maybe that would've been there address but now it's not me think about the issues you're putting on people and are you the secondary issue is we can have same day but are you not have any same-day voting or the early voting in person. Cancel in person vote you can understand this is a real policy issue to discuss. It's not one that we have a ton of restorative examples of wrongdoing but not widespread is because it hasn't been adopted widespread because of the at the local level and state level at your states have adopted for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side.

If you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and Jordan secular. This is interesting. Mail in voting. You could say is a throwback to the dark old days of vote buying fraud. Because of this, many countries don't allow absentee ballots for citizens living in their country including one of those favorite of socialist Norway or Mexico. This is because of the fraud issue and and I think Estonia is the only country that adopted fully electronic voting. I mean these are small small countries that are trying experiments out. They are not the United States. They've not had these credit histories of long term of voting where we have up pretty secure system.

We were able to detect problems. Is it nothing I get a set about perfect. It's about as close to perfect as possible and and it doesn't mean that you can't open discussions about the use of technology we dipping or you live, you might go in person, but you're still doing it on the screen and the screen prints out a receipt so there's some record all of these issues. There's a reason why even in those matters.

They don't just say you do boom boom boom hit the screen there still something comes out pay for the record of the vote. I think twitter getting involved on this issue. Of all the things a presence tweeted in before his present United States on a policy issue a legitimate policy issue that Democrats have also been on the same side about the election probably play Jerry Nadler, here's your Nadler even in further. He was young he got pushed back on his position back during this committee hearing in 2004 again. This was his response that up on the problem was played by five this gotta be a way of getting the best of our methodologies. The MIT studies have shown that hand counted paper ballots are among the most reliable available if there is a miscount and its government. You can't discover myth as with a sound and zany optical scan with paper II want a paper trail I want paper somewhere but pure paper with no machines. I can show you. I can show you experience which had spent okay so if he's got the experience to make your my head spin fan. I mean I have to work.

Twitter is taking up CNN and Washington Post opinions on on what they want to pick and choose to put in their stories on voter fraud issues that come up in case that if it tried to adopt this before or issues that they've dealt with in their ignoring where Democrats have been on the same issue that's a liberal Democrat Democrats were arguing in favor of the present impeachment. One of the house managers to repeat the present night state was on the same side of this issue will couple things that are ironic got your 91st of all, impeachment was also just about a policy dispute and it was about a policy dispute in the in the fullest authority of the President's power, which is foreign policy, but on this matter, Jordan, that soundbite you just played that sounded to me like a debate over policy was not a debate over policy and there were people on both sides of it, and they were going back and forth about their various ideas you could take either side of the position and make the argument that your side was the correct one at Jordan, that is the definition of the policy dispute and that is what Twitter has tried to weigh in on. Here's the other thing I would tell you Jordan, I think the only legitimate way that you can take the position that Twitter is taking that the President should not engage in this debate is if you do not believe there is any fraud that exist if fraud exists. Jordan there should be a bipartisan approach a bipartisan debate over the best ways to combat that in you been quoting extensively from this report from Jimmy Carter and James Baker who said of vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail Jordan.

The only reason for not engaging that policy debate is if you think there's that not a single example of voter fraud across America and that is just not a tenable position, and of course the person in charge of this for twitter. I alluded to this CPI prepared a media advisory present from communication advisor present office of Nazi prison to a Nazi and this is twitter's head of site integrity whose put out extremely partisan comments about present, surprise, surprise. So again, talking about Ken weighing into a dangerous area on these issues with take your calls come back countries. The challenges facing Americans is a time when our value or freedom sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms and the vent remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thinking. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn cold dishes like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life Jesus were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the motion and what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to life Western free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/twitter start fact checking folks on Twitter with large utilizer platform also bring in millions of people to their platform is present trump does and attention on their platform. Some have even said may have saved the platform because it was becoming somewhat irrelevant until the present is to begin utilizing a more more when he is running for President suddenly is no longer no one talked about the fact I don't know if the turned profit still, but are trying to trying to Howdy Eddie, make this business that works or not least in the tech company received with Facebook to they get they get really large.

They come to get behind the ball little bit suddenly their target market is no longer the market that utilizing them as much a kind of just changes so I get they can make business decisions that that's they're up to them, but businesses usually I can just go and decide I want to do anything I want enough there's there's rules, you know, there are rules for every business evening free and open country like ours in the most conservative cities in the country you have to to open a restaurant that serves food and when I'm tired, but the days of Cova 19 even before that if the follow certain rules you have to enforce the laws enough you start selling alcohol to minors you're getting in trouble you to lose liquor licenses that put you out of business.

Possibly the so many different things just in that industry. So here we are to have a Twitter nappy was in the presence trying to come down what what they can do and regulate, I think that the truth is they are a free-speech platform that doesn't mean you can free speech does not include crimes, but it does include policy dispute and and and certainly that's that that if that's the you know they love promoting their platform as this vehicle for positive social change part that positive social change is even if you come down if it cites the date of issues you can have this free and open discussion of all the things the twitter and all the tweets they got many to choose from. From the present effect of this was the issue I think relates to who was in charge there of their head of insight, integrity is Joe Roth. He boasts on his LinkedIn that he is in charge of developing and forwarders and enforcing twitter's roles that would include the one that included the warning label on the east tweets on mailing out ballots. Everyone would regards the requested just based off voter rolls, and he's got these anti-trump tweets.

He called for. I referred to trump present trump and his political team is quote actual Nazis and IT said nasty things about Mitch McConnell stuff that honest, I can't read on radio because I have to follow rules, broadcast rules, the stations that Ron have to follow rules were not unregulated. This is now. If you go into the world of podcasts you might get into an unregulated world. And that's more digital and then is cut out to people now as those get larger and larger. You say will regulations will eventually probably come in and if you're someone you love the light. The biggest podcast the countryside on the spot if I you're now dealing with a big business. They are good they charge people so if they charge people and these suddenly this becomes a different kind of issue. So I just think again it's a legitimate policy discussion to have. Don't take present trump sword for the subject unit with we play Jerry Nadler soundbites Pliny on the broadcast already today.

It underscores again why this is the reaction when people say suddenly five months before election they're going to just mail people ballots and listen to people dealt with it. 164 3110 eddies in California on line 6 Eddie, welcome to Jay Sekulow live your on their role earned here in California, 90 20 and narrowing down important legislation and Republican to Democrat Siebert.

And were wondering how that any sheep in a Republican Oliver light and all the think tank either at Democrat again.

There is human error is technical air there. It's an but you know what the problem is, especially in large sites in California trying to change that is not so easy either because you gotta go through levels of bureaucracy than to reregister through your timeouts was 92 years old again with a be someone who could should legitimately request apps about sure. Especially if there's a Cova 19 issue in November. Yeah that would be said to be a reason why Arctic health issue to be a reason why you know you Mark that okay but the truth is, this is not what is being that's not what's being discussed in the states was being discussed as were just gonna shut it all down and send it out to register voters and how the state can stay up to speed with United subleasing to register those same day they they've enacted things like that same day voter registration but how would you ensure those people got in the ballot. The media brings up a whole host of legal issues as well that I don't think the states are fully thought through that are talking about enacting this in such a short term with such a short window to enacted back to the phones we go, let's go to Whitney in Texas is dealt with absentee ballots when you walk in the Jay Sekulow live your on their starting we were living in Australia during term 2014 election and wanted to vote on union because they were so far and barely had an out night birthday timeshift and we get six months to live out when we started when we first put in a request about the three month appointment we had applicant teeth violently started piling up regularly.

We went to Princeton to the consulate and they said you need to give the State Department we emailed the State Department and the person that they taught us to contact umpteenth time and ultimately never received a ballot so we can realize that this process our right to vote via absentee ballot is really dependent upon bureaucrats facilitation of my absolutely. Especially when you're overseas and you're relying on the U.S. Postal Service. The international mail carrier you know that that the country that your ins mail carrier. All those issues, especially right now. I mean just look at the lack of flights that that were once plentiful to even like the top destinations in the world, from the biggest cities in the world and there down to like one so your mail gets carried on those flights and there's a lot of issues there so and of course if you send it off if you actually do get the ballot descended off, then you're also you don't get any kind of guarantee that your vote is going to be counted or and are so many rules around that you fill it out right to use the right color pin did you use this to do it like this in and if you made an error. Should that be thrown out member hanging yeah and that's why we kind of keep it for those who in special circumstances. For the most part than who need to utilize something like this and so they go in it.

They put their questions absentee ballot in this a timeline where they have to put that in, and in the larger states. I'm sure there still dealing with millions of the millions. But it's not like dealing with 35, 40 million. It's a much different thing to deal with a smaller pool of ballast to try to keep the D propensity of fraud down Jordan both those last two callers really illustrated the point. Well, FYI, had said several times that the only way this works is if you keep the decision-making close to the people during some of the smaller states that have done mailing balloting part of the reason that they have been successful is that it is not just that there are small state is that they actually then delineate the the decision-making and the implementation down to the county level.

So if you do have a problem like Eddie was talking about her like Whitney was talking about. You literally can go down to your county official who you may know or who have interacted with to get that problem rectified during if you pull that all the way back out, and you're talking about a state that the size of California dealing with me on many tens of billions of ballots, and maybe millions and millions of errors Jordan, are you ever going to be able to get someone that can rectify that situation in time for you to vote in that election. I think the odds are very low in its 164 3110 scope again listen to folks who have this odious like an organ Jim on line 3. Jim welcome to Jay Sekulow life make you quick comment if you get a drivers license here in our state, you're automatically enrolled as a boater if you don't check the box when you do it properly. Your automatically checked as a Democrat I get three ballots each year.

Personally, I only send in the line but for sure if I was somebody wanted to cheat. I could easily take those other two about ballot vote the way I want and mail money and to find that the system with a population organ you you would.

I mean it's it's again I I know that most people are not can it be doing this at taking illegal action, but they might be confused they might. I'm especially, if not a state that's put this in place over multi-years, but instead is decide to do it within months. Why did I get the slightest. Maybe I need to send another one.

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Is there enough if I don't send it back. Can I still go on election days are to still be in person early voting or is it because a Cova 19 not allow any of that and it's all the paper sets. My only option.

All those issues.

I'm not saying they can't come up with where there can be on that, but it opens that door to keep extreme confusion in the best plan would always be to change your plan for the next cycle door.

You never want to change it for the cycle that you're in because your and you're just bound to get what we saw in the Iowa caucuses to be quite honest with your getting get something that blows up in your face and look just to address the callers question. This is again a very state-by-state but I actually think this place directly into it because if a state has a certain apparatus where you have a choice on how to vote. Jordan, there are going to be rolling deadlines for those voters to change the way that they vote will organ to be in between those those deadlines of a state like California decides just to pull the plug on some of those options and Jordan you're going to get a long list of voters who think that they are set up to vote one day in the states gonna pull the plug on that option to vote. Those are the voters that can be most likely to be disenfranchised come this November go back the phones Kathy and Marilyn on line 5 Kathy thanks Ron on your on their we nailed federal tax forms for Florida March 10 and paper forms, and we cannot get any information whatsoever, and my sister mail Eric at her, as I can't claim that in today's now there's no one working selling anything and everything because there's no accounting Event. This is the other issue I mean this is a time when these snail mail which I think has a place to place and it can be run effectively and that people there are working hard through a tough time because they are in that they don't have. Sometimes a lot of resources, but, but it's even less likely, it's less reliable than it ever has been. Because of the straits and and again this is what this brings up the problems is if you can't rely on it for your standard tax filing and that brings up issues we're not even sure he and that's the other issue. How do you picture this ever got to where it needs to go and I'm not just time track and say that actually, I counted it its presupposed issues. I think you're hearing it from folks were dealing with in real time and real issues carrying Colorado online to carry welcome to Jay Sekulow live during particular call like question is if I do the mailing voting. I get the ballot and I physically put it in a box right outside the polling place.

Is there a way for me to actually go back and see what my boat actually was in the last election that we've done this with unlikely I don't know all the laws and the rules right Colorado Francis I don't know if maybe there is I've no idea if there's a system to go see if it was if it was counted. I doubt the it wouldst tell you because of the privacy issues with voting. I think that's why we have a not that this issue where we are not anonymous is way to go in vote or request the form, but how we vote is supposed to be.

Ultimately, it's about surgery and yet supposed to be private, but II do that you think Kerry brings up a very good point because it you've done this before and a lot of this is on campaigns to organize and make sure that they have election officials at polling places.

Make sure that Alline is fair to make sure the people at privacy and make sure the people that are eligible to vote. I get to vote adjourned.

That is gonna be a much more difficult hurdle for campaigns to engage in a system where they have the incentive to help secure our election adjourned. That's a challenge that I'm not sure. Well, I only miss am not sure a campaign whether it's Donald Trump or Joe Biden's Jordan.

They are not gonna be able to do that in a five month period, either don't know absolutely not. I mean just putting together potentially those election day folks that you can imagine the heavy lift that is in states in the in the larger states in every state is so many polling locations. This takes it to hold other level was take Pat in California final call the day Pat welcome Jay Sekulow live call currently loaded mailing ballot. I did not request I drafted 28 years. There is no reason for it. I called that you know with the idea they gave me currently linked to the DMV and white. Everything I put a baby in the age of everything I nearly know why he should be involved with their eye for vote by mail. I want. I think that this is this is the issue again and that this is that's on the smaller skill you did the right thing you not sure why you got this. I didn't put this request in why you come to my door was an most people will do the right thing, but not everyone in other people can be influence and also if you just say to happen this way. It's not like you're dealing with these on the smaller issue for the maybe an absentee ballot in this house and one to this house but literally for balance in this house and in six bouts of this house because there's this people to dress and probably people live there before you get one for them to especially if you haven't lived there for 20+ years. If you're still getting folks who may live your house before your there mail you probably get ballots to so that takes time. That takes at least a few years.

Often times the Postal Service to completely get that taken care of and that's not election roles which are even more massive and so and people not necessarily taking the action on their own to put in the information it may not be that option but yet they moved to a different state they would just register their and then I can vote the other state initially doing something wrong but his spouse still going out this so much talk about here on justice. One issue you can understand why Twitter had no place getting involved here, picking and choosing which New York Times article and I think they've they've probably opened a Pandora's box when I will talk about this. Other issues welcome on Jay Sekulow for decades ACLJ has been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights importance in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side.

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