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EP263: Life Beyond My Wildest Dreams: Professional Dog Walker and One Black Troop's Trip to Buchenwald

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April 14, 2022 3:05 am

EP263: Life Beyond My Wildest Dreams: Professional Dog Walker and One Black Troop's Trip to Buchenwald

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April 14, 2022 3:05 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, Ryan Stewart shares his story of how canines have helped him get through life's adversities. Rona Simmons, author of The Other Veterans Of World War II, Stories from Behind the Front Lines, tells the story of Bill Scott, an African American combat engineer and photographer from Alabama who became one of the "black angels" for prisoners at Buchenwald Concentration Camp.

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00:00 - Life Beyond My Wildest Dreams: Professional Dog Walker

23:00 - One Black Troop's Trip to Buchenwald

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After going through life, unsure of what he wanted to do for a long time settle on something quite they Ryan runs a very successful dog walking business in New York City. The job is the only good thing in life, thoughts right you to share about the many ways in which dogs impacted his life and continue to do so. Do I was born in Taipei, Taiwan, and I was given up for adoption immediately like three days old. I was handed over to a military family and they weren't happy together you know is one of those marriages where the woman was pregnant and so my father taught the honorable thing to do would be to marry her but they weren't really a good couple. So I think they tried to fill that with kids and so they adopted me and in the adopted two other Taiwanese children and young that two of their own so than they have five and when I was six, my adopted mother and my adopted father divorced and she left the house and he raised us for a while alone. My father growing up I always thought he was really really boring you didn't talk much. He did stuff like he ate the same food. I remember he ate like grape nuts and like almost every morning or or boats or something like that and and he liked peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and he sighed from his military outfit he wore like jeans and a T-shirt. Her like a cheap windbreaker and it never occurred to me that he was anything more than like a boring man, but later on in life now is my role model. I mean, he adopted me and to others from Taiwan and he put bread on the table. He took no credit, no chlorine on limelight churchgoing man the church love them. Remember I spoke at his funeral at the church 10 years ago or so, and I told them I told church full of people that I will be pretty proud of myself if I could somehow become half the man he was.

They say blood is thicker than water. He adopted me so I always think now that sweat is thicker than blood as he put the workingman were in DC for several years and I got the crap kicked out of me like on a daily basis. Growing up in DC so I toughened up. I've had to fight every day and I mean. So then we moved to Europe he was reassigned and we were in Holland. That was interesting to is that nearly here the Yankee I remember there was this big graffiti near like two blocks from houses and Yankee go home and bring that every day of my life there but for the most part, I love your you and I got a lot of trouble at first because I was used to fighting so I thought, you mean like you solve your problems with your fists while you know like in nicer areas. Don't do that, you know, so I was in the principals office.

I was like his favorite hero is like you again and then he would have like a bowl of candy and say likes it. Have a candy sit down and then he wouldn't even discipline me he would just sit there and talk about his childhood numbers. Listen to him. I also accelerated grades so I apparently was very smart when I was young I don't know what happened you know where it went.

But when I was young I was very smart and I'll be like that kid who get an hour to take a test. I finished 20 minutes and slap it on the teacher's desk and all the kids look up you know and glare at me now and then I got be up for that. So slowly learned fighting wasn't that you know the way to go. Then we moved from Europe to the St. Louis area St. Louis suburbs and I picked on a lot because I was small and young, but fortunately my sisters were pretty popular homecoming queen stuff like that so couple of the guys became friends want to get close to my sisters so they would sorry try to get close to me now, so that helped me a lot in my family's probably stop getting picked on. When I was maybe like the senior so we had chores when my sisters were maybe to be doing the dishes. My brother maybe has the most long, but I had to walk the dog, so I always have the dogs company and something that service saw me through my solitude was my relationship with dogs and I don't know what I would've done without them. Years later, my girlfriend at the time got a new puppy and she got a trainer and I watched the trainer, you know, I filed directions and the trainer looked at me and says your financial town with dogs you know have you ever thought about working with dogs and so what I did with that is nothing but I did read some dog books. I taught that dog maybe 40 or 50 tricks like walking on its hind legs are walking or belly crawling like an Army soldier or turning circles one way or turning circles the other way.

Or, you know, playing dead or rolling over, you know all call kinds of tricks and we use that dog for like commercials in New York City and stuff like that and that got me hooked up with the commercial agent for animals, so she would always call me and so I done you know, I've been the train onset production stage dogs on runway dogs on commercial sets dogs on short film sets so I wasn't really full time into it at that point I was just kind of beating around the bush note pickups and commercials here and maybe like sometimes waiting tables and then I'm not sure how appropriate this is but I start selling mushrooms so this is like eight years later, I was going with a different woman out and she said what are you doing with your life in a like which doing is not that she was a nice person but she was smart.

I symbol what should I do and she said well you're good with dogs. Why don't you try working with dogs and basically she said if you don't quit all this nonsense that you're doing. I am going to break up with you and so I almost got forced into the dog business. I looked into working a dog daycare just money wasn't good enough. Training wasn't steady enough and I looked into dog grooming I just wasn't into grooming now. It just wasn't me and so I just settled on dog walking, and you're listening to Ron Stewart share his own stories, not only about his passion for dogs but about everything else from his father was girlfriend telling to essentially grow up. When we come back more Brian Stewart story here on our American stories. Our American stories we bring you inspiring stories of history, sports, business, faith and love stories from a great and beautiful country need to be told we can't do it without you are stories are free to listen to with her not free to make you love are stories in America like we do. Please. Well American stories.com and click the donate button give a little of a lot help us keep the great American stories coming our American stories.com and we continue with our American stories and Ryan Stewart, owner of Ryan for dogs successful dog walking business in New York City. We last left off. Ryan's girlfriend was pushing him to grow up and to get a life and will get serious about his life.

Let's pick up where we last left off, being a dog walker scalable, like the walk-through dogs at 163 times a money market one dog. Although I wasn't really like the goal wasn't to make my goal is just to get a regular job so microform would leave me.

This was a little slow going at first because you're going to go into someone's house with their keys and take the precious dog out for a walk so the most important thing is having the people who hire you, trust you to go into their house so he started off slow and yet to build a reputation so the first couple you're the kind of slow and are not making a lot of money but as the years progress and you do a good job and you work hard and you don't kill any dogs or losing dogs.

Then you get more reputation than more more people hire you, and it's just I didn't imagine this would turn into like coming, it's 15 years later now so it was how I imagine it would turn out to be, but it's what snow is life beyond my wildest dreams I actually like what I am finally I work with dogs every day, seven days a week and haven't taken a vacation since 2008.

Must be because dogs are great. So when I first started walking dogs. It was a bit of a novelty to get large groups together now presented sort of fun because you know like wow how many like to stretch your limits parents out there that's where teenagers drives 95 miles an hour and gets arrested because they're testing the limits so when I first started. Of course only, I can walk three dogs together. Let's try for five and so I would go up to 12 all at once. Sometimes on a bike.

Sometimes I will be riding a bike with like 10 dogs on one side. The thing is that's really hard so I would prefer not to make my job harder because what happens if you have like 12 dogs and one stops to poop you sort of have to kinda shift all the other 11 to one side, you've got 12 leashes and yet to get your poop bag out and then you have to somehow it reached over and get the and still keep the other 12 from fighting each other and pick up that poop and then get into a trashcan and then like what that was like two minutes are working to poop up.

Let's be on our way you take three steps and then another one starts to poop, so like three or 45 get a lot more done. Plus, people don't stare at you and take your picture. There was an editorial in the Wall Street Journal you know where the guy scoffed at dog walkers and said anyone can walk dogs is not even call it a profession, and he might be right when it comes to one dog or maybe even two. But if you want to walk six or eight or 10 you have to be good you have to have some talent. There are certain types of customers who like me because I'm no-nonsense like at all. I'm actually considered a bit rude not trying to be rude I just don't feel like guessing, and I noticed that amongst a lot of the trainers that I've known good dog trainers or so to the point that it's almost considered rude like we would be at dinner.

My mentor her name is Linda. She would like in the middle of dinner since she'd say I'm not feeling very well go home and stand up and overthrow $60 in table and believe and I'm in the middle of like my quesadilla in any dogs or to the point. That's what dogs understand. So you work with dogs for years. You just to the point. Eventually, after several years past.

I was popular enough for head to me. Dogs walk myself and so I hired a guy and then another couple years past. Now hire another one and I looked at it and I knew I could hire more and more more neck become a manager or owner of a large operation and very quickly. I saw that when you have people working with you or for you there human beings so they have their flaws.

So some of them are late, often some of them don't communicate well you know and so that's can be very annoying.

So I thought what she like if I keep hiring people I'm going to be annoyed all the time and like that's not what I signed up for. I signed up dogs. So I held three people.

I also do dog training on the nights and weekends and I could do that like a lot training is difficult for me because I will go and meet the dog owner and their dog and I will tell the dog owner what to do, give examples, and they will nod their heads and say that's completely make sense, and then they will go back to doing exactly what they were doing before. So that's not easy for me to get paid to be ignored. And that's what it feels like so I'm not overly fond of training that I do it. I have the Rhodesian ridge back to camp first German Shepherd and little musical terrier mix there also owner surrenders so they all have their little problem I had known this little terrier, they hired me to walk the dog and the owners finally gave up on him after five years of trying and trying and they knew they wanted kids in his divider, bites them, bites of the dogs he was like a kid and they said we can keep from turning into a shelter and I knew that like he's going to kill you know because he's gonna bites next owner.

So I kept to myself is not my favorite dog. Sometimes I wish I didn't have them often. I wish I didn't have his opinion but I see a lot of myself in him.

I was given up more than once.

Like him, and it's like personal like I'll be damned to give up on him. Now I take dogs into juvenile detention facilities for a job and try several people before me and they don't last very long. Like a week or two because you can't just want to help you have to be able to mingle with like 18-year-old convicted murderers and be comfortable with them and coming from a tough background. You know that helped me a lot and also having made so many mistakes in my life helps me not judge others not been working there for about a year and half now I'm trying to get youths to engage and to bring them out and I'll get them talk about themselves and try to get some of them to learn something and sometimes is not easy because there very guarded working with teens who have shot someone. Most of them have killed. I bring the dog in and the grounds them. You know their feet don't touch the earth anymore and the sun doesn't kiss their face, so if I bring a dog in the can touch the dog and they touch the earth by touching the dog and perhaps just for that for that minute.

They feel human again. No, despite the horrible things that they did, still children of God. I'm not saying I want them out on the street to kill again. But that's what dogs do for me it kept me from straying too far off base when I was in my darkest think they have helped me be very in the moment, so that's what I usually use that ability, one on in the juvenile facility because I don't care what they did in the moment like a year ago for like six months ago.

I just try to get them to engage with me now these are so hardened murderers, but some of them are still 15 or 16 so the still a child in there and so then you get the dog there and sometimes you can see the child come out and that's that's pretty heartwarming at one time I saw this big guy always asked how often I brought in a French bulldog and French bulldog is early, you know, interesting looking they look like little frogs and he stopped acting cool because he just forgot who he was. He was jumping up and down off the ground. This big 6 foot to guy who killed someone and he's jumping up and down like a little kid and I looked at them just like you. Some of them are still kids. So dogs have done a lot for me and also like dogs. I was taken from my original mother and rehome the immediately so all dogs are are that so basically I'm a dog you know it's not really glamorous to be a dog walker that I find that I care about that less and less. A beautiful job in the storytelling and production by Madison and a special thanks to Ryan Stewart, owner of Ryan for dogs.

What a story, starting with his dad would first he thought was a boring man and soon came to see his dad's role model and right up to his girlfriend push them to get a job him admitting I like who I am.

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He actually moved with his father to Atlanta and grew up there for the time it was actually a relatively different experience. He was young black boy and his father was a black businessman in Atlanta back in the 30s and his mother was the head of the Atlanta daily world, a newspaper successful blackened enterprise. One of the only successful newspaper in the country so one might say he had a life of privilege, of the course.

I think he would absolutely deny that he was able to bend time with his father and get to know the newspaper business. His father insisted that he not start anywhere course. Even as a child that would be working but when he grew up that he would not just assume a role in Pres. Pres. Esther executive that said now you're going to sweep the floor and started the bottom you can learn the business you can learn about business as well as learn the business of the newspaper.

So he had and every once in a while he and his younger brother. Of course, like any child wanted a few nickels and dimes to buy something had caught their eye and so his father said.

Now if you want nickels and dimes. Guess what, here are a few papers you get to go sell them so he learned about selling newspapers. Wasn't that the life of anyone event of privilege.

He learned the business, but his father was shot and killed in an accident in Atlanta one evening and the family fortunes took a downturn. He adored his father and so it was not a happy childhood that he had expected and he didn't have a guiding light. He didn't have his father to tell him what to do or how to go further in life buddy. I think he had that early early training that stuck with at least he had that much of his father to carry with them and to remember. He then went on to Morehouse College in Atlanta and started volunteering for the newspaper and Morehouse College and beyond just writing stories. He became the photographer for the Marine Tigers and he really had thought about the war. War was not at the top of mind that at that point in time, and was more intent on finishing college and marrying his sweetheart than having anything to do with the war.

We were preparing for seven 1940. We passed the first peacetime draft in history and everyone was required to go down to their local draft board and register black white.

Unfortunately, while the Blacks were registered because in the prejudices that existed at that time and perhaps the feeling, probably more than perhaps the feeling that Blacks would not be able to perform as well as whites in the war. They were often registered but looked over so if a request for a troops came to their area. They would pick the white soldiers and send them off first and is actually worse than that, as war went on. Not only were they passed over for prejudices because of the segregation of of Blacks and whites even in their communities that was also found to be true in the Army where there were no separate facilities available they would not send black soldiers, so unless there were barracks that had been constructed sanitary facilities, eating facilities, water supplies everything replicated for the Blacks separate from the white board would not prefer the black soldiers to form units and while that did allow Blacks to then be deployed.

They had further stumbling blocks at one point in time the officers or commanders in the field were not accepting of receiving black units.

So if you were an officer in Europe, but it was England in the early days, or even in the Pacific. You have the right to approve this soldiers that were being sent to you and so they would often not accept black trips, believing they would not perform as well so was fruitless for them to submit these black trips to them.

They overlook them, but the draft found Bill. He really wasn't interested in going. Hadn't thought about it but when the Army calls the answer is yes and so he was drafted and went into the Army in 1943 he was to send a gray, lucky I 43.

He was a little more tolerant. However, he was still assigned to an all black unit that was the norm and that would persist throughout the end of the war all black units would be generally noncombat units and with almost all be supervised by white officers and that was his case.

He was assigned to the 183rd engineer combat Battalion, which is a group of men who were responsible for following behind the Army behind the advancing army the combat unit and maintaining roads, laying the groundwork for airfield winding road, you name it.

That was their job and he did that but he did have the experience of having been the photographer for his college newspaper and some sense of not only photography that what to take when the tape because it is journalism experience. I think those two things when that was seen on his record.

The Army within that one combat Battalion decided to make him their photographer as well so he was known as a reconnaissance sergeant. So we go out and take photographs to the extent they needed to and could get an advance look at the terrain that they were having a class or any enemy activity and he was archivist so he also was recording what is unit did from day to day, not the data's that allowed him to escape from building a bridge or a road, but it meant he did that in addition which was very fortunate for us that they picked Bill because of his training, his combat Battalion was assigned to the third Army, which is Patton's army so he was seeing the major battles through Europe as we push the Germans back.

So you know he was in some of the thick of it.

They are down the Battle of the Bulge. Now he again it was not in the combat he didn't see the battles, but he saw the aftermath he saw the bombed out or shelled villages. He saw the devastation, both human and two buildings and she was writing about those times but he was observing.

As any good journalist would what he saw and whites Bill got orders with his group of black soldiers to go to big and you been listening to Ron Simmons told the story of Bill Scott and what a story it is goodness would happen him as young boys father shot and killed by the way. Before that, his father teaching him how to put in a days work, not just giving them money even though his father ran a very successful newspaper, then we learn about as we always do. We go back in history. Blacks were treated in this country even in our military at the time.

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When we last left off.

Rhonda was telling us the story of Bill Scott and African-American Army engineer and photographer from Atlanta, Georgia only last left off. Bill had just received orders to go to the Buchenwald concentration camp. Let's continue with the story for the most part, the Holocaust, which of course was not called the Holocaust time is not well we didn't know a lot about it.

There were rumors there were newspapers to be read accounts that were coming out from Germany from Austria: where the camps were, but people didn't take it seriously.

They could hardly believe that something like that was going on they might know that question were prisoners of war that were probably not treated as well as we would like to think we do. But what was happening was largely ignored or just not believable and at some point the US American war intelligence office decided that they needed to start preparing the troops for what they were going to see and what they might encounter as they moved into these war-torn areas so they produced a number of films from captured newsreels. In some cases from first-hand accounts. In other cases and produced these black-and-white films. They decided they should show the troops who were advancing so that if they saw this day would know what was what to expect. No know the extent of the devastation they might see.

So Bill was one of the once his unit saw the films and he remembered saying in the discussions that occurred later that this is all propaganda.

This is there's no one that can be as cruel and inhumane as what these films are telling us so that at least sort of watched, but didn't take it to heart and didn't believe that they would see anything quite like what was portrayed on the film, but some point after seeing these films.

Bill got orders with his group of black soldiers to go to bacon. It is sad and not think anyone can exactly substantiate this, that our officers knew that going into the camp that the prisoners might not believe after all these years extent they are that these in fact they were in fact now free because this'll be the prisoners had been tricked in earlier circumstances, the Germans might throw open the gates and tell the prisoners your free only to execute them as a try to play the Searches having the doors opened, they weren't going to leave very hard to believe. Eisenhower himself realized this and so when they were coming close to liberating the camps.

His orders came to send the black troops.

They knew that the prisoners in the concentration camp when they saw the black soldiers come in that there was no way that those were German soldiers.

This had to be true. They were in fact black troops would be obviously American troops. Obviously there to liberate people. In fact, they became known as the black angels to the prisoners in the camps. That's what specifically bills the unit that went to Buchenwald, Buchenwald, might as well abandon Berlin, Munich, or any other German city at that point, but Walt meant nothing to Bill or to his fellow troops. And he thought what you and me to do that and take asked one person or another and the other men in his his group did the same and they didn't get any explanation. And of course the Army doesn't owe them an explanation, but they they still wanted to know what he was expected to do in the and finally one of the officer said just go and see sort of chilling trust now because of course we know what he's going to see but there was no other instructions so he hopped in his Jeep went with the other troops found his way down to Buchenwald and when he got there there was a camp there was barbed wire fencing and the Germans had fled, and so they said well this is one of those camps but it's there's nothing here.

There'd there's some people fence but nothing's going on and he said as he got closer and closer. He started seeing the people who had been imprisoned and they were of course emaciated.

Certainly many of them might have shown wounds or sores that might not have healed many of them couldn't walk couldn't stand all of the horrible things we see and that's when he got out of his Jeep and he realized what he was there to see, to bear witness in a way to have a testament to what had gone on so he again as a journalist grabbed his camera and began shooting some pictures prisoners would beckon them come look at this distance, so he and his fellow soldiers aghast, followed the prisoners to see and as he went further into the camp so struck by what he was saying in the realization that this film will set I stopped. I put my camera down. I could not go on and even here, knowing that he was there to see in there to bear witness. He couldn't do it man extent of man's depravity was so overwhelming he could go on was so foreign to Bill. He is just to get everything he had been brought up. No. And to think about other people that he said later as he contemplated this that he knew or thought of the German people as being an educated people, and he threw his father's influence had been educated and could not imagine how educated group of people who had to know what they were doing had to know right from wrong. Had to know what the value of other human beings is still just was incomprehensible to him. He thought surely education would have prevented this from happening, and it clearly had not said that was one aspect of the war that he brought home with him and it was really fundamental to him having regarded education so highly. I don't think he ever could come to grips with how that had happened and why it happened, but thankfully he did take some pictures even as horrified as he was because he could've easily said that I can't do this. I won't do this. This is so awful.

No one should see this. And yet, the journalist in him came to the fore and he said we've got to have this is a record went on through your finished his tour of duty, but they now have a second fight. Unlike their white counterparts when the Blacks returned they were still in a sense at war. They were at war two. Establish their own place in our society. What he learned about after he returned from the war was something that I think a lot of people don't know about which was the double the campaign to recognize the war that Blacks had to fight was considered double V if they were able to accomplish what they wanted in terms of getting black integrated into our society.

Bill began working to that extent.

He went back to the paper, but he also spent much of his time working for the NAACP for other foundations like the educational foundation of metro Atlanta the greater Atlanta Council of human relations was very active in the community and thankfully had a voice platform to this paper to help move that along.

And he became recognized for by not only participating in the associations I mentioned, but also he got several awards was recognized for in a quest for the Holocaust contribution the photography that he did by having his photographs placed in the US Holocaust Museum in Washington DC about a year before you die.

Gov. Joe Frank Harris awarded him a charter membership in the Georgia commission on Holocaust and in that same year Pres. George H. W. Bush appointed him to the US Holocaust counsel two things that really told him that he had actually been able to realize that double the campaign he helped the US when the war in Europe and he had come home and on his part to help when recognition for the black soldiers in the Blacks in our society and a terrific job on the production of Montgomery. Special thanks to Rhonda Simmons for sharing the story of Bill Scott, what a story indeed me to see what he saw in Buchenwald. What a thing to witness and bear witness to the photograph meant to come back and fight that second war reintegration, and for equal treatment and then ultimately to be on these dual Holocaust commission. Finally made it as an equal member of society tragic and beautiful story here on our Americans.

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