EP277: Selling Her "RedHead" Wine to Walmart, Life Lessons From A Dairy Farm and I Admit It, I Sew Quilts

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This next story is brought forth by Alex Cortez, who recently went to a fascinating event called open call where Walmart opens the doors to over 500 entrepreneurs to come to their headquarters. What they call the home office in Bentonville, Arkansas and pitch their American-made products to get into their over 11,000 stores and it's a part of Walmart's commitment to buy an additional 250 billion worth of American-made products over a 10 year period and Alex now brings us the story of an entrepreneur. He met there. Marissa surging is a redhead of our Hackett form template section sounds so being able to buy and the public that we are sassy firecrackers that I force to be reckoned with the ability to really near full potential and be fine and khaki fishing reputation is on the right is you can probably guess by now Marissa is.

She started a wine company appropriately named redhead at the age of 19, which you probably think is illegal to drink wine, let alone to self but not in her state of Ohio. Both of your parents can our weekly laptop and drink. I've been drinking wine since day one. To be honest, my grandpa surging when give my sister and I symbols wine and my mom Wayne scream like this is only like four or five weeks following my grandpa Dominic said she said the paper babysitting and my mom thought hey why making is in my blood figuratively and literally. I grew up in a very high-end center family and my grandparents immigrated here from Italy over 40 years ago and got over the extension of winemaking so growing up I always had family and friends coming in and out of my grandparents house drinking wine and eating food. Just like they were one of Kathleen something that inspired me to carry on with the family education. My grandma was only two years old so I can play, unable to raise his men ran through my father, Frank Sergey founded the winery where I work at the Bella winery labeled I wanted to finally leveraging market research went appealed to me young person I knew.

Labels are very self life line to a very appealing label yet having a high quality wind and is able to get a whiny degree from Quail University medical culture which some people might think is journey to trick you.

Culture is really major. I love when people tell me that because number one most failed class diversity is the wine class within the hotel school because people come in and day out I drink wine all day Canadian peace out well when you failing you can get your diploma is a big deal. It is a lot of wine chemistry and biochemistry, microbiology, and your management plan can can advance chemistry, organic wine chemistry one, two and three can't just walk through the winemaking major at Cornell University trunk for the next four years and I mean you gotta pay attention. You know your stuff or at least get help if you don't know what you're doing.

I was a classic college student not paying attention in my class now and I received an email that if you are not newer and had a chronic or an idea to come to a meeting to receive free wing over best wings in the, I love hot wings very expensive so the Pro college student so I think I'm near the business. I have redhead wine. I happen to have a bottle with campus so hungry and it check it out its wings and leave helping out with me forgot red hair. I said out a bottle of wine so I'm cool and then I found my wings very high.

My plate then with professors running meetings like you are must give an elevator pitch meeting crap please because I know some here so you pitch what I googled wine in just the facts slats of any other didn't completely fall my face in front of 100 people that were there and later received an email from the College of agriculture and life sciences that I was nominated as the student business of the year for my gels like a business owner I don't know how to even pitch a business professionally in a competition like we are. I did not win the competition but I learned so so much. I learned how to pitch a business professionally all that business terminology that was really to communicate when it came to being in your market strategy, product market target market I just winemaking with an idea so after graduating college, I moved to McKesson California) winery out there about a year of experience 22 years old, single kids, I'm just good pack up my bags from sunny California, moved 3000 miles back to my childhood bedroom in Ohio became a bootstrapped un-glorified aunt Lodge redhead I knew I would be eight years old on my rocking chair drinking some gin and tonic. One day, like I wonder if I did, so we are happening in real when we come back we continue this delightful voice. Marissa surgeries and she is the founder of red wine based in Youngstown, Ohio. Her story continues on our American stored view of the great American stories we tell him love America.

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That's because this big pile of dirty clothes and all three clear mega packs have your back purchase all three clear mega packs today and conquer any laundry load for all fabric types were back American stories with entrepreneur Marissa surgeries story. The year was 2017 and she heard about an opportunity to pitch one to Walmart and their "event checking email application and I was like wow had no chance. Always know if you don't ask finger sent an application on a few weeks later I find so I was excited but nervous as a once-in-a-lifetime when he pitch Walmart is important to understand how to work Walmart and analyzing what benefit for how you bring them value. You can just picture product and about your product and who you are your business and how it's good to work you think about talking to provide as much value as possible and the product sales will come later.

So I had a marketing professor from my shoe help me analyze Walmart stores and see what percent of the market. I can capture a test market and I believe that really showcase how we did a research where Sammy can just drop a particular shelf whose that by what current Walmart customers get up purchased line thing and that really helped. I took a deep breath and is walking near with confidence to think make it but the buyers so kind and really interesting when will my advice you open call they want to work with you walk away with no or maybe there's still a chance they want to make it work because they're interested in your product, they would be biting here to waste your time by trip, so ask them against me said yes and I was very very grateful for that. In when I walked out of the buyer meeting. I felt like an out of body experience. I couldn't believe I pulled it off and leave the second redhead wine and allowed me to have an opportunity at my dream by creating a wine brand that could potentially be shared with the whole country. One day, so the first person I called was my grandparents first people I called my grandparents and they are very excited. It was nice to share that excitement with men.

I the boots on the ground and started hitting the pavement with sales a winemaker.

I think the wine that part of my test market. I had to pitch every single manager or department lead to get them to locate the product and then I would be able to sell their as many as I wanted in the state of Ohio light. I knew I can only handle between 30 to 60 Light off too much like to because deliver on time and your commitments. The minute you're not on any business setting is the moment that you lose all of your potential and credibility so that I really tried to emphasize when I was trying to pitch and grow the company. What was most important was dated the sellthrough rate are you meeting home offices sellthrough just the number of units that you're selling per week per month or quarter are you having a great reputation, our customers getting good feedback and looking for your product and 60 stores later year and 1/2 in the future we received modular space. Permanent shelf position reserved for your product in your product only so that is the most prime possession. You could have is a supplier that you can't be kicked off the shelf by other competition home office has that little reserve sign for you. And with that tag their place in the PC on it and really cool to see on the shelf now just happened. Small town 25-year-old winemaker zero budget-Walmart market rate know to start is now zero to be honest I care very real in two years. I only spent $5000 in marketing is just being honest. Customer relationships and putting my best forward. I think that's really helped because I am the winemaker declaration winemaker.

It's what I love it. I think my customers resonate with because a lot of brands out there and so the stories are not true. That just made up just the target market right hand was made because I was hungry for hot wings and had a bottle wine with sleep.

That's the real deal and I think that's why succeeding because I never over.

I just was in the moment we play about total the company and we have hired at least six new additional policing to Walmart.

"So very grateful to be able to do that, especially in Youngstown Ohio. I know what of our job losses have been public I Jim Lordstown close. We lost 1700 jobs or 40 years ago. The steel mills closed. We lost $40,000 so they will be from Youngstown, Ohio while creating a California quality wine by buying the California grapes while keeping the jobs in Ohio is super special to the area and although only hiring a handful people compared to GM what the steel mills.

It's exciting to know that were at least affecting one additional family 2341 is really grateful for the opportunity to have a partnership with Walmart. They've impacted not only my business but maybe my community and of course the entire United States they've committed to invest over $250 billion back in the US economy over this 10 year span.

They plan to have open call and did research that's the crate over 1 million jobs for our country and that's something that everyone should be grateful every day to be here "2009 to 25-year-old Marissa was invited to speak for the 500 entrepreneurs hoping to get into Walmart stores should ever since then I've been paying it forward because I'm just so grateful and want to help others and you fly home on clearing supplier on the inside helping everyone feel comfortable and calm just realizing everyone's humane honesty real.

Be yourself and the moment you can really succeed. Do what you're sought out make it happen.

Marissa only wished that her grandma could've been there to see how her sacrifice has paid off Marissa's life is absolutely feeling sick a century to give the future generations of the searching family a better life.

So I work so hard because I don't want to waste her sacrifice. I wish you could be here today to see what it's like to be at retailers like Walmart and to see what I've been able to take from all of her sacrifice is to go to be one of the speakers this year. One of the colleges. I never imagined. I'm here to embrace every moment.

She absolutely loves wine she's on those traditional grandma making meatballs ate at least 3.4 there so tell I see loves any type of wine and she deftly enjoys redhead the new movement to Marissa surgery and she is the founder of redhead wine based in Youngstown Ohio Marissa surgery story and Walmart store in entrepreneurs story to tell Americans with Medicare coverage decisions for next year and UnitedHealth care can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7.

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Katrina. Katrina has contributed to our show. In many ways this story is a personal story. One of Katrina's early jobs of high school entitled, tell Patty your shoes with the story as a child I had the good fortune to have grandparents lived on a farm in southeast Kansas near little spot. The road called Bartlett.

The highlight of my summer in the best memories I ever had.

Growing up were on that farm. In fact, some of my earliest memories were of the old dairy barn behind the house that was surrounded by colorful hollyhocks and wild roses. No one can explain it to you but for those of us who are familiar with dairy barns know that one of the best smells on a farm is in that dairy barn besides the recycled grass course.

I remember walking into the dairy barn on chilly mornings and being met by the flooring of the looking machine.

The warmth of a potbellied woodstove and mixed it sweeps the milk in Italy. The rhythm of the milk is the radio playing Hank Williams background could almost rock you to sleep. My uncle Vernon, an old bachelor move back to the farm when I was a teenager to run the dairy and he named all the cows beautiful Hollywood sounding names like Eddie and Esther, Dolly and Clara. We never were quite sure about uncle Vernon.

Each morning I was met with the sound of farm report from the local KG GF radio station.

The smell of biscuits baking and bacon popping in the history of the old coffee pot. Granddad bans it was always up before the sun and never ate anything less than biscuits and white gravy.

Several pieces of bacon, two eggs in coffee liberally sweetened with overflowing tablespoons of sugar.

By the way he lived to be 99 years old first thing each morning, uncle Vernon would carry in a bucket of fresh milk still warm and straight from the cow, other than a little speck of dirt and some cow hair. It was wonderful.

Grandma did skim off the dirt and she would blow the cream back while she poured the milk into a little picture on the dining room table jump forward several years.

I was at a high school in somewhat ambivalent about what I wanted to do. I had worked summers at the local sonic while I was in school but I really prefer to be outside. After graduation I worked in Estes Park, Colorado, first on a dude ranch and then later at the lazy B chuckwagon dinners and show where that first summer out of school after the summer jobs had ended and I headed back to Kansas. I knew I didn't want to go back to work at the family hardware store, so I searched the area papers and found an ad for a female dairy hand near Coffeyville, Kansas. This is exactly what I wanted to do because I loved farming. I got the job on the spot and started immediately. The dairy was much larger than my grandparents little 30 Cal operation and the equipment was state-of-the-art automatic milkers. The owners had wanted to hire a woman because the man before the cows until they were too afraid to come up to the barn and when they did their milk production was low. This was also the same year that Jim Stafford song cow. Patty came out on the radio. Little did I know at that time how Cal Patty would apply to my new job. My first challenge was to get the cows comfortable with coming up to the barn. I found out real quick that the pastor where the cows were Huge and chasing them around every day. Took a lot of time there were 155 hid Holsteins and about four currencies to add just the right amount of butterfat to the milk so I decided to try something I would whistle every day that I went out to the pasture to bring the cows up to the barn. I would whistle I would whistle the same thing every day until I found out that they were paying attention. Finally, a few weeks later I was able just to stand at the back door of the barn and whistles lattice.

I could hear they would come that winner that year was particularly harsh with below zero temperatures frigid wind and freezing rain.

The cows would slip and fall on the hard ground and sometimes we have to use a front end loader to raise them up back on their feet.

No one ever said milking cows was glamorous or easy, but there were times that it went to the extreme rather quickly. I hate to admit this but sometimes I do silly things and one very cold day. I did a humdinger we just let some fresh heifers into the main herd and this was a challenge in itself because they had never been milk before and their editors were small.

The milk parlor was designed to prevent the cows from kicking you in the head with a long piece of sheet metal running parallel to raise concrete floor. The cows would run up the ramp onto the raised concrete stop in front of the movable frame trough about 4 feet above the floor. I had all the cows right hand and I noticed that I could not see the other one of the cows I had got all the other cows doing hooked up to the machines and proceeded to try to deal around for the other on what I've fresh pepper I just remember thinking this girl is really long leg.

It I can't reach her other impulsively. I stuck my head under the sheet metal to see were to hook the milker and got two very big surprises. The first was that it was not a heifer but a young steer and the second was a huge hot pile of green gritty manure on my head. Normally I wore a ball But not that day in the hot mess of green grass and sunshine almost burned my head. Let me tell you that stuff was hot.

So in a rush. I grabbed the water hose and tried to get the green mass that was the consistency of wet sand out of my long hair. I got part of it out but what remained was equal to smelly here jail. The other factor had not considered was that it was nearly 10° below outside and I still had to go get another group cows blade the law and then feed the calves.

Needless to say my hair froze solid, not flat on my head, but partially standing up in green grainy appearance and, of course, of all days, the boss decides to come in and notices that something is amiss with my hair we chat for a couple minutes with him staring at my here the whole time, but then he finally decides to leave and then turns around me and says I should ask, but I don't think I will and he walks out shaking his head, took a couple days of hard scrubbing to get that grittiness out of my hair so it wasn't so stiff anymore and not quite so vibrant.

The lesson I learned that day on the dairy farm is don't stick your head under a cows tail defined it's better because you might just come up with Photoshop and some free hair product a great job on the production by faith and a special thanks to Catrina Hein for sharing her own personal experience with early worklife in rural America and anyone who's grown up in a form is around forms or bonds. I spent a lot of time in Barnes and I have a lot of poop stories to actually get accustomed to it. You don't even smell it over time. A course unless it falls on your head, live in hot water story.

What an experience you will not stick her head underneath the cows tail anytime soon. Special thanks to Catrina assuring that story dog walker storage in New York City and will kill poop stories informs everything here on our American stories to share with you the rich and varied life of Americans in this great country story of Cal Patty Catrina Hein story here on our American story Medicare coverage decisions for next year.

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While it is fair to refer to his old woman stretch from 6'6" 250 pound 59-year-old man is not uncommon for complete stranger to ask me in passing with her ever played football or basketball. Told him I was back in the once single person to me. Big fella and oust social quilts was time for me to admit it, nor keep her secret doing sexual quilts and soldiers go very first one surprisingly. "But going to have myself show" was the last thing I ever imagined it would be a student doing. I'm always on the go. Sitting still as much as I enjoyed watching football or baseball game. I can't sit still long enough to watch complete game sitting in front of the told is not for me but nobody's can sit for hours and hours of sewing machine working on the loose quilt start of a chance seven years ago my father-in-law passed away June, she came across his collection of teachers of classic cars, 1962 could be restored classic car shows her lovers started the tradition of going to church with each of the shows who attended Wenzhou strictly in your dresser drawers with all these T-shirts run was a big man figured the church family didn't want to disappoint her source sure I knew it would never wear them. Classic cars are not my thing graciously accepted her gift church were after all, this reminder of my father-in-law the summer school graduation open house there split in the garage equipment at various schools, posters, monies were over the years. It was unique and inspiring commercial with runs to search it will turn them into little equipment suppliers June Justin directed her to search she gifted to me with a slightly different twist.

I mentioned this legitimate opportunity to learn how to sew from a neighbor who was sore working full-time at a fabric store. She invited Kitty to host Norman and told her she was a sewing machine.

She would teach me the basics sort solutions to go to grandma. She was surprisingly interesting going to so she thought it had a good idea. So she said should show you how to so you have the patient's work we can try to enter local drink fabric store process the cheaper solution.

This was only a one time deal. This machine had left me. Quilt store where doing away never to be used by me again to set the machine up for me shall be had us read the Bible and the needle which was not easy test of his goodness that I so this is not my strong suit.

She showed me how to put the two pieces fabric together face-to-face and using 1/4 and see Malone's start my project is a practicing of scrap metal social to have the system down. Sternum runs to shirts starting to come together to see a few flaws in the lines were not perfectly straight, but I have my first real dorm, three shirts, so Brassard suffered by 2 inches moving fabric. When Kitty came over probably shortly progress first.

Rose done to hold back my excitement could examine my work to say she was not impressed be putting it mildly. Dad. She said your daughter to have. You have no idea what you're doing you a good idea to give things to grandma, what is pay someone to do this for you. This looks horrible shortly who broke review my heard word etc. for a few seconds, putting what you doing should thought about before responding. She is right. I am indeed on my comfort zone and the start quilt is a little bit sketchy. I had to admit responded to the sub you are right I could pay someone to make this program as much to her. I think she liked a lot more knowing I made this for flaws and all, I'm not so sure he was convinced that I was in my mind I knew had a good idea to sue through 1/4 next Mr. Gordon Driscoll to Jim, I realized, could you do me a huge favor with her honest assessment. She provided me all the motivation I needed to put the school to go to Joan.

The competitive side of me kicked in essence is to Joan.

No, I was determined to show. To do it as well. I give myself more time to practice and started back in the quilt before Newark was finished. Yes, it wasn't perfect pretty darn good. As with most supportive terms.

Joan was indeed surprised that she loved it. She has a better crucial for mission accomplished.

I put the cheap sewing machine away never to be touched by me again out of sight out of mind a couple years later some tempest will expect to this time you came across truthful T-shirts terms to children by grandkids to the time daddy so close were born to circles. My grandkids and a twist of souls are present with them in there to some of the squares started doing this to should quit making down to you twins getting a bit better than the others sewing thing. I started enjoying it so much good looking traditional business commitments quilt volunteer summertime local system center. In doing so will some of the residents quite will start his became a wicked cribbage partner you listen to circles back in the day, using a member motorcycle club Montana is for you will wonder what will Goodwill store since T-shirts were quite well in this quote Davidson leather jacket, perfect purchases and cut them up sewing shirts to go to the park is subjected to abuse my good friend who surprises tomorrow.

That was priceless doing the basics.

At this point. So stop medical drinks store; most of you noticed, she consumed her source to mine. Sure, she said she was usually some of her tricks and shortcuts she sent me don't machine start start dismissed its notice of the publishing sit here and try she said swifter purpose fabric with my hands close to new started suddenly screamed out anyway supporting old are you okay so just kidding shortly and was just fine. At first she give you nuclear within a few seconds later she had a big smile and said with a chuckle. Nobody has ever done that to me before you, and allows printers and soaring community. Sometimes I can't help myself. At this point to a problem or cheap sewing machine last longer than the one quilters body for started was breaking down that Christmas my daughter Katie saying daughter love so much motivated me with her honesty back specialist, out of mind surprised me a sewing machine. The cheapest store I picked out.

This was much more advanced with minimal stitching options digital consumers usually use supercomputer until I could go on and on many others as well. Me 6'6" Paul Joseph Bauer maker quotes a nice ring to it and it is a badge of nowhere with pride anyway. Next, any new stranger was built like a middle linebacker rotate in your intro to break the ice and start a conversation rather than asking if you ever played football officials close matching your surprise if he responds with a resounding yes and he begins to describe diverse cultures made no Houstonian drawer board to spend cold winter evenings fancy sewing machine rather than the television special thanks to Greg Henwood for the production of the peace and thanks to Paul Bauer, a regular contributor in Minneapolis, Minnesota and my goodness the image of a 6 foot six gentlemen wandering around Joanne's for himself and probably alone is worth the price of that story. By way I admitted I love to honor all are in my clothes, my wife's close my wife's mother's close my daughter's close ally in the If it's possible the story of Paul Bowers showing passion millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and UnitedHealth care can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage. It can seem confusing, but it doesn't have to be UHC Medicare health.com to learn more United healthcare helping people live healthier lives.

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