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EP281: Invention of Time Zones, Paw Summers: Storyteller and My 48 Hours with Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly

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April 27, 2022 3:05 am

EP281: Invention of Time Zones, Paw Summers: Storyteller and My 48 Hours with Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly

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April 27, 2022 3:05 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, Greg Hengler tells us how time zones came to America. Dennis Peterson shares memories of his Appalachian storytelling grandfather. Steve Stoliar tells us how he met not one but two of Hollywood’s greatest dance legends while working for Dick Cavett.

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00:00 - Invention of Time Zones

12:30 - Paw Summers: Storyteller

25:00 - My 48 Hours with Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly

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Some of our favorite Is going to destroy how time zones came to America.

What time is it is a seemingly easy question, but depending on what time zone you live in time will be different. The development and spread of the railroads across United States in the 1800s brought a wave of changes to American life. It's a heroic chapter in American history. But the most interesting transformation is Lee Snow beach town in the United States had its own time. Depending on when the noonday sun was directly overhead here is American popular science author Steven Johnson like to train ride today to read a book, listen to music like 1870 take a train. Let's say traveling from New Haven to New York. I got on the train at 12 o'clock New Haven two hours to get to New York so we should be arriving in New York in New York time. That's technically 155, but the train were on running on on Boston time so that means pulling the station in New York on Boston time to 17 work like making a connection to a train to Baltimore that's running on Baltimore time so that train is leaving the station, which seems to be in the captain. How did the nation settle uniform time zone fill me think that the government brought order out of this chaos, but this is not the case.

It was the railroads that spearheaded the move to a time zone system because the varying times in different towns created hazards for traveling trains miscalculation of one minute, could mean a collision as the foundation for economic education. Pres. Lawrence Reed noted east-west travel was rough predicting the time a train would arrive in any particular stop was no small feat in the days before standard Time, fearing government intervention railroad managers, commissions, transportation, publisher William Frederick Allen to devise a simple plan. He proposed for time zones divided vertically 15° apart by lines called meridians.

Those meridians came close to hitting the cities of Philadelphia Memphis, Denver and Fresno in October 1883.

A general time convention held in Chicago set up by various railroads approved of noon November 18, 1893 is the date when railroad time replaced local time, the railroads didn't bother with legislation or with Congress Pierce historian Michael O'Malley, author of keeping watch history of American time, they just say were doing it and get on board they call it the day after that Railroad announced Sunday that noon on this day November 18 are just gonna stop all operations where the train is just a stop and it's going away however long it takes to catch up with what the new standard Time will and in cities. A city that agrees to go along with most of them do they stop the clocks or they suddenly move them ahead and in major cities in America. People get wind of this, they gather around the class wondering serve anxiously what's going to happen, you know, it's a puzzling thing this jokes that if you slip on a banana peel at the right moment will take 15 minutes to fall and that it happens on the people look at each other in a shrug and nothing much happens. Since these new time zones were a private undertaking. They had no force of law only railroad employees had to obey the new times, but in fact, people began to set their watches by railroad time and the change was widely accepted.

Some government officials were apparently annoyed that such a change could take place without their plane any serious role according to age. Stuart Holbrook in the story of American railroads, the traveling public and shipper to quickly fell in with the new time belt plan and naturally found it good, but Uncle Sam wasn't ready to admit the change was beneficial. A few days before November 18, the Atty. Gen. of the United States issued an order that no government department had a right to adopt railroad time until authorized by Congress. So when Congress authorized the change. 35 years later on March 19, 1918.

During World War I at this point Congress passed the standard Time act and made official what everyone else had put into practice time zones were now legally part of American life. Here again is Michael O'Malley was intended to change the nature of community before standard Time the time of day was what the local sun was doing. It was noon in your Valley. On the other side of the mountain. It was not quite, but several times. Everybody adopted put people in new forms of relationship to each other. So after a few days from Portland, Maine to Atlanta. Everybody's on Eastern time 8 o'clock in the morning means it o'clock in the morning, regardless of what the sun is doing you think of north-south as being one of the great divides of American life. This obliterates north-south it makes North and South the same. All along the eastern seaboard was before North and South were very different makes East and West. A more meaningful difference in the unites all Western region from Texas up to Minnesota in a single time so it does rearrange the current priorities for community today. Let's celebrate time zones by remembering the constitutional role of government to enforce laws and provide national defense. Beyond that free people can create solutions to a multitude of problems they did so in 1883 when they created time zones. I'm great handler and this is all American stories and a great job as always on the production by Greg Englert. The story of how time zones came to America here on our American stores. If you love the stories we tell about this great country and especially the stories of America's rich past. Know that all of our stories about American history from Lord innovation culture and faith are brought to us by the great folks at Hillsdale College place where students study all the things that are beautiful life all the things that are good in life. If you can't get the Hillsdale bills that will come to you with their freedom.

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Then we returned to our American stories of next story from our regular contributor Dennis Peterson Bennis is an author and historian who specializes in southern history today that it shares with us a story about his grandfather entitled Paul Summers story told in a way Dennis part of the southern Appalachian heritage is the skill of storytelling and whenever that topic arises in the conversation, my mind automatically returns to memories of Frederick Newman Summers Paul, as we grandchildren hold to me. He was the quintessential storyteller, a natural who probably never realized his own skill during all of my lifetime, and until his death in December 1972. Paul lived in the rocky hill country of the rural community of high school, Tennessee between Knoxville and Clinton but he moved around considerably during his 82 year lifetime. He had also held a variety of jobs before my time, he had been a will and a house even sold mentioned she is on the side and I'm sure that he enjoyed every minute of even if he never Paul was the proverbial Jack of all trades master of none, unless you count storytelling. He was an average student politics politicking as a precinct worker for innumerable elections. His yard always seem to have one or more campaign signs and also had some funny, at least locally. As a musician.

In fact, he and my grandmother met and fell in love at a rollicking barn dance at which he was playing and singing Carl being a distant relative and frequent performer at the now world-famous Museum of Appalachia, Noris, Tennessee remembered recording because singing the name song which mentions about every name imaginable. I faintly remember Paul's playing is tar and singing that song and a lot of other humorous balance, but more clearly recall his singing old-fashioned hands for years. He lives singing and little Mount Harmony Baptist Church of high school. There at his funeral. The mourner saying his favorite hymn when I've gone the last mile of the way. Before we laid him to rest in the family plot in the cemetery behind the rock clapboard church. Perhaps it was his breadth of experience is length and variety of life that providing grist story mill. Many of his stories involved himself. Others were about people he had known or had worked with her for some of his stories were renditions of stories he had heard others tell, but always with his own interpretations and embellishments thrown in to give them a homey personal flavor as a kid I used to sit with him on his blue painted wooden porch on many warm afternoons, staring out across raccoon Valley Road toward the southern railroad tracks and listen to him tell stories to whoever would listen. He said in a homemade rocking chair that was held together by innumerable layers of paint and stared off into the distance rather than looking at me. Whoever else might be happening by for a visit. As he spun his titles. He was perpetually moving incessantly tapping his foot on the porch planks. Occasionally he patted the wide arm of the rocker with his hand for emphasis. Sometimes his feet as though moved by an uncontrollable urge burst forth with energy tapping out a brief but lively but dance routine when the urge for motion had apparently been satisfied. His feet got still for a while and occasional car often passed and Paula threw up his hand in a friendly way. Who was that Paul I would ask all that was so and so he respond he knew more people and more people knew him that I've even met saying the person who had just passed reminded him of the story and off he went with another tale infrequently. Someone who didn't know pass to my query about who it was. Paul usually responded. I don't know you must be from off somewhere else Paul dropped out of school in fourth grade we were working on short division explained to me one day and the teacher said that tomorrow we would start on long division, took one look at those problems and never went back. In spite of his limited formal education.

Paul was an intelligent man. He read a lot and had a vocabulary that surprised me as a college student on the end table beside his chair, which set behind the front door of his house was always a magazine or two. The Knoxville Journal, perhaps a copy of the watchdog grocer politician Kuhn Hunter cares Walkers political scandal sheet and a big worn Bible. Although Paul probably never read Mark Twain's instructions on how to tell a good story effectively.

He was an expert at doing exactly what point advised Mark Twain, made a big deal out of insignificant minor details and stories. For example, during the story he would worry over what day of the week. The event about which he was telling actually happened. What the weather had been that day year. It was whether the event had happened, and Clinton or in Kingsport or on Chestnut Ridge beside Bull Run Creek, Pequot, often diverged innumerable times during the story, burying stories within stories, but finally finding his way back to complete the original story just when listeners were beginning to think he had lost his way entirely. Yet he somehow always lift his listeners wanting to hear more or he would use the just finished story as a springboard into the next story. Invariably, a train would come through during one of Paul's stories. He stopped his story in midsentence and rocks, silently amid the rumble of the diesel locomotives and the click lack of iron wheels on Shawnee rails counting the freight cars as they went by when the caboose had passed from view down the track. He picked up right where he had left off.

Without missing so much as a word sometimes nanny was sitting with us, she too sometimes entered into Paul storytelling usually to argue with him over one of the many insignificant details of the story, sometimes discerning the story that Paul was about to tell Justus he began it declared Lord Fred you know better than to tell that because he knew so many people. Paul had a lot of visitors, especially on Sunday afternoons. I suspect that many of those visitors came not so much to talk to Paul as to listen to him tell stories. I think that he was totally unaware of his own storytelling prowess.

He was just being himself. Perhaps that is what the very quality that makes Appalachian storytellers unique plot Paul. They just do what comes natural. Storytelling is an important way in which my generation, and countless ones before it learned of its heritage and it is a part of our heritage that must be preserved and foster a skill that must be passed on to our children and their children for generations to come.

And a great job on the production by Monty Montgomery and special thanks to Dennis Peterson. Check out Dennis's website Dennis L. Peterson.com Frederick Newman Summers a.k.a. well driller, house painter, shoe salesman thing her songs and teller of stories. The story of Paul here on our American story millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment.

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He doesn't seem as if he would've come from middle America like that because he's you know known for the top hat and white tie entails, but in fact he's one of those erudite fellows that came from Nebraska, along with Johnny Carson and Dick have Marlon Brando in a number of other people, I would've given anything to be able to meet him and in fact when I was working at Universal Studios in the late 70s after Groucho died I got a job working in the steno pool from 11 AM to 8 PM every day and I would be typing episodes of the Rockford files and Kojak and barrette so on. But I loved working at universal because on lunch breaks, or before or after work.

I could go wandering around the you know there wasn't much security at the time.

It isn't like now. Plus I was an employee and I was always nosing around because of the history of the place. I love the universal horror films and all that stuff classics by Matt Godfrey. So I would keep track of who was guest starring on different shows and if they were filming on the lot and if I was lucky. Sometimes I would be able to cross paths with them and then of all the unlikely things I found out that Fred Astaire was going to be guest starring on Battle Star Galactica. Apparently his grandson. His favorite TV show was Battle Star Galactica. He said grandpa will you be on that would be cool and so Astaire figuring like I can't deny my own grandson request that so he got in touch with the producers and they wrote apart for him where he played Dirk Benedict's ConMan father on a lunch break. I wandered over to the set and I watched him shoot a scene inside the spacecraft and then during the break.

He was just sauntering around the soundstage with his hands in his pockets, and I happened to have with me and original still of him in swing time 1936 film and so I went over and introduced myself and I said I just I want to thank you for all of the magical moments from flying down to Rio to a family upside down and everything in between family upside down was a TV movie he had just done costarring opposite Helen Hayes.

So at the time that was sort of like thanking him for his whole film and he said oh well, my thank you and he was happy to sign my photo and so for one brief, shining moment I got to meet you know one of my all time heroes so that was in 78 in 1983. Five years later, I had moved to New York the previous year to write for Dick Cavett whom I met through Mike Groucho connection and who hired me away from universal to write for him at HBO on a short-lived show called HBO magazine, but then I continued to live in New York and right for Cavett and other things Astaire and Gene Kelly had both been honored by the Kennedy Center PC edited down specials on TV where they have someone from dance and music and literature and they salute them in the Kennedy Center had a policy where after you've been saluted they would appreciate it if you would sit down for an interview not to be released or broadcast but just put their library for the Kennedy Center's official library to have that for to be able to access. So Astaire said that would be fine with him, but only if Dick Cavett does the interview because he had had good experiences when Cavett had his ABC show, and he felt comfortable conversing with him. I was friends with in writing for Cavett and he knew what the Astaire fanatic. I was as was he. And the Kennedy Center sent Cavett the list of questions they wanted him to ask and luckily he gave those to be to rework because they were asking thesis questions on no compare and contrast the development of tap is an art form from the Irish clod through vaudeville and the influence of the African-American experience and I knew from previous experience that Astaire is a tough interview subject and he hates analyzing his art. He is very much he was very much a I just do it kind of guy. So what I did was I very carefully chopped up their essay questions into more conversational rights so that Cavett could ask him and get information yet his answer on how a certain sequence happened. The dance director Hermes Pan would come up with an idea I'd try it out in front of the mirror sure that would be how he would discuss how the dance step came to be Kelly because he was a director and choreographer Kelly was the opposite. If you said hi, Gene Kelly would say dance is a three dimensional medium and film is a two-dimensional medium. So as a director or choreographer, you have to take in that distinction and frame damage such that the two dimension he gave those counted dissertation answer at first there was just short great let's do it with doesn't make for you.

No compelling listening. I flew out to LA with Cavett to interview both Astaire and Kelly. We were in the limousine. I was in the front seat with the shofar, which is just as well because I tended to get nauseated sitting in the back a limousine. We stopped by Astaire's house on San Jacinto Row in Beverly Hills.

He got in the car and the stair looked at me and he said, have we work together before you look familiar. And I don't know whether he was confusing me with someone else or if he really did remember from when I met him on the set of Galactica so on the way to the studio.

I'm listening to Cavett and Astaire talking and Astaire said Dick did you look over these questions and I'm thinking he he he he he and Astaire said some of them are asinine. What was I doing in vaudeville I'm in for heaven sakes. That was 50 years ago. It's ridiculous and I'm, you know, mentally slinking down in the front seat thinking of God. You should only know what these questions were like before I made them sanitized for your easy digestion and you been listening to Steve Steuer talk about his brush with greatness again when we come back more of the story of Fred Astaire and Steve Stoler dear on our American store millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage. It can seem confusing, but it doesn't have to be this@uhcmedicarehealthplans.com to learn more United healthcare helping people live healthier lives. I know everything about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my State Farm agent make sure my business days: incompetent business owners to help you pass.

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They had him going to the makeup room first before Cavett to get ready for the camera.

So then he came out in makeup and then it was Cavett's turn, and the director said to me when you sit down with Fred and talk to him until Dick is ready, and I thought oh dear Ye sure I the next thing I knew I was sitting in the director's chair next to Astaire and his directors chair and trying to make pleasant conversation with someone who had just torn apart the questions I had carefully crafted and who was, you know, notoriously difficult to draw out but one of the things I brought up was this was an 83.

It was the same year that the musical my one and only had opened on Broadway and I'd seen that with Tommy tune and Twinkie and honey calls and it was basically a loose reworking of the Gershwin show funny face which Fred and his sister Adele had started in 1927 and I loved it and I felt like seeing Tommy to do some of those intricate Numbers was as close as I was going to get to seeing Astaire dance and I mentioned that even though the show was filled with a lot of standards.

The song my one and only was was semi-obscure but I knew it because I had a record of Astaire and Adele singing that from funny face and I said so it's interesting because now that song is getting well known by the average public because of this new Broadway show. So we started talking about new releases of classic songs and we got around to putting on the Ritz and he he mentioned he said last year that was that version by that German fellow and I must say I didn't care for the German fellow was a guy named Paco and it was sort of a synthesized mechanized version of putting on the Ritz that got a lot of airplay in 1982, but Astaire said the way he does. It is just boom boom putting on the Ritz boom boom putting on the Ritz. I didn't care for it. He said now when Irving wrote it, meaning Berlin. He wrote it like this, and Astaire started tapping his foot……………… And I'm thinking Fred Astaire is tapping and singing put in on the Ritz. To me, only me this special moment just from me and I would say dancing as fast as I could verbally to keep him occupied until Cavett came out but it ended up being this wonderful little pocket of conversation and then Cavett came out and they started taping and actually between my having cut the questions up and Cavett's brilliance as an interviewer and conversationalist. He was able to draw Fred Astaire out in that interview and actually got him to talk about a lot of things that were essentially things that I had wondered about that.

I would've asked Fred Astaire if I ever had the chance. So I put them through Dick Cavett's mouth and he ended up you know at one point he said something like gosh, stick your you're making me remember things I hadn't thought about it 40 years which I took is very gratifying because it was unlocking some of these old memories. One of my questions was did he ever have and understood because you think about Broadway shows, and how unique Astaire was was there someone who if he was sick would've gone on in the way Cavett asked.

It was he said. For instance, if you were under the weather.

Did the manager come out before the show and say we're very sorry Mr. Astaire can't be here tonight.

Instead, please enjoy the Leonard crunch that was the name he came up with on the spot. Leonard crunch and Astaire said oh no I never had to study II just no matter what you just went on it was that kind of that mentality and he said I remember one time in London I had a boil. Remove from my from my head and the doctor bandaged it, but I still went on that night and I had my top hat and in this bandaged head and that nobody explained anything and I guess the people in the audience was thinking, oh, I suppose the old fellow broke his skull little something and every time I put the top hat back on top of my head hurt. But you know you just went on. So it turned into this really fascinating conversation. I mean Astaire was in his mid 80s at the time and just beginning to slow down a bit and he wasn't as lively as he was on the ABC. Cavett shows and that you know there was no audience. There was no band.

It was just this conversation, then the following day we went over to Jean Kelly's house and he was the absolute opposite.

Because he was able to dissect income at his films, and the dance sequences in the combination of ballet and tap in the athleticism and the choreography because I had researched him when I was in New York HBO at the time was located in the Time life building so I had access to time and life magazines. Archives and they they would have bulging manila folder files with stretched out rubber bands trying to keep them from exploding and inside would be old clippings and old photos and stuff you know it was like a morgue of of old newspaper and photographic things from previous stories. This was, you know, I hasten to add before Google so you could just go to IMDb or Wikipedia or something, but I had this rare Access and in the file for Gene Kelly was a story about when he was working on 1940 20 cover girl with Rita Hayward. The music was by Jerome Kern. So there was one new story that said that after filming was completed. Jerome Kern presented Gene Kelly with the silver plate and that was engraved to GK from JK in honor of cover girl and so after Cavett finished interviewing Gene Kelly, I thought this'll floor him that I know this bit of trivia and so I said, do you still have that plate that Jerome Kern gave you after cover girl and I expected in the laugh or something and instead he's got this scowl on his face and he said where did you hear about that was stolen from me some years back I and and I've never seen that there was at the theft of my house. How do you know about that and all of a sudden I was like you know sitting in a chair with Cox going over me with 3rd° and a bright light and I said I was in your file at the time.

Life for archive thing and ID and I think he was placated but it was a strange note to end on because I don't know that he ever completely got over that trace of suspicion that the think the one thing I brought up that I thought would put a smile on his face instead triggered his Irish anger, but it was still a great afternoon to be sitting at the feet of Gene Kelly in listening to him talk about career and only one day after spending the afternoon with Fred Astaire.

So I had in one visit back to LA from New York. I had managed to spend time with two of obviously two of the greatest dancers that have ever appeared on film and great job as always by rubbing on the production and everything else. It's a terrific story and Steve Stoler, my goodness, what a great storyteller. You stole your story is to brushes with greatness here on our American story millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage.

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