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Send them our American stories.com. Some of our favorites up next story from the Atlanta history Center, a great username where you can see exhibits massive psychodrama painting in a locomotive with a truly unique story Texas built four years before Lincoln was elected locomotive is best known today as the principal pursuit engine in the great locomotive Chase, which occurred after union spies stole her running mate.

The general the story goes far deeper than that.

Is Jackson recorded VP of properties at the Atlanta history Center with the story I was born into it, but I have been a fan of railroads and interested in railroads pretty much all my life something that I shared with my dad and growing up in Tampa Florida with deep roots in Atlantis history was always of interest and I think that you know about age of like 14 I was volunteering for the railroad museum scraping paint, doing all the things that you want to do now and just always been fascinated by trained and it is just absolutely one of the most fascinating technologies I think I'm interested in it because you know I travel is such a fun thing.

There's no better way to go than traveling by train to visit with friends and have a drink, have a meal look out the window and get on the sleeping car and see that the rules go by overnight. I just think there's nothing better in this very second person. Many say Savannah is essentially over Atlanta is only about the same age as Los Angeles. It's a very new city so a surveyor for the Western and Atlantic Railroad drove a stake in the ground, surveyor, state, and about where State Farm arena.

Atlanta didn't exist and Atlanta gradually became a railroad land taxes to Chicago this out so the locomotive taxes to locomotives left from the Western railroad. Atlanta owes its existence to think about that for us tangible links to the city's past. Really land is a city that likes the redevelopment so Sherman burned and also suffered a cataclysmic fire development has really changed the way Atlanta has looked at time and time again, this locomotive like it sister the general date back to the 1850s. This is unusual for the boss likes to say the Romulus and Remus. I think that's a great soundbite right but the locomotive was one of the two participants in the great locomotive Chase say similar incident of some note in the certainly a lot of coverage.

Chase involved locomotive car running 2 miles and you name it, it's really an interesting story during 1862, April 1862 as a matter of fact there were a group of union spies that had made it behind Confederate lines in the effort was to the Western Atlantic Railroad in order to take Nashville and if you could cut Nashville off from the rest of us out Chattanooga as well. They made made a behind the lines of the veterans dressed in civilian clothes got on a train. Atlanta got to what was called big Sandy those days everybody got off the train and in that case breakfast club card but he marries and stuff in it that so that the last ones left on the train buddies eating breakfast at the Lacey hotel and their opportunity to steal the locomotive general and had no and forehead Track telegraph lines and really put a severe cramp into the confederacies but didn't count on was that the crew general decided to give chase to these guys try to catch the general motive. The pursuers Capt. William Fuller and others wound up finding the Texas found that it had a good head of steam and it had enough.

It could be wrong to chase after the general decided that I would extract speeds 15 miles an hour and puts 250.

Let's do it in reverse attracted a good industrial siding by today standards.

This is really minimally relevant. That's the must've been a frightening Orion. I'm really glad that I was on it reflects a lack of caution and only somebody pretty useful and pretty motive that I what I finally the pursuers wound up catching the raters led by James J Andrews raters 60s band and have it so they caught them, captured them somewhere hanging Andrews saying here in Atlanta and the pursuers were celebrated as heroes of the time because that was one where the South 11 and so as a result it became the famous locomotive caught up to the general and achieved a degree of fame just because it was the one one Chase and you been listening to Jackson McQuade telling stories about the thing he loves most and so many Americans do always. This country is been fascinated with train travel when we come back more Jackson stories and more about trains in the great locomotive Chase on our American stores view of the great American stories we tell and love America like we do, or asking you to become a part of the American stories family. If you agree that America is a good and great country. Please make a donation monthly gift of $17.76 is fast becoming a favorite option for supporters to allow American stories.com now and go to the donate button and help us keep the great American stories coming that's out American stories.com Tory Johnny went to one teapot cast we have such a special brought to you by near attack ODT we recorded at and Windows. Hanging down near attack ODT were not to plant 75 mg can help migraine sufferers still such an exciting event like window tango. I took minor tech PT. I was present amazing time. Our conversation with some of our closest friend is brought to you by near attack ODT were meant to plant 75 mg life with migraine attacks can mean missing out on big moments with friends and family, but thankfully no attack ODT were magic 75 mg is the only medication that is proven to treat a migraine attack and prevent episodic migraines else sell like window tango town have to be next to millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7.

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State Farm is in your corner and on neighbor call your local State Farm agent for quote today return to our American stories and the story of local motive, Texas last left off Jackson McQuade telling us about the famous Chase during the Civil War. Texas participated in is the main person local motive, but there's a lot more to the story than just that. Dennis Jackson with the rest of the store after the great Jason went up in Virginia as it was a salt mine up there was time for refrigeration so it was actually captured and briefly used by US military for free time. The Texas wound up being cut up scrap the number of times and it certainly was very near band medications like the general which is motive participated in the case which was present in the 1880s was the one that was seen as the one that needed to be preserved and worn out locomotive line 1900 late 1890s and historian Mark Brainard of Chattanooga found that there was this fellow is say master mechanics. In other words, the guy in charge of the Rathaus here in Atlanta for the lack say no and history of the Texas was a lot of interest in preserving make sure that it never wound up on a retirement roster that he kept busy actually been told many times detected as this is trying to keep 1940. On appeal, chicken around 2021 test. There is no logical reason local motive should still be on the roster and seeing St. Allen 1900 wound up in a scenario like that with square it was again looking like scrap currents later become known as the technical advisor gone with the land that interesting character all the way around and he was pretty much consumed with this great locomotive Chase to the point where he married the daughter of one of the southern pursuers, we began a campaign actually resulted in the saving of the Texas when I say campaign timing letters to the grassroots effort to get the look preserved, in part because the general had been preserved. This veterans group the grand Army of the Republic Union soldiers help to see that I got preserved. The Texas had no such love. So one of the Hearst newspapers Atlanta Atlanta Georgia campaign right alongside Wilbur Kurtz encourage people to Atlantis to send in their nickel and dime contributions to help preserve the Texas all this time it's sitting at the yard when they get scrapped now and that after Wally created a lot of interest was not successful so the whole way locomotive close.

It's very preservation not to that effort held by a group of women got together and found great interest in saving love. They call themselves the ladies of Atlanta and it was an ad hoc group effectively went to the president of the incense in our railway and said this is the city of preserve course.

How could he disagree with the ladies of Atlanta. He agreed six years to get it to Grant Park where it was finally put under on display in the park starts at the park in 1927 the locomotive was actually put into the same building as psychodrama Grant Park locomotive in 2015 and it had been there so long. It was literally in a basement behind a 1970s constructed theater where he saw the photo of the intro film about what the psychodrama lies so we had to extricate the locomotive out of that building by running it through a movie theater which I think is a first and a movie theater was underground so to dig down to get to truly find bizarre day. We took the letter out Grant Park psychodrama billing put it on a truck shifted up to the North Carolina transportation Museum in Spencer where I used to work really got into seeing what was there.

We found out wasn't a lot of original Texas.

There, the tender was from a different love, the frame was only half from the original Texas Was different.

The boiler was different. The wheels were different. The cylinders were different in effect, balance different name it and it was from another locomotive that selectively half-year. Well found out that the stand frame that actually holds the bell on the locomotive that was for me but felt liberated to tell stories about the locomotive's history. And since the great locomotive Chase stories told in so many places we want to tell about your contacts about railroads and being developers where it's being city shapers where it's being our lifeblood Atlanta this day.

By the way, the decision that we may after determining that the Texas contain a lot of parts rent from engines that weren't Texas we decided to painted in its 18 $86 and that was indeed controversial. One of my friends react poorly to the decision, saw a picture on Facebook of the engine just after painting examine North Carolina and post set out a lot of explaining to this friend of mine choose me of childhood and that's a direct quote was my response was most childhood, you know, I mean it's that was most significant thing that occurred in but what we say to folks that are maybe a little concerned that it doesn't look like it did in Civil War years doesn't have the paint was on three pursuing locomotive Chase is gone. The Texas got and at various points like discussing has been all but forgotten through 2015.

It was it was behind the glass was this don't touch artifact. You can go on the You really didn't get to understand too much about its history forgotten.

It was just hard to relate and you know I'm a museum guy and his folks well just really into light having visitors come standard distant sometimes for the office but no Texas is durable and experience a actually get in the cab. Consumers like little by today's standards. I think people really understand history and the fact that you can do that in 1856 Scott Paul is waiting for all there are a couple of families again.

No capital. I think that they just have the ability to stand where history and take place no doubt when people can interact with the nation's history and a special thanks to Monty for that piece and bumping into that story in his travels around the country, with probably the two trips together naturally discovered Jackson McQuade and he is vice president of properties of the Atlanta Street where they are keeping alive stories about this great Southern sitting Jackson the quick story of the locomotive Texas on our American story. Tory went to what we have such a special brought to you by near attack ODT. We recorded it and Windows hanging out near attack ODT were not to plant 75 mg can help migraine sufferers still such an exciting event like window tango. I took minor tech PT.

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I need my State Farm agent and company help. State Farm is in your corner and on neighbor call your local State Farm agent for quote today. This is an old American stories in our next story of American history is the story of Aaron Burr. You know him, perhaps from your high school American history classes. What little you may remember from them, or maybe from the Broadway musical Hamilton was Aaron Burr. Well break is here to tell us a little bit more about the often reviled politician is Bill Manuel and his extraordinary Hamilton and American musical brilliantly captures Aaron Burr in three lines free advice. He has been offered to Alexander Hamilton when they first meet. In 1776, talk less, smile more. Don't let them know what you are against your four twilight on June 7, 1812 56-year-old man returned from six years self-imposed European exile New York somewhere near today's South St., Seaport. He hastened to a friends house at 66 Water St., only to find no one at home only around midnight to define the room already occupied by five other men in a plane house along the dark alley in the morning, he returned to find his friend Samuel sort out at home and after an affectionate welcome. This would help brothers lodged the charm that had borne Barack throughout his life remain potent boyhood friend and longtime political opponent Robert $10 in the law library then $10 was real money is now a law library is essential to one's practice. He rented space at 9 Nassau St. he took out some newspaper advertisements. He ordered a small tin sign brightly lacquered bearing his name and tacked to the outside wall. When he arrived open his office on the morning of July 5, 1812, a line of clients awaited him.

Hundreds more would follow within 12 days, his receipts totaled what was then a staggering $2000. However, the inhabitants of New York viewed the man Lomas Grote. They had not forgotten the skills of the advocate Aaron Burr former colonel in the Army of the revolution, former Atty. Gen. of New York, former United States Sen. and former vice president of the United States using the practice of law. He had been born February 6, 1756 in Newark, New Jersey and Princeton in the sophomore class of 13 took his degree with distinction at 16 and even spoken commencement was elegant from youth small, slender, broad shoulders and handsome yet fine taste in clothes, to which dozens of unpaid tailors on two continents would attest his manners were exquisite is conversation never called, and whether in the courtroom or the Senate. He spoke quietly and conversationally without bombast or literary allusion. He strove to see things as they are not as they want to be possessed a massive set of one dexterity enough to conceal the truth without telling a lot sagacity enough to read other people's countenances and serenity enough not to let them discover anything but also throughout his life, much pursued by women and they never had one very far or very fast he fought for American independence of Québec, Brooklyn and Morningside Heights.

He was a Lieut. Col. at 22 wintered in Valley Forge and had a horse shot from under him at Monmouth on June 28, 1778. That means going on in harm's way for he might've been hit by the shot that killed his charge only one who is been thrown from a horse can understand what that means. The pains of having the wind knocked out of me with not muscle sprain and bones broken the man of pleasure one single-handedly suppressed mutiny in his regiment ringleader leveled his musket shouting now is the time my brave boys the last syllable rarely left his lips when Burr soared severed the man's arm just above the elbow regiment knew no more mutinies. During his service, he met you nosy a pre-post, the wife of a British officer serving in the West Indies.

Burr later wrote that she possessed the truest heart.

The ripest conflict in the most willing manners of any woman he had ever met.

She spoke French fluently frequently quoted the Latin poets and read avidly admired and wanted. She responded with warmth and friendship. Her husband died in 1781.

She married Bertha following year, nothing. So, testifies to the Provost's character, charm and intelligence than that sensual cynical man. Once throughout their marriage. Her loving and faithful husband for the borough was a feminist instinct. He admired Mary Wollstonecraft's vindication of the rights of women in The print of Mrs. Wilson crafts portrait on his wall, his marriage made those beliefs heartfelt. He was among the first practical politicians was nothing if not practical work for women's education on a par with men.

It was a knowledge of your mind which first inspired me the ideas.

Would you have often heard me express in favor of female electrical powers founded on what I have seen in you.

She died in 1794, after 12 years of marriage.

He never ceased to mourn her.

Perhaps the relationship was the noblest achievement of his life in Hamilton. Burroughs asked if you stand for nothing bar. What will you fall for clearly at least in his love for Theodosia and his passion for human rights for something in 1782, was admitted to the New York bar at the age of 26 was elected to the legislature in 1784 28 fought to abolish slavery appointed Atty. Gen. in 1789, when he was three. In 1791, he defeated Philip Schuyler, father-in-law of Alexander Hamilton for the United States Senate unless the feud between Hamilton and the new senator worked hard without taking politics seriously.

For him it was the pursuit of fun and honor and profit.

This earned him the antipathy of Thomas Jefferson, who took politics almost as seriously as he himself to be fair. Perhaps that is not entirely true. We know Jefferson had red hair, in part because he preserved a letter addressed to him as redheaded. Some of the Virginian and bird needed one another. Birth control the country's first mass party organization Society of St. Tammany.

Thomas Jefferson was the Democrats first ideologue Burke was their first mechanic in 1800, the Jeffersonians nominated Sen. Byrd for vice president and his troubles began. Presidential electors then voted for two candidates without specifying a preference for Pres. and for vice president candidate receiving the most votes became president. The second place Became vice president Jefferson number with 73 votes each. The election went to the House of Representatives Federalists detested Jefferson sought to look borough. Instead, after 36 pallets. The house finally elected Jefferson Pres. and Burr VP. There is no evidence that had plotted Federalists to win the presidency.

Nonetheless, Jefferson always had a slight touch of paranoia froze him out and withheld patronage from his followers, and you're listening to the remarkable story of Aaron Burr. My goodness, Princeton at 13 and we often talk about the fact that boy in earlier days people grew up faster and maybe it wasn't a bad thing in my goodness, knowing the sting of battle which Ehrenberg did no and 22 of the tenant Col. wintered in Valley Forge his horse were shot out from underneath him in the battle of Monmouth, New Jersey. My goodness.

The man knew battle politics and new love. When we come back more of the story of Hamilton's chief telling his side. Ehrenberg L American store Tory. We have such a special brought to you by near attack ODT we recorded at radiused windows hanging out near attack ODT were not to plant 75 mg can help migraine sufferers still such an exciting event like window tango. I took minor tech PT. I was present amazing time of our conversation with some of our closest friends & was brought to you by near attack ODT were meant to plant 75 mg life with migraine attacks can be missing out on big moments with friends and family, but only near attack ODT were not to plant 75 mg is the only medication that is proven to treat a migraine attack and prevent episodic migraines else sell like window tango town have to be next to millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7.

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State Farm is in your corner and on neighbor call your local State Farm agent for quote today and were back with our American stories and the story of Ehrenberg when we last left off with Bill Bright after being elected Pres. Thomas Jefferson froze Burr and his constituents out. We returned to Bill Bright with the rest of the story. In April 1804 Byrd knowing Jefferson would not allow his renomination. Later that year ran for governor of New York and had come to Hafer and Hamilton's rage was reflected in his intensely personal campaign, which included indiscreet personal remarks reported in the newspaper bar was heavily seized upon correspondence published in Albany register Dr. Charles Cooper wrote general Hamilton and Judge Kent have declared in substance that they looked upon Mr. Byrd to be a dangerous man and I could detail to you a still more despicable opinion which general Hamilton has expressed over requested an acknowledgment for denial of the still more despicable opinion of themselves attributed to Hamilton. Two days later, Helton replied with a lengthy dissertation on the meaning of despicable Burr responded the common sense of mankind fixed to word the idea of dishonor and demanded Hamilton generally disavow any intention to convey impressions derogatory to the honor of Mr. Burke was trapped. This would have meant denying a great deal of his political conversations, speeches and correspondence over two decades, Hamilton now feebly offered that he could not recall using any term that would justify Dr. Cooper's construction bar again commanded a disclaimer. Hamilton refused on June 27, 1804 Byrd challenged in Hamilton except on Wednesday, July 11, 1804 at 7 AM. The two men stood 10 paces apart on the Weehawken shore, New Jersey pistols and hand. Hamilton perhaps a second before his opponent fired into the air.

Burr shot true. He was indicted for murder in New York and New Jersey, while his lawyers and friends worked to quash the indictments returned to Washington DC where he resumed his duties as vice president on March 2, 1805. His last day in public office rose from the chair he stood before a hall of professional politicians familiar with every rhetorical device. Many of without changing his customary conversational tone spoke briefly of the United States and the Senate itself Senate.

He said, is a sanctuary submittal law of order and delivered and it is here. It is here in this exalted refuge here anywhere will resistance be made to the storms of political frenzy in the silent parts of corruption and if the Constitution be destined ever to perish by the sacrilegious hands of the demagogue or the usurper, which got overt expiring agonies will be witnessed on this floor.

Then, having spoken forms from the heart. He stepped down, walked across the chamber and went out the door. He was only 49 years old behind him.

The Senate sat in silence. Sen. Samuel Mitchell of New York wrote my colleague general Smith stout and manly as he is, what is profusely. As I did, he did not recover from quarter before leaving office. Burr had begun a conspiracy precisely what her plan remains a mystery puzzle a lock without a key told his first biographer, Matthew L. Davis the scheme he called was intended to revolutionize Mexico and settle some lands he had in Texas perhaps was legends remain in the papers tantalize the maps of New Orleans, Veracruz, and the roads to Mexico City in the correspondence hinting he would not liberate but sees Mexico draw the Western states from the union and combining them into one nation stand the throne of the Aztecs and crowned himself Emperor of the West gods, invite us to glory and fortune are wrote to his co-conspirator, Gen. James Wilkinson in general in chief of the United States Army John Randolph of Roanoke most ferocious of politicians called Wilkinson the mammoth, the only man I ever saw was from the box to the very core of Wilkinson self designed uniforms and crust gold braided rug and failed to conceal his enormous girth he was, as we now know a paid agent of Spain, a man on the take.

At some point Wilkinson ratted out Burger Jefferson on November 27, 1806, Jefferson issued a proclamation that led to the collapse of the plot. Byrd's arrest Amber's indictment for treason by levying war against the United States. Wilkinson was not the subject of prosecution that we now know that Jefferson to new Wilkinson was taking money from the Spanish. Perhaps Wilkinson knew too much in an age, not yet. So cool was to eliminate those who knew too much, was tried in Richmond Virginia before Chief Justice John Marshall Jefferson's third cousin. The cousins detested one another. The prosecutor insinuated that Marshall would be impeached if he did not rule for the prosecution on the evidentiary motions. Marshall noted the threat in his decision. He also noted the Constitution requires treason to be proven by the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of treason.

Of the dozens of witnesses presented by the government. None had testified to an overt act. Marshall then excluded all evidence presented by the government is merely corroborative and incompetent within 25 minutes.

The jury found Burr not guilty now in a self-imposed exercise of discretion were left for Europe. At first birth sought financial support for next from the British and then the French. Nothing came of it from the exiles beginning Burr recorded his experiences in his private journal. Perhaps the saddest revelations are that this vital charming man was so easily bored.

Yet, as will mask rights. There was a limit to how many parties he could attend how many ceremonies he could watch how many books he could read how many bright and articulate people draw within the radiant circle of his charm, he devoted his energies to fornication with prostitutes is necessary, and other women when possible will mask notes. He described his amatory encounters as use French hunting term meaning the beginning of the running season in animals suggests that he despised himself for treating sex in this way, some principles remained uncompromised despite boredom and the lack of money he never descended to drinking cheap wine. After his return to the United States. He only dabbled in politics in 1812.

He was pulling strings from an unknown man in the West named Andrew Jackson who will do credit to a commission in the army is conferred upon when Jackson became president in 1829 Samuel sort out whose hospitality Burr had enjoyed on his return from exile, was appointed collector of the Port of New York for his help is MR Warner relates in his history of Tammany Hall sort out later hurried to Europe when his account showed that he had borrowed from the government spawns the sum of $1,225,705.69 the public with their charming levity that has always characterized its attitude toward wholesale plunder made the best of a bad situation by coining a new term when a man put the governments money into his own pocket. It was said that sort out in 1833 Burger married Eliza Jamel. Perhaps the richest American woman of the time she had after what may have been the most successful career of her age as shall we say a working girl, married an extremely wealthy man. By the time she married Burr. Jamel was a widow probably married her for money within the year she began divorce proceedings on the grounds of adultery are remarkable, even heartening accusation against a man of 78 on September 14, 1836, the day on which decree of divorce from Mme. Jamel was entered by the court. Ehrenberg died in a second-floor room to 040 Richmond Ter. in Port Richmond, Staten Island.

Two days later he was buried beside his father and grandfather in Princeton, New Jersey will mask wrote for nearly 20 years, the grave went unmarked than a relative arrange for the installation of a simple marble slab in 1995, the Ehrenberg Association placed a bronze plaque on the grave that recites his services to the Republic and great job on that by rubbing our producer and Bill Bright Ehrenberg story here now, Americans sue millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65.

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