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Batman Through the Years and What My Dad Meant By "Makin' Do"

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Batman Through the Years and What My Dad Meant By "Makin' Do"

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June 20, 2022 3:05 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, Andrew Farago, curator at the Cartoon Art Museum and author of Batman: The Definitive History of the Dark Knight in Comics, Film, and Beyond tells us the story of Batman. Dennis Peterson shares how his father's motto of, "Making Do" meant going to extreme lengths to save a dime...sometimes to his detriment.

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This is Lee Habib and this is our American stories to show where America is the star and the American people nowadays Batman is a household name is list of comic issues, let alone live action movies, animated films and TV shows, video games, you name it. Well it's nothing short of astounding. But this wasn't always the case today. Andrew Fargo curator at the cartoon Art Museum and author of Batman the definitive history of the dark Knight and comics film and beyond is here to tell us the story of the dark Knight is a peasant appropriate for a character's secret identity as a millionaire and later a billionaire money was kind of the driving force behind Batman at the beginning so is struggling and fairly undistinguished cartoonist named Bob Kane was working for national periodical publications doing funny animal comics. He was doing adventure comics.

He was doing anything he could to try to make a name for himself trying to just make a living and he heard that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster who were the prayers of Superman were making a really nice living hundred dollars a week just out of the Great Depression tail and the Great Depression from their creation. He talked to his editor and editor said that you bring bring another Superman and could have for you and he said he now bounded over weekend basically went home and try to come up with his version of Superman and initially the character he came up with was really nothing like the Batman that we all know you look more like a circus acrobat with the domino mask blonde hair. Leonardo da Vinci inspired lack batwing cape is possibly flying superhero. Thankfully, Kane was in touch with very talented, very inventive writer named Bill finger and Bill finger saw the raw potential there. He took Cain's ideas. He refined that he gave Batman the Capon towel and outfit really close to what we need to know and love today. Yet he took Cain's concepts and turned it in the something that's 80 years later still energizes and excites fans everywhere. Batman made his debut and the publication called Detective comics and Detective very much fun out of the pulp magazines that have proceeded so they were raw energy.

Dark stories, the good guys were very good, the bad guys were very bad bad guys often meant very gruesome fates and Detective comics as the title indicates every month had detective stories and Batman. The earliest stories and then actually throughout his history. You know they have been detective stories.

He's one of the people who claims the title the world's greatest detective sleep story had to have at least some hint of a mystery to justify Batman's inclusion. The early Batman comics did have stories like that, they did have mysteries involving political corruption and gangsters kind of stories one would say were ripped from the headlines and prior to that it had been police officers that had been private investigators a lot of square jaw guys wearing suits, punching gangsters on the cover so obviously Batman wearing his incredibly dark costume swooping out of the night sky grabbing criminals, energized audiences the same way that Superman the year before. Really energize readers and very soon. Batman became a staple. Every month in that magazine and Detective comics circulation went through the roof and was awarded his own solo magazine in the late 30s. This was this was very forward thinking on the part of the publisher.

That's now known as DC comics so Kane and finger new. We need colorful villains. We need eye-catching covers. We need dynamic storytelling.

They really were were going that direction very early so within within about a year of Batman's debut. We had the introduction of Robin the boy wonder again right red, yellow, green costume: the laughing young daredevil, I would. I would say that's why were still talking about Batman today in the present tense instead of some interesting pulp inspired character's time came and went immediately. I think for the better change the tone of the stories it may Batman a father figure gave him someone to talk to when he was his way through a case and that gave the readers a surrogate stand and where they could feel like hey I can do that I could take part in these adventures at partnership really pushed Batman even farther into the superhero territory than even before.

And you know that push the villains that much farther into extremes because right after Robin's debut, the joker who was evil and dangerous of illnesses, as there was Catwoman to face in the penguin in the regular are just as iconic as any. Here is from that era. They really tapped into something they knew what would be popular. They knew what would sell. They knew what the kids liked they did pay incredibly close attention to their competition so they they paid attention to what kind of numbers of Superman doing what's going on in Capt. Marvel this month is the big new character understands and if there is a way for them to tap into an audience, even if it was taking way readers from other books that were coming up in the same publisher than they tapped into that and the first year before Robin was introduced.

The stories were very gram there were very dark and very quickly the publisher realized you were reaching hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of kids with these comics. We have a responsibility here to be setting a better example. So they decided early on Batman doesn't carry a gun. Batman doesn't use lethal force.

He tries to find a better way to solve his problems if he can solve a problem with out violence by using his intellect using his detective skills that's even better than you been listening to Andrew Fargo told the remarkable story of Batman's history when we come back Batman through the years you on our American story. We hear the hosts of our American stories every day on the show were bringing inspiring stories from across this great country. Doors for big cities and small towns, but we truly can't do the show without our stories are free to listen to what they're not free to me if you love what you hear go to L American stories.com click the donate button give a little give a lot go to L American stories.com and give millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7.

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These adventures were becoming outrageous, more over-the-top another artists by the late 40s early 50s come on really redefined Batman an artist named Dick spring. He had a more cartoony art style and Batman barrel chested smiling that you are Robin started cracking funds and when wacky jokes have crazy adventures involved things like giant oversized prop typewriters or bookcases for time travel bad guys that he's fighting during that time included aliens think that scientists may have a criminal. Batman is trying to uncover his identity still realize that the criminal spelling out his name. One crime at a time from being, let's be just a little bit different than the real world to go totally nuts and have crazy fun event or story. I would imagine anybody who read the first issues in 1939 and then took a break and came back around 1952 would not recognize the character and actually this was totally fine with the audiences because up until that point there was constant audience turnover comic book readership did have some diehard fans who started reading in the 30s and Reading but generally speaking, kids would read from about eight until maybe 12 or so dropout and then a new batch of 8 to 12-year-olds would come in so stories didn't have to be particularly sophisticated. They didn't really need continuity that carried over from one month to the next stories could repeat themselves every few years because they assume that the readers were new and hadn't seen that before. Characters like Batman and Superman were seen as very safe, very respectable books that any kid could read you knew you're getting a good reliable adventure story every month. By the early 60s Batman was actually in danger of cancellation may have been that they were challenging their audiences they had competition from publishers like Marvel who were really winning the hearts and minds of younger readers. They were seen as more dynamic, more fun, more challenging stories that this point actually turned to some creators who had recently revitalized one of their comics.

The flash character from World War II era and came up with a new version of him that it's really engaged readers that was exciting as more modern.

It was more dynamic.

Whereas, that in the early 60s throwback relic so they had creators like writer Gardner Fox and artist Carmine Infantino come along and this is this is really what ultimately say Batman they didn't era called the new book they modernized them. He was not the barrel chested grinning kind of Superman knockoff character that he was more streamlined.

The minimum modern detective gave him computer equipment and modernized everything about the character and that was that. You know that was a signal to readers that hey, take a look were changing things. We are aware that Marvel comics exists. The comic of choice for young readers and teens right now but we can be cool.

We can be with it and around that time. Executives at ABC were looking at bringing they wanted to bring a comic strip to television able to take advantage of things like Technicolor and they wanted to take advantage of nostalgia. The people had for popular characters producers including Amanda Bill Dozier were determined to bring comics to television somehow that was gonna be at that was can be the kind of thing that they can put with shows like the Addams family and the monsters that were winning over young audiences. This really coveted young audiences and their families. They all grown up reading Batman. They had fond memories of him and they thought we can do this we can make this a fun television show the TV show and it debuted in 1966 was an immediate sensation that was huge hit in the ratings. Really, nothing would be the same for the character is just a smash in every sense you have Adam West as Batman on the cover of Time magazine life magazine TV Guide you had fashions inspired by Batman catchphrases you have every possible kind of merchandise under the sun coming out with the comic books back toward the top of the sales charts you know even that this show was camp.

It was comedy.

It was humor but really wasn't far off from the source material. Adam West is perfect as it is a stoic squared jaw very sincere hero and crimefighter mortgages plucky inquisitive excitable sidekick, you know, if you look at if you look at the roster. The cast list in the second and third season, you'll see that Hollywood a list or were fighting. They were begging to be on the show because they wanted the Batman villain or cameo appearance cool thing to do at the time in all good things must come to an end and the ratings came tumbling back down to earth very quickly in the third season, but the damage had been undone and Batman would have his ups and downs in the years since, but there was never any danger of going away. Once a television show that the Batman TV show came to define the character for a long time for a good a good 20 years. As far as the public was concerned and in a way it came to define comics, so you could not see a newspaper headline from 1966 through maybe even the early 2000 didn't have them. How superheroes in the headline and not too long after that final episode aired the show started up again and syndication so much like Star Trek had this incredible shelf life after its cancellation.

So to Batman because almost the minute the new episode stopped UHF stations picked it up and kids could still watch Batman every day after school so is as a kid in the 80s. That's how I was introduced to Batman so this really loomed large.

This was as far as the public was concerned this was Batman but that actually didn't sit well with some of the comic book creators.

They camping us that what silliness and they realized if we try to do this if we try to translate this exactly how it is on the screen to the comics that were to look like dinosaurs. The TV show have had a chance it came it went to do modern comics do things again can go toe to toe with Marvel comics and with the other comics that are on the rock, listening to a remarkable story about Batman and it all started with money is the driving force Bob Janet found out that the people making Superman were making a couple hundred bucks a week in the Great Depression. We thought all I can come up with my own character and his partner Bill finger just that by the end of the 1930s.

They had their own book World War II came looking for an escape and a different version of Batman formed.

Then came the early 60s Batman's popularity was waiting in came the TV show and soon every a list or want to be a part of it Burgess Meredith Frank portion perfect fit. Jerry Lewis, Otto Preminger, Sammy Davis Junior, the list goes on. When we come back more of the story of Batman through the years here on our American story millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7.

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They were worried that new readers may been put off by having 50 years of history. All these characters so they wanted to do a fresh start with her comics and with this fresh start. They decided that Jason Todd instead of having an origin that was directly cribbed from Dick Grayson's. They decided he should have a new origin. They reinvented him street cat a tough kid who actually met Batman because he stole the Batmobile's tires. Readers didn't really like this new version of him. They thought he was kind of a he was kind of a punk name is not properly deferential to Batman's written special by the next writer of the Batman comics. Jim Starling is written as kind of a hothead. Yes, darlin' actually did not like Jason Todd or sidekicks and principal say he kind of wrote a version that he knew would be unlikable that he knew readers would warm to and kinda brought everything to a head with storyline called a death in the family. They wanted to do big publicity stunt. Draw attention to their comics and they they wanted to take advantage of done modern telephone technology and they wanted to do a call in Paul. This was in parts inspired by Saturday Night Live call in poll where you determine whether a lobster name Larry the lobster would be boiled on error or set free at the end of the night so they wanted to apply the same thing to the DC comics publication that we need to make a day. We need to make a life or death for readers to care enough to spend $0.50 to call and make this phone call.

They decided we got this Jason Todd character. Let's put it to vote to see whatever it is. He died by a narrow, very narrow margin by about 72 votes readers. It's now the Joker should kill Jason Todd said they killed them off in this violent storyline. It got national headlines Denny O'Neil who is the editor those books, I was able to talk to him about this and he said they had the fortune or misfortune of it hitting on a slow news day the comics sold out nationwide.

They rush them. He caught grief from friends and neighbors.

The local deli. Everybody was upset at him for allowing this to happen.

It really indicated that the public was ready for much darker take on Batman. That's really what we got. But that is darker comics pave the way for Tim Burton Batman movies. It really was tapping into what this older readership was seeking were now into at least the second generation, maybe third generation of creators who grew up on Batman comics Batman movies and Batman television shows have their own vision for the character they know what kind of stories they want to tell.

They know the best way to tell them whether that's comics or movies or television or video games truly incredible stories.

It's a testament to the original core concept of Batman that more widely known than ever. You can barely say that about any other character from the 1930s. You can maybe say that about Superman Mickey Mouse doesn't have the cultural relevancy today. Popeye doesn't. Batman is such an ageless time was concept its child suffers an unspeakable tragedy and then transforms himself into a protector or someone who is mission is to make sure no one no kid anywhere has to go through what he did and that's that's a story that you can tell today. It's the story.

Years from now. Batman is wonderful vehicle for telling all manner of stories until Batman stories about street-level crime-fighting Nazis during World War II, fighting for the colonists fighting communist in the 1950s, and since I think that's good to be true. 10 years from now. I think of the 200 years and it is so true.

Batman will be around for a very long time. Terrific job by our own Monty Montgomery and Robbie Davis in a special thanks to Andrew Farah go curator at the cartoon Art Museum and author of Batman the definitive history of the dark Knight comics film and beyond the book at the usual suspects online. My goodness, the major decision made was to stop catering just to young kids who would grow out of the comics and instead choose adult themes than adults to enjoy these remarkable stories and characters that ran through the years here on our American story millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage.

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He made or did without. He was always looking for the better deal on what few things he did by daddy hated it. He had built his own house on his own land.

The only debt he incurred was for the drilling of oil on his property, something that he was unable to do himself and his brother-in-law, uncle Dylan, $10 a month until the totals paid off and he never owed anyone a dime. After that, rather, daddy safe. Actually it was probably mother saved it but daddy certainly was behind her efforts. Never plotting against her will recall that every time the Knoxville news Sentinel raised its subscription rate. Daddy threatened to stop the paper but mother always found some way to trim the household budget, usually through getting better.

So her grocery purchases and saved enough to pay the higher rate and keep getting the pipe for years. Home delivery of the seven-day subscription was only $0.50 a week, but if daddy needed something he saved for not making the purchase until he had the cash in hand to pay for. That's what he did when buying a car or truck. He saved and saved over a long time. Then when he was approaching the amount needed for the purchase. He began shopping around for the best deal when he thought he had located the vehicle, he wanted. He sat down with the salesman and stated his terms 90 days same as cash if the dealer wouldn't accept the simple terms that he simply got up and walked out. That's how he bought every car and truck he ever owned. Daddy was not tempted to exceed the top amount he could determine to spend but any dealer add-ons options or extra features or enticements. He wanted no luxury features no radio or air conditioning when those features were optional.

He did get them when they became standard his trucks never had radios. They were work trucks, no wide watch sidewalls if it was extra.

No fancy hubcaps of wheels. No more chrome then was standard and those were the days before most of the cars were made of plastic daddy save more than money. He seldom threw anything away, we might need it someday he would offer us a reason for hanging onto something. Many a time when I had nothing to do when I went to work him or her own rainy or cold days when we could not work. He had me pull manuals from scaffold boards that had been nailed together after I removed them. He instructed me to straighten and store them in a large coffee can jelly jar or old wooden box he might need to reuse them later. He also had a similar collection of old, assorted sizes of screws, bolts and nuts washers and rubber gaskets.

Then when the need arose from one of those items it would be available would have to run to the hardware store to buy one. He would however spend an hour or so searching through endless cans and boxes and other kinds of containers until he found the right item for his current need. This was all part of what he called Mike and but to make do.

You had to have a ready supply of material and tools to make do with.

That's why he say not just money but everything but I was impatient. I couldn't understand that he's thinking. Daddy sometimes tried to reason with them. You save all these nuts and bolts and washers and screws to save money, but then you will spend an hour or more running through the whole collection trying to find the right one. Don't you know that time is money. He couldn't see it that way.

I'd resigned myself to his never changing. The problem was that it was often my time to the place where daddies make and do concern me most was on the job site.

The sometimes improvised in ways that clearly were unsafe to himself. Me and other workers. For example, when I was so young that I could carry a maximum of only three bricks of the time I was working with daddy on the house that on the upper hand was one story tall. But on the lower in which three stories, the polyp used bricks that had been dumped on the operand meant that I had to transfer them as needed on the scaffold all the way to the other end of the house. Daddy rigged a 2 x 10 wall board running from the brick pile to the uppermost scaffold was to carry my three bricks board and along the scaffold walkway to the other end of the house. My problem was that with both of my hands on the bricks had no way of balancing myself on the wall board I would fall off listening to my complaint. Daddy conceded and agreed to put a handrail on one side of the wall board that sounded to me like a safer solution to the problem. But after he added the Royal and I trotted out I discovered that the Royal might the walk space on the board even narrower, forcing me to walk toward one side of the daddy insisted, however, that it was safe.

I tried to make it work and promptly fell off the side without the rail and into the palm of bricks.

Daddies make can do once just about did him into he was working high on the scaffold in the gable end of the house used to walk boards nailed together with 16 pinning to disband the central part of scaffold is that safe.

I asked with genuine concern. Of course it's safe responded, sounding a bit hurt by my doubts. I built it did not. He walked across it once and then recrossed it bouncing up and down on it a little to demonstrate his point over the course of the day. However, his repeated walking and bouncing across the gap because the manuals to begin working loose near the end of the day. The board suddenly separated as daddy walked across and down he fell about 20 feet into a wheelbarrow of freshly mixed mortar other than a scanned shin and a bruised ego. He was unanswered.

What would've been the result of that fall had that barrel of mortar not been there to cushion the fall. On another occasion when daddy made do you nearly burned our house down.

We had been having some trouble with our water heater not being able to meet the demands of the family of six.

One Saturday we ask daddy to look at it see what the problem was. Upon examining it determined that one element had burned out, but he thought that he could jury rig it so that it would still produce heat. I don't understand electrical appliances enough to know exactly what he did but I think he somehow bypassed something and reword some other thing and it worked. Problem solved. Or so we thought. On Monday afternoon we drove into the garage.

When we got home from work and for some odd reason I happened to look for the opposite side of the garage where our water heater was.

I saw one side of it blackened from bottom to top. My eyes followed the direction of the rising suit stain to the ceiling joist chard in the insulation between the joists was blackened. Fortunately the fire because the circuit breaker to do its job, cutting off the power and preventing further damage. That's what can come from, I can do that daddy remains a make do million all his life in a great work is always my Monty Montgomery and a special thanks to Dennis Peterson and you can go to Dennis L. Peterson.com hear more of his stories.

The upsides and downsides of having a make and do kinda dad or mom or anyone around you, and I've had enough around me in my life and sometimes her joy, and sometimes Otilia the story of Dennis Peterson's dad so many dads around this country like you on our American story