The Turning Point in Abe’s Life: A Wrestling Match and From Small Town Texas To Ministering To Thousands

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Visit Vanguard.com and discover ownership fund shareholders on the functional Vanguard middle-market Corporation Streeter this is Lisa Beebe and this is our American stories we tell stories about everything from the show from New York to sports and from business to history and everything in between including your story. Send them our American stories.com there are some of our favorites in this next story is brought to us by listener Mike Chapman who listens to us on 1040 WHO, Des Moines, Iowa. Abraham Lincoln is one of the greatest leaders in US history. But prior to his being elected the 16th president of the United States used his skills as a wrestler to win approval from the masses, Mike Chapman has been writing about and researching wrestling for many years is also the author of the sport of Lincoln here is my Chapman to share this turning point story in Abraham Lincoln's life.

Aside from my passion for wrestling. I have long been intrigued by the history of US presidents that really began to blossom when I was executive editor of the daily newspaper in Dixon Illinois which is the hometown of Ronald Reagan.

I was the editor there from 1989 to 1998. During that 10 year period. I discover that Abe Lincoln had actually served in the very same location that is Dixon today.

Lincoln served there during the Black Hawk war of 1832 and that fact really inspired me to learn more about Lincoln as a young man, which in turn led me to the little village of New Salem, Illinois.

It is located about 200 miles south of Dixon and about 20 miles northwest of Springfield, Illinois, and what a wonderful place that is for any history buff. Abraham Lincoln was born on February 6, 1809 and raised in Kentucky, the 20 was seven the Lincoln family moved to Indiana. He grew into a strapping young man nearly 6'4" tall and weighing about 180 pounds. He first rolled in the New Salem in 1831 is a 22-year-old looking for a new start in life, and soon he became engaged in an event that was destined to play a very important role in his career was called scuffling are grappling and in modern terms. It is called wrestling but first a little background wrestling is often called mankind's oldest sport as it is a subject in some of the oldest pieces of literature known to exist in the epic of Gilgamesh, composed in ancient Samara, which today is now known as a rock nearly 4000 years ago a wrestling contest between Gilgamesh, the king, a large city of Burke and a forced giant name and could do is an important feature of the saga in the Bible as described in Genesis. The Hebrew patriarch Jacob wrestles with the angel of the Lord after a struggle that lasted all through the night the angel gave Jacob a new name Israel, which loosely translated means contested with God. Some the greatest figures in ancient Greece such as CCS, Hercules and Achilles, the most celebrated hero of the Trojan war epic known as the Elliott were wrestlers in our drawings of wrestlers inside some the pyramids in Egypt. Wrestling came to the New World were the first colonists back in the late 1600s that flourished along the eastern seaboard and moved west with the men who carve homes out of the wilderness and it was popular both as a test of manhood and is a form of entertainment in small villages like New Salem.

It also attracted betting, which made it even more popular today New Salem is a beautiful state park with over 650,000 visitors a year.

It is possible to walk to the main gate and stroll down the same path that a 22-year-old Abe Lincoln traversed in 1831 villages founded in 1828 and Lincoln lived there for about six years serving as a surveyor postmaster star operator and rail splitter was here that Lincoln got his first taste of politics when he was elected to the Illinois Gen. assembly, and it was also here in 1831 that the Lincoln legend first began to bloom.

Thanks to wrestling. Lincoln came to New Salem because he had received an offer from a man named Denton off it to work in his little store situated on a bluff near the San Guimond River then met sometime earlier when Lincoln had worked for off it on his flat boat taking goods down the Mississippi River to sell in New Orleans off.

It took a liking to like it and told it that he could work for me New Salem if he ever decided to venture over that way. So now when Lincoln arrived off that was in competition with another store just 40 feet from his. It was run by a man by the name of William Clary in the summer of 1831 Clary was selling liquor from the store and doing very well. He charged $0.12 for a drink of brandy, gin or whiskey and twice that for his best wine. He developed a good and steady business of local customers and visitors from off the river when river travelers came up the bluff for breaking attorneys. They were looking for a place to drink a bit and swap tales so often chose to build his store very close to clerics and the two men competed for business, Clary store was at the top of the bluff about 40 feet in front of office store. Travelers had to make a choice between them as to which was the best place to spend a small amount of money. Lincoln had impressed off with his wiry strength off it had seen a pickup large barrels of whiskey and other bulky items and carried them off with these and 64, and 4 inches of height and caring close to hundred and 80 pounds us and we muscle.

He was very large man for that time off. It was a man who like to talk a lot, is very proud of his new helper and boasted William Clary that Abe was the strongest man he knew the Clary knew a few strongmen as well.

They were men of a different temperament than Abe Lincoln loud and belligerent when the liquor took effect. Wrestling was the best way to determine what a man was made of the box in the thick grass between Clary store in office store or a regular occurrence in a true frontier style. The ringleader of the box was a rugged farmer from nearby Clary's Grove called Jack Armstrong shorter than Lincoln Armstrong was much thicker and heavier at age 27 he was five years older than eight, little is known but Armstrong's wrestling expertise other than the fact that he was considered the rest of the gang of young men who resided at Clary's Grove and hung out at the Clary Stafford and when we continue more of Mike Chapman story about Abe Lincoln here in our American stories. If you love the stories we tell about this great country and especially the stories of America's rich past.

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He was undoubtedly a more seasoned grappler fighter, according to all reports. Now there were several types of wrestling that were engaged in on the front tier 1 style was to where the two men agreed to grab a hold on each other and see who could throw who first what was was just a good old-fashioned scuffle with each man trying to throw the other to his back and holding their it was just two men tugging and pulling each other in an effort to subdue the other. Yes, footstomping was a frequent tactic as was higher pulling and thumbing of the face in 1939, a popular movie called Abe Lincoln of Illinois was made from the porch, a prize-winning play of the same name written by Robert Sherwood.

This film version of the story. Lincoln played superbly by Raymond Massey tangles with Armstrong played with gusto by Howard the silver, while a fair dramatic version certainly looks good on film stories match ending with Lincoln on his feet, looking down at the defeated Armstrong the Clary Grove boys angry at seeing the best man beat advanced on Lincoln shouting at him and raising assists in all slight. Lincoln supposedly stood with his back against one of the two stores assist clients and declared that he would take them all on one at a time if necessary. However, Armstrong came to Lincoln side and told his pills that Lincoln had beaten him fairly and that he had proven that he was worthy of their respect boys. Abe Lincoln is the best fellow that ever broken of the settlement set Armstrong, he shall be one of us. The Clary's Grove boys backed off and Lincoln gained a new status in the little village is known from then on, is a man not to be trifled despite his infectious grin and considered good humor. The fact was seen that Lincoln could defend himself, and he gained immense stature due to his wrestling so the main thrust of the boat could be described like this. Lincoln didn't really want to wrestle Armstrong because he felt was building up too much as a fight, not strictly a good-natured contest, but when he saw how everyone is talking about the match and making such a big deal.

He knew it was bound to take place. Eventually, it is estimated today that nearly 15,000 books have been written about Abraham Lincoln more than any other figure in history, with the exception of Jesus Christ and many of these books talk about Lincoln's contest with Jack Armstrong and its impact on his career. The most thorough discussion of Lincoln's wrestling background comes in the book honors voice, the transformation of Abraham Lincoln, written by Douglas L.

Wilson in 1999. The book offers an entire chapter nearly 32 pages devoted to Lincoln's wrestling prowess appropriately entitled quote wrestling with the evidence. Here's the key part Abraham Lincoln's election to the presidency and the eventual elevation to the pantheon of American heroes have transformed his wrestling match with Jack Armstrong from a rowdy initiation rite in an obscure partner village into a notable historical event."

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Stewart Lincoln as well as anyone embodiments his law firm in Springfield after Lincoln left Salem quote. This was the turning point in Lincoln's life. Stewart claimed after the death of his longtime friend talking about the wrestling match is a fitting into the new Salem wrestling match story.

Lincoln became friends with the Armstrong family and offered visited the little cabin in the months after the match with Jack Jack's wife Hannah even did some shirts for a and able to babysit, sometimes rocking the cradle of the young baby Lincoln left New Salem after six years and moved to Springfield where he began his law career.

Years later, he even defended Jack's son Jeff Armstrong in a famous legal case. Jack Armstrong didn't live long enough to see Lincoln when the presidency dying in 1854 at the age of 50. He is buried in an obscure out-of-the-way front tier Cemetery a mile or two from New Salem unknown except for his grappling contest with a man who became the 16th president of the United States and arguably the most popular American ever. There are other brief references to Lincoln using his grappling skills. After that Armstrong and Connor sometime later, while working in another tiny store New Salem a man insulted several women customers with profane language and Lincoln asked him to stop. The man persisted and said no one could make him stop. Lincoln challenged him to step outside flowing into the ground and stuffed weeds in his mouth until the man surrendered in August 1834, while running for the state legislature. Lincoln found the opportunity to show his wrestling skills. Once again, during that time he was running for office. Once again and this time he was elected to the state legislature. Just as Lincoln was getting ready to speak. A fight broke out in the crowd.

His friend was roughed up. Lincoln jumped off the platform, grabbed his friends. Assailant tossed him a few feet, then strode back to the platform and began his speech, and then there is also a report of Lincoln losing a grappling contest.

It occurred during the Black Hawk war years sometime that 1831, 33. That Took Pl. in Beardstown, IL, a little village about 50 miles west of Dixon. The fall was a man named Lorenzo doll Thompson and many years later in 1860, while running for the presidency. Lincoln himself talked about the struggle.

In an interview. Lincoln set up to that time he had never been thrown, and neither had Thompson. They squared off grabbed hold of each other before a large group of soldiers struggled valiantly but Lincoln said he was thrown twice declared Thompson was strong enough that with a grizzly bear. The best man he had ever grappled with and then there's this fascinating tidbit from the Douglas Wilson book honors voice. He adds that Abe's mother Nancy Hanks like to wrestle." In a fair wrestle she could throw most of the men who ever put her polished test. So let us conclude with a statement from Wilson's book legends by their very nature are not so much factual account as symbolic embodiments or expressions of the facts represent. In any case, Abe Lincoln's wrestling prowess can best be interpreted as representing Lincoln has a strong, determined and fearless fellow ready take on the task at hand and never shrinking from the ordeal itself. After all, that is what the man known as honesty would want from us.

The pure truth, the facts and nothing else.

Abe Lincoln was a wrestler and you been listening to Mike Chapman tell the story of Lincoln the wrestler knew who knew I didn't and I read a lot about Lincoln and while some of the books he cited. I have on my desk. I have a stack of Lincoln books. I still have to read and you can never stop reading about Lincoln and Washington and some of these great, almost Titanic personalities. This is just so much to them by way Mike spent his life as a newspaper writer and editor in Iowa and also spent 50 years of his life writing and researching wrestling. He's appeared on A&E network ESPN and the WW Abe Lincoln and the wrestling that became a turning point in his life here on L American stories. I know everything there is to know about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my state for me to make sure my business people, incompetent business owners to help you pass.

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I was three years old and and creeping come to my dad's church to scene can remember sitting in the church that night thinking I wanted to and so after the concert if I could sing in church the next Sunday morning and he said yes and so I did.

I was born into a preacher's family in West Texas, Chris. We lived in a very small West Texas town we were living in Stanton Texas which appear a real Texas native you know where that is. It's in between Midland and Odessa where there is absolutely nothing but tumbleweeds – and in pump jacks and if you don't know what that is hazardous things that look like hammers going up and down pump oil out of the ground and that's where I grew a lot of my earliest memories were in church. I can remember sitting in church with my two brothers in front in the in the row in front of us and sitting in my mom's lap and my two sisters on either side of her and can't remember when my brothers went active in church. My mom would march all five of us out and then bring us all back and it was really so humiliating. You're like I'm not doing that in church ever again. You know those are just part of being in a pastor's family had when I was five my dad got invited to preach at a friend's church for a revival which was a series of meetings every night of the week and so he said we get together and learn song each day and will sing that song and so that's what we did and so we learned five songs and on the last night we had a little concert of all the five songs that we learned and that's how we got started. So when I was about nine years old, my dad decided he would go into what is called full-time evangelism people would invite my dad to come preach and we would come and sing in these little churches in either I can remember my dad bought a box. This is 1972.

My dad bought a bus and we got on the bus and started traveling around the state of Texas singing in churches he would preach and we would sing and my siblings really became my best friends because you know you're in a different place every week and we spent a lot of our time when we were on the road. Learning new music we would harmonize on the bus and we really developed our ear for harmony in music. I don't play an instrument, which is one of my big regrets in life that I have an unbelievable ear for music and it was developed in those moments in those weeks and months and years that we spent on the best learning music and it was really exciting because all of my siblings and me did school by what they called correspondence back then they didn't have homeschooled. He had to go through whenever a couple of schools that were out of Chicago and all of the child television and movie stars went through these schools. Jackson's Osmonds and you know all of these young kids who are performers, they all went to the same school that we went to out of Chicago and we traveled the first probably 10 years we traveled. I know my mom my mom still has the calendars. I helped her move recently after my dad's death and we found a box where she had kept the calendars of our bookings and we were on the road for probably the first 10 years, about 320 Daisy here just staggering. I don't even know how we did it, and there was not one church that we went into my dad didn't say listen they're not here to serve us. We are here to serve them think we recorded 32 albums together. We won a couple of double words. Most of the music that was being released back then was like a southern gospel quartet music that my family we sang contemporary music and we were all young, we were teenagers, so even with my family. We were kind of pioneers in Christian music at the time and some of the earliest really big contemporary Christian artists were inspired to go into contemporary music because of my family groups like point of grace and Steven Curtis Chapman and so we traveled in saying we did that for about 13 years and then I got married at 22 to another Christian music artist and set up house in Dallas Texas and built a studio with my husband we began to produce music and we begin to write songs for other artist and we had a very successful production company very successful music writing career. We wrote number one singles for a lot of different Christian artist and produced some secular artist as well. Paula Abdul Gladys Knight and Steve Perry and Al Green coming week. We were just in very diverse which I left at about the kind of music that we wrote and produced, so we did that for about nine years and then I went through a very difficult unwanted divorce. He came from a very broken dysfunctional family.

There were signs in the beginning of difficulty in trouble and I thought you know I can love and encourage and support him to where we can get to a healthy place you know there were there were seasons of it being healthy and then there were seasons when it wasn't healthy and he chose infidelity and he chose alcohol and I don't know what else I just know there was alcohol involved. I really hate to put him in this position because I hear he was a well-known artist and it's on my Wikipedia page that he chose he chose to walk away. I did everything I needed to to try to save my marriage and it was really difficult because you know in the church world, especially in the denomination that I grew up in the first of all, there aren't a lot of female ministers, certainly not one who was divorced. In fact, most men who were divorced were out of ministry as well so you know, in my mind I thought this could be the end of it for me and you're listening to Cindy Radcliffe sure her story growing up in West Texas were talking West Texas were pump jacks architecture and from there, growing up a preacher's daughter just traveling from church to church 320 days a year like what Willie Nelson would do is living out of a bus amendment marriage and then a divorce. What happens next will will find out Cindy Radcliffe's story, the story of faith dear on our American store. I know everything about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my state for me to make sure my equal and confident business owners to help you best. State Farm is in your corner and on like a good neighbor. There call your local State Farm agent for quote today doing chores can be time-consuming and tedious. Laundry still overwhelmed so if you want to get those larger laundry loads done right and get back to doing the things you enjoy. Try all three clear packs all three clear packs two times the cleaning ingredients compared to a regular laundry load without the worry of three clear mega packs are also 100% free of perfumes and dye and gentle on skin, which is great for any family sensitive skin needs to get back in summer camp laundry now that all three clear mega purchase all three clear mega packs today and conquer any laundry load for all fabric types you guys, this is Tori, and Jenny with the 90210 MG podcasts we have such a special episode brought to you by near attack ODT. We recorded it at iHeartRadio's tentpole event windows handout. Did you know that near attack ODT were magic pants 75 mg can help migraine sufferers still such an exciting event like window tango.

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My has been moved to California just I was left with pretty much nothing. And a friend of mine Bebe Winans is a very well-known Christian artist invited me to come to Nashville to work for him and really very subtly God began to put my life back together and while I was in Nashville friend of mine from Oklahoma City. He was a pastor. He called me and he said Cindy he said I don't know if he would be interested.

He said I feel like if you will come Oklahoma City and lead worship for my church. He said I feel like this might be the doorway to what God has for you this next season of your life.

You know, I just stepped out in faith and decided I'm going to try this.

We really ended up with something special here and I got a call from my brother that 18 months later and he said I really need some help building our music department at the church in Tampa which you come and help me build their and so I did and I was there for a little right right about here and I decided to go home so I went back to Dallas and pastor's wife where I had attended church in Dallas. She said were starting a Saturday night service. Would you help us build a team for Saturday night service.

She said is going to be like a younger audience were contemporary so that's what I did and down one day while I was leading worship. I know this again is how crazy one day while I was leading worship. I saw this young man standing in the back of the auditorium and he was dressed in a suit and he looked like he had just come from work. It was on a Wednesday night and he had his hands lifted and worship and to stop this businessman back there just really worshiping while he's in church you know, a few weeks later I met him after the Saturday night service. He introduced himself and introduce myself and his name was Marcus Radcliffe and we met in March church and eight months later we got married and just before we got married. I got a phone call from a gentleman in Houston, Texas by the name of Joel posting and Joel said he said my dad passed away earlier this year and I just become the pastor of the church and I would like for you to come down and just visit the church and see what you think about coming to lead worship for us and you know there weren't very many female worship leaders at the time so Joel called me and said what you come down. It's crazy because I was literally sitting at sonic drive-in and I get a phone call in and that you know famous Texas accent seemed sticky like wow okay and then he asked me to come down to Houston and just check out the church and when I got there I could see that the music department really needed development.

It had not been a focus of the church. So we sat down to talk about it and I told him what my vision was. He began to say what his vision was an just lined up perfectly and Marcus was a mortgage broker and very successful in Dallas and we were literally just weeks away from getting married and so I was talking with Marcus about it. Marcus was just so generous and he said you know I can do mortgage brokering from anywhere in the United States as long as I have a computer and he said I really feel like this is what God has for us and so we moved to Houston we got married, went on our honeymoon, came back to Dallas packed our stuff up and moved to Houston began this journey 20 almost 23 years ago little be 23 years.

In October that we began this journey with Joel.

It's been fun because I don't have all of the duties of running the department anymore which is nice but I don't have to do all of that and so I've been able to venture out into some other areas that I've been excited to venture into one of those is in writing the screenplay.

You know I had been writing music of written music since I was nine years old was a published writer nine years old had been riding for quite a while and my dad when I was 18 brought me this book called was one of a trilogy called the senior the song the finale written by Calvin Miller and he wrote he brought this book to me and he said you've got to read this book and he would began to read passages out of this book literally cry while he was reading these passages because they were so powerful, just it's an allegory on the life of Christ, but it's written around the theme apology music and about seven years ago I came across the film rights for purchased the film rights and began to write the screenplay, so I've worked on the screenplay for seven years. I would write something and I would sit down and read what I'd written to my dad and we would both sit and cry together. It was just beautiful and I didn't finish the screenplay until last year and my dad went to heaven before I finished it but I know that I know he's proud of what I've done and he encouraged me along the way of how I kept to the soul of the book To you know the real message of the book and it was just so sweet to get to share so much of it with him as I went to this journey I just seen God take a little less Texas girl who was born out in the middle of a bunch tumbleweeds and you know put me in front of very influential people.

Millions of people to encourage them and uplift them and lead them into God's presence through worship and it's been an absolute joy even along the hard places even in the tough spots, my constant has been the gift that God's given me bringing me closer to him in a terrific job on the production by faith. Buchanan and a special thanks to Cindy Ratcliff for sharing her story. She had to decide to junction her life, whether to forgive X, I decided I was not going to walk in unforgiveness not be covered by the past. The biggest and best decision she made in her life. I lost everything that was familiar to me and she said when she was invited by BB Winans working natural worship leadership letter to Oklahoma City but to Tampa but to Dallas where she meets her husband when she gets the call control and 23 years later, leading worship there and then writing the screenplay.

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