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JoyRide, The Car Club Exclusively for Kids with Special Needs and North Carolina Wouldn't Let Paula Smith Sell Her House For Over A Decade

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July 1, 2022 3:00 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, Blair Cornell tells us how his family navigated raising their neuordivergent son and how they created a non-profit car club to help people with autism. Craig Richardson, Matthew Bryant and Paula Smith tells us about the story of Winston-Salem, North Carolina's unconstitutional MAP Act.

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00:00 - JoyRide, The Car Club Exclusively for Kids with Special Needs

23:00 - North Carolina Wouldn't Let Paula Smith Sell Her House For Over A Decade

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Next we bring you Blair Cornell tell you the story of his family there experience with special needs and what Blair is doing as a result went off to college to Ohio University and I tried that while my wife Kat. We met freshman year and were good friends for this first couple years and then took the plunge and decided I would get to take this risk. Taylor to jeopardize our friendship and maybe date and so glad that we did because we started dating and never look back and have been best friends ever since we graduated in college in 2004 and I convinced Kat to move back to my hometown here in Dayton, Ohio where I know is can be working in the family business financial advising wealth management business that I had one to work in since I was little kid with my dad and she trusted me and believed in that and so she followed me back to Dayton and that's kind of how we ended up here and I got married in 2006 Is a CPA that she was in the accounting field for couple years and then she went on to work with the larger firm LEXIS-NEXIS as a financial analyst and did that for a couple of years 2008 came and we had our first child Caitlin was born and changed our lives forever. Shortly thereafter, then we welcomed our second child into the world and that was Carter and that's really where our lives changed significantly in 2010 on August 23, 2010.

I remember the day like it was yesterday. Kat and I were driving in for our 20 week ultrasound and we found out some exciting news that we are having a little boy, but we also found out some devastating news that he was gonna be born with moderate to severe special needs. If in fact even survive for us.

We had made a decision that we were to make the most of this referral for several weeks then we continue to try to find answers and figure out what was going on in.

We went down and had that very good care done in Cincinnati and Cincinnati children's.

And that's a top hospital in country and we had a great team of physicians that answered a lot of questions and help get us contract for what we were to be expecting. Meanwhile, Was very sick. She didn't really eat much for about four or five months while she was pregnant with Carter.

She was not able to keep any food down. She had extreme hyper emesis which is extreme nausea and that's what prevented her from really being able to eat much that she was on a lot of supplemental nutrition which was taxing for her and for me, no caring for our daughter Caitlin at the time to before Carter was born and so that was a tough time and as our family had to adapt to that and figure that out, but we were also excited for the journey that I was can put us on when Carter was born and then 2011 January 4, 2011. We welcome Carter Thompson Cornell in the world and that's really when the journey began. For what God had in store for us in the plan that he had for us that we couldn't foreseen back. We had just Caitlin or before we were just getting married. You think you are to be heading down one path and you realize quickly that there's a bigger plan that we don't know the answer still and so Carter was born in January 4, 2011 and was in the NICU at the hospital for 10 days and then he came home from there we started to adapt to what was gonna be like to live with the child with special needs at when you hear that a child certainly is going to have challenges your heart broken and you go through that denial and that feeling of of sadness and kind of you.

II think a lease for me you're a little selfish at first wondering what's this could mean for me and how how much harder to skin to be for me and and houses can change our family and all the plans that we had and how that's no longer going to be exactly the way I had planned it that then I think over time you start to evolve into this is no longer necessarily just about me and a challenge for me, but there's an opportunity for me and for others to to reshape us and to be able to say this is a positive and this is a blessing because at the time, I would've told you I have no idea how would Bill do this.

I'm not sure I can do this when you're in that moment when you have a child you'll do anything and you find a way Carter surpassed a lot of doctors goals just from the fact that he was born full term. A lot of doctors thought he might have been preterm, which could present more challenges and the fact he was full-term was a big a big win and big success. Then in the hospital. He you had a lot of things that we were sure about like hearing and eyesight test set seem to be going okay and so then when he came home.

There were certain things we didn't have to worry him as much about other things we had more to worry about, but Kat, who is staying home with our kids at the time, spent a lot of time researching and learning what she could. Anyone who wants doctors appointments and meet with different specialists and so there were lots of unknowns a lot of uncertainties for those first few years that's really when Carter started taking on his own really doing well and started surpassing.

Quite frankly, what we all had expected, and those first two years of his life, Carter.

To this day is somebody that we you know always are wondering what's coming next. But he continues to surprise us in a lot of ways and you been listening to Blair Cornell told the story of his family are having a board. The bad news is he so initially, this boy would have special needs. That is if you survived all one thing we heard clearly though from Blair is that he was excited to find out more journey God had for him and clearly his faith life and so much to do with how we handle this is initial response was a selfish one I would this affect me as opposed to well might this be an opportunity and when we come back working to find out more about how young Carter changed Blair Cornell's life here on our American store we could be here, the host of our American stories everyday on the show were bringing inspiring stories from across this great country. Doors for big cities and small towns, but we truly can't do the show without our stories are free to listen to, but they're not free to make you love what you hear Florida L American stories.com click the donate button give a little devil will go to L American stories.com and you you guys, this is Tori Jenny with 90210 MG podcasts we have such a special episode brought to you by near attack ODT we recorded at at iHeartRadio type event windows handout. Did you know that near attack ODT were magic pant 75 mg can help migraine sufferers still such an exciting event like Wingo tango. It's true.

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There call your local State Farm agent for quote today with our American stories and Blair Cornell story after the birth of their first child, Caitlin Blair and his wife Found out that they were about to have another child. Boy who's going to be born with moderate severe special needs. Let's pick up where we last left off in 2006 I was driving home summer night and I came into the house and I look to Catton.

She said you got help me and had a really rough day and I don't really know where to go or what to do or how to get Carter back on track.

He's had a rough day and I so can I do and she said I don't really know. So I walked over and sat down next to Carter knelt down next to him and say Carter what's going on and he couldn't really talk. He was crying and tears running down his face was just very upset and frustrated. I thought well maybe if you taken for writing my car had a fun convertible time and Sicard you want to go right for writing that is convertible.

He looked up at me like a light switch was flipped and said right and that is convertible and he said let's go and so I remember carrying him out to the garage that night. I could just feel his chin resting on my shoulder as we bounced along the way out to the garage and stopped him in the convertible and buckled them up and away we went. And that night I watched all of his fears and tears and frustrations really go away and it was a pretty incredible experience to see just a simple car ride really change his life. And I thought to myself, that was pretty incredible. There's gotta be something more to this and as I talk with more people in Catton experimented, we realized that that was a big trigger for Carter, his special needs they have triggers and some of them many cars for Carter. It certainly cars but also music.

Those are triggers that can kinda distract him and put him back on track and really can help reshape how that days can go suck experiments with that. We realize there was more we could do with this and we went to to work in creating a nonprofit that we form that we call joyride and joyride was formed at the end thousand and 16 and we launched our first event in 2017 and joyride is all about kids scars and smiles. That's our tagline.

It's pretty simple. It's just getting together kids with some amazing cars to put a smile on their face and it's a pretty simple thing when you think about it, but it's something that can be very moving not only to the kids, but certainly, their families, but I think everybody that comes to our events whether there car driver or their volunteer. It's a way for people to feel fulfilled in their life in getting back to the community of people that tend to get overlooked joyride started out our very first event we had 12 cars and about 45 kids and our biggest event we had 30 cars and almost 150 kids, so probably five, six, 700 people that were there in total. When you factor their families and friends and all the volunteers that was so it's been a fun fun way to see people gathering get back in a big and meaningful way. And as we continue to see joyride grow. I don't know where to go but I can tell you that with the impact that it had just on me personally it fuels me and continues to push me harder to have more events, bigger events and reach more kids got four kids now, Brady and Davis were born when Carter was just three years old and Brady Davis were born their twins and I would tell you that they have. Even though there several years younger than Carter. They've kind of become a big brother to him in some ways, and how Larry help him and give back and it's neat to see them be excited to come to joyride events to want to give back in the same way that Carter's older sister Caitlin does and that's really what it's all about is getting an event put together for the community come together, but to realize we can all hit the pause button on us and maybe find a way to get back to others or trying to make this the most the most high-end that we possibly can to make these kids truly feel like a VIP you want to try to bring cars and that our cars you see every day on the street. That's what makes it special makes it unique so the cars that we have.

There are very unique. We have really typically a lot of exotic really high-end cars like Lamborghinis and Ferraris McLarens you'll really anything that you would probably turn your head out on the road and think that's not normal that's not something you see every day, at least in most areas, that's all we had our events and I also can have a little chip on my shoulder when it comes to siblings of kids with special needs that they get to do all the sporting events in the sleepovers and everything else and there simply can't and I think it's okay that they get to go to an event and they don't get to write any scars Carter to us and Carter's friends but also special needs do, but their siblings don't and it's not that I'm trying to exclude them. I'm just trying to make it that much more special for our members of joyride which of the kids that have special needs, but I say that the story, a story that sticks out to me the most was at our very first event.

Believe it or not, at very first event, there was some who came to our van driver that can prevent he had probably the nicest car at the event.

He was driving a Lamborghini event to door, which for those of you they don't know much about cars. It's up to half million dollar car so it's a very expensive car that Lamborghini has handles and performances wells anything out there but this driver looked at it purely as it's just a car and it's a car to be used here for today to create happiness for these kids. He didn't care if kids are staying on the seats. He didn't care if kids were rubbing up against it. He didn't care it was just a car and it was not going to he was going to guard it and not let anybody really get to enjoy it was there for the kids to enjoy and I'll tell you I'm always walking around a little bit and making sure that parents and kids are respecting his cars because they're very expensive cars another body feels like. This driver did. But on this particular day. This driver was there and I watched his interaction with these kids all day long and after the event. I remember watching in talking to one of the kids. The members from joyride and it was a scene that you will see from a movie he was kneeling down next to this little boy that the boy was telling him about how he was scared because he had some treatments coming up that he wasn't sure how was going to go and this this little boy had chow all kinds of challenges and some pretty intense medical treatments that were coming and this driver knelt down next to him, took his hand off that the boy had kind of taken a liking to and said what I've gone through a lot of medical challenges myself to this hat is my magic That's helped me get through all of that and when I wear this hat.

It protects me to make sure that I don't feel that pain. I don't worry as I want to give you my hat and you wear this hat and that's can help get you through all those challenges and you could see probably 10 volunteers watching the interaction and there are volunteers watching this driver and I pulled him aside at the end of the event and I said I just watch that and it's amazing that you have Outlook and he said look I gone through a really tough time in my life I gone through divorce. I faced a lot of medical challenges myself and he said I bought this car thinking it would bring happiness to me and it has since been a fun toy to have, but I've never experienced joy with this car, or joy like this in my life before. This is one of the best days of my life and seen that I can help somebody else has really move me. He said I can't wait to come back and do it again. And that's exactly joyride is all about terrific job on the story Tony in production by Robbie Davis with special thanks to Blair Cornell for sharing his story, his family story and what he did about what he did about it in his own community. Starting joyride Carter is having a rough day and he thought maybe I can take him for a ride to Debbie's convertible avoid what parent hasn't thought this at some point or another.

To solve a problem.

I watched all of his tears and fears go away. One simple car run. It was a trigger. While it can distract him and put him back on track.

Indeed, it did in the scene always have in my mind is the driver and his magic at with that young boy and what it did for the drive as well as the board story of compassion of love so much more.

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This is our American stories, and now it's time for rule of law series we tell stories about what happened when the rule of law is present or absent in our lives on Alex Cortez brings us this next.

This is the story of three residents in Salem Carolina my name is Craig Richardson. I'm an economics professor at Winston-Salem State University about Matthew Bryant practice law in Winston-Salem withdrawn.

My name is Paul Smith cell plus will benefit plan so FSA's HSA's HRA wealth of knowledge of HSA and FSA so that he would need to ask me questions to answer this question.

I was driving on my way to work and I heard a story on my local NPR station got a couple named James and Phyllis Nelson bought this little dream home outside Winston-Salem, surrounded by hardwoods looking out the bedroom window vacancy pilot Mountain what they start to relate with something which was shocking to me was the fact that one day when they woke up in 1996. This was about 17 years earlier. They woke up to see the government workers driving stakes in their long and they came out to ask what was going on and they said well this is where roads coming Highway or Highway is the centerline of the road and it's going to go 200 feet on each side of the stakes. It turns out that the road goes right through his kitchen right through the middle of his home for swapping surprise proposals to bought the house sleep for 29 years Winston-Salem at that time we didn't know anything about highway coming through our neighborhood a lot of a lot of years there that we were living not knowing what was about to happen to us, that's for sure. When we hear story like that, you know, I think we we know that sometimes this happens, we have the right to have public projects and mobile homes. But what gives a twist to the story was that the Department of Transportation was using a wall taskbar Gen. assembly of the late 80s that allow the department to make road plans that would restrict the development and use of property indefinitely until the department got around to acquiring and getting ready to construct the roadways.

It turns out that there's something called the transportation corridor or map backed what gave us a very unusual twist was that in North Carolina like any other state, which also there are others that, but unlike any other state in the United States. There was no time limit on when these roads can be built in other words, the DOT, the Department of Transportation could plan a road could say would happen sometime in the future and essentially have carte blanche to decide whenever that road would be built, and these were called road core doors no. Why would the DOT do something like this. Well, the original intent was that this idea would save taxpayers money.

The idea behind that was that if we designate your house in a road core door and were going to eventually buy your house out. We don't want you to put a new kitchen. We don't want to have a garage value in any way because that's gonna cost taxpayers more money to put you in this road core door and were going to say that basically any ideas you have about improving your value property is frozen for the vast majority of states, they have about you lessening year they have to act or the way again. In North Carolina there was no time limit whatsoever. This gave the power to the state tremendous amount, power, and walk people like James Nelson in four years if not decades.

I've never really heard of this law, however, they use it in Winston-Salem back in 1997 in restricted hundreds and hundreds of properties and didn't pay for in the owners wall sort of stuck waiting for the department in the department never really got around to funding that road and building it so that had festered since the 90s through the two albums until 2009 house on the market in November 2006, $73 it's now better than it was. Let's sell this house and let's go find something else we want to build realtor comes out sign in the yard. She does her due diligence. She comes back and she said literally about two weeks been on the market. Problem, she said your houses can be taken by the deity as it is not right for houses down away from us, through our yard were not taken her house. She said oh yes they are either taken your house to come in all the way the corner all know now what she said well I think the market there is no other buyer for your house other than the DOT by your house knowing that eventually arose coming through and your only buyer is the deity okay will this is interesting. What we do and that might not. This is not right right you can't just tell me I can't tell us we can't sell our house. I and good faith is a realtor cannot sell your house to anyone so we took the house off the market and we sent there okay now in one of Matthew's business clients was also a victim. The role company was sitting on a very valuable piece of property that was no underutilized.

It was basically that the part used cars on it goes for 20 years the department had not let it or that about 15 years and not let it get a building permit to do anything because it was trying to keep property prices down for its ultimate acquisition of properties in my immediate reaction on that day in light of summer 2009 was that cannot possibly be the wall. It struck me immediately as violative of your right to freely use your property as long as it conforms to zoning, they can't stop me from doing something legally permissible. All my property said they can't stop was doing things legally so I said okay will figure this out and in the span of a day or two.

I figure that this kind of legal gimmick had been used is not to novel you want to play some less resulting just don't let anybody freely use it and the price will go down. They had done this thing 25 or six times throughout the state. Will you try that in Florida in the early 90s, and it'd been almost immediately challenged and struck down as unconstitutional and we simply can't do this. The department will tell them to just give us the building permit bias and will tell them this is why the will and we went back and forth with the Department of Transportation and the no interest in considering what we were doing or really undoing their activists of restricting these properties and so they told us to just jump off a cliff. I said we gotta do something about this in the client.

You often about partners also yeah this is unconstitutional. Let's go figure out what to do and listening to our rule of law series North Carolina legislators and the DOT clearly violating rule of law by completely disregarding their own citizens. Constitutional rights to own property and not have it taken without just compensation. Messy eminent domain) the domain because these people referred to in the story all to make their own jobs easier and by the way, to bring down the price of the so-called good of the taxpayer. If you can't negotiate with anybody but the department of transportation you find out the real value of your home. What happens next in the story.

Will the rule of law ultimately rain, North Carolina will find out next after the spring. This is our American school, this is Tori, and Jenny with the 90210 MG podcasts we have such a special episode brought to you by near attack ODT we recorded at at iHeartRadio type event windows handout.

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The DOT was going. We can't do anything in the midst of this mess with the friends of her side. I think I even commented one time difference of recycling of friends of ours because you know they were they were fighting against the highway being built near the house. We can we can't sell because the DOT has a map honestly says you can take our house, but we don't know when the total mass. Thankfully, the lawsuit was dismissed in 2010 and around this time Paula met Beverly Reynolds, whose family business had a property that couldn't be expanded or sold. Because of this map and she said well let's have a meeting while she got Steve Trenton, who was the head of the DOT happened to be so, somehow, either she got him to come to our meeting, I went out and put flyers in mailboxes that were having a meeting at 7 o'clock on this date. Please be present. Go find out what happened. 6570 people that meeting and of course that's when Steve Trenton stood there in front of all of us in 2010 instead don't know when and wherever can you build your highway. I don't know when, whatever, can take your houses but sure you're in the map and we are the buyer houses but we can't tell you when it could be 25 years before we think we all just come around.

You can't you just cannot stand here and say something to these people that their lives. Is there there like their jobs there. He just just didn't care. I guess he was trying to be honest with us, but he seemed very cold about the whole thing irrevocably said go find some other plaintiffs in turn this into a class action, which we met with owners. They had a big meeting.

They as you will hear or is conversant is anybody on the face of the earth about the wrongs the government can do when it thinks it's doing good for the public and Paula Smith who I think I may have called her name before we showed up within seconds. When a citizen but he will do it. She's up to the front. We hesitate again. I think Mr. Trenton Guyette had the DOT say it could be another 25 years has been elected to others that this is not right. We have to do something in Matthew he wanted somebody to join the lawsuit believed I'm not that kind of person that around and do nothing troubled because I just believe that you gotta stand up for yourself Paula and Kenny were always the face of the litigation class action so we said to everyone, the more people we get the more weight it has no don't charge up the hill.

The opponent with five people you soon. 500 people of by the time we started showing up at the appellate courts we had 50 or 60 cases in the next time we visited. We had 70, 80 or not we had maybe 90 days every time we show that we had more cases in the Supreme Court and the judges and justices knew this so yes the fact that this was statewide and on such a large scale, and not just a little one off in some little town, someplace absolutely David gravity my daughter Court of Appeals hearing went to in Raleigh and she was made by is really really bad course 20 something like this is really fun to watch the court room to pack. Matthew good job of getting people to go to the court rooms and being unicorns and the judge Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court see that you know real people are being affected people in this room are the ones being affected. Meetings of the church is meeting the court hearings and you look in the majority people likable.

I took these ribs and these people that are in these rooms are all in, probably mid 60s to late 60s to 78 people have lived in their homes, their whole lives are there family farms and things like that. He had no care, no compassion for these people whatsoever and passed away in another family. They couldn't finalize because the DOT is holding on to their land, and will pay a mountain like what they were doing and it was just wrong, I'm glad we thought it was really happy to see that this case was ultimately brought up to North Carolina Supreme Court and the mass effect was overturned in 2019.

After more than 30 years of people entering them in about no person who wanted to retire in Florida was unable to sell their home died in that home because they were stuck highly of the map back as it was supposed to save taxpayers money by giving the state power to hold onto land until needed to be developed in pale price, but in fact it is incredible. In terms of how much this is far as homeowners have fought for their property rights preference are constitutionally guaranteed, have sued the state and now are owed money that is many times multiple of the original in the lawsuits. According to one estimate could cost the state over billion dollars.

So this is an unfortunate road, so to speak that the state took whatever they have saved they are now having to pay for it. You know if it has increased their anticipated acquisition cost in today's dollars to her threefold.

The judge says these people are entitled to interest back to the date of the taking, so the date of the taking was for us was 2008 8% interest, which was a nice sum of money and the conflict Dragging this out court a lot more money for health 2019 and we would've gotten her house in 2010, but it's because they just kept writing and writing in my own backyard. There are 3000 people who have property rights that is very similar to a country other than setting for 15 years Zimbabwe. In fact, they have the worst property rights in the entire country and what I did was I simple let's pretend that this area outside of my city is a little country.

Let's stack it up against a well-known property rights index put out by the Heritage foundation think tank based in Washington DC which is a very well-regarded property rights index and what I did when I put in years with the power you have to sell your product years are to upgrade your property. Here's the power I found out that in fact the people have property rights that were equal to living in some of the worst countries in the world that would be places like Zimbabwe or Cuba. That's why I named the title for my articles. This North Carolina or Zimbabwe how property rights in North Carolina deteriorated to the level of the Third World country.

What we have learned is that your average Joe does not like lawyers does not like the government loves their property and would rather be left alone leases is going through the living room so we had to overcome their distrust of lawyers and their distrust of the government and their distrust of the court system and they have all been rewarded with put their faith in us and that is a reward beyond the money we pay people.

It's a professional rewarded. I gather most people don't get have in their career and is very gratifying. Beginning ulterior almost over. I can let my emotions get the best of me now because it's over. It is indeed over what voices we heard there was a story about property rights great storytelling by Alex Cortez is always rule of law in North Carolina's map back to the longer this is our very consumers