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Stalin’s Daughter: American Citizen, Wisconsin Cheesehead?!

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August 10, 2022 3:00 am

Stalin’s Daughter: American Citizen, Wisconsin Cheesehead?!

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August 10, 2022 3:00 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and America’s Cup winner Bill Koch doesn’t like being cheated. Tom Acitelli, author of Pilsner: How The Beer of Kings Changed The World, tells the story of how America's favorite drink came here and stayed here despite a world war and Prohibition. When 85-year-old Lana Peters passed away in 2011 from complications due to colon cancer, the nation seemed to have forgotten the woman who had become a sensation during the Cold War.  The History Guy recalls the extraordinary life of the woman whose defection to the United States represented a seminal moment in history.

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00:00 - The Man Who Spent $35MM Fighting A $400k Fake Wine Fraud

10:00 - How The Pilsner Arrived, Survived, and Thrived in America

35:00 - Stalin’s Daughter: American Citizen, Wisconsin Cheesehead?!

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This is Lee Habib and this is our American story this next story well is our rule of law series we tell stories about what happens in the rule of law is present or absent in our lives now. If they bring us an unusual story from a guy named Bill Cope and entrepreneur with 1300 employees is built. What I really like looking at a great painting tell the love artist in creating and to me that's precious and that's what creates in my radar love on the artist and then food to know that outstanding chef invitations that only got to stay stiff, a lot a lot of measurements and a lot of energy on and the same as bricklayer really loves his work takes all your care.

Other than slapping together and the same thing with one great one really taste the love that Mary had a million. So that to me is highly offensive from someone's thinking. Bill found out that for bottles that were sold to him is Thomas Jefferson's war and that he found out that more words to. There's a huge code of silence because the faker doesn't want moments thinking them little man selling the wine does Roy want to know. In fact, is one big auction house that was selling a lot of wine in New York and auctions they had to have this retailer deal with them was the nylons retail shops selling off-site wantonness and had in-house counsel versus the outhouse counsel said authenticity is an opinion and were not in the opinion business when the business of making our margin.

Just ignore and then the guys who by the fate they find out it's fake.

They want to get rid of it get their money back primarily either dump it into the auction market are they given to a charity auction off are they find some sucker mind of the fake ones I bought were from charity auctions because the guy gave to you got a tax deduction on some others might gotta mainly make psychotic and so I decided amount of on crusade a legal crusade to shine a bright light on it and I also I guess because when I was younger I was taken advantage of by people when I was naïve so I so I just hate being cheated, hated one of the figures actually offered to give Bill all of his money back and Bill said no were going to court to write well I ended up in one real long lawsuit which we won hands down. And then after that everybody want to settle. There was one guy who said well I so do these fake bottles would you get back to me so I can get back to the guy that sold me so I said all right I will. But then I engraved on the bottles counterfeit, gave it back to. I haven't heard from him since one big faker sent me a fax saying are you worried about fake wine.

Even Jesus turned water into wine and I was hoping I could get him into a cork in the Bible Belt, but I couldn't. One guy had a huge collection of pre-World War II models of Petros's one of the best ones in the world and oversized models, and I bought a bottle of 1921 Petros Senate double magnum and I opened it up to select the cheapest one I've ever had and that it there was article about the wine that Howells found who found it, etc. and rated 100 out of hundred. That's why bought this model and what the guy did the faker I made a hearty run stock report in 1957.

One model made a fake label found the place where he bought a bottle and we found that the labels printed and supported 271 put in some juice made it taste cold spell. I said what he did was put loose person for me and we took this model to pictures and they said they never make big bottles pre-1945 and this one guy have this huge collection of huge bottles of me up and said, are all bottles fake's and yeah how do you know when we went to Petra size of the never made up the so my God, and then a month later he called up and said to buy these bottles for me.

I supply so welts good evidence. I said well I don't pay you all just subpoena you. Unfortunately, crusades turned out to be long and very expensive. Bill has spent $35 million going after the faker's over what was originally a $400,000 in fraud and some might say that's her crusade not worth spending 87 1/2 times the cost but for Bill Cope. It is saying is it about the wines meetings a little bit about the winds. Bill could've bought new wines for far less what it's really about him is the rule of law and bills pursuit of the rule ended up exposing an industry tens of millions of fake wine. I try to say well it's bad business to treat God and pray job is always by Alex and thanks to Bill Cope rule of law series because let's face it. Sometimes the cops can't get these people and sometimes let's face it, no one else can sometimes be the citizens have to go out and find these figures, but if we can't bring them to a court of law. If we can't have the rule of law then we have nothing at all. Bill Cope story his crusade against fake wine and again, and against fake everything here on our American stores view of the great American stories we tell and love America like we do, were asking you to become a part of the All-American stories family. If you agree that America is a good and great country. Please make a donation monthly gift of $17.76 is fast becoming a favorite option for support to our American stories.com now go to the donate button and help us keep the great American stories coming out American stories.com and we continue here with our American stories and up next story on one of America's favorite beverages is around Monty Montgomery story. We Americans enjoy our beer in 2018.

We consumed about 6.8 billion gallons of and by far the most popular style we drink is Pilsner years Tom Hackett selling author of Pilsner Europeans change the world with more Pilsner is the dominant style of beer in the world and has been for well over 100 years. All the major brands you can think of Budweiser, Bud Light, Miller light Heineken Are based on Pilsner for imitations of the Pilsner style everywhere there, you know, every grocery store, bar bodega, you name it spells it was first made in a small, but was that inside city of the Austrian Empire called Pilsen.

What's now the Czech Republic, the local aristocrats in Pilsen have the right to brew and sell beer locally.

They were getting tired of their beer their local beer getting beaten out of the marketplace by beers from Bavaria just over the border so the restaurants in Pilsen are like were tired of losing market share. These guys these Bavarians making these lighter, better beers so you co-opt what they're doing right. You can imagine how they regularly have meeting and meeting after meeting memos and manifestoes about how to can with Bavarian beer and knock it out of the marketplace in Pilsen.

So what they do is they hire a Varian brewmaster name Joseph Kroll who uses Bavarian know-how Bavarian recipes Bavarian techniques utterances for imports.

German technique and style over the border and makes this beer. Further, the burgers for the aristocrats of Pilsen to sell and he ends up making in late 1842 notes lost to history. Whether Kroll himself attended this to happen, but the specific ingredients used in the waterfall the local water quality is very important brewing.

Then as now turned out the latest looking beer.

Anyone ever seen up to that point before that beer for millennia is dark and it's thick and it's rich like liquid bread. They were the color of sunshine Pilsner was this longer made in Pilsen in 1842 looks beautiful right it's it's probably it's clear it's crisp when you tasted the beer that's unlikely that he is ever seen. Right from the get-go.

Pilsner is extremely unique and it quickly grows in popularity first in the Austrian Empire that in central Europe, and then basically all of you all over the world for the present-day it picking out the best time to be born in the best time to leave home because borderless kind of supernova of technological change and political change, especially in Europe. The technological change at all is everything from the mass production class, which you never have before.

And in the history of humanity, because Posa looks great in a glass looks great. Borderless great glass bottles the technology for fighting bacteria infection which can be deadly to beer and Debbie to your sales comes along.

Around the same time brewing techniques temperature measurement.

All that is sort of blossoming around time is Joseph Rose doing those first batches in Pilsen and also have stuff like the railroad for better shipping the first mechanical refrigeration starts up because Pilsner like most log abuse. Unlike ales taste better: it's easy to preserve to what the political changes really what's first Pilsen story from a local legend tell you why face there's all these revolutions encounter revolutions in Europe and a lot of Germans and Czechs the turmoil they were done with these wars and fighting as they settled in the United States. A lot of them there were there about a million million Germans immigrated to the US in the 1850s alone.

They find most opportunity farther in. They settled in cities like Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis. They take their preference for lighter loggers and lighter color loggers and lighter tasting loggers United States, and of course the dominant style by then is so that's how it spread basically anywhere you Germans in the mid-to-late 19th century were to have beer and the beer was overwhelmingly going to be Pilsen wherever Germans go they bring this to this Jones the light a lot with the winds of the Industrial Revolution at their back these immigrants created some of the most recognizable names in the beer industry today including Anheuser-Busch Anheuser and Adolphus Busch were fought alongside a lot and became business partners. Adolphus Busch basely rescued his father-in-law's business. He had a brewery that was failing right so after the Civil War the early 1860s.

Adolphus Busch begins to build the Anheuser-Busch brewing company into this mega conglomerate, and he does it largely from behind a recipe for Pilsner imitation that he gets a business partner of his who'd been traveling in Europe and knew of the popularity of this lighter color, lighter tasting loggers called Pilsen brings it back to Adolphus Parsons. Can you make this morning. He does eventually acquires the rights to it. They name it after check town called advice for Budweiser and that becomes just a sensation from the late 1870s onward for many the reasons that you know Pilsner itself became a sensation looks good.

It looked modern look good in the class look good in a bottle. Anheuser-Busch is the biggest bottler of any foodstuff at the time in the late 19 century just takes off from there. I know that there was sort of an arms race in the late 1900s between Frederick Pabst and Adolphus Busch to have kind of the biggest Marie in the US and perhaps the world and they were both racing each other with Pilsner's and Bush's case was Budweiser perhaps case was out will know now know, is Pabst blue ribbon. Because of this arms race. They end up just full of sweeping all before them competition wise and end up as you know the kings of brewing. By 1900. By the 19 teens and because of that, because that race Pilsner gets more and more ubiquitous in more and more unavoidable, and increasingly on the radar of temperance advocates wanting to end the sale and consumption of alcohol in the US back in the 1900s writers a server movement to improve the United States. I many many cases, well-intentioned and one of the ways to improve it is to cut back on overconsumption of alcohol now the US in the early 1900s was not a beer country it was whiskey whiskey and cider, and Americans drank a tremendous amount compared with the rest of world European visitors who chronicled her business. The USO was noted how much and how frequently Americans drink so there was an understandable temperance movement disorder, slow things down. Then what happens. You have this mass integration Germans and they bring with them a different way of drinking in a different type of drink they bring lighter loggers, which are much, much lower in alcohol and whiskey and drinking beer gardens in the beer gardens of family affairs and Germans are still young. Despite the drink this beer noted for their industriousness and their hard work. So insert clashes with what the temperance advocates have been telling people for decades that if you drink, you know you're gonna be derelict in desolate not contributing I can get off work the next morning etc. etc. German-Americans disrupt this narrative and so the temperance movement has to turn its efforts toward combating beer as well and they also have to turn their efforts toward combating the Brewers behind the beer and they have a very tough time of it, but they get a boon from World War I America's enemy in World War I. Of course, was the German Empire so the temperance advocates sees on American skittishness about German culture war ends in late 1918 prohibition passes 1919 takes effect in 1920.

I really would've happened speed.

It did without the war in the anti-German feelings that were engendered just fascinating slice of life and culture. When you realize what happened over the 70 years and or and and how Pilsner and beer is right in the middle of an Great American storytelling and history through the lens of beer when we come back more of this remarkable story of how the beer of kings change the world story of Pilsner continues year on our American story, and we returned to our American stories and the stories of the Pilsner at the telly, author of Pilsner of the fear of kings world we last left off anti-German sentiment in the US was at an all-time high. Because of World War I and prohibition went into effect, impacting Brewers profamily. Let's pick up we last left off with animosity towards Germans and German culture at an all-time high. After World War I, the 18th amendment was passed, ushering in prohibition with their market dried up Brewers were forced to set aside beer and make other products to survive Pilsner was put on hold some and made near beer they switch to you know alcohol that can be used in in machinery but a lot of them didn't survive.

It's a much smaller field of Brewers in the United States.

Post-1933 when prohibition ends and what that means is the ones who could survive who could get by. Who could skirt disaster. They come out with the ability to grow very fast there there reach expands and you see this massive consolidation in the industry where the big get bigger and smaller kind of disappear before prohibition became the law of the land. There were over 4000 breweries in the United States in 1975 there were 115 in this writing Pilsner starts to have a wider cultural effect. Marketing culture becomes such a no acute focus of these bigger breweries that they start to really innovate when it comes to advertising, marketing to get the quirky beer jingles to get the cartoon characters you get the sports partnerships and a number of things we all know today what I remember.

Our favorite taglines like taste great, less filling all you ever wanted a beer and lasts until all those no champagne of beers etc. etc. that comes about. After prohibition, it helps Pilsner growth reach wider and hopefully breweries get that much bigger Budweiser's the Millers. They grew and grew and grew closer become so big you couldn't get away from it. The first big change comes when the Miller Brewing Company, which had recently been acquired by Philip Morris tobacco giant. They were laser focused on growing from I think there the eighth or ninth biggest Marie in the country. They wanted to be number two behind Anheuser-Busch.

They know that the Maccabee number one. Anheuser-Busch is so far ahead of any Brewer Maine except for Heineken in the entire world and how they do that they introduce Miller light. This is the one I'm moving on to note that there is less calories than the regular, less filling. Also like kind of changes in there is a light here's the but they marketing it always been toward people who maybe want a dieter lose weight but the problem is if they try to lose weight that I collect here at all letters lower in calories. Not so Miller light basically presented itself as quote a low-calorie beer that tasted like the they wanted to be known as just fear that was low-calorie so they had. Dave came up with the famous tagline you everything you wanted beer and less became the scatter sensation, light beer, just quick aside know this is another example of Pilsner's influence in a Miller light, put a fine Pilsner right on the bottle still feel the labels today but you know light LI TE or LIGHT seeped into all sorts of foodstuffs that point on the 1970s you have light everything but back to beer so light beer happens in a becoming of certain Pilsner becomes even even bigger more influential the United States that essentially become a beer desert but things were about to change that would lead to a whole new industry being developed by innovating entrepreneurs you had a growing number of people mostly home brewers and their fans wanted more variety court should of these beers that all seem to look and taste the same. And indeed they did they start reading closer underground because homebrewing was illegal in the United States asserted for proposed prohibition in America. The federal government forgot to legalize the legalized winemaking coming out of prohibition but not homebrewing but then that happens in 1978 as a push on from California lawmakers and homebrewed business in California to have it homebrewing legalize at the federal level that happens night early 1978 and takes effect in 1979.

But what exactly that's what brings his home brewers out of the shadows. People began openly sharing information and they began openly selling sharing materials and recipes to have this for the blossoming of underground entrepreneurial spirit turning pro and as we get the sort of the first proliferation of small breweries in the United States late 1970s and 1980s jettison fusion of knowledge and you have this counter reaction to the rise of light beer if you want a richer tasting beer in the 1970s up to that point yet to make it yourself or you had to like chance upon it while you know in Europe or something like that but suddenly you start to see the growth of microbreweries bills are still dominant and still dominant today, but you now have the service kaleidoscope of styles and breweries.

Today there are over 8000 breweries in the United States.

That's over double of what existed before prohibition in the big reason why these breweries exist is the Pilsner and its oversaturation in the market during the 1970s. Everything old is new again, and today the Pilsner is having a remarkable resurgence among even the people who try to get away from all those years ago how history repeats itself in beer is very much of a cyclical physical thing any people discover and rediscover different styles and different approaches all the time and I think those are just kind of having a moment because craft brewing was a reaction opposes rise and now I think the supervisor Pilsner within craft brewing is a reaction to craft brewing's rise of the defining feature defining characteristic of IPAs is bitterness is higher than bitterness from hops and so sort of overwhelming prickly crispness. Send no alcoholic Kickin so if you want something different.

When you do you know you turn to a lighter tasting sweeter beer and that's Pilsner you could not have had this counter reaction toward Pilsner without the rise of bitter IPAs and the other heavier seasonal beers and then importers nails all that without those you wouldn't have this reaction again, you would have those without the rise of those original so it's it's kind of also intersected insight to this thing. This is to many countries and federal governments or national governments regulate style and ingredients proportions of ingredients in wine and spirits. But that's not the case for beer. You can call yourself whatever you want the US as long as you follow some guidelines as far as what you put on your label drafted use or lesser proportion below grapes if you call yourself a Merlot wine and Merlot. You have to use a certain proportion or certain type of topic. A copy of your IPA so the lens itself is experimentation in the marketplace. I think that's, wonderful thing because it creates this experimental dynamics and that brings everything full-circle to because what is Pilsner to begin with. It was somebody hundred and 70 years ago experimenting with existing styles and ideas until I came up something new that's still going on today and a special thanks to Monty Montgomery for that piece in Monty's I believe Monty's passion is beer sampling every kind possible.

Also, Tom Catelli.

Special thanks to him. He's the author of Pilsner of the beer of kings change the world. I keep thinking about that line were Germans go they bring their Pilsner. Think about that with Italians to win their contribution with food and Mexican Americans, Chinese-Americans, and this is what we do here. We eat each other's food that we marry each other. The story of Pilsner and the story of so much more American history and American life and culture beer on our American stories and we continue with our American stories and we love telling stories about history are Nick story comes to us for a man who simply known as the street guy's videos watched by hundreds of thousands of people of all ages over on YouTube. History has also heard here in our American stories.

Here's the history guy with a real beauty. The story of Stalin's daughter November 22, 2011, and 85-year-old woman named La peters passed away in Wisconsin from complications due to colon cancer. Eventually her death made it into some newspapers, but it seemed to go largely unnoticed by the American public that single largely forgotten who she was and all the attention that she had gained during one of the seminal event of the Cold War that happened March 9, 1967 Mount peters, otherwise known as Svetlana Ellie gave represented the contradictions the ear of the Cold War and was witness some of the greatest crimes that are she's most known because of her famous father but is perhaps most notable because of how very different. She was from him that affection of the woman whose birth name was Svetlana stumping the youngest child and only daughter of Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin deserves to be remembered born. Yes, if you guess you believe Imperial state of Georgia and part of the Russian Empire making 78 Joseph Stalin already had a reputation for brutality when he was arrested in exile by desires, government in 1908 he had purportedly been responsible for bank robbery, 1907 that he killed some 40 people and had as what history put it established himself as Georgia's leading Bolshevik it was sometime during this period that he started using the name Stalin, meaning roughly man of steel. After the October Revolution style became a trusted supporter of Vladimir Lenin in a vocal supporter of the brutal.

The political repression and mass execution called the red terror appointed People's commissar for nationalities in 1919, Sergei and Olga's daughter days that worked as a clerk in Lenin's office as his secretary to marry later the same year. At the time the days that was 18. Stalin was a 40-year-old widower's first wife, having died of typhus in 1907 Stalin Levi had two children vastly organizing 21 and Svetlana born in 1926 at the time of her birth. Stalin was general secretary of the Soviet Union had largely gained the upper hand in the struggle to replace Lenin.

Following his death in 1924 is intrigue continued in the Soviet Union.

Stalin's daughter was fêted by both the survey people, and her father showered her with gifts and culture little sparrow became a celebrity in her country compared to Shirley Temple in the United States, thousands of babies were name Svetlana. So was a perfume but being the daughter of the man of steel did not lead to an easy destiny while she was being treated like Shirley Temple civic collectivization of the agricultural sector, essentially forcing peasants on the collective farms was resulting in various periods of famine over the period of collectivization. An estimated 14 million people die due to starvation. On November 9, 1932 Yosef in the days that had a public argument about collectivization policy and a dinner party. I got home that evening she went into a separate room to vent stand all her death is reported is because with appendicitis. Children vastly was 11 and that lot of just six were told the same for fear thank you the truth, that they might accidentally reveal it. Svetlana did not know the truth of how her mother died until she rented an American newspaper 1942, nearly 6 decades later, she was quoted saying I do regret that my mother didn't marry a carpenter, will she still enjoys her father's favor with the notoriously unsentimental starling and playing the games with her, she and her siblings were also the great pressure to be examples to the Soviet people.

Even Svetlana was not free from the brutality of her father's regime. In December 1934 when 30 Q for the revolutionary cause for the stones was assassinated, Stalin use the event as a provocation for the great purge facsimiles during argue that it was Stalin was behind Carol's murder pretext for the repressive effort to purge what Stalin called enemies of the people, including counterrevolutionaries and essentially anyone was a threat. Stalin's power Monday as many as one in 1/4 million victims of the purge was nonstandard spinach.

The brother Stalin's first wife and stepmom and was a favorite uncle more relatives were removed as well solicit modest school friends whose once privilege lies were shattered when the parents were deemed untrustworthy when she protested to her father on behalf of one of her friends, her father replied to his 14-year-old daughter. Sometimes you are forced to go against even those you love.

She later said that he took years to grasp the extent of her father's crime in 1943 six Atlanta met and fell in love with the liquor Kappler was married in 23 years her senior calculator said that he was gone to Svetlana by that freedom within her. Stalin disapproved for numerous reasons, but was suspected he was most insulted by the fact that Kappler was Jewish. Kappler was arrested and charged with being a pretty spot that was assume the actual crime was the indiscreet affair was Stalin's daughter Stella destroyed the letter to admit each other banish that money from his house because of moral depravity and even punished her brother's home to admit Kappler and the grandparents for failing to intervene.

Kappler was eventually imprisoned 10 years when Stalin's purges continued after the war they considered more of Donna's family, including her mother's sister when she tried to intervene with her father on her aunt's behalf. Stella made it clear to her that she also could be a key March 2, 1953 she was called in class. Her father had suffered a cerebral hemorrhage and was nine, Stalin lingered for four days.

She believed God grants an easy death only to the just the family had difficulty blaming the man who been both patriarch and billet even as family members returned from the gulags they became convinced that it wasn't Stalin's fall that someone else was responsible for making them a political target that Stalin had been poisoned against the prisoners returning from the gulags were compelling evidence of the crimes of Stalin the new leader who was consolidating power Nikita Khrushchev. Some bring down the culture. Stalin is critical to retaining the support of the people by then Svetlana had had two failed marriages and had two children in 1957 to escape the stigma of her father's name. She went to her mother's maiden name became sick, have you waiver she wanted to love affairs flirted with different religions spent another year on their failed marriage and later said of her.

She was a very kind and warmhearted person but was impossible to escape her terrible heritage she could trust anyone. Could you if you were Stalin stop. She alternatively had to deal with people who sought to associate with her help getting some favor and others to load her for her father's crimes in 1963 on the hospital for tonsillectomy. Svetlana met an Indian national named by just seeing she sought to marry him that required state permission and once again she suffered from the curse of being Stalin's daughter seeing died from emphysema. In October 1966 Svetlana was allowed to travel to guessing his traditional funeral so she did not talk to any foreign reporters. She was staying at the guesthouse of the Soviet Embassy in Delhi and on March 9, 1967 no one apparently suspected her mother when she went outside the Entered the US Embassy in India presented her Soviet passport and ask for asylum the request of the Americans completely off guard, Chester Bowles, US ambassador to India did. Even though Stalin had a dollar for less that she was visiting India was put Svetlana on the next plane to anywhere but Moscow consider with the diplomat, actually a CIA agent is escort to Rome.

The assessment by the CIA at the time was our own preconceived notions of what Stalin's daughter must be like this didn't let us believe that this nice, pleasant, attractive, middle-aged could possibly be who she claimed to be for the Avis defection required a lot of political maneuvering. She has been time both in Italy and then in Switzerland before she could finally go to the United States.

The Soviets tried to portray her as crazy Connor shook our cuckoo bird later was revealed that the KGB had made plans to either kidnap her or assassinate her, but they decided not to because it would be too easy to trace back to that United States married one last time. Between 1970 and 1973 to an architect named William peters had a daughter named Olga by the name Lana peters for the rest of her life in 1978 she became a US citizen set by the 1984 Sheena got her all the returned to the Soviet Union, but she found she was shunned there and you know the return to the United States in 1986 when author Nicholas Thompson decided he wanted to interview her for a book he was doing on US Soviet relations. During the Cold War in 2006 into a public records search to find her. She was living in Wisconsin when she passed away in November 2011 the New York Times found it difficult even confirm her debt, which wasn't even reported in the local newspaper, but it does seem that the woman who was so unlike her father had finally escaped father shall and a special thanks as always to Greg Hendler the production and a special thanks as always to the history guy please subscribe to his YouTube channel. The history guy history deserves to be remembered. The story of Lana peters becomes an American citizen in 1978, but never ever. I would guess is ever truly home anywhere or story here on our American stories