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Matt slick reported welcome. Oh good time listening is a nice Friday who might do some textile prep for the show window got caught off guard by the music, but here we are worked out just right. And if you want to give me a call five open lines all you do is dial 877-207-2276 and for those of you who love hate mail so I always look forward to do so, whether you go now to watch the show will you do go to Karma.org/Scott C ARM.org and the right-hand side you will see the link there for the video you watch it check me out.

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Alright, alright, alright now we have nobody waiting if you want to call me 877-207-2276 because it's Friday email. I love hate mail and I know that a lot of people are already plotting in the in the chat room so just right and I get I get a kick out of it by doing I hope you enjoyed Bible study last night that I taught on Romans and you may notice I did different presentation on the video and the audio on that and hope that you enjoyed that. It is a good positive feedback on that make things better so that the viewers enjoy it more. Alright, having said all of that.

Let's get to earlier this year we submitted while this is good to whom it may concern. Earlier this year we submitted to 300 international theologians 30 sees cc way on some concepts of conventional theology in relation to the future of the solar system. I love stuff like this because it's about the future of the solar system. You know Flicka just walked into a convention one day you would like. What is this walk-in and this is what there's some guy up there talking right behind them of the solar system. And this we submitted 30 mL to 300 international folk theologians on the future of the solar system because it's in jeopardy.

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I'd like to watch this sit enjoy it.

That's what I would do I take notes okay when you say you know talk about the regulator to continue the recipients cover a wide range of faith groups. Since then we have received a number of thoughtful contributions. These encourage us to continue these discussions, one contributed or contributor suggested that this may lead us on the path towards a new perspective on theology, on the check she would do so. We anticipate to collect these contributions in a discussion document okay so the theses was a feces with the sun is the primary source of energy, without which we as we understand it, the creation let's see, let's each living thing takes up energy. Wow that's deep. The sun creates the energy by a process known to create energy just transformed to daughter for let's see we can assume that this process consumes part of the source of that energy on the seriousness of the this we can assume that the source of the energy is unlimited talk about so let's see we have no reason to assume that her son is not similar to or even identical to other stars is not similar or even identical to check that we have no reason, we have no reason to assume that our son is not similar, or even identical to other stars. What does that mean not similar or even identical. People asked me questions you know and to be talking in OC policy.

What you saying understand what you're saying.

Can you help me out here, what are you saying and then explain more of the same and I say them. I still don't understand your site. Anyway, we have no reason to assume in the thoughts of the predicted course of astronomical events challenges the traditional concept of a creator God really it does while you begin to understand the astronomical course of events. We realize that the ancient creator concept of God needs to be reconsidered. Okay this is what you need to see my face okay your Dragon longer really, what would my face look like the combination of the state. I was walking under a tree and a couch fell out of it and a kangaroo walked by and then a paper airplane flew and hit me in the head all at the same time looking to face let me make it what that's what I'm doing now. Okay, let's see. Alexi in this new reality Abraham religions need to rethink the concept of a creator God, wow. In the new reality of things this guy is saying that's completely obvious and does and he's got some things wrong is understand now to new reality. We need to rethink the creator God. This is the opportunity to better understand the principles of our religions and find peace amongst them. The first step would be removing from their teaching all differences which arrive which arise solely from the religious and mythological man, I'd love to talk to this guy be like okay where you getting this this is good stuff. I enjoy the stuff. Alright let's see if Charlie says in the text. Sounds like my wife and I asked her if she likes one thing or another thing and she is yes it I wonder say anything's arrived know each other and not staying out of that one.

Alright let's see okay okay let's see see see about that. The valuable humanistic court of religious teaching should remain man this guy does not have all his pause in the litter box.

We need to understand to what extent a belief in a higher power has a positive influence on you.

Wow man is crayon box is missing a few colors while his tab doesn't work right that seem to get the oh yeah, I am applying for a chaplain position for a correctional institution in Wisconsin and I'm an atheist, you know, I'm applying for a position as an astrophysicist in the law and I'm a magician. So what you think.

What okay, I'd really appreciate a letter of endorsement for the idea of atheism as a religion are you enjoying this is much as I am, or you pained by the continuum.

I read some of the articles supporting the idea of atheism is a religion.

He did not understand or say that there are religious aspects to two atheism when you go to conventions is what I wrote about Axel. He was on I can establish I can establish precedent in the correctional institution. I might eventually be able to shove myself to shove mice into the Army as a chaplain home man. If interested in endorsing this idea please send the letter a short letter of endorsement with your contact information to my email at blah blah blah that include your stance on the idea atheist clergy you know you know is quantum tunneling doesn't end, stars, star clusters are too imbalanced.

Let's take I'm an atheist and majoring in religious studies at whatever it is, some University I'm active in 33. Throughout public free thought groups. I'd love to talk it is I do atheist weddings and I have a small websites blah blah we are likely to agree on this for every different.

What we are likely to agree on this for every different reasons that satisfy very different agendas seat commodity and regulator make it make sense okay we are likely to agree on this for every different reasons that satisfy very different agendas, but it is an agreement nonetheless and I do you a fairly obvious favor in requesting this. It's fairly obvious that obvious it's fairly obvious I'm doing you a favor by requesting this so Matt, I'm doing you a fairly obvious favor by asking you to endorse me as an atheist chaplain who want to shut himself into the Army. You know so much heresy, so little time. How can people actually drive cars talk like this wonder. Okay cool. You get a break and do another one it will get to the colors of the brick Boykin with predestination and free will be interesting is another hate mail. Alright, he goes on to accommodate Miller shaped like an altogether, you sure do not know anything about what Muslims believe, you will answer to God for your slanderous talk I written over 100 articles on atheism and I got to the hadith, the Quran, I got to trust fear. I've got to talk to many many many eight Muslims and he says I don't know anything about what Muslims believe. Even though I've debated up and read their material.

He says many Christians are very good and hate speech only to Mandan in the Quran 551 so do not take Jews and Christians as your friends because her friends one another all yeah but we're good hate speech while many Christians are very good hate speech, wounding the sinner and generally not doing the will of God. We are called to heal the sick, not persecute them while I talked with the cattle call the pot black work because that is whacked. Islam is a dangerous violent religion of condemnation, judgment and hatred while alright let's break break after the break destination free will to be a serious topic at the five minutes this guy goes on is why do you only allow atheist who don't know anything on onto your show sets. We do EC. We have the caller the be the screen or keep the screens. Do you know anything that I got nothing. Okay you commit okay that's what happens right actually do. Why do you not allow when you only allow atheist who don't know anything, so wow is good stuff. Is it because you're scared someone like Christopher Hitchens and Richard Hawkins would easily prove your insane involvement in amateurs like Andrew prove nothing all you might give your best bathers and musically right back after these messages with Dave Selleck city of predestination and free will forth in lines 877-207-2276 mass Y call 77077.

Here is Matt's leg into Dave Salt Lake City. Dave welcome here.

I'm not doing all right. Having fun with the with hate mail and stuff enjoying. I have a good sense of humor. I do know that minutes. What predestination. Now I understand that God is all-knowing to understand that… The how shall we fit about that happening now. I you and why to the we know that, but I don't. I understand that the Bible offers pre-got me and I don't understand like God now but did you fill out like the lack you well like how does that work.

We don't know who you lack wetness then be a light to everyone, we are trying to battle exiled.

I'm certain we can record some lecturing standups the show I got burned that I know what you're invited to charge you now trying to help them learn about Jesus. Obviously I try and be a light to them were getting any interaction I have with them but I also note that I give their their heart and mind close golf to it that it will. I think the question know though I know that effective thing as I get are they not a lot I is a possibility that they just not been selected by got ahead of time like that yes is possible but we don't know who is chosen. A lot of people don't like the idea of God choosing people for salvation. This is a second vessel is 213 is chosen is for salvation is what it says. Second Thessalonians 213 Ephesians 1 forces. He chose us in him before the foundation of the world that would be holy and blameless. This is got predestination in his work of election. Those whom he foreknew he also predestined Romans 829 so the idea of God's election predestination. Sorry folks, we don't like it that's your profile because that's what the Bible writers and authoritative people you know that's it right, and I believe that God ordered God for the godly that the gospel of the end, all-knowing and all loving God predestined certain people or how on not letting you yell at me, jumping you so before the foundation of the world before the universe existed. The only thing that is existing within it was existed was God himself. In the Trinitarian communion.

The father son and Holy Spirit. The father elected people for salvation they did it in the sun. This is Ephesians 14, he chose us in him before the foundation of the world. So this choosing is not based on anything in the future that God would see us do or some good quality in us and he chose us based on that. Are you making noise in the background or die.

There okay dinner okay and so he doesn't base his choice on anything in us. Otherwise that would show favoritism. God denies favoritism in James two children for so will and how does this work we don't know how God election don't know how. If you choose to know what he does, how he does with no that he doesn't a lot like it because they want salvation to be depended completely on themselves as if they themselves were wise enough in their sin to pick God that so-and-so crossed the street was not so they don't get what biblical theology is on teach a biblical theology and argue with people about alt ultimatum this with the Bible teaches. It teaches election predestination anybody denies it as a Christian is just denying truth denying the Scriptures now.

Then we get to the issue of phone Romans nine and Romans nine is a very interesting chapter not to go through it in detail, but it says Jacob I love Esau I hated. And it wasn't based on anything they would do and it goes on and talks about. While no injustice with God and God says all have mercy on whom I have mercy. I compassion whom I have compassion does depend on the man who won runs of the man wills is what this was going on as Paul the apostle called by Jesus Christ is teaching in Romans nine God's mercy and compassion, whom he desires. It is not dependent on the man who runs wills. That's what he says if people don't like that.

My suggestion is just never read Romans chapter 9 because it'll just be a stone in your theological shoe you will like it that would assess your question now becomes relevant to say to me then why does he still find fault for who resist his will on the contrary, who were you will manual entries back to God. The thing molded will not save the molder. Why did you make me like this will it or does not the potter have a right over the clay to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use another for common use.

What if God, although willing to demonstrate his wrath and to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction and he did so to make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory. Now this is a very difficult set of scriptures for a lot of people. And the reason is is because they follow the blonde hair blue like a patient server Jesus whose standing the door of your heart asking for you and your wisdom and your permission to let him in. This is the elevation of man and the reduction of God's majesty and sovereignty. People don't like this and the fact that don't like it is one of the signs of their own depravity not saved as spinner centers. It means that they're not submitting to the word of God people so I don't like it, why don't get the like is what it teaches. So this is that now people will say will why he does dinner except I've had people after I've read them. What I just read to you. I've had people say to me, why don't accept that okay North Dakota forgot your judging God's word and and then will do the same look. I believe that God makes everything for some purpose. Everything is made for the purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil. I believe that the dust in the signal. I don't do that again. He does I just quoted Proverbs 16 for the Lord is made everything for its own purpose. Even the wicked for the day of evil and people. They are taught. In my opinion this is a sore subject with me because you really couldn't touch a nerve in the cartridge in the church today. There are a lot of good preachers Lotta good teachers, but there's also an undercurrent of casual humanism. Humanism is man centeredness where man's a standard of righteousness, truth, freedom, and the American way. And so it's by man's choice that were to be saved by man's will that we are to find truth by man's will buy man's ability by man by man by man, because God would never do Bob Loblaw to violate my free will with her doing is elevating themselves and this is a problem in the church and they do that they invented theology. A lot of other areas there's a break. Hold on all that failure now all I gotta run not on the bus, but the folks for lines 877207276 man's like why call 77077 charismatic slave and welcome back to the show bottom of the hour throughput line 772072276 Kevin from New York. Welcome your near thank you for taking my phone call Ari a little bit melancholy with a little bit of obstreperous this just kind of tinged with just a minute amount of fatigue that I you asked you to do that lately people you store to last me how you do it I will give him something like that to get really chuckle when you pelting the last to you so, but it will have fun with it the right of the message about what every you have a little lag conflict or go ahead.

What I want to add about conversation with a skeptic God here so I agree to have a conversation with Dominic (and that premise one that God is the source and cause of all that is good in morality premise to God cannot do things that are contrary to his moral standard that I agree with that many outcomes is that the slaughter of babies is morally and he didn't want the first thing the 15th brought up the note documenting water all the malachite when he talked about Jennifer fix OUT of the hole right and so I stopped there and I said look, I know you're going and I said because God had infinite knowledge of all things.

He knew that these people would always be wicked, they would repent, though it is not evil, for God to take them out as children before they come to court, not because he knows what they would be.

Then the skeptics accused me of talking back and forth between objective and subjective morality laughed at my answer. I would you first of all, the second premise is to seek down when you say God cannot do anything that would contradict the old standard of morale is standard umbrella seeks okay God is the cause of good and stuff it's first of all cannot contradict cannot contradict some standard okay so here we go when we say that God is a cause of good what I'll do with an atheist and easy premises rental circuit. One would you be by cause and I think I'm not playing a game because are different levels of causation. There's ultimate this proximate energy efficient causation. Are you familiar with them for last atheist. This most atheist by far are not now say okay so you're not sure about the different issues a relationship of causation and moral culpability related to these you and discuss them right now, so that we can get your premise more defined premise one in order talk about usually number two God cannot concrete his own standard and the question then is is standard setting is arbitrary or substandard summary based on his nature because sometimes atheist with José as God is arbitrarily so you can do this and get to that now was not like that with mixer and an atheist is nothing to God as arbitrariness reasonings when it is conditional based on your circumstances.

This why God decide to do something is not it.

The morality of God is based on his own character and his essence. We can't concrete his own nature of your violation base of the laws of logic which examination of his essence in his nature, and the second law of non-contradiction will get into that too much. The slaughter babies is morally evil. This is what I would say to him, it is when you get that. But worse, it was legal right I never got to get the exactly what so what basis are you judging God like where you get your morals from his world okay your morals or your own opinion out the telomere correct okay so if you just more stuff you're okay so what we can talk about here is called internal and external critique joint internal critique is. He looks with in the Scriptures, and he looks at what it says with in it that's an internal critique and that's valid to do an external critique is he has his subjective preferences, he imposes it upon the Scriptures's natural critique is not valid because he's using the different criteria different set of examination then is revealed in Scripture and is like me saying you know I'm an American born in in 1956, which is where is born and have been living University five years. I'm now going to judge the Roman empire for its behavior. What you can't do that yes I can contact me is my opinion I can do it. That's what this guy is doing and he's imposing a value of his own subjective experience and desires and that's what he's doing with his external critique of this brings us to the issue of objective and subjective so an objective moral is a moral standard that is not based upon your preferences is not the place to based upon your opinions, but is a standard that is independent of you that you recognize that subjective subjective is I like it and that's the way it is. It's based on my opinion when someone tells me that they have a subjective opinion about something like the DS slaughter the end of the babies is a so you don't like it.

Click okay. Like I said come back and talk when you have something substantial to offer me other than I don't like it, whether you like it or not has no bearing on whether it's good or bad or true or false.

I need something more than I don't like it and if you combat it was that was my answer incorrectly, you will you critique my way. I was still write down the points because of his contact with one another, preferably response was okay, tell it to me again. Okay okay so I did what I will try to talk and it is wrong for man to do those things, not for God because he knows all things knew that these people would always be wicked kind counsel from God's perspective.

Not long to take them out of the child if he so chooses to, but you but it's wrong for us to. Yes, there's that. I would think that I would suggest you polish the response but you're in the right track seat is not necessarily an issue.

He knew they would always be.

It's the fact that in the and was called federal headship of the Adamic representation that when Adam sinned, is called original sin. We then inherited the sinful nature we are by nature children of wrath. Ephesians 23 and the effect effect is Romans 519 that Adam is the one who made us all sinners. That's what it says nearest active indicative or his passive indicative in a Romans 519 by the.

The offense of one the many were made sinners.

That's us so safe, so I state theologically from an internal critique you understand Mr. atheist, that all people are born and condemnation and of judgment.

You may not like it but that's the standard that the Scripture says of God has the right to execute anybody at any time. According to the law and you can't say is right or wrong because you don't have a universal moral standard to which you can then impose upon God in the Scriptures, if you want to say it's right or wrong on the nasty where you get your universal standard of morality from you can't use her subjective fate. He tried well, it got into a man can do it than that, God contradicting does not credit himself because all people are under judgment. We are by nature children of wrath, like bookbinding born she can take the life of anybody desires and not break the law is all are guilty in Adam. Right there is. That's it.

I don't get that answer. Who cares who cares series answers in the salon except that I've had many atheist given arguments a unaccepted that's fine. You have to accept it. I'm just telling you the biblical position and if you don't like the biblical position that your right to deny God deny Christ, deny the truth and and work yourself into a further level of damnation between you and God is telling you what it says and if you don't like it you need to provide a universal moral or logical standard by which you can then say this is right or wrong or true or false. I need to have it understand something here. Atheists often are arrogant twits, not all of them. I know some that hate. Here's the keys my house on the back and we just make yourself at home. I got atheist good connections like the discussion. Good guys okay for the most part but a lot of them who will just in their arrogance.

They will, God's rule really was not because he couldn't do it. It's what there's some ethereal moral essence floating around the universe that's independent of God, and that your take your finger with Nero there. It is up there where it is him informing you that they don't have a leg to stand. Don't let them even assume for a minute that they have a universal moral standard that they can then judge because the only thing they have is we get a break when the back of his a folksy right back after these messages, please state to more into this. This is is that I love doing this is not right that matters like why call 770727 cares immensely. Welcome back to the show through up in lines 877-2727 6 Rick Ave. still there. Alright, so there's a lot there that you written a lot on atheism. Believe it or not. So good luck there.

But go ahead before the breakout speaker. I have a YouTube channel not that big yet, but I do Bible discussion will talk about the gospel eternal security like that so I came into this discussion, I wasn't expecting this guy to get in lot, not to you a lot different terms is also, would you have a resource that you recommend for me to better understand philosophical terms of how to go about yes I want you to do is email me at info@com.org I'll email you my word document on philosophy that had been developing for a while. I just sent you an arm.org and it's not finished and it won't ever be finished and you'll find some gaps there and things like that casinos when working on and it II do the studying stuff like abstract objects and and I have spaces been filled in analytic constructivism, anti-realism, I have the Christian stuff, omnipotence, omnipresence, causation got into ultimate conceptualism consequentialism constructivism determinism const constructivist epistemology. These are things that I found basically from atheists in the grounding theory that the loud noise you see if you been discussing things with atheists.

You have to learn these things, so my document I guess 52 pages is 52 pages long, and I thought I could know because I don't know I'm pretty good with like New Testament stuff and getting Rick a little bit and discussed in the gospel to come to the load like I dare you will hear something when I would do is what I do. Let's say you're talking some atheists. They bring up some concept. I have my philosophy document open for monitors, so I have it on one of monitors I'm talking to the Musick excuse me, I don't understand what you mean by non-reductive synthetic realism, which is what one guy said and I don't get an answer that particular one, but I'll write it down.

Non-reductive synthetic realism or objectivism and I write notes so if you're talking to somebody you go in and you put it alphabetically and then you make an outline because it's in outline form with heading one heading two, so that it shows up on the left side. If you have your view open and it shows up and you can look in the left side and you can click is like a left-sided index and you can go in and echo propositions like Civics, for example, I was talking to some atheists. I had no idea what you're talking about feet years 234 ago a propositions propositions a statement single note, it's a shareable object of the attitudes and primary barriers of truth and falsity. What I no idea about the stuff right these views. I did research now.

Now when they come to mean the site got in my research I took a couple hours and I will say will look the propositions are blah blah the shareable object so we can have abstract objects that exist without being universals and requiring mind, and sweet. We believe in the propositional argument of the shareable object of attitudes of primary barriers of truth and falsity will all ask about your nature of the nature we justify them that way. It's very difficult. People like you talk like this, so went in a disk I discovered that there's got club free gay is a guy and Bertrand Russell and GE more. I found that they have different views on what the propositions are and so then when they talk about this with me. All I have my notes right from Elsik will which view a propositional theory do you hold to freaky a Russell or a GE more.

What is it welcome on youth would bring it up. So now tell me which one you hold to and why is that the right one.

All of a sudden now they're in trouble. This is what you gotta do.

If you do this kind of stuff with atheists okay okay I can do that within your personal opinion you been doing this longer than I am. I appreciate you and I would agree at all. Then when I talk that's it. It's over. I'm not looking to talk a little. So, from my experience, I don't know the Bible says that the gospel our God unto salvation to everyone that lead means note if I do one on the left be mumble jumble in all these words, elegant technicians at the end of the day. Is it really going to do any good because I mentioned we just focus on the gospel in his right for me to get pulled into philosophy where I just want to focus on the gospel with the skeptic does awareness really get into the gospel in one of our learning. The how can I tie that into the gospel reckoned movement from philosophy back to the gospel.

That's the question that you go, you are required first Peter 315 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you for the account of the hopeless and in also, don't forget second Thessalonians 10 5C we are as long as I sorry don't we hear listen to this in Corinthians 510 five we are destroying speculations and every lofty thing.

Now the word speculation's longest moves Logix dialogue, sluggish, destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God were taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.

So you do that right and you are to according to Jew what you contend for the faith. Jude 3. Alright, so what we do know that there also brother the no not get involved with pain, philosophy yes you closer to eight.

So what we do look at it this way, the field that you you're in the center of this big field is a garden sky wall around it and the only way to get in the garden is to the one door. This field is the world and this field has thorns and thickets and thistles and rocks and crevices and varying dangers in snakes and Vipers and poisons and stuff as an apologist. What we do as we navigate people through all of that and bring them to that door and see if you and God here that's what our job is okay with what I do so I get to the point and if you listen to me and varying views, varying apologetics or socialist. I'll say to people and what you do, the resurrection of Christ.

I'll talk to somebody about propositions for 1/2 hours on site now. I got a proposition for you and I'll say it like Beckham change the meaning of the word little bit Jesus Christ rose in the data core the eyewitnesses what he do with that.

Now I've headed this a serious discussion with them. They realize I'm not stupid I'm informed and not that I am super informed, but nice really make my mistakes. But the idea is now, let's talk about this and it come always comes down to one thing. They just don't want to believe that the present positional worldview doesn't allow it and I attacked the presupposition is now you can defend your prepositional to me and so I a little illness and do this and point them to the cross is sick and I actually say things like you are working hard at damning yourself the truth of the word of God is before you. You have spit upon the cross of Christ and you trample underfoot his blood by which we are justified.

You have done this, you continue to do this and the proof of the judgment upon you is that God has given you over to Morley's lies. That's Romans chapter 1 verses 18 to 32. You should read guys about you and I I'll do this is sick and you need Jesus and you need when you die, you can either be alive or not alive really got two options. If you're not alive you will continue this matter because it is the only one you that worry about is continuing then what well to put my trust and faith in Jesus Christ.net cross rose from the dead three days later and you should do the same thing. That's what I'll do with the doing entertaining little while then you got that thing I have the right weight for their answer and then I wish I'll show them that their assumptions are unfounded. Then you have something called grounding theory.

Yet a ground something is been justifiable. Some of them are more articulated and challenging and of Christians and others yet to be very astute to find out what presupposition that they have and I will undermine the presuppositions. This is why need to get into a little bit of transcendental's and you need to get in the history of the one in the many and universal. Okay, sorry, but it's in this document are right should help you fight 52 pages, but he is. Is it just an outline form, and it's not anything for narration.

It's it's just for my notes but transcendental's second in general ontology. We study general principles of being general features that are true of all things whatsoever I have the documentation in the footnote where it comes from universals. The principle of being true of all things applies to all being truth unity unity goodness have been said to be examples of transcendental's transit of identity got in there the nature of truth like what is truth.

The Christian three truth is that it truth is what conforms to the mind of God that the truth is they go to was called correspondence theory ordering that the court coherence theory, we are talking to them. This document very useful and I keep expanding and I will expand it when talking to them and is already 52 pages today Roberto. Email me okay that's okay. Call back Monday. Let's talk some more about this I would do this for years and years. Alright you two coming out blasts all right. Sorry for the late Chuck from Burlington North would work because you're on the air. Sorry. We got but yes sir I'm from Burlington not grown from North Carolina and what we ate, we don't.

I know we don't have much time, but 213, is that we should always give thanks to God for your brothers and your beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning or salvation through sanctification by the here and faith in the now.

I believe I'm non-Calvinist. I believe he chose not to because of our faith in the truth as long.

The reason is wrong is because that would mean God's choice depends on your choice and your action.

That's favoritism.

Favoritism is rejected by God in James chapter 2 verses two through four. A man comes in. He's got this quality disability was rich is this that you put with the head of the table you're judging, showing favoritism based on the quality that he possesses her house.

If God is gonna choose us for salvation based on whether not working.

I believe in God's choice depends on our goodness that's a problem right right talk to the Pharisees about not believing you know you hazard on because that's the penalty consequence of their gravity usually come to Christ is granted to father John 665 call back Monday we'll talk about okay okay thank you okay folks a great weekend everybody. Another program powered by the Truth Network