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August 5, 2022 5:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Can you explain John 1- Is Jesus by himself God or is he a part of God---2- What is the image of God- Did we lose that when Adam sinned---3- What will Christians be doing during the tribulation---4- Where did the Egyptians, mentioned in Genesis, come from---5- Did early Christians ever cast out demons individually or was it always in a group---6- Is a woman minister the same thing as a woman pastor-

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770-7276 Matt slick everybody. Welcome to the walkable show while busy day and if you want to be a call. All you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 and talk about all kind of stuff we talk about the book America's book about Mormonism, jewels, witnesses, Christian science unity behind Islam of politics you talk about abortion. We talk about the cold and we talk about government, though, trying to from a biblical perspective tonight by the way, I'll be on clubhouse.com or club deck.com app on your phone and on Wednesdays are going for a couple hours and I teach intro question people to say about this was that I do there. What I do here except I do live it differently and that we get into some pretty deep topics there and will have one in one dialog for 20 minutes straight back and forth to be an atheist might have something like many debates, sometimes a lot of times Roman Catholics come in the Eastern Orthodox Caesar thing but Eastern Orthodox. My impression of them just subjective and I admit it's a subjective. My impression of these Orthodox is that their arrogant that's what I've experienced with Don my singer all arrogant, but seriously, if anybody else has a Charlie is that your experience with them to that the doctor just arrogant about what they teach and everything I can hear you got another header or not. Yet he saw the same thing in the way is the big deal is. Just when I encounter them online. Man, you know, there's just not much humility it's it's they are the true church. They are have the way the life it's in their church there. The original one they haven't really just in the just talk like they were just a true church, you have our church for truth, but with Jesus know Jesus is in our church. It's all about the church and so I've debated several of them over the years and I unearthed some notes – about one of the guys getting Jake. I think it was or something else. I have never Ananias and think it was and I had discussions with this guy put my notes in my notes even during the debate, you know, and I think it would us an assessment right after one of method's guide Eric and that's what is so even that was two years ago that I had to so one initial discussion with this one guy I forget which one, but any rate, I just blabbed to see where nobody's arrogant with me just constructively so they look of five open lines going to give me a call 877-207-2276. So tonight will be on the clubhouse entry questions and you can download interphone sign-up is really easy you download it and you put in the phone number your number. This is your code and then you get in and I think you get a simple profile. Once I think that's it, and from then on he was going. There's hundreds and hundreds rooms. Do a search for the Christianity or my name Matt slick and you can listen and tonight it's enough to get real interesting, sometimes not.

And usually I do most of the of the talking Christian book to look some other times others. These other guys in there and they have some good things to say and so I just enjoyed listening to others as well with the most part and one doing the Q&A. No big deal if you want to know if Laura going to put that link up on the Newport on the site you already have your going to your he did tardy up there. So you go to where would you go you type in the private thing to go to Carn.org/calendar Carn calendar were doing mine here because she can't talk on the radio here sort of looking at her on video parts and if you want you can join us on the video watches we do with no celebrity of course but also recently. I feed it out through YouTube and Twitter and Facebook. You can go to work with website. See ARM.org the right hand side to see the my face beautiful oh yeah. Good things like two-dimensional of face on on harm and click a link and you watch me sitting here with a headset on talk to everybody's. That's what this nothing exciting is an exciting leave is not exciting for open lines going to give me a call 877-207-2276. Let's get to Willow from Charlotte North Carolina will welcome your on the air all right by God's grace and Internet. We got the guy in question. Try to get a little better on where God so and from reading that I and a part of God and not God might well and I was trying to get on the federal standard because that I hear people say that Jesus is God. No further explanation is. I know that the father the son and all the spirit make up God as one okay when they think that… Go back up a little bit and teach you theology right just teach you some more specifics more detail than most people don't do this and so is a clear up what I do right so we know that there's only one God. Okay God exists as three distinct simultaneous persons. The father the son and the Holy Spirit or the sun is the word now. John what I want you and was a joy when one is in the beginning was the word in verse 14 the Word became flesh, so this Jesus, who became flesh as the Word became flesh now so I have to say here for clarification, you'll see what I'm saying. This Jesus came into existence. 2000 years ago, by definition, Jesus is one person with two natures.

Jesus has a divine nature and human nature. This is called the hypostatic union. So Jesus came into existence. 2000 years ago and we say Jesus we mean the union of the divine nature and the human nature that union occurred 2000 years ago that union is called Jesus, but the divine nature is always has always existed, and so when people say Jesus is God they're saying is without think that right Technicolor sank. He has a dip divine nature within his personhood of that's what they're really saying that they really should also meaning that white flesh that day.

The word which is a second person of the Trinity became flesh, and the word like God's fault that they are being paid out. Jesus was the actual words that came out of his mouth yes and no.

Okay okay because the word is a person and we say person will be like you and me. It has a theological significance to me just sent being able to be to beware of yourself aware of other so you and yours and me and mine. And so Jesus as he came forth from the father. He existed in heaven with the father but wait a minute he could not existed as the God man before the foundation of the world because the union occurred on earth so that human nature did not preexists when he says father, glorify me with the glory I had with you the I is speaking of the one person at this point I have to introduce another doctrine is called the commuter cost to you and you will not or the communication of the properties what that big fancy term means is that in the one person of Jesus is a divine nature and human nature and the divine nature has certain attributes in certain qualities, the human nature has certain attributes in certain qualities. The one person said I am thirsty that human attributes one person said I will be with you always, even to the end of the earth as divine attributes. The same person I claimed the attributes of both natures, the divine and the human so with the hypostatic union in the one person or two natures in the communication of the properties that the properties of both natures are ascribed to the single person then we can understand how it all relates to each other.

So far, you with me so far somewhat somewhat okay we go again.

It's all right to write so Jesus has to natures got a minute right okay and each nature has certain characteristics right okay and Jesus the person's claim. The characteristics of both natures mentally cling about that. Wesley said I am thirsty that the characteristics of being human. I would with you always said character is a good thing God the same person I know I I will. I'll do this the first of Jesus claimed both the attributes of the characteristics okay I will don't want to be wrong what people think God is out he is he is the second person of the Trinity made flesh so you can say he's God. In fact, in Hebrews 16 it says he is speaking of the father but the son he says thy throne. Oh God is forever never.

The father calls Jesus, God, so he is called in the beginning was the word word was with God the Word was God's Word became flesh. We also have Thomas, a hungriest book I have. They smoke in the Greek and John 2028 when he said to Jesus the Lord of me in the God of me, so he was calling Jesus God is recognizing the divine quality in him what I did was just introduce a little more specificity the more specific so that we can then deal with other issues is a God absolutely is a man absolutely is both because he has both natures and the characteristics of both natures are claimed by him as one person so he could walk on water by belt part of the father is. He is a distinct person in the doctrine of the Trinity is one God in three simultaneous and distinct persons that we have is called the ontological Trinity on toss beams nature. In essence, the ontological Trinity means a father-son Holy Spirit all share the same divine essence, they are this one thing divinity there. God but we have another doctrine called the economic Trinity economic economic we could know me. In the Greek we get the word economy interrelation of things in the economic Trinity, the father sent the son but the son did not send the father only. The sun became incarnate, not the father and not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, but is not said that the father or the son does that in the father the son both send the Holy Spirit. So they have different functions. We recognize unending shame IN error, am I an error when I am praying and when I pray I say heavenly father, I live it out. I want to pray and that they name or should I say Jesus is this one so about Jesus and Jesus is pray. Nobody in heaven pray our father in heaven. Matthew 69. Jesus also said in John 1414 if you ask me anything in my name I will do it. And there's more to the judge is even more stuff where I can show you how they pray to Christ, and both are acceptable.

Okay hold on break hey folks right back after these messages for fear of the life you call 877207276 max Y call 770776 charismatic laws will all right so felt I was doing was trying to lay down a more detailed foundation of who Christ is, is natures and things like that. These are doctrines that you can learn and not anemic about this is what the theology of the old theologians of have said for years and centuries so is repeating it and my letter more specific. Hey if you want to be a fork in lines 877-207-2276 McCauley for the line recall more at the schedule birth from Georgia little welcome neuron here yet. Good evening my legs anymore? Janet got creative mail, email, image question is that they wanted and got mail.

It's the same things the same image. So in the theology God has certain qualities, attributes recalled in the communicable and the incommunicable attributes communicable means. These are attributes that can be communicated to us.

Incommunicable means attributes that cannot be communicated to us. So the ones that cannot be, for example, our God is everywhere. We are not God is all-powerful, we are not God knows all things. We do not so those are the attributes of God that we cannot participate in the communicable attributes are the ones we can participate in God loves. We love God hates we hate God thinks we think God recognizes others as do we see has a will. So do we. So these are the attributes that are communicated to us and part of these attributes are things like self-awareness or to some others. Rationality, reality, things like this. These are characteristics of God's essence is nature, and so they are communicated to us as how'd it means was as we are made in God's image, so my wife and either were different biological genders. We have the identical issues of which called the module day review my guyot day and that means the image of God and so we both possessed the same image of God but we have biological differences and so this is a very important concept because it means that people in prison and out of prison still have the image of God. It means those who are rich and poor still have the image of God. Those who are male and female or atheist or not still have the image of God and because they have the image of God.

We are to be respected just off the shelf right there just for you respect them and you treat them properly because they represent God, some more than others.

Some knowledgeably and some ignorantly and so this is why oh we are to to do that okay accent okay what her patient reports say that when Adam and that we lost that image and then went quite directly and quickly went back Christ the Savior every thought that while… Most natural subjects incorrect. We when we when Adam sinned, he still had image of God in him. He still was able to think and reason. Beware of others to be moral to express those attributes that that were from God. There just now stained.

There is the view just like you said is one preacher said works wherever that's out of the image of God is lost anesthetist punk.

Sargon is not just untrue, we still retain at a much we shall have the communicable attributes. Okay, not a quick question for you. You don't about faith that crap Christ came on the time the first right so limited time. I don't about what nobody knows our wanted a father. No mall again so you like. I think things way I can. I own with the time, I think, back body of Christ, you cannot come in the fullness of time. That's what got him again. My thin that I don't know when the fullness of time cannot happen, but my theology viewed by God again and she will pick up the church fullness of time that a correct in the fullness of time using the skin. The eschaton eschaton is to simply word for the return of Christ. The eschaton, so that phrase is not to remember that phrase is used of the of the eschaton, but doesn't mean the concept is there a course when things are right. According the prophecies according to what God has ordained crisis can come back absolutely the fullness of everything you know my love and no one may lead peak on the major signal when you see no one knows is not true God the father knows was for yet I don't identifiable.

I know that foggy anointing of the old peak of gaming know people here on earth. No, not yet yet no one here on earth knows the exact time, they may accidentally know what, there might be some people out there who have a date in her head no and they could be correct, but they could be correct because you know, even a broken clock is right twice a day as they just have to be running so I can was God's given it to them to the special knowledge of people, which I think is possible. I believe God can communicate such things to people, but he said no Mendoza dinner the ark of the father love that's an idiomatic expression of the wedding feast and so that's what that is in reference to okay model you all the wealth of knowledge. Well about that, but the you know just trying to help people. I want them to people to be grounded on the truth, meant normal.

You know, we have five open lines 877-207-2276 argument, five open lines. It is one of my passions were my burdens. I guess you could say is to teach teach Christians to inform Christians to instruct Christians on that Senate have all the answers. I certainly don't and I'm still learning new things you've never 42 years of ministry work so there are there just is a lot to learn but you don't a lot of people might my passion my my thing is only equipped Christians and reach the lost.

It's as simple as that.

When quick questions equip excuse me, Christians and so to do that we be doing different things.

Work is ready to have a seminar here pretty soon and portion of August and were in the process of arranging it. You have an online seminar and is going to be the present state of apologetics in the Christian churches can be generic. Kind of a topic and it's could be free people can can participate in their written work up with to get the bugs worked out how to do that we can actually set up a paid a conference were to be downloadable information tests. Let us try test but fill in the blanks go through and I have some really nicely done working on that, but I thought about doing things like like having a conference in person. Here, Boise Idaho local church registry all day. Guess what, there's a break five lines 877207 mass Y call 77077 charismatic slave writer, but welcome back to the show to open lines of going to be call 87722760 can I book in my handwriting. I got the mail today introducing Christianity to Mormons by Eric Johnson and Eric your list and waving at you and a characterless and waving at you know should be smiling on a minute get to Eric on the air here sometime.

I just texted him to break onto tape come on we went with commute for the income on your tongue watching a book so it's a book and introducing Christianity to Mormons of practical and comparative guide to what the Bible teaches. I guess you want to write something like this. He just beat me to it and is 200 over two and 50 pages 60 pages. Nice looks good nice book good cover letter that holing up on the camera and for good stuff Eric scraping all the stuff in it comes to the Mormonism angles Christianity really well to so to be a lot of fun. Get them on your let's get to Andrew from someplace Florida and welcome your married or in RI man and we got there two part question on the first wanted that the trip to Christians that are going through the tribulation like if I don't believe in the rapture. And remember, you teaching about you know were going to go through it. What are we gonna be doing during that time only going to church normal light. She reminded me of a comedian once said the was a guy's a guy.

What was he when he was a bad car accident or something like that ugly off a cliff or something.

He survived in the settlement. We what you think it will hurt you when you but aristocrat sheet you need to start yelling at the thought was so what we were doing the tribulation running this just the first half, the tribulation. He picked up a piece of the great tribulation is gonna be pretty bad as what they say and so is it that seems to be revealed believe the rapture well okay you don't whether or not you go up or not.

It is not based on view affirmative occurs or not so well you know so like David Jeremiah and about the rapture is not correct or not pretrip or post-trip or what Sato I think is pretrip okay well I hope he's right.

I don't think he is but don't do anything running. That means light running from the government is evil yeah yeah you know because assessors will be persecuted. It's it's good to get bad and feel people want to hear a guy to read you talk about this with you want to hear is you got your best life now it until you get better every day and during the tribulation on jubilation for you to be caught up was to be great to be wonderful to believe that that's not what I see in Scripture is not what I see in history so that I know I elected to start searching until people to want to hear are responsible to teach what I believe it is and I what I deftly believe is were going through. We are absolutely going to go through nothing.

The Scripture says we can escape the tribulation and he will people say were not appointed to wrath, but but to yeah that's right not to point to wrath, but salvation is damnation. Salvation juxtaposed.

They say the see word wrapping tribulation so he can go through it. They don't know how to execute Scripture and they say two men in the field was taken.

One is leftist director know it's not the wicked or taken to show people the stuff in one by one the pillars that supports frictionless rapture just crumble. So yeah yeah fortunately for the stars move around if were on the planet at that time. No little with the prophecy, but that in the literal sense is going to be the stars are functionally from her view immovable now quickly moving but are so far away.

They look immovable and so if anything like that stars are going to move that it would be comments of the meteors and things like so laughing, difficulty learning, and life on how to get through it and will the state of prayer. Prayer suffering, whining, complaining, being this patient is a can is slowly learning as I go. That's how it will tell you I certainly made a lot of mistakes and stuff during trials and tribulations, but sometimes you know sometime like when we lost our son. My wife and I we just bore through it together with her eyes on the Lord. We got through this other times when he just is the same as near and so from the those extremes you do it you can keep your eyes on him and don't look your experience and don't look to your feelings. Don't trust your feelings, so I don't feel God so as I got to do with his reality or your commitment to him.

It's like marriage I compare this to marriage. Sometimes is that hopefully the Internet to go down to summits of the audio is messing up so hopefully it won't happen there with marriage you know when you're in love, get married, and after decades of marriage. You see this person next to you and it's like yeah and so then you you aren't relying on your feelings anymore you relying on the commitment the truth of your marriage status and the second of the thing so you move forward and Truscott okay thank you Marilyn RMF goblet ever going all right. Let's go to Juan from North Carolina one welcome your near yeah you know I have a question from from the book of Genesis where you know God create the world that goes on to talk about how many than it goes on the dog about love. Yes, you got it goes on to talk about Jake and how God tells Jacob.

You know you got to be the father of nations, you know, the nation of Israel in the house of Israel and then all of a sudden you know more focused on that fact. No, the Hebrews to be the, the father of the nation. You know the drill, and you will you will have as a result of many nations will come from you right and then all the tribes you know, as a consequence of the all the children that that Jacob had. But then all of a sudden we have that the Egyptian show what in the book of Genesis.

So I mean where word of the Egyptians come from start there. Like Beth the first, eighth and fifth efficiently in my mind it's not is not that I doubt it but us mixed okay so it says, for example, Genesis 54 right legal than the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were 800 years and had other sons and daughters that he lived a long time.

The kids and these kids will not have direct outs. Now, after Noah's time we had to the eight people survived the ark and they went and they had children. In fact of mathematics shows that if you have I think was two or three children every generation, which is like 25 years of you do that you can populate large areas with thousands upon thousands thousand thousands of people within just a few centuries mean a great amount of population and so all that's happening here in Genesis is the account is simply talking about the nation of Israel that are lots of other people. Adam and Eve. No one they had all kinds of children with different directions and then multiplied in the story just about Israel pretzel souls going okay so you knowing it could have been age of the credit live.

He could have been any other nation that we we know in modern day but so that when they come from the key from this dishonest agenda doubt the kings of the descendents of Noah because they propagated and as people groups without the different areas because you could all be in one area get to move out with the land would support him agriculturally to animals by eating and they just moved to different lands, and so then for thousand years a lot of people everywhere.

Not a problem right but but but then government the message of that book is really about Jacob and and and you know and and the children of God in the form of Israel and snorted they don't like that they don't want to just about Jacob but it's it's just given the accounts of the beginning and the content first three chapters of Genesis are extremely important and it gets in the some history in the movement into the nation of Israel quickly and Genesis 5217 a stuff like that. Actually, just as early as Genesis 12 we have for Abraham being called out.

The early Chaldees and claim by God to be the father nations the Jewish national RNA borrowed out of the question.

You answered it all right thank you very much you welcome brother.

All right God bless this break hey look at one of the likely radiates 877-2077 right back after the mass Y call 77077 charismatic back all right. It's good to Alex from Florida. Alex welcome your near road environment I back down.

Good you did for real now you I don't it works minutes where it was great you desiderata highly and you just got that's all that's all it is run this Salida so I write and write lately. 130 in the morning when the ladies walked this lady walking across the parking and yes the lady walking across the parking lot and screaming and I'm pretty sure to get started being a manner that is the way that and I drove by her and I just that you know ma'am you need deliverance you need to repent and give the correct name and she stopped talking coal and then I just Drive so that the prophet my question is, and I would think out of the loan you. How would you want to go higher with clear over to her by myself. I thought it might be better with other people to talk with their anger is she believes him talking she saw you driving out of the parking lot and I fear I know from the window and she saw you immediately… Yet when I write and you need or you would stop cold. Okay so you think what I was thinking no part of me wanted to just go get Bronner. But late at night.

I don't (or something on her idle thoughts. You can do anything and so I kinda held back because, well, maybe I should be with other people, but it is not kinda have to go. I was wondering, I am. I would be wary. Also, if you think this might be an issue and whatever it might be as bad as you think you really do want to get a one-on-one because you just a list I have and it would be better if others were there just like you said so that witnesses, because what if you go to confront her and say you need this and she starts saying accusing screaming things about you that you're doing things to her doing anything.

Next thing you know the police are involved and you get a lot of explaining.

So, without witnesses, it can be difficult to know and the like.

And be careful, particularly when it comes to women. Okay yeah yeah yeah credit that man or woman or you know someone else it were the examples in the New Testament where a Christian and a disciple or collar use went up to someone a one-on-one and cast out of her was always in a group. Since Cuba happens remember seeing Jesus name cast out which Polly recognized. We know Paul Pino that is maybe a trending upward as you can type it in thinking 07 and so anyway I don't spiff its use with somebody or did by himself XOXO can you find it, the seat that's it okay and thickness Kiva census Cuba and when they jumped on and on this going to be a month and he was using in the crisis Paul we know Jesus. We know we don't know you and he got accosted's abilities alone. In that sense and didn't go well with because he was the Christian so other than that, I just hope my hand on okay yeah okay yeah but I would think I'm in I don't I regulated politic Bible group think, the event that you think about this concerning absolutely you yeah you had an account and a letter that Oliver liquid you had an account with someone that was that alone I believe so. And how did that happen. I was so I was outside my wife forgot married to my girlfriend her place in her other ladies in the house in which a Christian woman living together and went outside for something is at night.

New Bush people to house you know so was anything untoward and so I went outside and they were telling with this girl next door, and lo and behold she shows up and she walks over to my wife's car had a license plate he's risen and she sprayed chemical.

What the heck I associate all the memory and definitely it was 409 I smelled, but that which is walking back to her house and I said to Mike what are you doing and she looked at me and when she looked at me.

I got the weirdest feeling. It was as though there was a demonic force and it was so loud and so profound that it actually caught me way off guard and I'm looking at and rethinking. She can't hurt me I mean I do martial arts and she immediately said you can't hurt me what the and so yeah so this you just ran into her into the house and my wife and and her roommate were sitting under something wrong with that girl so I don't know. I don't know, and it was another girl like I've encountered where she kept wiping things off her arms. She said she could see these things so you know you just don't know. It's a mental illness or is it actual possession. I don't know yet yet have not always been Good to lay and cast out but I haven't actually done everything that I can't do that in Matthew seven 4300 go in and read because if you cast out demons out of someone in the name of Christ.

The demons go out to the dry places looking for an house to inhabit. If they can finally come back to the first house and if they find it swept clean and empty. They enter in and the second state of that person is worse in the first so the idea is that if unicast on demonic forces the person has to want to be a Christian, so that the Holy Spirit dwelling.

There, that's what I understand the text to me. 12 okay, I never thought about it like that accursed rebel and I about broke next time I do that drink some good vitamin C with baking soda you be fine okay cookie the ring away. I meant Dr. like okay see Alex okay but all right, let's get to Francis from Charlotte hi Francis welcoming her. I calling and no that I know you will you will women follow after, but I wanted to know you. You don't when administered. The same thing not to be that a minister and get you a woman is not to be the place of spiritual authority over men in the church is not to be a pastor. She's not to be an elder care with anybody says who's listen to me. I'll debate you on it.

I will debate you have a formal debate we can film it and release it and what does the Bible say about women pastors and elders is limited to Bible support so I'm very adamant about this and is not a good ally women, but because the many to stand up they did do they gotta do and when they don't women get in the position than men start failing to do what God called him to do. And now it's very serious issue for me. So for the signs' the Christian church with her not be pastors and elders, and if I say to people if you're going to a church with one pattern over you leave you leave if you don't think I'm right. Go to Carmen look up women pastors and read the numerous articles I got there numerous articles going to very quickly, very succinctly, very quickly but very cyclically and in-depth the articles going through the arguments going through the stuff and where it leads to what goes on okay okay okay you think that I mean you know that they are dying. Minister walked past a minister is a pastor, pastors, minister know what but you know yes or no is like an application for something people will know what what your job back occupation, I just administer because it's generic. I'm not a pastor.

When the minister so all pastors are ministered in a sense, not all ministry pastor, so there's a lot of similarity but you can be a minister of music and I pastor at that point. Please see but you can't have. You can't have women be ill pastors and elders and that's it. And if they're called ministers, but they're not pastors and elders in a church that's going to cause confusion because then all his minister and the words are used interchangeably. We were just not to be in a position it shouldn't be and if you are a woman listening in your deposition need to step down, and if the men don't step up and do their job. You say to the man that my problem get up there and do what you gotta do men that's out needs to be and if you men need help in stepping up give me a call to some lessons so I am serious. I I am 80% of the of the churches and denominations of the dock women pastors and elders within two generations are promoting homosexuality when they start approving of women pastors and elders, usually the political women pastors and elders means that they are taking the position of the lungs of the male because Paul said he does not allow a woman to teach, Rex has authority over men but remain silent for Adam was first created for Sprint Timothy 212 13. In the very next chapter he says he's giving instruction to the household of God we talk about elders, elders, a pastor, you wouldn't go quickly because Rosetta time it's of first Timothy 517 and then in Titus one. In first Timothy three, he gives the qualifications being an elder SB yes good night costs on their amount of one woman on her music and eye contact with a man of one woman. That's what the elders to be that that's what the instruction is in the church to hold that and so would women get in the do that job.

They are taking from the man the job that belongs to the man and when the man let that happen. They are in sin and rebellion against God just as much as a woman is the woman needs this to not do that position and if they say will know no significant preach and teach will do it that the men get up and stand start begin with the gotta be and I mentioned given they should not be given diapers and I'll be treated like children to be treated like men and expectations of manhood need to be placed upon them, and so I call meant to be men step into the church step in and you leave as a mere perfect you lead and women are not to be pastors and elders enters a theologically significant reason to do this I can go into a lot more but I have much time at the federal headship and representation which is taught in the Scriptures and the proclamation of Paul the apostle who very clearly says it's not the place for women if you like it out there folks, I don't care I don't care I can with what God says if you like it too bad. I can tell you what verses to take your Bible you don't like with the word God says, but men need to get off your lazy rears as are being managed churches or see the women you can't be a pattern elder women need to step down menus or act like men ought to be think for me the big thing for me. I it will bear you got here. Go for things we call for you.

Welcome have a good day you two all right you know we don't have enough time to get to the next call. You have one minute we have three callers waiting.

I apologize Glenn from North Carolina and see Carlos from North Carolina.

I apologize by the long time. Please call back tomorrow, but to let me just lately the gentleman maybe I need to do a seminar unwanted teach on this topic and lay it out quite so critically important and with a response to those of men are.

I'm just so sick and tired of the men's Lane done nothing to not be a man is trying to act like a godly Christ following way lead.

We godly Christ the Lord bless you by his grace back on there tomorrow and talk you powered by the Truth Network