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July 22, 2022 5:00 pm

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July 22, 2022 5:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Matt discusses the complicated structure of salvation proposed by the Eastern Orthodox Church as opposed to the true gospel.--2- If limited atonement is true, what about Revelation 14-6-11---3- Can you explain Matthew 7-22-23---4- How did Adam take care of the garden in Eden- As in, what tools did he use---5- When Ezekiel discusses the temple, is that a literal or figurative temple- Is it post-crucifixion- And if so, why are altars-sacrifices described---6- What do you think about the idea that we are in Revelation 6 and the third seal---7- What does it mean that Christ preached to the spirits in prison- Does that mean there is a second chance-

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So I've been doing a lot of research lately on Eastern Orthodox stuff and I've been working my outline and the outline with index table contents is 90 pages 90 pages going through and don't read with a single Eucharist and on to salvation and all kind of stuff, just tell you the more I read that stuff more read them more unconvinced. It's not a Christian church. It's really sad. They work so hard to self-deception. It's amazing to me.

So unfortunately that's what it is. If you are Eastern Orthodox want talk about stuff. Can I need to do.

Talk to some priests I've got some official documentation of learning more. Getting some work stuff I the Orthodox study Bible: I have sources from official stuff. I'll tell you how come people just make me think so difficult. The simplicity of the gospel. It is so simple just to believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and you know the make it difficult because to them.

Salvation is a process. It's a time-consuming event or series of events over the course of your whole life where you have salvation through membership and participation of the sacraments and energies and mysteries of that church is never that salvation is something you gain instantly by your faith and trust in Christ, not just on hunting if it's not instantaneous salvation, because if it's faith in Christ.

It would be instantaneous, but if it's not faith in Christ.

It won't be instantaneous. If you have something added to Christ's work, it could never be instantaneous salvation, and that your you could never be justified by faith. You can never be justified by the work of God in faith would not happen.

I find it interesting that the simplicity of the gospel is buried, confused and convoluted so much by by false groups so someone told me that there's a book.

The basic guide to Eastern Orthodox theology, and it has approval in it from some official people and from a patriarch so this is that this is this is good stuff as far as a safe and and so you have the book on on the my Kindle and my computer and I can search words and you would think you would think that justification would be an important topic in the book, and when I type in the word justify justified the in the entire book. It only occurs 200 pages. It only occurs twice, once Orthodox tradition could not, therefore, ever be used to justify the teaching. According to Scripture and the other thing is Anselm surmises that God is due much more than the earthly Lord God was rightly offended by the insult of Adam and Eve sin and is justified in demanding satisfaction that set now, that's it. You want on the June experiment here at home to go to the book of Matthew computer anima type in Lexi went to the club because I think do it this way. Just if and it'll yesterday if I type in GUS TIF will give justification and we know, for example, Romans 425 was raised because our justification transgresses resulting in justification. So just to be just a certification and to justify justified lease for about 45 times are just looking at and you'll be justified as a gift by his grace the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, because by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified as he is the just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. We maintain the minute justified by faith apart from the works of the law of since indeed God which will justify the circumcision by faith and on circumcision to faith is one of our about this verse.

Therefore, having been justified by faith, and so there's many more verses.

I am just talking out loud because when I study occult groups or religious group. I enjoyed that part of the study were I gets understanding where start seeing things that we take our conduct resort seeing the patterns and the theological perspective that governs the interpretation of Scripture and so this is one of them where justification well salvation is a process in justification which reduced she would justification you think this church would get this right. Check this out I'm gonna read from of Romans 41 through five. Now this is one of the essentials of the Christian faith. This issue justification by faith to the slowly this is obviously critical and yet in this book. Nothing is said about effect on up on an official website of Eastern Orthodox, I found a few articles try to find some fun salvation with intact and just like wasn't there either to me is just mind blowing.

What is justification mean in my off is justification, not the big deal in the Bible. Let's find out.

I'm a good Romans for one to start reading what then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh is found for Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God for what the Scriptures say Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness and notice what it says here a witnesses Romans 43 Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness stuff false religions all teach that you have to do works and faith to be save your works have to be there in order to be saved. 26. The catechism of the Catholic Church says that you are, you obtain salvation through faith, baptism, and the observers of the commandments and the lessee, 1983 washer Matthew three, page 15. I think it is 500 number April 1. The second commandment is a requirement for salvation is more difficult it is to obey God's laws and to base commandment so you believe and obey commandments and Catholicism at obey and bake believe commandments you know in Mormonism 75 2523 we are saved by grace of faith. After all you can do the case of choice of faith and works okay but notice what Paul saying here for what is a Scripture say Abraham believed God, and it was credited as righteousness. The belief is what was credited as righteousness, not his works, but his belief that he was on now to the one who works, his wages, not credit as a favor.

But what is due and here's a critical verse, verse five but the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly's faith is credited as righteousness that you think that would be significant in a book that claims to be the one true church like the Eastern Orthodox or even the Roman Catholics or the Mormons, the Jehovah's Witnesses, or whatever else group is really true church in the Scriptures are teach to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness does not work. No works, no works, but believes in him who justifies the ungodly's faith is credited as righteousness, faith is credited right is just as in verse three it says Abram believed God, and it was credited to him right as righteousness which interesting here is that Abraham was before the law and his belief was credited as righteousness. And after the law was given. Faith is credited as righteousness. Just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works. That's verse six of Romans for okay so undoubtedly this is a critical doctrine, the crediting of righteousness before God.

That is, I would say what you with the crucifixion with the resurrection. And yet I find it interesting that the Eastern Orthodox church avoids it like the plague. I've actually talked to some Eastern Orthodox people and asked him how you are you justified in the authentic which which justification what was it because I was a main, they don't even know that I've ever been surprised the first time I encountered that grotesque ignorance.

This is faulty.

People who knew what's going on now I've talked to others who are far more knowledgeable and do debate with Protestants and because of that they required to know this particular aspect of Christian theology and biblical theology. And so some of them not refute. Many of them are able to answer questions and then even they can't answer very well when I was talking a few days ago with some Eastern Orthodox people about this verse imitate what they did this one guide for jumping in say the same thing I think about this. Are you in a church that does this kind of thing.

So what they were doing and I said and what is a Scripture say Abraham believed God, it was credited to him as righteousness, and they would jump in and say looking understand something. Abraham believed, but he also did things so his faith would not allow headworks you see Matt. He had works and I said, but the text says Abram believed God, and it was credited as righteousness, not the works not to faith and works, but is faith you agree with that, Matt.

You understand that if he hadn't done stuff. He would've been justified also justified by works.

I didn't say that they go on and they could talk like this and was talking to some of these orthodoxy for their time just about to get baptized what they're doing. Which is sad with her doing is they are submitting the holy word of God to the church tradition with their church tells them that the Bible must meet. So if baptism is necessary for salvation or part of salvation part of how your sins forgiven love, then it cannot be that you are justified by faith's of the camping so when they come to a text like this.

They will reach into the dark crevices and corners of exegetical error and bring to light some fallacy and methodology then claimed that they have the right way of fun in the Scripture I've asked them before I said Abraham believed God was credited to him as righteousness to what was credited as righteousness. And they don't answer. So what does the Bible say was credited righteousness. They don't want answer was baptism. It was his works. What is the Bible say uncle over and over and finally with the text do this I'll do this. It was Romans 43 say about Abraham believed God's credited righteousness is saying that first virtual text, 10, 15 minutes before the Bible says church like that submit the Bible to them so they for the lines which you may call 877-207-2276 max Y77077 back to the show for open line 772072276 with fertilizer from Pennsylvania. Welcome.net they did okay okay we got a want to let you know that your first 30 listening.… You know you are all you are everything but like like it.

What he or on Calvinism limited: I started being day you make a really good argument and you know biking think you and the light, like now, you know 90% on a lean toward the Fido limited by now is just just so you know is not my goal to make someone believe that I defended when people attack it wrongly so you know if you done for me that's okay as long as you love the Lord Jesus Christ produced often that I get a kick out of it when you I've had a lot of Lotta people are sick when I first listen to you. I thought that the very sense of your heretic I thought you were stupid at Dr. Moore that you're arrogant that I would smile and so is white smile appreciated but okay so we gonna okay all my question is if a limited through the end of Holcombe in reveille in 14 through 11 where we the three angels and all multiple preaches the everlasting gospel and the third angel warns the entire world, not marketed be that they do gonna be damned to hell fire. Parity will be if Leonard held his true a lot of the thing that God cares about the salvation of every single person on the planet living during the time of antichrist. Just a really good question.

Very good question and it brings to memory all kinds of things to talk about relationships. What is your you're asking because we are asking is really good stuff.

Not sure where to go and how far to get into it but God commands everyone everywhere to repent.

X 1730. Yet at the same time he grants people repentance second tube to 224 he commands people to believe in him and Exodus 20 the 10 Commandments you shall have no other God, your you're obligated to believe the true living God.

And yet he Jesus in Mark Marco for 10 to 12 he will. He speaks in parables, so that people will not be saved. We know from seven Peter 39 that God wants all to be saved. And yet, I guess that he speaks in parables you and if you want all to be saved and why does Nick grant them all repentance or grant that they all have faith.

The principal bleat flick is 129. So what we see in Scripture is a oneness out once a problem but is not a problem is a problem for us because typically wait a minute, why would God do that and so the that what I would say is the solution I I've thought through over the years and come to if a solution I should say is that God can desire one thing and arrange another he desires all to be saved or could repentance second Timothy 339 but he doesn't give that that ability.

Everybody is a grant that everyone believes he grants people believe that is 129 and Jesus become parables of the lobby sites. We see this we see this this disparity so it must be that God can desire something and yet for a reason he's not telling us he doesn't arrange what he sometimes says is a is a certain desire because other desires. God has Romans nine and you could read in Romans nine, for example, a Romans by nine talks about and through 23 we go there.you know it says with God all the willing to demonstrate his wrath to make his power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction and he did so to make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he prepared beforehand for glory will wait a minute, so there vessels prepared for destruction under special prepared for delivery and then you go to Ephesians 14 and it says that he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we would be holy and blameless that he predestined us.

Ephesians 15 what were saying here is a balancing act when we go back and forth and we see God's.

In one sense desire something another sense arrange something else that's in Scripture. I want to go to those to show you so why would you be concerned about the damnation of people that he doesn't grant repentance to well we know in one sense that God is love for John, four, eight, but is also another sense justice was just and holy, and so he can love and she couldn't execute judgment. He does these things perfectly and we don't if Jesus is the one who came to us and only bore the sins of the elect does not Nick date. The concern that God would have four people in it would not negate the responsibility of those people to come to faith in him will then we get to an issue will attach the case because all people are responsible for their own actions, and yet at the same time God grants that people believe liquids 129.

Why does he do it everybody.

The only answer come up with is because there vessels of wrath is been prepared for destruction and slip people like that.

Well, I'm try to work through would solve the problem or sue the Scripture says it should more light on it. So now back to your question, having given you a lot more information. There that they believe in this if you would be doing on a human level. He's a Sibley site. If you believe in the market. The beast and you do this you take this your damped is true, but it does not negate in this context logically does not negate the possible truth of limited atonement were Jesus only bore the sins of the elect, because it would still be the case that those who believe in or deny the true Christ and receive the mark of the beast does mean that there not responsible or the God of the concern for the but just at the concern that he has is not unto salvation that make sense. Follow Leah currently not unto you of how hard to wrap my head around that I submit with this over the years and I believe I said this before, no theological perspective has all the answers and what I say is it safe to two people are in your meaning. Enter enter Calvinist flappers walking along the road which want to go further theologically Calvinist, but the road is still in and we can't get all the answers get more a hold on me right back up directly, but folks the right back at his messages we have to open logical call 87720776 the right back that I call 77077 back to the show. The Scripture larger again. He still her body. There are your questions a good question is a lot to it, involved in a potential answer, but you go ahead work when I ask her talk about. I got some more Scripture sexually. Are you all of our question of what you're ready and I remember you know what it's people like to bring out that you have to be baptized in order to be a and I remember you had a what do I believe it was handed around there where the spirit which must begin in Concord before they got baptized and and thousand are your things and that they have been gift of the tongue on them either. The soul so my question is this all spiritual gift and it also evident that they know that there the Holcomb in can't remember were quite accurate that but the Scripture where Jesus stated, many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, I do not profit by and and and a cathode beam and held it out but they had the idea ability the duty of spiritual gifts to my question is if you have the ability to do spiritual gift and it is evident that your faith alcohol with the local spiritual gift on the day of judgment. Who will go to hell, says, and asked in the Jesus says in Matthew seven 2223. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, do not do this this and this, so they're saying they did doesn't mean that they were of God because he said I never knew you saying you are never safe to begin with. That's what he saying get away from you work iniquity. I never knew you so but he says that they were never say that means they were never doing their works, by the power of the indwelt Holy Spirit by being saved with me birthday correct. Now in X 1044 following Peter was speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those were listening to the message and all the circumcised believers who came with Peter were made because the gift of the Holy Spirit of import of the Gentiles also, the gift of the Holy Spirit talked about an act 238 and it's that the charismatic movement.

They were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. Then Peter answered.

Surely no one can refuse water for these to be baptized to ever see the Holy Spirit just as we did County so Paul I mean Peter is saying hey they've already got the Holy Spirit they perceive just as we have so that means are saved, but in Matthew seven 2223 they never were saved because Jesus says I never know you okay are all little so on it.

Whenever the all the mandate of God, spiritual gift, to the unfeigned okay so let's look at what the text says August Lennox think a little more critically okay so Matthew 722 many will say to me on that day okay will say it. We prophesied in your name we cast out demons in your name perform many miracles.

So you say this, though the implication is yet they were able to unbelievers can make prophecies to they can do it. It is muted by the power of God because you could have demonic forces working that have information that somebody doesn't have about what could happen tomorrow get them to say something you prophesied and cast out demons. In fact, in the name of Jesus on Skiba and actually the lady cast out demons, but they said following objects. We don't know who you are. Demons attacked him with this power.

The name of Christ.

For many miracles, even the federal court the pagan people were able do miraculous things just because they said, Lord, Lord, doesn't mean they were believers that were true believers and regenerate because Jesus is. I never knew you depart from me, you who practice lawlessness.

So what he saying is those things that they were doing was lawlessness with sin Log yeah I got a got in and out, though people are date a most likely got there. Get from from the devil in the devil can imitates to note here are a few easy and not allowed both of you for the Coke and conch the home signal Mormonism for example they teach a God keep their planet is a goddess wife and that did become a God and all kind of stuff. This is again Scripture so there are reports of healings and Mormonism will that proves Mormonism's true right doesn't. What if there was a demonic force at work. As we know that this could be the case of the Gospels, a guy who's nuked, couldn't speak.

The devil demonic forces cast out.

He can speak so let's just say that these forces want to deceive people and so what they do was imitate certain problems or actually cause certain problems and in this false group goes in this essay will parade or false God and all the demons got to do is just lay low sees been healed.

That's for a greater deception is because they don't believe the word of God with the truth literal for the deception so you could have cast out demons while they said they cast out demons. Did they. Well, we know that the power of Christ name has certain effect on demonic forces an unbeliever could do that but it could also be the case of demonic forces could imitate being cast out disrupted to deceive people. So that's what the dose is part of the stuff. The information as possible. You, remind me of about you know how Eclectic they thought, the league a Marian apparition healed.

The are like that. And as apparitions which I can read people call if you want your children cannot go through never known that the apparitions are clearly demonic in the law all looked upon me and I'll heal them and I will promise I promise elevation of one who lifts up the Sacred Heart of Marriott in all the stuff the state site and the teaching works righteousness. And it's as false doctrine, so that believe people will believe the miraculous, because it meant miracles to have. In fact, in Fatima 1917 when these three children were claiming to see something in the air.

A lot of people gathered and a lot of people were seeing something in the air. There were witnesses who could not see stuff. Witnesses said they could see stuff with the a lot of people noticed is this.

It was really freaky is that the people could not see would watch the eyes of people and they would all track simultaneously something up in the sky moving and have a crowd of people throw looking in there watching something move and they could watch these people different eyes moving. They were seeing some miraculous things happen when I was involved in the cult. I saw things for real.

The demonic forces are powerful and a lot of unfortunately the church is not meant to be to focus on demonic but not educated the Christians not to know the great deception that is there that my second novel, and I have one called influence the second one of that series is called the deception and expect demonic deception and forces working in the Christian church so you know any rate that's with one possibility there was trying to get think critically.

They said it doesn't mean it's true.

They said they did this well doesn't mean it's true.

They could've lied but let's assume that they were telling truth that these things happened. This is still minutes from God, not necessarily there's different reasons why because Jesus is a never to you euro doing evil will wait a minute. It was doing evil. It was from God couldn't be evil so something else is the source of all the mom who were expelled like Ellen on the wiki fit about it apparition at that law.

I remembered our research on that thing about a year ago and got in the video they had, they good good good you know how and I were not an old covenant law tomorrow and anything alright so that the applicant be Mary apparition old little kid who are the work brought the Roman Catholic Church art that the documentation for that.

I was one documentation but you never know. I have successfully documented and to demonstrate the false teachings of the Catholic Church so you know Jesus does say in the last days there be many false teachers and false prophets will deceive many.

That's what he prophesies and only way to not be deceived is to study the word of God and believe it believe it will be someone else comes along and says God appeared to him in a forest or pot got appeared, or an angel came to my cave or was a bright lights received revelation or their profits as was visited by God etc. Scripture, Scripture, Scripture, red letter that ago but okay the blessed man I arrived.

Alright hey folks, roof lines last segment of the overcoming of 87720 max Y call 77077 Attleboro welcome and you're on your one total income right.take care the garden… And what Adam had cared about and what can I get the at secret created modern technology back then right back down at him.

He wanted you think I got a garden while so well. He was told to tend the garden so I would just say that I would just leave it at 10 of the guard. I don't know about creating no induction motors and zone and atomic bombs. So I know this case that I got and I got it wet and late.

Well that's that's a good question. So what to tend the garden is take care of it. It is representative of God's created order is to govern it is to tend what it is and to let let the husbandry that he has husbandry is agricultural term became used in marriage husband-and-wife, but it is to govern to take care of two like a `like a garden okay to kill it to work it so that it produces and takes skill. It takes time. It takes patience and this is what God commanded Adam to do and that garden okay so so mad I had been 88.you know since Col. we don't know the alright okay all right okay thank we'll see you all right, it's good to Adam from North Carolina and welcome your near and good afternoon, so I've been doing a twofold question. It is going to be a little more future is called though why the need all their it is going to be the reason is because some ecological theologians. I think in that context, what is talking about is the rebuilt Temple that will occur in Jerusalem with the Jews, who will then reinstitute the sacrificial system and it will be rebuilt and will be next to the mosque and leave it at that. Okay, there's a lot of stuff we talked about there but okay cool knee for the future us that the Jews Jews who cannot recognize the Messiah.

They are the ones and the ones who will probably has the theory goes, go back into a sacrificial system, and the antichrist will come in this morning. Theories about how it works.

So there's a risk that there is no that's not exactly the easiest thing to figure out their different views on it, but that's the mark. Most common one I've seen okay. It was again a better answer. But that's the one I know right now, and only studied okay.

Thank you. You welcome and God bless. All right… Jump over to next longest wing person is Paul from Virginia napalm welcome drawn here hello there hello, my question or not this way around Catholic Church activity with Kurt but now I ran across old order today about that. It which I see where the people are saying that we are Dale revelation Three. Some say that you place it. The that the digital ID, including the electronic pet which I want them done to Microsoft founder Bill Gates involved. The house was your question so do you believe were in Revelation 6. Right now I know people have different interpretations on the same revolution in depth because it's it's more eschatological. It takes a great deal of study in time took to get through it is to really understand it well and I'm so busy running other stuff that is necessary.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease so that seven working on more of his other things of this is coming up more not going to do a study on it, but I could see what people would say well you know this. Time is this seal and it might be.

It might not be the second seal of war. There's famine and death and martyrs so I would seal you think we are wherein I am not sure because I was erroneously thought the child that we would be wrapped a lot more people you greatly believe we will be enraptured just after the tribulation.

That's all you not pretrip know. I believe in the rapture that will occur after the tribulation. I just taught on it. Last night I was in a venue, one in the middle first teaching and showing people from Scripture there like that never seen the stuff for the standard arguments quite okay and it finally that I information that I read about Revelation Was in reference to article about the national railway right what you really coming up but for right I haven't been able to verify whether that's true or not, because I think that's unfortunate that we have so much information that they thought we could never really verify yet there's a lot of rumors and I was just talking to a friend of mine recently said that he said that where he lives with a lot of farmers and farmers of told get ready, there's gonna be major food shortages, and the reason is because they don't have nitrogen and it's because of what's happening in Ukraine with Russia and so the nitrogen produces or helps us produce the crops are huge so the that's already falter.

And so it's coming so I use it believe it will be food shortages idols going out with. I was going to happen, but I just know that you know.

People tell me different things.

I hear different things which Tru was not true so you don't win as you've heard the difference food processing plants have mysteriously burned out and there's reports of diesel shortages coming and that combination of stuff with nitrogen problem with fertilizer and food. It's going to be a major problem and one of the things I'm concerned about is the left trying to use a major crisis in order to suspend the Constitution to clear met martial law.

Whatever does and evoke themselves in permanent power and it may sound highly conspiratorial, but as you look at history and how nations fall often there taken over from within by a group that is planned and worked and some evidence by violence but not here so the planning and working and were seeing that kind of thing. So is it true I don't know with these the things that I've heard more than once and for more than one source so I can put much credence in a whole lot of it because I want to make sure that what I'm doing is correct in the eyes of God. And so I preparing a little bit and trusting God a lot more thank you Matt for some good regular goblins. All right, let's see that a few minutes let's get to next longest weight is Dan from Washington to and welcome your near that. Yeah I one theater like God but that he went and preached. Formerly continues on from their landline by long-suffering waited in the day and both the first open like people know or the second Chelsea know which happening with their explain what it looks like is going on here says for Christ also died once for all, the just for the unjust, so that he might bring us to God had put to death in the flesh made alive the spirit in which he would make proclamation to the spirits now in prison, that one of those would be Christians of the Elizabethan unbelievers at the very least, who were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, so it's a reference to those spirits in prison at the time of Noah was, that's what it's talking about. He would make the two that were left with access to the spirits now in prison who these protected who were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting the days of Noah. This is why some people hold to the idea that those spirits are the wicked and wicked people and some say there might be a connection with enough Aleem the offspring between the fallen angels and people, and which is in Genesis 6. So I would write preaching was prepayment who said he was preaching well is its event at a in the wagon. There just why don't you use a control and you want a serious structure is study. You want to use a modern translation that that gets this gets to the point and understands things he says make proclamation to proclaim, to carry out it was not a proclamation of years the gospel he never see the because the Bible says it is 927 is appointed unto men to die once, and judgment. Okay, time to call back okay but all right hey Rudy from Utah called back to top of the book of Daniel a lot of stuff in there and the Lord bless you and by his grace. Folks undermine another program powered by the Truth Network