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All right hey look for guidelines 877-207-2276. Let's get on the line with Anthony from Virginia Anthony welcoming on your talk with you about Luke the story of the rich man and Lazarus. And I've heard you say before that when he talks about the beggar being at Abraham's bosom or side that Abraham represents sort of like paradise and not really an actual, the actual biblical Abraham heard you say or is that not that. Abraham's bosom chest and all that his chest and his body slave comes bosom is just expression referencing the real Abraham but is calling bosom, and I know why I be interested to know the history of how that word phrase developed in relationship to that, but it's just another term for paradise. You're saying that when it Abraham not talking about the beggar being like with the biblical Abraham and in having your thing that will want you to do the lesson teaching here.

Did I say that I'm not being antagonistic notes. I did say this is not an issue of logic and communication think like I said it was a metaphor used okay about is not really a rims chassis at all your said are you saying that he didn't go with Abraham, the conclusion doesn't necessitate itself out of the premise is a small point of logic. I want people to start thinking okay so anyway know it doesn't it doesn't mean he wasn't with Abraham, but it does say that Abraham said child you know you said you time after which interesting is he a he spoke to other men in Hades, which I think is interesting because 80 in verse 23 in Hades of his eyes and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom.

What is that mean in his bosom and he cried out father Abraham, have mercy on me. Lazarus send letter to finger in water and Abraham said you talking so they could communicate so other English's going on why I remember you at gunpoint in the past thing that it wasn't really Abraham.

For them it was a metaphor for life heaven or paradise, and not confuse me because clearly Abraham is speaking as an individual in the packing I got was to compute the flight I said in a bosom is a chest area and a body. If you have a lot either shoulders or his arms, legs, the bosoms refer to the base with the chest so that he doesn't end the chest of Abraham that from Sanko.

I think it's a metaphor to an expression I think what it basically try and fail. The beggar was like being held or embraced by I think most people interpret that to mean is that you are the okay I and I had another another question for you. If you have time, I didn't.

I didn't tell it to the call screener but also about the author heard you say that in again. None of you that you had anything to do with is really my opinion, essential doctor and I'm just trying to clear something about that. I've heard you say you said you when John the Baptist baptized you that he did it by sprinkling well this is my view my view, tell you is not a popular view within Christianity, and is within orthodoxy, but it's not the popular view is is next 15 Virginia Jesus so John baptized with water, but you'll be baptized in the Holy Spirit many days from now.

All right, when we look at the phrase baptized with the Holy Spirit and you analyze what it is you find out that it's in reference to the pouring of the spirit, the Holy Spirit is said in the Old Testament to be poured forth. That's just how it's used on with your familiar with that.

Are you familiar with at all. I'm not dumb, but looking reclamation. Okay so today what limit do my notes open and Rico to do a find of the verses will show you but the pouring forth of the spirit came from the Old Testament and the so you know, for example, in Joel 228 God prophesies a pour out my spirit in verse 29 a poor forth my spirit Peter quotes that are next to 17 and $0.18 to pour forth the spirit and he goes verse 29 poured forth the spirit and find other was to hold the hunch actually quickly in acts 1044 to 48. The speaking in tongues is a demonstration of the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles. I got it so Isaiah 3215 until the spirit is poured out upon us.

Isaiah 44 30 pour out my Spirit on your offspring. Ezekiel 3929 I will have poured out my spirit in the house of Israel went to Joel 228, 29, 217 to 18 and to 33 X2 33 of the promise of the Holy Spirit is poured forth next Saturday with Jack to X 1045 the gift of the Holy Spirit in poured on the Gentiles and X to X3526 says that he saved is not on the basis of deeds what you've done in righteousness, but according was mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out upon us, and so that is how the Holy Spirit is said to be my but I've been poured right.

Would you agree I agree okay/15 John baptized with water, but you'll be baptized in the Holy Spirit is what is were baptized meaning in the context baptized in the Holy Spirit means they say that again please start okay so John baptized with water, you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit's was mean to be baptized with the Holy Spirit. According to Scripture means what you have your report on you. I guess I make sense does not so listen to John Willie mercy with water, but you'll be poured on with the Holy Spirit.

That's that consistent it. We say John baptized with water beads immersion with school. John emerged with water. You'll be merged with the Holy Spirit. That's not the biblical position that the Holy Spirit is 500. I understand that I yeah but I want and how that deal. The question of how the method that John the Baptist used to baptized either came so John baptized with water, you be baptized in the Holy Spirit if we, to say the blocking reaches if this word is means the same thing. Then we have a problem if John emerged with water you be merged with the Holy Spirit. It doesn't work. John poured with water to be part of the Holy Spirit that can work. Furthermore, Jesus was said you said to John that the requirement of his baptism was a court of law to fulfill all righteousness. Matthew 315 and if you go to number chapter 4 Leviticus chapter 8 and Exodus 29 in those three chapters. You can see some of the things that needed to be done to a priest to a man in order to for him to enter into the priesthood and Jesus was a high priest after the order of Melchizedek. So when Jesus says that his baptism had to fulfill the Old Testament where you go to find that was fulfilled.

You'll find out that his baptism, God the father said is my beloved son, whom I will pleased with. That's part of the requirement of a verbal blessing given to man to become a priest. Jesus the high priest. He had to have oil applied to him. That seems to be representative of the Holy Spirit in the first John 227 for that had me 30 years of age, Jesus of course was 30 when he started his ministry and had to be sprinkled with water that was number 67 and so therefore to be consistent and we look at Jesus doing fulfilling Old Testament. There is no place where it says anyone who goes in the priesthood. That's what Jesus was doing there and that he does it via immersion. It's by the sprinkling of water that's the command so I have a question about that. Tom came up out of the water. How do you when John the Baptist got hi them if they should know how to how you yeah you that okay when you go to acts okay.

The Ethiopian eunuch and Philip says next three or 836. It went on the road to came to the water eunuch said, look water. What prevents me from being baptized me from being baptized, and they got out of the chair and went down they come in and virtually nine when they came up out of the water. If you think the phrase came up out of the water means he was immersed. Then when it says they sent reference to Philip and the eunuch then both of them were immersed in the water when they came up out of the water. It doesn't make any sense you can be up to the water in your water to your knees, you're in the water. People make the mistake and they just do this all the time.

Oh, they were. It came about what it means he was immersed. No, it doesn't.

It could be possibly that was immersed. It can also be use. It means up to his waist. When I was in Southern California, Mike little girls would go out of the water on the beach. We will keep a good sharp eye on up there be up to their ankles or knees would take him up on the water, water is the same phraseology in the proof of this is in acts 339 when they came up out of the water if you want to say came up out of the water means immersed then Philip was also immersed with the eunuch. It doesn't make any sense okay walk into the Jordan and John wrinkled water and when he was up to his weight and water that kind of how you envision it. Yes, I now think about this thought. Think about this still had about 3000 people were added to the church. The 12 disciples in acts chapter 1, they were gathered actually to the 12 disciples were there 3000 were added that not to go outside the building to a place where they have the fountain in order to baptized that would being filthy water and that would that's a town drinking water. You'll do that you had to go someplace else of the Jordan River or some local body soda taken them couple hours, three hours to walk to that place to get baptized. So this during the night so we get back and put some math on this show you some stuff to get you to think guys hold on to what they voted right back after these messages. This could get interesting. With a lot of stuff people don't know about this, people assume so many they will be right back.

Please match Y call 770-7276 here's Matt's leg back to the show if you're intrigued by this discussion hopefully to filter air okay so fan 3000 people were baptized right there not you are able to do it in the upper room because you have to transport water sufficient to immerse a if that by immersion immerse a person and it takes like 500 pounds of water five or six.

I didn't math other smaller people Becton so they can go to the river if 12 disciples went to a river to baptize if they were to do 3000 for eight hours nonstop.

That means that to be in the water for eight hours and it had to baptize roughly every person every two and 20 seconds, I've been the Jordan it's on the cold side you think you be okay for eight hours, standing in the water. Hypothermia, probably not.

Probably not.

Well, what if they were only clear knees when you had a problem of their backs giving out because they could dip someone down in my way hundred pounds going down and then clothing is sopping wet on the way up is like 103 pounds hundred 405 pounds of water of weight total. They go down up for eight hours. Sorry, it just doesn't add up. It does make sense as it was in the Old Testament that they would take hyssop branches and sprinkle people. That's how it was done. Also, this is the whole saw the whole region of Jerusalem was going out to Jerusalem and Judea was going up John the Baptist to be baptized. So I did some research on and granted my notes. I don't do that and fill in that black my blitz. I did research is like 200 300,000 people in the area.

This is the whole region was going out to be baptized by John. Okay. If that's the case let's use looking for the reference but it's no big deal because it says all Judea and Jerusalem right and so that's that's all in… A 300,000 people… All of them are going out there. We know this mean every single individual, but it does mean not a lot of people are going out there to see John the Baptist a lot.

So if they were if he is only baptizing. Let's say no. 10,000/300,000 people that he's doing this for a year. The math means he'd be extremely busy baptizing 10,000 people know if you do this like hundreds right now. 10,000 okay, divided by 365 day. That's 27 a day.

27 a day.

That's just 10,003 or 55 days is no rest, and that means roughly what you know roughly one every three hours on the play. 727 a Davis roughly 21 hour okay more than one in our them.

That's all the time that's 24 hours, but is not to be 24 is good to be if we say eight hours will housing to do do this in eight hours is 27 solicitor is good be 50, 60 people were talking no one every every five minutes. 10 minutes 365 days this add up. And that's only if you do 10,000 people. So we start looking as you go in a minute.

These things aren't adding up.

It was by immersion.

It just doesn't add up.

If Jesus had to fulfill the Old Testament law. He was sprinkled. In fact, I can show you aware of that city baptism is for me, I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you the Holy Spirit.

The same word in Greek is Matthew 311 the baptism of the Spirit. There is the point fourth in spirit. John one 3320 baptized in the Holy Spirit, there it is again.

The point fourth and it says when it came the marketplace. They do not eat unless they cleanse themselves. Word classes baptize the exact same word from debtor to a baptize of the Holy Spirit to baptize themselves they have to cleanse themselves. Does that mean in the market that they take all the close optical get immersed in water.

Of course not see it is people just what in my opinion what's happened is people just bought into this hook line and sinker.

And I don't do any cross myelination of it. I do think that we focus on the gospel account appear as though immersion of being is I got. I want to go but I don't think that the defense will doctrine but doesn't well see this clearly you walk what well because of the traditional depiction of the people being baptized in rivers. They are fully immersed so that using traditional price. I people. Is it biblical Lee assume it is. Maybe it is. Maybe it is what is it that's the question I just ask people all the time. If you go to. I think it's a Hebrews you read. It's really interesting what happens when you go to Hebrews I think it's Hebrews this tooth this way it's toxic and he was six to, and he was here this he was 10 or nine town okay which really interesting. It says since talks information. Read Romans or Hebrews 9 and it talks about sprinkling and talks about the verse 13 the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled sprinkling those who have been defiled, sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much more the blood of Christ, who through the eternal offerings off of it cleanse you will if you know the biblical theology of the temple and redemptive work. The blood was sprinkled with how it was in the temple. It was sprinkled on John Jahnke for the high priest going is freckle blood on the mercy seat and people were sprinkled with blood sprinkled with white sprinkled with water.

This is what is talking about and Hebrews 9. But this is what he says. So the whole verse eight. The Holy Spirit is signifying this it the way to the holy place. This is Old Testament contempt tabernacle tempered the temple with the holy places not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle still standing, which is a symbol to the present time.

According to both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect his conscience since the day relate to food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until a time of of reformation when they appear, the regulations, the washings and the drink something like this that talks about the issue of having oil water blood sprinkled on you washing your hands and things like this in the word washings is Bob T's must listen reference to the context of sprinkling and application of stuff. It's right there in Scripture got on well there's an argument Eric and I can see that again II want to reiterate that I I don't think that the defense will doctrine, but it is interesting and I think it's right to try to get it right. From a biblical standpoint so I will thank you for your acclamation that you think so doesn't it.

Yeah. So that's good enough to get Bob think about all that more okay see you got bless you noticeably controversial folks but so what I do with this is I should not shake people up.

You know how much of what we've been taught. Is this something we just assume it is true, sit down everything I'm saying Jack just to subject then that is what we should do. I take one faith we have for Valencia McCall 87720776 we write back after these messages. Mats like why call 770-7276 charismatic leg back to so it through the lines it wanted to be a call 772072276 Spencer from North Carolina. Welcome around here about or energy healing. That's called stuff Michael does talk about energy healing in there that I get the Bible does not talk about energy healing.

It's a new way. Not all called right anything about your now when people talk about music does separate great energy or the power of God in the great energy is getting very very very very very careful because it's New Age philosophy discrete thing in the Christian church is making a comeback that I just released to two or three, four hours ago. Coasters are quotes from the physics of heaven of book. It's a cold, New Age book, but it's social Christian book written in support of new apostolic Reformation theology. So here's a quotes okay help us bring God's kingdom to this earth. The Lord is ready to use sound, light and energy in ways we never dreamed about all the contributors in the book to chapters a sense that God is on the verge of releasing something new on the earth, and that the new thing somehow walls vibrations frequencies energy sounds like and taking quantum leap of faith God used faith substance and word energy to create the universe see what happens is you take a word like energy and its use their energy and to work and things like that.

It's in the Bible then little do they can go back in this it will. God said, let there be light. Let's energy what he spoke. That means energies in his words, and we can say those words. Therefore, we can have energy. Okay so this is in that book, Peter carried the spirit of God within him. He carried original power of B light energy power light within him.

That's what we should be doing this he did just you to be careful because everything is energy at the foundational level of existence and all energy vibrates at a certain frequency. Well, I think, vibrates at a frequency and you get to with a frequency that you can control the energy.

It's all cultists and so this is just occultism, it's New Age idiocy that these people do not have the sense to stay away from. In fact what they do say this a viscous and part parcel what's going on with all say is that the New Age has things that are good and we just have to learn how to separate it from the bad joke.

The bitter thing is we can start looking at the New Age to see what things are biblical was looking to do it. It's not, let's examine the word of God. Let's look at the new agency with biblical in the new way.

Hello, this was at what was is not logical illusion is not a rough quote from that. You will also present at the end of the meeting and apostolic leader spoke and said God is beating getting to release kingdom building codes. I looked up as an angel standing right in front of me. I'm not an angel type of guy that suddenly there was an angel speaking to me saying I'm sent by God to answer your questions about the energy crisis find the energy Angel Angel went back with me to my hotel room and began talking to me about energy, you know, this is when you say they don't have all deposit the litter box. Something's wrong with him and I just wish to just stop stop stop you home. That's what it is all right listen the line here with Patrick from Charlotte North like a 12 or 15 different categories. So you going to look at them. I want to say thanks to him I want to see the whole name I guard people's privacy but Tracy, I want to thank you for running for the arts and Carl and Michael, and let's see who else would have thought one person. Tracy really lettuce Dr. Tim and let's see let's see, Blake, Jim, lot of people have been sending stuff in there is Brian and Jeanette. You know, and Jeff and all kindest of Roger so and Steve littlest soap Emily have with you a list. There's a lot of people been sending me stuff and I've really appreciated. Please continue to semi-documentation you can send it to info@harm.org and I do tell you, though it takes a while for me to go through all the stuff that you see is that works okay check with you computer guy.

The producer this evening and be back on online. I rebooted and I've been connection. Yes okay good alright well it happens folks through real radio would happen sometime biggest serve until he got hung up on. I thought that we just lost your you never call back if you want the skin to Patrick from Charlotte North Kelowna Patrick welcome hello Matt, I want to talk a little bit about the baptism thing you're speaking about. Okay, in John 131 to 34. You can read. I believe that Scripture explains why John the Baptist baptized in water okay do not recognize and what benefits it is like a baptizing lottery. He did baptized in water, we totally agree with you.

All one 31 to 34. John testified saying I have seen Mr. descending as a dove out of heaven remained on him but did not recognize him and sent me to baptized in water.

You, upon whom you see the Spirit descending meeting on him. This is the one who baptizes the Holy Spirit. I myself seen it testified there is no problem yeah because it it said that God had given him instructions that the one the dog comes down is the one will baptized in the Holy Spirit will I John was putting people underwater, looking for a dog because he had to testify that Jesus was the son of God, and I think that's what the question was all about. Here's a question, does it say he was immersing him.

Doesn't baptizing as people say baptism means immersion not always Wally had Jesus came up out of the water. It almost has to be under Murdoch doesn't thought at all is not logically necessary, you can walk into water up to your hips and begin the water come out of the water without being fully emerged as I was saying in acts chapter 8 when it talks about the Ethiopian eunuch and Philip says they both came up out of the water soak so they all baptism today should be sprinkled. No, I didn't say that.

I'm just saying I don't what I am saying is just like sprinkled one declared everybody should be cycle. Not necessarily.

I would like to let Sir let me insert. Let me answer you keep asking the questions I start to answer the keep jumping and again so 100 time. Okay, it does not necessitate that every individual must therefore be sprinkled or poured upon.

I'm just saying that in the Scriptures.

You can't make the case that baptism only means immersion. That's what I'm trying to say okay I will baptized in the heavens open up the air and land on Jesus. Yes. Okay. So that goes along with Scripture. John 133 were the one who sent me to baptize told me one where the defendant on so John was making a bite and that Donnie was completing his testimony and for that reason, like this one baptized John the Baptist because Jesus had to let John baptize him in order to see the dog and the truth about John no no no no no no no no, it wasn't so that he could see the dove reason he was baptized, Jesus says, is to fulfill all righteousness. That's Matthew three brightening to fulfill means Old Testament to fulfill the right not know that it needs to hear the high priest of what church he's a high priest as of the order of Melchizedek. Hebrews 620 and Hebrews 725 says so well jailed local works in order to be thoughtful and I'm pretty close on of God is is where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us having become a high priest forever after the order my cousin. Hebrews 620 is a hold on you to submit the Scripture okay hold on me right back folks after these messages that would Patrick. It should be interesting.

We have one of the line 87720776 max Y call 770-7276 pairs mats like Colorado ready walk back to the show. Patrick yeah I'm here right okay so okay you there so that all right will will you. Hebrews 626 20 says that is a high priest after the ordinal cousin Dick. This is why he entered this way was baptized to fulfill Old Testament law requirements. Some people say it was to identify with sinners. That's not the case is said to fulfill all righteousness to fulfill the Old Testament and go to Leviticus 8 members for exit 29 we look at those chapters will see that he did those things necessary, in part because not every individual things mentioned to him entering the priesthood is very simple. Everything article on it have all documentation. There can well I John 134. It said that John had baptized Jesus and then Ian fulfill his testimony so that testimony is brought up in acts 531 to 34 all over you, but I'm just not quite like the pros.

Yes, but I was showing how they relate to your naturale related because July 30 John or license doesn't deal with baptism.if you can read John 531 to 34.

You'll understand will switch your point, we were going to say while my John the Baptist water baptized to find Jesus the son of God, he saw the dog and that's reason he was baptized. John G.

Baptism is not easy. I agree he will head to baptize Jesus. The question is did the baptism constitute immersion sprinkling or pouring that's the question the point because of what you may not remove on Patrick. That's what we have callers waiting swing get on the colors.

It's good to Todd from Ohio, I taught welcome where you will break the question put it out like that.

Sure, if I die from 500 looking at a calendar what your day.

Why don't because Internet calendars well did but my question is will.

How did you see happening went after Jesus came about.

Did everything get rewritten backward for no no people would have people in different dating systems in different cultures you like from the day of the Exodus or might be a different culture, the day when certain battle happened zero 18 moons or 18 sons. Whatever might be what we see in this issue or talk about with calendar is when Western civilization began to coalesce and calendar time, times and dates became more necessary and so they just codified it all and used Jesus a birth as the year zero. Both PCs before Christ. Afterwards that that's all for us whatever that had to be private. I'm kind of time. Between all the event in the day.

No course well. How I did it. You can look at the Bible and the BC X amount of years I was always been computers on how they came up with a timeline count backward. I didn't count backwards. No no no the writers would say that this happened.

The archaeologists in modern people would look at is six. This happened like a the decree to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem was March 14 445 BC will hardly know that because I don't have it because archaeologists can date certain events and the related like tree rings, you know she related here that they can cross reference certain things and they say will. It was 320 years before this one event. In this one event was to 28 years after that event, but that that other event occurred 300 years before this event. In this event, we have time this event we know what happened exactly when it was so then they just do the math and they say all happen for 45 BC. It's that kind of thing. It wasn't that the people at 445 BC were like it's 445 BC. It wasn't like right. It will live in that time. What would let you know how old they were, you know how to set you is 20 years old hundred years old, as measured by the system that we don't use like the Muslims go by the moons and we go by the Solomon's mother, things then the nurse issue lies at 360° it looks like it was because the calendars all of the world were 360 days, and then roughly around 701 BC. There was a change in the cost. The calendars all over the world. Nobody knew what you're there. They know what year they were born in the year they were born in. They didn't related to the future idea BC they just knew what I hear.

They report 18 years ago was the year they were born at the new that okay I okay I think of less. Okay, let's get to know we just lost eternal salvation when talking with Atlas get on with Alberto. Okay Alberto your own body.

We got him out. Okay, what a big Mac like the question why the Christians want what I didn't approve of creation is not a Christian. One of them will make a statement when we when you in the world wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait you going way too fast. I don't understand what you're saying and recently why do Christians what why do crazy OHI did you not a child I got what? The moment you live in the wait wait wait wait wait just to commit a premise at the address the premise first you said why do Christians always try improve. People are not saved. That's not the case. What not not not, God will Christian world that never appalled when the mommies at the Laurie get anything you recognize them or or or or or or I'm out from the Nancy concept Alberto I'm not following what you're saying.

I understand quite well what that will mean brought in the world live know Christ never told me about it neatly cut. I got the moment the Lord here… Opposition to anything.

All you will you not that you not even the church members all you know it pastors you know Randall, I'm not going on the following what you're saying you seem to ask a question where a narration is is inserted into a question, a narration of a bunch of violence at 80 miles an hour all against all acts difficult. Okay okay well well why don't we could win the mommies that the Lord not before the I don't understand what you're asking, why not, God will moment who you or leave believers or believers Alberto Liebert, Alberto, Alberto, we gotta move along okay and that was going on a beetle. The coffee I'm not able to follow what he saying, trying to get him to slow down and focus but is not the case. Let's get to Monty from Raleigh North Carolina money welcome here. Yeah you you my brother. Thank you. I would, I would wondering on resurrection day and I tried to find the Scripture to support the question I would.

Jesus is on the cross. Obviously, God is having good. Steve why have you forsaken me where where can we placed the Holy Spirit that day. Where was the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is by definition everywhere.

Okay, okay, so I get. Your answer would be that he was there with Jesus on the cross.

Well, there's different sentences which we can understand what it means to be somewhere in the sense of God's existence, he can be in a sense look localized in my heart and that he is indwelling me the way he's not indwelling in unbeliever, but he's also at the same time, everywhere in the universe I don't know how to work and so the Holy Spirit it, but because the Holy Spirit is divine and divinity has the property of omnipresence, then we have to say that the Holy Spirit is everywhere in the yes I appreciate that would fit neatly what I got with it what you with physically on the cross, which places him I would on the cross for their God would've allowed them to try to deceive, though there would've been some idea about the president of the Spirit. But if you think you know you did not contact.

I understand. Don't forget to arise were discussing Jesus when he was baptized.

Holy Spirit came down upon him as a dog not in the form of a dove, but as a domain. What kind it is flitter down and so that's that's seems to imply a kind of a localization we cannot say that the Holy Spirit stopped being everywhere all the time and was located in that little whatever it was it came down as a dove is a dove flies down the sink and so you can say that so there's there's two census, which would deal with the presence of the Holy Spirit. There one is there seems to be kind of a localization refocus and the other is that while by his nature.

Yes to be everywhere all the time. Furthermore, this gets more interesting when we look at the natures of Christ to just two natures divine and human, so that the divine nature, stopping everywhere it cannot be otherwise. The attribute the property of omnipresence was no longer part of the word, but that's can't be because properties emanate from the essence or the Entente's and the.

The essence of God is divinity, which has logically has necessary properties. One of them being omnipresence so that would mean that since Jesus had two natures of divine and the human the divine nature had to have omnipresence that human nature did not have omnipresence. This is where there's a mystery. We have paradoxes here. How can we have two seemingly opposite things. I'm Nisha omnipresence and not omnipresence both abide in the one person of Christ. The solution seems to be to say that the attributes of both natures are ascribed to the person and yet at the same time, he emptied himself clippings 2528 so we don't know what it means when Jesus emptied himself, we don't know to what extent the relationship is of the properties of both natures in the one person we can't solve it because God doesn't tell us some movies do is to say he had those attributes describe the single person and yet he spoke a single person and then we get into other things that relate to this I do with these questions semi-regularly going about okay, that one would think about what the Greek word for baptism. The pizza piece my spot, but they who the verb forms by pizza okay and and that will will is that means what it means in context.

Call back tomorrow and will go over some of the context becoming washing again immersion pouring everything to be a figurative well okay folks were at the time the Lord bless you. Hope that was an enjoyable show, by his grace back on there tomorrow another program powered by the Truth Network