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February 23, 2022 3:00 pm

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February 23, 2022 3:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Topics include---1- Why is the New Jerusalem called the bride of Christ---2- Why Matt disagrees with a pre-trib rapture.--3- Is it wrong to be living with a man and not get married---4- A caller wanted to continue the conversation regarding Matt's view of the pre-trib rapture.--5- Have you heard of Dr. Herald Beverly---6- Is partial preterism biblical---7- Does God hardening Pharaoh's heart go against his free will-

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Why is it apologetic to research what is thought a lot why the metric life. All right, it is so February 21, 2022 pounds just Charlie doing something in his ears. I can't get this right it's average working all the autos working it's working so this would help ensure that all set should work. So if you want to give me a call folks as normal 877-207-2276 and we can know blab about amenable about five open lines going to give me a call now to start to get those going on. We have a live feed that goes into YouTube and Facebook and there's little connection problem thing even though all the connections are correct. It is verified.

So while there we go right hopefully break in here. All right, so how'd you do this weekend, I got 76 of the talk about what's up with the audio check is really fast I can focus on this. Then tell you how things went.

Let's see. No, that's right, the audio is fine if settings are right and I know what to do one thing, turn one switch in the work we go.

All right hey. So anyway I got. I do a lot of lot of work on the Internet and I do a lot of impromptu discussions, debates, teachings, and things like that and swimming discord.

And I'm also in clubhouse on the telegram do something Instagram kind of stuck it's so so yesterday the day before I was in one of the chat rooms and there's an assault occurring more and more on the deity of Christ. I spent a lot of time arguing teaching and refuting debating about the deity of Christ and there a lot of good people out there who really know biblical theology who are able to answer all kinds of objections and stuff. So I'm glad to hear that. I'll tell you there is a rise at least I've seen lately of those who deny who Jesus Christ really is not. You don't know who you let me tell you he is God in the flesh. He's a second person of the Trinity. These same people will deny the Trinity and they will go into the issue of supporting Unitarianism Unitarianism is the idea that God is not three-person but one person, and so with all do as they will attack the doctor, the Trinity, they very often don't get it right, but occasionally they do but they will attack the doctrine of the Trinity and then it's happening a lot more and if you hear this and how to questions about the deity of Christ to Trinity and various things ask me. I want you to be able to ask because it's what I do for living is answer questions on radio for your for 17 years, but doing it on the website for 26 years and around the different places different ways for many years before that.

So the number 877207227601 your friend to give me a call and we can blab all right, all right, let's get to. Let's see to be Rob from San Dimas, California village, I meant that.

All right, buddy forgot them. There are 21 to write the holy truth of record it right hello verse nine and became likely one of the seven angels which had the bio left click income gator.

I was sure the right collapse. Life and he carried me away in a spiritually great and high mountain, and showed me that great date of the Holy Ghost. The thing out of heaven from God question is difficult versus: nine only city Jerusalem makes it difficult to grow.

Item 11 I went over to take this moment the Christian church is metaphorically called the bride of Christ, and so yeah that's what's going on there and if you go to Revelation. You'll see that the church is mentioned in different ways.

Now some people say that after Revelation chapter 4. The church is no longer mentioned and that means is a raptor occur and that's just not true. The bride right here is the church and also there's a reference to the 24 elders and this is a discussion to have on what that is.

The 24 elders and it looks like I let's go backwards here 2424 elders are also the church says in Revelation 919 424 elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who sits on the throne. Amen hallelujah and some believe that that's with the criminals is that Christian church and so we see the bride mentioned, it looks like what revelations is doing is talking about the consummation of the ages and the relation of the church of Christ from different perspective at different times.

Some people think that Revelation is a direct linear progression from the first word to the last word. It's chronological, but it may not be the case. There's evidence that its habitat. It happed 77 cycles repeating the same thing from the perspective so hence we might have the 24 elders as well as the bride of Christ. And even though the word church is mentioned also.

So there's a lot of debate about the book of Revelation, and it's not exactly easy to just get there and and analyze liquid like okay okay great was pretty much like you articulate people like all of it, but I never really correct answer that question seems to be that it's it's the know, the bride of Christ and the nursing as of the bride of Christ is difficult and white and white as a symbol of purity from that's us.

That's the bride of Christ is metaphoric and also Jesus says that labels on all this. He says I think it's in John see John 14 in my father's house are many dwelling places that were not so would've told you Fred go to prepare a place for you so a lot of people don't know that this is a reference to the wedding feast already when procedures in the ancient culture there.

When bride and a groom were engaged was an arranged marriage and so one of the thing easily all year long and one of the things the father of the groom would say to the sun was to put hair a room for them to live and usually attached to their house now. I couldn't always be the case because you have live in a city where houses can be expanded, but a lot of them were agrarian, a lot of them will have the fields and had houses that were plenty of room to expand and so that's what they think, so that what the father would do was say the sun prepare a place and then when it's ready and had be ready by a certain time because people had to come in from law here and there and far away in order to participate and enjoy the wedding feast. The father would say about go get your bride and the trumpeters would sound preceding the arrival of the groom to get the bride than they would get the bride and come back to that house because the groom had paired prepared a room for the bride that he and she would live in so John 14 to life in my father's house are many dwelling places. If it were not so would've told you, for I go to prepare a place for you if I go prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself, that where I am, there you mail. Also, be less. John and we talk about this stuff in the rich and the book of Revelation were talks about the bride and so the bride this is in Revelation 18 in the light a lamp will not shine any longer. The voice of the bridegroom and the bride will not be hurting you any longer as much, but I just look at the word bride here. Is there.

Let us rejoice and be glad. Revelation 19, seven let's rejoice and be glad to give glory to him for the marriage of the Lamb has come and his bride has made herself ready.

It was given to her to clothe him herself in fine linen, bright and clean for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. So it goes on it for next verse in Revelation 19 and he said right. Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb because what happened in the marriage supper, the bride would be near her house. The sun would be in his with the father and incidentally this the father would say. You may now go get your bride and this had to be known what day it was going to happen because the of the people who are relatives and friends of the family had to be there in order to participate in the wedding feast. If this out was done and it was an idiomatic expression where the friends of the groom would say when is the day in the hour and the groom considers no one knows the day nor the hour. Only the father and it was a respectful way of showing the sovereignty and respect to the father in the home and so they would know what day it was me that exact hour, but they would know was an idiomatic expression of the father would say to the son look at the bright, the trumpeters would precede go get the bride and then they would come back bring the bride back and then they would have a wedding feast after the wedding. When I was in Jerusalem just really close to the Wailing Wall.

We were there and I heard noise I heard sound in tambourines and singing and marching and I refer those trumpets think that because it was so they draw attention, and it was a wedding feast that wedding feast was a wedding procession. It had the bride and the groom, and they were celebrating. It was noisy and they were coming through this big crowd of people and people in the crowd knew what was going on because her Jews and they would celebrate and clap as a kind of proceeded through and as they went and it was reminiscent of this whole thing the right so that you go. Hope that helps. Really appreciate your degree you cited now this so you know, here's a comment because a lot of people look at this a pretrip rapture is proven in the book of Revelation, because the church is no longer present. After Revelation chapter 4. But that's not true. In Revelation 21 and also 19. The bride is there, the Lamb goes to get the bride if the rapture is Kim getting the bride then why does the getting the bride happen after Revelation chapter 4 inhabited the list went on Revelation 19 C okay let's rate every euro I think it's her. He was a big help. I got blessed to back draw from San Dimas that were of Bill and Ted, Bill and Ted's excellent adventure to Cindy was a false light of the lighted want to give me a call 877207227 psychogenic all we have nobody waiting right now to break coming up here little bit but I want you to a zip meal to call her now… I talked with the rapture might do just a little bit to show you guys something that a lot of people don't know about don't see in a first Thessalonians 416 and second Peter break talking about this and it might be very thing when I read it to see what you think about it, but nevertheless they give me call life 877-075-7707 show Haley up for monument call 877-207-2276. Let me read something and if the caller is what it says you can take note of this and compare yourself. This is what the Scripture says the Lord himself as the first Thessalonians 416 for the Lord himself will distant from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel. The trumpet of God and the dead in Christ will rise first and we who are alive and remain will be caught up together to meet them in the clouds will always be with the Lord.

Therefore comfort one another with these words. Now as to the time for the epic spreader and you have no need to be thing to be written to you for you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come to suck a thief in the night so that they Lord calligraphy for the night.

That's the rapture right and multiple say well that's automatic and that's what that means is before the tribulation period or before the millennium. Okay the rapture look at second Peter 310 but the day of the Lord, the thief wait a minute. It said that they look about a thief in the night there and when the rapture occurs in the first Thessalonians 4, but is second Peter 310 for the day of the Lord cometh, a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements we destroyed with intense heat.

How do they fit together. That's a good question.

They give me a call for open lines 877-207-2276.

Let's get to Julie from Cynthia in Cincinnati, Ohio. Julie will coming on here like a pretty good marriage married for 22 years delete me for another one and the man with prescribing years of wonderful man. I do not want to get married that I struggle with this. On a related and I when you can get your thoughts on will you want me talk to you straight kind of sauce and it all right you are in direct violation of God's will and you were in open sin and rebellion against him and you need to stop you, to repent, if you don't want to get married you don't have the right to engage in living in in a marriage type relationship without the covenant of marriage and engage in because her children listening.

I'm sure in the union that husband and wife participate in so that another seven and to generate will meet me scare you because sometimes people need to be scared to follow the truth because you're comfortable where you are and no judgment has come upon you, but you have a conviction of you raised a Catholic. I'm sorry for that because this is another women Catholicism is not Christian it's full of idolatry is full of of paganism and it's just not true. You have not learned the true gospel from the Catholic Church and the idea Catholicism is that you can just go get resolved through certain facts and everything be taken care of. That's not the case here is not the case.

Biblically and so you have been living in sin and God has let you live now a lot of time God does is he disciplines people like that. There's different ways you test one of them is to harden their hearts, so they're comfortable with her sin, so that the judgment of eternal damnation comes upon them, and now they participate in that judgment don't realize it because the conviction is gone that the judgment of God. Another judgment is that he lets us say it's their attention, as in car accident, sickness. This often happens and another thing God does is he kills him. He may think that God would do that yes you will go first contents five was a man having relations with his father's new wife and also deliver such a one over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh to youth understand that you're in great sin, you need to repent first thing I'm concerned about is are you even saved. Now I'm not trying to get all over you here and make you feel bad but you know I just got a house you saved two years ago I could hear need to get the Bible and I read it I write back study guide. I have already started the New Testament study and okay now, Mike, I miss you some questions here okay check. Let's say I don't want this to happen is not going to happen, but was is a meteor comes out of the sky and vaporizes you right now and you're suddenly standing before God, and he says he asks you why should let you in heaven.

What would you tell him I like. I try to limit that part of my life where I'm not so good answer that answer will get you eternal damnation. I don't think you know the gospel us now to understand I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not condemning you, I'm just informing you.

I don't believe you know the gospel. This you need to know what I want to tell it to you. Okay I so I think I'm in a back up here and give you little more than you might need.

I just want you to understand that Jesus Christ is God in flesh, and he became one of us and it was made under the law, and he fulfilled the law perfectly and course they lied about him and hated him and sent him to the cross that was on that cross that he bore our sin in his body on that cross is what he did and he died with it that with those sins and then he rose 3 days later and he ascended to heaven. 40 days later.

Now because Jesus is God in flesh. She did everything perfectly, and so therefore you and me included, can do absolutely nothing to merit to get to achieve anything for salvation. Everything you have, what I say you I'm included. Okay, so you everything you do is touched by sin every single thing that comes out of your heart is affected by sin and nothing that you do it will ever be good enough. Your sincerity is not good enough either. True salvation means to trust in Christ by faith alone, not by faith in your sincerity. You try to be a good person.

I will get on that that bad someone else I know I made a few mistakes but you understand that gets you to eternal damnation. That's what cults teach is what room Catholicism teaches in Roman Catholicism is bankrupt.

The building some analysis of it. After the call here publicly but the thing is you need to trust in Christ alone for salvation by faith alone break the folks we write that government is for the life Inc. 77577077 back to the show with Québec on Julie, are you still there are trying to explain is that there's nothing you can do in any way shape or form to earn salvation in any way with God. The Roman Catholic Church Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses all false religions say that it deals with Christ and what you can do in your sincerity and that's a formula for damnation because it's saying that Christ on the cross is bloodshed on the cross is equal to what we can do in our sincerity of heart, and that God the father will accept both the sacrifice of God God in flesh. The second verse of the Trinity as well as our own sacrifices of works in sincerity are equal. That's what the people are saying without realizing it, and they're not there is Apsley nothing you can do in any way shape or form. This is why the Bible says in Romans 45 to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his face his credit as his righteousness.

So you need to be forgiven of your sins. Have you ever prayed and asked Jesus to forgive you for all of your sentencing done all the time. Okay and but your sins won't be forgiven if you add your works in your sincerity to it as though that's how he's going to forgive you based on your sincerity in your works and what Jesus is done that's a it's demonic teaching that a lot of churches teach understands by Christ alone. But you do something else.

You got an you have to count the cost youth understand that if you truly trust in Christ that you have to understand you have to know that he's can require of you holiness is gonna require of you following him. Which means you don't live with a man you're not married to what it means. It means right away if you can to be serious about following the Lord Jesus Christ. It means that you have to abandon the sin that you are in, and turn from it she leaves or you leave and that's how it has to be when you get right with God, you find a good church you get involved with the church now. Have you ever want to make sure the Senate you ever asked Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins, receive him to trust in him and him alone. I will concern I have is a you say you pray to him and trust him and that your rebelling against them at the same time right now and you should be struggling. I'm glad you're struggling. I'm glad it's difficult for you not wanting discomfort for you, but I do want discomfort for you if it brings you to repentance is God has worked upon you and this is speaking to you. You need to trust in Christ alone and give yourself to him all the way in Luke 1428, Jesus talks about cochlea and the cost of what it is you want to take to do to be a Christian does not mean I intellectually believe in God. It means I faithfully trust in what Jesus has done and realized that I need to follow him.

He said in Luke 928 that if you do not. John 920 if you don't pick up your cross daily and follow after him. You're not worthy of he calls you to follow him to not serve your own flesh you you must repent of your sin, you must stop that sin, you must get rid of that situation of living together. He was depend on Christ alone. You need to be going to church to not go to the Catholic Church at all and need to find a good church in your area attend and you get right before God as we need to do all the wonderful by follow if you want to tell you what we have someone who is such a sweetie and her name is Joanna and she runs the prayer ministry at Carmen and Carmen know if you're familiar with. It is my website, but if you were to email and say print out email prayer@karma.org CRM.org you can email her and she and people have agreed to pray, but she has this habit of talking to people and she's a sweetie and she would be glad to talk to you and just just a southern accent to enter just spend time with you and help you know if you want to not just telling you right prayer. It kind of work. Please keep listening and want to call me back in a few days or a week or so and let me know what you're doing right yes well you know I I like to laugh and have fun, and though something clicked you for the mail. I love it is fun. That's right right Julie, I care about you okay I care about you and I want you do it right before God. So contact us at prayer@karma.org okay if you want to write okay alright alright well that is important ministry work. All right, let's get to Natalie from Raleigh, North Carolina.

Natalie welcome you are on the air. This again I heard that you are talking about.

And you had ever event that a lot is a direct answer is no.

When they know that I think that all that are happening on them when I read the Bible. I don't know when you use that for that dad will rise of the faith I think is like birth or the like me or through what you think that basically I will read it offer you that it basically talk this out though, that being the people that had not worked the 50 not thinking it had been beheaded for their money or pray and that I said that this is the resurrection bill letting the first resurrection. Basically after the tribulation that many people believe that there be a rack there for tribulation and I like it doesn't add up.

When I read I want to know your thoughts on. I agree with you. I believe the rapture but it's in the Bible versus last four but when does it have well dear, something is going to mess you up even more. You've heard the phrase you know two minute if you want to take and what is left right next rapture right it's it's not when people read the context you find out that those verses are can't be used to support the rapture because those verses aren't about the rapture embedded 24, Luke 17, the ones were taken of the wicked.

After the verses all like I just challenge anybody just read the context to go back and forth. Matthew 24 Luke 17. Find the parallels to Benefiel was taken read the context those who the wicked are the ones were taken and even asked Jesus what it taken in Luke 17. At the end of the chapter says with a body is a vulture together now when you go to Matthew 13 Jesus talks about the parable of the wheat and the tears the wheat of the believers.

The tears of the unbelievers, but in Luke Amanda Matthew 1330 he says that so don't turn them off, you know equal yet we delete the harvest basis and will say to the reapers first gather the tears that gather the wheat barn.

The first one to gather the court of Jesus, the wicked, that's what it says Matthew 13, and body little. This just blows him away because when there taken, and he explains the parable to take the judgment.

But how can that be if the rapture is pre-tribulation rapture and yet the wicked was taken first. Doesn't make Bible I like you know they only allow you to hold sort of the break out of the break folks with two of my colleagues 775-7707 so you are saying we have to break so well for a viable that rapture but it only the rapture will come after great now I audit. I will be a future matter. Kind of scary thing that of all of very large and think that were not here Wendy thing where we are here file like they're not there that I post you know until it is my concern to. I didn't know I would wrong in the way that I think that maybe I was wondering.rapture work for her before it really what you're not know I have a study to be presenting the work on PowerPoint presentation video commentary medical through a show that very very very very strong argument that the rapture occurs after the tribulation and that it is also going to occur with the new heavens and new earth. Believe it or not, there is no literal thousand year reign and that's my position and you know if it's a grievance that's fine, but have a very good argument very one of the things however back in the rapture with 2431's 931 Jesus said, but immediately after the true relation of those days that he says the tribulation people's it was not the great tribulation will guess it is because this is Matthew 24, 21 figure will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred and he says and 29 just eight verses later, but immediately after the jubilation of those days so that after the great tribulation.

That's the phraseology of the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give.

It's like the stars will fall from the sky. The powers of the heavens. We shaken the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky.

Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the cloud in the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet and he will gather together his elect. The four winds, the gathering of the people that that's rapture is concomitant with the arrival of Christ by Jesus on work happens after the tribulation confirming welcome okay you two got bless all right, it was Natalie.

Let's get on the phone with Rick from Salt Lake city Rick welcome your near you are a man hanging in there, but we got like my book by Kenneth Dr. Harold R Beverly. Formative good Bible about to be honest I know nothing except for what I research during the break because I saw it ahead of time that you are asking. And of course I can't judge a book by its cover, but I did find this this is real cast ministries.com. His website that he and his wife pastored a church and that's a problem.

Women are to be pastors so I looked to work she will lie is there's other red flags like it was trying to downplay state Satan is not truly affect the likelihood of history of God that you work the adversary of Michael… Okay if what you could do is if you want is you could send me the quote in the page of the book center to inflict carbon org and it is about this this guy. Here's the book I can do an exposé on because I lately I've been doing more and more on preclinical preachers and teachers and so a big leaded to do that guy went through the statement of faith and doubt you understand.

I'm a bit a bit excessive doctrinal understanding and I found his statement of faith to be minimally sufficient. Nothing heretical in it but wishes more detail some stuff but I don't Reformation. Yet that is bad news is bad news is called NAR. It's bad news is involved without book is called the all new reprobation. Okay, stay away from NAR is it's it's so bad, movement of present-day apostles and prophets, who then direct people and that God has appointed them for the present day church is a hierarchical structure that is developing and that the Christian people need to submit to the heart structure of the apostles and the prophets, and they will tell you what is to be done and what you just to teach and so this is know this is a story that I heard this directly from a teacher at a Christian college who is geographically located very close to the red of the Reading area where necessary lot of the NAR stuff come from and I had people who went to their schools of of evangelism and and stuff come up to him.

He didn't.

They didn't know who he was that he knew his theology very well and they basically pray for you and he said sure. They pray Denise Jackson with the gospel was they didn't even know they didn't even know the gospel, and this is a huge warning.

Nothing at all of them are like that, but it's a warning and middle get back into starting the NAR again, but their clever and in my opinion dangerously to avoid the NAR like a plague like you hundred truth that also might be something that doesn't look right is another few hundred truth that something doesn't look right. So little leg and thigh just a little of. So you wouldn't pastors are deathly bad and though the church might have a lot of good and it wouldn't pastors I can trust him. I just can't trust the builder to get the Bible right 808 book of the day. They don't believe that Revelation is going to happen early to think a lot of it is already yes that's praetor prism which is full. Plagiarism is bad news, partial praetor prism is within orthodoxy. Partial print residences. Those events described in Matthew 24. Luke 17 Mark I relish in 20 etc. occurred around 60, 70 A.D., but they're going to occur in fulfillment in totality again as a return of Christ and the ones were there. The book begins the skull partial praetor prism that was there, but will also be again.

And that's within orthodoxy, except that if anyone says it Jesus return in the armies of Jerusalem of Rome and is flat out wrong.

He also has a problem with support with Lucifer falling to me. It could be like it could be a parallel, I don't see not talk about talking about Lucifer because Jesus later on so that he's a loser fall from the sky like discredit that.

Also, some weird, but it is debate about rising 1412 and following about you fall from heaven saw the morning and some say that it's not necessarily Satan's discussion about it.

It does seem to be clutched fall from heaven. You know you are in heaven and I'm with you on that one.

So if you want you can just write up some of those quotes in the book the students of the book, would you send me the name of the book and what pages in the quotes I can file it away and it entered category are useful.

I analyze them. I will use that I'm actually just released when an anti-Stanley, I'm doing another one on Sam Shimon right now is another guy.

And so doing analysis on preachers and teachers should go, blessed all right okay let's get to Johnny from Archdale, North Carolina.

Welcome your hire my all right sweetheart mommy will break and then we got a question for you. My debate began with them, but we know you got yourself a better product by debate began all right now. You wrote Piper on the omnipotence of God, the God or free will or are we puppet predestined for everything that is a big subject them to give our good boy but anyone in the Bible is a God hardened Pharaoh's heart and if you hardened Pharaoh's heart against the Israelites do that. Take away the by Rosemarie, will you know you have a will that the letter did God choose the will or you targeted a lot to harden the heartbeats to strengthen and what he was already doing and plus that I was a heart that way that God him and that direct yes my ass is him pushing the direction absolutely proverb 21 one says God moves the heart of the king where he wishes it to go. So Pharaoh hardened his own heart. But God also hardened his heart, so the issue here is can both be true in answers yes Pharaoh hardened his own heart because he is wicked and evil.

The plagues are coming upon Israel and he's getting his rear handed to buy the plagues that God is at one point Pharaoh's going to give up with okay uncle, you know, at that point God hardens his heart, so the rest of the plagues they manifested for God's glory and the prophetic utterance of of typology firstborn sacrifice and things like that.

That's all the big deal they still had slaves free will of course some of the hardening of our wow thank you that what you hardened does not mean he doesn't have a free will. It's hardens. God has the right to harden it. Now the question is, how is it hardened you see I can, for example, if you and I are sitting there in a restaurant I can make you do what I want you to do without violating a free will. I can point to a direction to what is that you look over there and I didn't force you to against your will you choose Joseph out of your own free will and this is an illustration. God can certainly bring circumstances around to do the same kind of thing and bring judgment upon his heart harden even more than what he that's one way hardening someone heart even more. The direction of Sam Valerie's mother was. I got 5 to 10 seconds left so that the fullness of the 10 plagues would come into manifestation so that ultimately the firstborn would die, and those who went through the blood of the posts to the door, represents Christ justified and we say typological faith in Christ that have.

I would say the Sabbath furnish a call back tomorrow about that with save up for call back also. Another program powered by the Truth Network