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As you know, yesterday I had to I talked about a family whose make a decision to medically pull the plug saved in a nice way and so being clergy.

They asked me to come over. I volunteered house talk to them and then last night they had to make a decision and despicable hospital.

And so with the hospital and we all gathered the same time and we went into ICU and they had to put masks on a stick with this plastic garments all over us and have her gloves. We went into the ICU and the sons sons wives. The mother who of the son was the wife of the man who died and use of reason. My trying to invade anybody's privacy and publicize things like that. I know a lot of us go through things and have gone through things. I certainly have my father, my mom, my son, my wife, father, others things happen like this in life. The reason I'm bringing it up trying to be delicate about it is because it's a family thing they did asked me to go when were in ICU.

I was off in the distance trying to be polite, distant and either when they need me I'm right there and I watched watched as the process went through state arranged to signify what they did they say goodbye. The tears talking to him here not course and there he was with the tubes and stuff and that it was time to take all the support equipment away, which means that his body would fail so they made the decision in the pull the curtain and we stay behind the curtain as the staff did that and then after about five minutes. This is okay here we go, and so I stayed where I was with a polite distance and watch the family as they grieve the loss of a loved one and what struck me was the glory to the Lord. That was the wife she was praying and thinking Jesus and rejoicing that heat that her husband was going to be with the Lord, and of course there were tears and was sad was tough and but I was just struck by by that hope and dedication to the Lord Jesus the even the price of his glory and his mercy in the middle of all that pain and suffering and how I was privileged to be able to sit by and watch my certainly participated in the other around sitting loved ones go but as a clergy when I sat watch and then courses to be distant but not trying to be intrusive or rude either balance it's hard to maintain my Bible at one point asked me to pray and I did salesman I prayed for them and him and watched him pass away, and watched him by faith and renew the presence of the Lord and I was just pleased to see to hear the name of Jesus being exalted and through tears, the faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and realizing that the nature of sin on this world and in this world has caused suffering and very kind to bring levels. Yet somehow, someway, Christ is there and the it was it was a pleasure to see that see others who are dedicated to the Lord you are suffering but yet they love God and love the Lord Jesus was good you. It reminds me when my wife and I so many years ago about 20 years ago.

Our son will get all the details, but I can tell you this, and if she were on the air with me. She would say the same thing that somehow through what the Lord was there. The presence of God is there. What I've learned. One of the things I've learned through situations like this, particularly for us Christians is that suffering is something is appointed to us and it is granted to look at 129 system, but also is not a cold work of God's hand versus your deal with this and turns away is not. Instead what it is is his care is grieving with us is suffering with us and through it when we praise his name and look to him and go through those difficulties. It glorifies God. But it also in that way comforts. The ones were grieving and there is this hard to explain but through the process. There's a peaceful presence of God. While we suffer Christians know what that as many of them to who have experienced this and I relate this because I know there's a lot of people out there who are going through some difficult times in this area losing family members sickness and things and that their heartbreak a and you want to suffer so much. Yes questions why Lord and those questions just want answered.

But we know that God is there with us. God grieves suffers with us because he lives in us and he is aware of our pain and I was reminded last night even the suffering of the son of God on the cross and those who loved him, must agree in God the father undoubtedly was affected by the suffering son. This is what we go through.

Sometimes, that's what's appointed to us in this life by God's permissive will see allows and through it we look to him and so is that I would talk about just as an opening three sobering but to love it if you're going to something like that you want talk about it. Give me a call if you have questions but anything else we talk about all kinds of things on the show from UFOs to the call to evolution through logic to theology Bible verses personal questions and issues so you want to call the numbers 877-207-2276 effect that was Charlie put the verse in verse excellence 413 but we do not want to be informed brothers about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope for. We believe that Jesus died and that's it. We believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. And last night that was there.

Confident hope so.

That's where the peace and the joy can come in. Even though it's not easy, just as I know I will see my son who I lost so many years ago my wife and I will see just as the loved ones last night who lost their father or husband will see him again and we know this because the resurrection of Jesus Christ. See, for those you don't know Christ when he by no Christ stuff know about him, but to know him in a personal we receive.

John one $0.12 for as many as received him, to them he gave the right to be called the children of God we receive Christ we receive that loving sacrifice on the cross so he was. He was sent to the cross is God in flesh, and he could've stopped at any time because just enough of this. What he did was allow himself to be killed to be crucified so that in that place of crucifixion.

Our sin would be given to him, put upon him, and with that said, he would die on the cross sends a committed like lying, stealing, and lost and comforting gossip, hatred, these things were put upon Christ given to his account in the spiritual suffering he went through problems can tell you for sure, but that incredible may be the greater the physical suffering and yet he endured it so that those of us who put our faith and trust in him would have that hope that expectation in his resurrection.

The credit resurrection of Christ is the proof that what Jesus said was true.

He claimed to be God in flesh and give you the verses that he told us to believe in him, trust that he would go and build homes for us in the heaven is resurrected body is the precursor to our in the hope for the resurrection to come. I know that a lot of people out there aren't Christians might be hearing these words, I would urge you to look to Christ, asked Jesus to forgive you of your sins to look to him as the one who died in the cross, when he didn't have to be permitted in the process took that evil from your own heart and actions your own words the rebellion against him and others.

The interview caused the suffering you because the lies, cheats the adulteries of fortifications.

All of these things all of a bore trust in Christ. Trust in him receive what he did in the cross and you will have the same hope that all of us to in the resurrection, the privilege of being with him forever will fulfill orders talk about that. I did tell we had a break coming up here to look at the Michael or Mitchell from Charlotte line afterwards but I want to invite you to call if you want mass Y07 Mitchell so through one call was good to Anthony from Virginia Anthony welcome your near debates about free will and do you think that when it comes to the cause of the libertarian free will, and it did Adam and Eve have libertarian free will, in their original state, it would seem so, since there were not restricted by the depravity of sin. But you see compatible as a means that free will is compatible with the sovereignty of God so they would've had compatible list theoretically compatible us free will, in the sense that all are free will choices were compatible with the sovereign work of God. Libertarianism doesn't like compatible is because in Cusseta compatible is him is also the condition that the sin nature of an individual restricts his ability to freely choose you still free. He's just restricted in his freedom that he can choose the things of God for the food stamp perspectives 212 to my perspective. No, that in your from your perspective libertarian free will is something that man had in his original state before the fall, knowing that you had to see the thing about libertarian free will is its definition, and what it means. And this is like. With careful, because there are there are aspects of electrical energy, but difficult to just say in all places in all situations and all this and all that. So now to do is start with the start with a compatible us free will that this basement that the sovereignty of God and man's freedom to choose. In his freedom of choice is complete, compatible, and that's true that many. So if we see compatible will catalyst will or libertarian free will and when they say that they're trying to get the ID the libertarian free will is not compatible human free will is not compatible with God's absolute sovereignty.

See the proud kind of agree with that Calvinist and reformed theologian argue that were totally depraved end and therefore the folly of loss that I understand that perspective, but how how to people can argue that people have looked at you and have libertarian free will and that God ultimately control it is the creator of the universe, but you give enough in the Amato Deyo the ability to make free will and choice in quickly and that well that's kind of how to deny that what they can't do because only days they are descending its first 30 years know it's not. They don't deny free will week else today I my understanding is that Calvinist adhere to what's called the Westminster confession of faith. Yes, and, in that it does explicitly say that God had foreordained all things that shall come to pass the course. What will come to pass. Of course, don't you believe that I don't see how that's compatible with the notion of libertarian free will exactly will is false. Don't start with human free will and then say God is always a second. Don't start with human centered free will and then restrict God.

That's humanism okay don't don't do that the Westridge confession and I know I know the confession of a Master of Divinity from a Calvinist seminary, but if it is for 30 years or so, tell you Calvinist don't deny free will. They never have. They simply say that an unbeliever's free will is restricted to sinful pure sinfulness and get a not very well though. Yes, it is defined to be would free will lists quit.

Let's see the fine for the enemy free will is the ability to. Between two competing options at a moment in time.

Whatever the document may be Oco got a question for you. Being able to choose between two competing options okay.

Does it mean that to be able to accomplish each one is regular, not just me. It maybe not merely because they are physical limitations and things I wanted a man knows and reason. Okay like they can choose a dealer not to steal, to lie or not to still left outlier, not to lie that's abilities between Bill accomplish them right yet okay hello I thought is your your humanist you're not finally from now let me my how I get a minute I might explain Anthony because does God have free will.

By your definition of free will, yes, to be able to accomplish or not accomplish the ability to line or to be free. Does God have that free will, theoretically, God could live by okay okay not Anthony Anthony Anthony you just committed blasphemy.

The Bible tells us on this one to God cannot lie and you're saying that God can lie with what well sorry you have to understand why God and I Anthony, the Bible says God cannot lie tightest when I do you believe in God hands and lie. He can't lie because he won't lie, no see you are humanist Melnick trying to shock you. You're a humanist who was demoted, God exalted your own understanding. In your own wisdom only ask you, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh you as it is beyond you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. I think their question about that I have is not a Christian.

Okay you you're not a true Christian and I'm just trying to help you out here I'm finding out where your at your not a true Christian. This is why you're saying these things you don't know who God really is and you're welcome. And no I don't and a philosophy that you pretty well. If not, everything is related not Anthony.

It's my show, not yours.

So if I want to ask a question about where you're coming from. I have that right and I'm trying to find out where you're coming from.

I can tell you right now that your full of man's centeredness not God centeredness. You accuse God of the ability of unholiness in his and being able to send any don't even affirm that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. We cannot call you a brother in Christ Jesus says unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins that I am is claiming to be the divine one and you don't even expect knowledge so you will die in my perspective, you can try but you will blame to questionable auto when people believe in liberty growth for God is holy calling. It is the absence from commission of thin God is the idea being Anthony I'm sorry but you don't know what holiness is where you getting all this stuff were you. Are you making it up or just thinking it or what would store simple definition definition of holy being Anthony when I got it not the simple definition where to get philosophy philosophy philosophy and is why call 77077 back to the show. We have real blind if you want 772072276 Anthony are still there yet. So you let philosophy home that you judge truth that one way I do know it's directly.

Well, reason reason I got so I do know your reason is correct well we have to use argument faculty about our best of our ability. We need to file. We know your reasoning is correct. Question observation. The logic empiricism is self refuting. Because empiricism says you gain information to your senses. How do you know your senses are actually representing reality may are faulty, but they can be used to gain a minimal understanding of the reality around minimal understanding of reality can you define what reality is it the universe God created and so you observe the entire universe with your senses know now I'm not an exam on is why reality is that you empiricism not only for you. Anything else you inherently limited. That's pretty much all we have. We have a revelation only. Hell, I do. I do admit that it has a revelation so empiricism is subjective because space in your personal experience is not how you judge actuality truth. So you say revelation was revelation come from revelation comes from God which God the God of the universe.

What was the universe that first person to determine for himself, but will will now women. So if one person says got a universe is Islam is all long… That Yahweh is yummy without a man.

I found everyplace else you said that.

So yeah what you do. I know that I confusingly what I meant is there is one God who reveals himself by okay who is not a person. Well, I believe it be God, spoken of by Christ and the cross of Christ. God, Christ, the dynamic theory of God first. Or I can ask God emissary as it is he, God, that's an interesting that you so you don't know how to gain knowledge's epistemological issue you. Your empiricism is ultimately self if you do so.

Subjective you base your rationalism on it, but you can trust your rationalism because even after being rational, yet you will go to revelation, and any don't trust Christ. What what he says for now. You judged all knowledge and the reality of the universe.

Based on your sensibilities. Like I said earlier, your humanist user self and humanism as the measure instead of all truth is that we can equate we can use logic we can use logic to determine absolute truth so but are our lodges are turning in absolute truth means you have to already believe in absolute truth in order use laws of logic like the law of identity. Something is weird is that is not what it is, not as an absolute truth presupposes actuality in order to use logic. So your circular your foundation is in godlike thing other than your subject. There is a desire, there are certain foundations upon which you have to work like Descartes bad.

I think therefore I am that are certain foundational and when he is at a restaurant.

Someone asked him if he would like some some wines that I think not. He disappeared but look, you would your denying who Jesus Christ is your denying who Christ is not Jesus Christ fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament. Jesus Christ walked on water. Jesus Christ raised him from the dead any rose that himself. Jesus the Christ said, unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins to let me ask you, you believe that Jesus is the I am a very nebulous and hard difficult understand affection of John that opened at any Anthony Jesus claim to be God in flesh. The Bible says he is in the book of John.

In the beginning was the word the word was with God the Word was God. In verse 14 the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

That means is God in flesh. Paul understood this in Colossians 29 when he says in him dwells all the fullness of deity in bodily form. When Jesus says unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins. They were very upset with him then just a few verses later, John 858, he says, before Abraham was, I am they want to kill him. The Jews were to kill him and it only mention of stoning next to his and John 10 John 1030 when he says I'm the father are one. They pick up stones again to kill them. He said many good works, the father of Shawnee for which of these are you stoning me and they said for good work we don't stone you, but you big man make us about to be God. They understood he was God. But you don't agree that he gives you agree with the Pharisees that is not God because he certainly denying that they want to kill him for what he was claiming he was claiming you deny well if you were to die right now I'm mad at you just run for the die right now I don't want that.

Of course you go to hell. You have no hope there that very question of what likely want have to believe when Jesus said you must believe that I am laying it out it Barry connects is authoritatively and actually 14 Moses is talking to God at the burning bush, God and ask God what your name he says I am that I am the Cecil save the sons of Israel.

I am has sent me to you. Jesus is, unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins before brim was, I am Saying this you deny Christ. You deny the true God.

Doug understand I'm not mad about name-calling. I'm informing you so that you can recognize your problem and your dilemma. You need to spell you gossipy and you need to set it down on the floor work belongs to argue with philosophy easily. I do it a lot with people who love philosophy you have to and the ultimate thing is this, you have to assume certain values consistent with your philosophical positions in order to even begin an argument. But then I can ask you to justify those basic assumptions and you can't do it using this the assumptions you have. The only way to ultimately do it is to presuppose a Trinitarian God, which that's a long conversation but it's necessary to necessary actuality you don't have a basis by which you can determine what truth is. We talk about revelation. You deny the very revelation of Jesus Christ and what he says you look for a way to deny you the early church with a Trinitarian doctrine very strongly for centuries before date opined I'm trying to tell you what the Scriptures teach what the Christian churches arrived and understood I call you the references when I call you what it says God cannot lie. You say well maybe can see you deny God's self revelation until you if you were to die right now, you would have no hope you would go to eternal flame, no hope Ironman cabinet believe that is not in Calvinism. It's biblical.

I'm quoting you Scripture I'm quoting you the word of God.

I've referenced it is not just Calvinistic. You don't even understand Calvinism. Obviously you are lost. Look Anthony you're lost and you need to come to Christ, you need to trust in Jesus, you need to ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins, you need to be exposed to his true holiness.

Your wisdom is not good enough, your philosophy, I've talked to hundreds of guys in philosophy who love philosophy and it's just a way of confusing the crud on eBay.

You think you've been using that with them.

In human ethics over to God, we try to use our own mind everything only internally great Oak. The only way to know truth is that the incident God reveals to you. Philosophy is human thinking and human wisdom is the asset that are generally not.

Oh yes it is true philosophy is human wisdom okay for Leo (Sophos Fila wisdom. The love of wisdom which human thought.

I can pick take any philosopher and have a discussion with some of know a lot more than I do certainly cut everybody has to presuppose certain things and I was asking what justifies your presupposition and they can't get without begging the question that will work. What you think of the Delaware is if you all where you find out God's revelation of Beverly Scripture you find it with Asif in the Bible all find it tell you that he places the word of God's creation in the person of Jesus, but for us is recorded in the Scriptures.

You deny the Scriptures you deny Christ.

You deny I think you would include the creation, or that we do include the creation and part of creation is his readers a break you are working hard, more in depth questions desperately needs the revelation of the right mass like why call 77077 back in the show for blind 772072276 is get the clay North Carolina why top of the evening.

Very well will say a big thank you Lord for the person that you are a good job that you did, but that was way too much time spent in that trying to figure trying to explain him how many and I know you're trying to do it right but you know if a baby got up and set his way. Maybe you can only do so but normally you know how all of the regular cold and listening to what you were thinking about suffering and you know I would go to share the acid would you get up and build study this book called they could think of the Bible and in the 23rd chapter that brother Adam had brought you talk about suffering to Bob, probably for the bottle so I would sure about that and some of it you know it, you know, I really think that you sure about that because we all do go to and even in the book of James. It does say consider it pure joy that when you face trials of many, well also share with people about certain things regarding that, you know, you say that you're a follower of Jesus. Think about you know what happened to him through the night that he was captured. You know the day that he was put on the cross all the stuff that happened shared compete up with people you know that we are going to suffer because of what he did crossover crop and any talk about it in Romans chapter 8 it out talk about the suffering but that is not compared our future glory. It doesn't mean that you know God the father called it. He allowed and you know how I like the simple fact it is about what you know run the race with the also look again to talk about cursor Barrett but stuff like that. I think that because it helps me to be able to help others notes yeah I think the thing with Mr. Anthony. You know he really needs to grasp a hold of the overall situation because there there's only one God, the creator of a no kill people got a bit of the book agenda to talk about creation but outside of that, each moment of every day is created differently to be able to talk to people he created you and look what you're doing your your bringing you knowledge your advice and your wisdom all all this program and it's very helpful.

All you you remember the time that you will God know what you know what you know and understand that you have other things that you need to get into which which help thing, because the Lord bless you and that way but you know I'm wondering how how the people realize that and see the thing I remember here is Stanley Salo still so the opening segment is what you're referring to, right, the initial success of the common fierceness of but as far as that guy goes with the philosophy stuff.

The reason I'll take extra time with people like that is I want. Hopefully the listeners to understand the few agility of their position. That's the goal is for them to understand that to be exposed to that kind of thing and you can see from him.

Unfortunately, the reality is that he's a humanist human. It's human thought.

Human knowledge human wisdom that humanism doesn't have a God centered worldview, human centered worldview that he felt everything through. So that's a problem.

There is very common, and exists even inside the church, as well as outside the church because a lot of Christians will judge truth by what they feel what they think cannot submit to the word of God. It's very common to try and work with that break that that trend up inside of the Christian's heart my not that I'm greater it like that but pack stuff so he didn't understand libertarian free will. The mission of Christ was or who God was or the basis of knowledge or philosophy. So it's often the case with people, but nevertheless well amen to that, and I look at it like he had not been done objectively fed certain things could know what needs to be done in regard to getting your life and why or why, what, where God the father made him to be all WDs choices and decisions that are better now that alignment with that, you know it that I really hope and pray that he will come to the no saving no greater that will let you go to the bail program in the long run will you please pray for him.

His name is name and Mitchell. I think it was with I encounter people like him regularly. This is something that is not new to me. People don't know that you not do radio and all rights and stuff like that. But when I often do is spend two hours at a time in discussion rooms probably twice a week.

I'll do that where I'm either off the cuff debating disagreements and removes polite usually and we have these these discussions where we don't agree with each other.

We go through, trying work through issues and problems, and visual philosophies come up a great deal a great deal and so I dealt with it many many times and I like philosophy as long as is used properly. So one of the things I've been doing over the no past year or so is developing an outline on philosophy and it's only 18 pages which is very small but II do spit on by researching the various topics that people bring up aesthetic realism categorical imperative consequentialism constructivism.

There's all kinds of stuff, empiricism, fallible, listen and they will with all due is due might have an objectivist was a nominalist who might also be a naturalist and I have to work through all of those and see not what your degree of this or that because there is degrees of nominalist's are degrees of objectivist what your particular sub routine in this area and I have to analyze a take note, usually to have a page of notes on what someone believes and Venice are tackling what is a think they hold to try to show them that these problems and the challenges are incredible. Sometimes I've had people this they actually will argue that you can't trust the meetings of any of the words were talking and so therefore any discussion about a philosophy and try to refute it is meaningless to get this to say that she had this happen many times you can't argue against the philosophy because you can't know the true meanings of the words and what's the ultimate meaning of this phrase you meant by meant and how do you know that applies to philosophical assumption that they'll do this. So what I say with a rambling yearbook will do what I do. That is also a will thank you for thing that I know I'm actually correct in the we didn't say that we said that you don't understand the basis of how to argue because you can't refute philosophy without the proper definitions I do know that there really true and that is subjective and I say oh no no I know my wife is nice but the nose and she is good cook but what you ask and they think of what we doing sick know I'm not that good looking but thank you for the thought anyway what I'm doing is unsay what if words don't mean exactly what they mean we don't know limited context that I can make up anything they want about what they say because what people will often do is try and confuse the issue so much that they work hard at damning themselves because they're in love and love philosophical jargon ending person flash this what they do in the sky was doing the same thing so Mark I thank you that you are. Here the figures.

Her heartfelt wedding because thank you do. God bless your brother and what you don't man the Lord got you want at that. I don't believe you don't figure out any gumption well I got grace only by God's grace, so he gets all they handed it. That's right okay our brother God bless you and you have more directly to Greg you too. God bless along right folks so we don't have anybody waiting right now you want to give me a call in the last one minute or two minutes. It's fine, 877-207-2276. It's interesting that a restricted sisters did a search on the web. So I see why it's there. That was interesting. Interesting point in my roof that different objects God and apples require different kinds of evidence for detection, yet essential philosophy. You wrote a poem on philosophy trying to find itself philosophy also be simple blog chance at it any rate it was up early on in years and years. A couple decades ago when I first got involved with talking with people who love philosophy and how vacuous how vacuous it ultimately is. And I'm not knocking philosophy is a don't use philosophy at all, but I have actually met Christians who hold to Christian theology.

The truth of the word that actually understand the Trinity and affirm Jesus deity, but they still subject the word of God to their philosophical understandings and they normally get in the issue of free will and God's sovereignty and I've noticed it with. They always do, is subject to Scripture to their philosophical logic. Always when I point this out to them the sable Matt you have to use philosophy to interpret Scripture so you do, so it's a it's a man mind thing.

Or is it by the spirit of God, awakening us and enlightening us. They say will that's a philosophical understanding how you define each one in the always do this, they always want to keep philosophy and their own thinking of logic and with things mean as is the ultimate truth so the people at the have definitions like this like idealism that this is the metaphysical and epistemological document ideas or thoughts, makeup, fundamental reality to talk about that for an hour church like their people wanted the Christians to let that for an hour instrumentalist is the methodological view that concepts and theories are merely useful instruments and their worth is measured by how effectively are explaining and predicting phenomena. There are people tied to sleep barely scratching the surface and they will work themselves into varying subcategories of philosophical ideologies and then judge the world through that lens. When I asked him ultimately what justifies them being in that perspective, the beginning. It all comes down to subjective experience in preference because they cannot ultimately save your position is right. This is the nature of the measure things like is there is the fine line powered by the Truth Network