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We often get the question of what is apologetics apologetic branch of Christian theology concerned with offering eight a defense of the Christian faith were reasoned response to objections and challenges to the Christian faith for the purpose of discipleship strengthening the faith of the believer as well as evangelistic way to reach the lost to be able to answer objections to remove stumbling blocks or clarify points of the gospel so that people can hear and understand what we believe and why we believe it is a common question along with that is what is the biggest apologetics issue facing the Christian church today and number direction directions you can go in answering that question. I think it's difficult difficult to find the criteria to say what one thing is absolute, the biggest, but I think back on a few decades ago when the late Francis Schaeffer was asked what issue he believed would be facing the church in the generation to come. They needed to be preparing for in his answer was status date is normally apologetics conferences. That's not the subject. You hear about and yet I think history has shown that he was onto something that in an increasingly secular society. People look to government to fill the role of God government is good when it fulfills specific role that God is given to punish people to protect good to uphold rights to student to serve justice when we begin to look at the government to do more than that to solve all of life's problems in every facet of our life to silence our opponents to help not merely civil justice for outward crimes, but cosmic justice were asking government to do something it cannot do when we are making the gods of the state so Schaeffer was onto something and yet I think there are even more foundational fundamental things to look at 10 years ago I was asked a similar question early on as an apologist I was asked what I thought would be the biggest issue facing Christian apologists but they weren't really talking about in my impulse back then was the answer identity identity is the I think in an increasingly secular society. When you remove God's design for who we are to define us were left groping in the dark to answer the most fundamental question am I and I saw 10 years ago.

I'm not to put myself out there so it is good at predicting normally terrible, but by God's grace I recognized this that we were going in a direction with that was going to be increasing reporting potential crisis where people would begin to search inside of themselves to invented identity secular worldview simply couldn't give them water on concrete and atheistic naturalistic materialistic worldview. You were just a bunch of chemical reactions near an event. You're not even know you're not a person you're not even an object.

Your event more like a tornado or rainstorm.

A bunch of matter swirling in a certain pattern for a little while and then disperse what you find you are your personal identity and that you can't and so we go about it and what that led to its lead to confusion in matters of gender and sexuality. It's led to be increasingly authorized fiction of racialism where we take this entirely man-made construct that divides humans into races based on arbitrary physical characteristics. Ethnicity is his real culture is real but greatest where if you happen to be below this level of darkness or above this level of whiteness or whatever that you will walk you altogether into one thing and call it a race, man-made fiction, there's no even secular biological backing behind this.

We define our whole lives by it.

While we don't know who we are broken. The Bible about this issue of Ecclesiastes, where the wisest fallen man who ever lived. King Solomon wrestled through many of these dilemmas, he thought, beating good pleasure or in work or in learning and education that all of these things and and where did he find aridity find himself at the end of each of these journeys when you isolated any of these parts of life and try to find meaning. It was the end. What was the result meaningless tasks, meaningless benefits are meaningless, until finally the climax of the book brings you to Ecclesiastes 12 the end it says always been hurt. Here's the end of the matter, fear God and keep his commandments, that this is the whole of man for God will bring into judgment everything, even every hidden thing, whether it be good or evil. We cannot understand who we are, why we live, what our purpose is, who were to be without reference to our designer, our maker, our creator and are judging our moral lawgiver without without the true and living God, and without the context of eternity.

We can't know can be our we live in a culture and needs that answer and so they need the proclamation of the gospel. They need a cold worldview and it's up to us as Christians to bring that that that's portable apologetics is all about you guys think what you think some of the major apologetics issues facing the world today: let me know 877-207-2276, or any other questions about biblical theology about the Christian life that you might have would love to hear from you guys. Speaking of which, let's go to the phones right now to talk to Winfield in North Carolina you're on the air, how the government. I will you doing good doing good with your question? I called and actually we go back the cover struggling with elation.

54 where it says you been severed from Christ. Your to be justified by the law you want great.

I just really. My question is can you fall from grace that you could book great and for my not Calvinistic standpoint, the answer is no, I go to Ocala chart book, like struggling with okay give me just a second, long pole in that chapter up here okay so it was for freedom that Christ set us free. Therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. Behold by Paul say to you that if you receive circumcision. Christ will be of no benefit to you and I testify again to every man who receives circumcision that he is under obligation to keep the whole law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law.

You have fallen from grace, for we through the Spirit by faith are waiting for the hope of righteousness. And so you are keying in on the phrase in their fallen from grace and saying to fallen from grace.

Here mean that you can lose your salvation is that which are about traffic correct okay and I understand that because they could, by itself, the phrase certainly sounds like it could mean that in the context here as we walk through what we just read and in the greater context of Galatians.

I do not believe it, especially when you look at the rest because it's clear that that's not that the New Testament does not teach that God's grace is something that he gives us conditionally and then we have to live up to the standard to keep it that ultimately our works are what keep us in God's grace and effect.

Galatians is all about this problem that people coming in saying that the gospel is Jesus can't Jesus and a ritual Jesus and the work of Jesus and laws Jesus and our effort and so in this case when he uses this phrase of fallen from grace.

It's not because these people have committed the sin and therefore lost their salvation that the people he's accusing are doing is teaching a gospel that says Jesus isn't enough. Put your trust afterward in circumcision and the keeping of the law that he tries to show the error of that since for freedom Christ to set you free. Therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to the yoke of slavery by Paul say if you receive circumcision. Christ will be of no benefit to you now let me any circumcised person cannot be saved by Christ says if you receive circumcision. Christ will be of no benefit to so could you be saved if the court circumflex circumcised person be saved. Yeah so he's using a very strong language you get to that point as soon as we get back from Winfield. I want to help you see the context is important.

Whole body will be right back after the mass Y call 770776. Here's Matt slick Matt slick Wayne filling in for Matt slick this week and will be jumping right back to the cult of the lot lines in just a minute you want to get on you can call Ed 877-207-2276 would love to hear from you all with your questions will be jumping back on Winfield North Carolina.

We were just talking about Galatians 54 and whether when Paul says uses the phrase fallen from grace. He's talking about our salvation. So let's jump back in with with Winfield and talk about this little bit marks. Are you still with Winfield from here.

Excellent, excellent. Okay, so as we see and hear Paul's focus. We were looking at verse three. First four respect to where he says if you receive circumcision.

Christ will be of no benefit and mean literally every circumcised person, but he's referencing back to the false teaching that's been addressed throughout this book, where a group of false teachers were saying that if you add to Christ the requirement of circumcision. You are in fact negating the message of grace be the finished work of Jesus Christ.

If it is Jesus, and that it isn't actually the good news at all as he opens where he talks about preaching another gospel which is no gospel is no good news at all. There's no grace and and so that's the message he's dealing with. If you receive circumcision as a means toward your salvation. Christ is of no benefit to you because you're not actually putting your full trust in his sacrifice and and so he goes on in verse three and I testify again to every man who receives circumcision he's under obligation to keep the whole law, which none of us can do. We all already broken the law and if you take that burden on yourself. In addition to the cross your negating the cross. So then he says you have been severed from Christ. So use your circumcising your flesh or else he circumcised your gospel you work your cutting away if you cut it to the foreskin of your body, you're cutting away the grace from your gospel is using a metaphor here, you who are seeking to be justified by law. You have fallen from grace. What EP does not mean you you are if you were once saved in you. You are have fallen from salvation, but that you have departed from the teaching of grace that you departed from the gospel. Your message isn't good news anymore, which are putting your trust and is no longer the grace of God, you haven't ascended to a higher, more complete teaching like these false teachers or snakes that Jesus part that gets you started, but now let me take you to both us and show you everything else you have to do know you're not ascending to a higher level of knowledge to a higher gospel ascending your calling your your your gospel collapse thinks you fallen from grace to legalism. That message will not save you.

And if that's what you're putting your trust in you you you want say that all) and I ran Christ right. I hundred percent agree with all departments broken with B when on the birth you were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth but to me and I know you are running well, which means that you are doing good and someone came and is now moved you from so someone said you were doing good Elvis from something we could always and now I may be thinking maybe I need to look at circumcised, and that's the way I'm looking I'm looking at a and I'm sure you're familiar with the parable of the soils are the parable of the sower were Jesus taught talks about okay and so in among the descriptions. When Jesus is interpreting that and he talks about the seed that falls on the rocky soil. He says in a similar way, this is reading in and diversion in Mark chapter 4 verse 16. In a similar way, these are the ones on whom seed was sown on rocky places when they hear the word immediately receive it with joy and they have no firm root in themselves, but are only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word. Immediately they fall away and others are the ones whom the seed was sown among thorns. These are the ones who heard the word but the worries of the world, the deceitfulness of riches the desires of others, and thoughts of the people who seed falls and they spring up even with joy outward sign of responding to the gospel and yet behind that there is in fact no root sense in which someone can receive the gospel and be responding outwardly in a right way, joyfully excited about the gospel and then later demonstrate that in fact under it all. They were never rooted in the gospel concert will eat when we look at the rest of the New Testament we have to treat it as regarding this idea of a false faith that Jesus talked about his own parable does exist.

There are people who receive the gospel, even excitedly, enthusiastically, and seem to spring up quickly when in fact they're not rooted in the gospel and those people who never bear fruit are not people who were ever saved in Jesus own explanation of it and the good soil.

They are the ones who hear the word and accept it, and therefore that the ones who genuinely actually accepted the ones who bear fruit that are good soil and so we when we look at look at the categories that Jesus gives us and we read Paul's letters. That way we can understand the kind of people he's talking about who responded early on to the gospel but are now showing signs of not rooted in the gospel and Paul was challenging about genuinely test only concern for these people. I don't want you to be rocky soil want you to be the good soil and what you did not just delete look like for a while I want you to be right with God through Jesus Christ.

But that means being rooted in the gospel of grace, not just doing the right things but having the right faith underneath that, and that's part of the grievance concerned sounded very emotional terms throughout the book of Galatians.

It's a powerful book, when we read it and in the whole context and that way does that make sense yet you go to John John where know that you that you can't lose any maybe just stick there might place I go again.

Gently we read Scripture in light of Scripture and so I would understand what Paul doesn't disagree with Jesus we see what Jesus says about such things. We I would I would start there and read read read: not like I went to. As you wrestle things to call back again and you know we'd love to talk more. The weekend all right you have a wonderful day. Thank you for calling. All right, that was Winfield in North Carolina and will be back to take more calls after this break, you can already get in line at 877-207-2276 will be back after the short break mass Y call 770776. Welcome back Wayne yet again for that flick for one more day that will be a corpulent back with us on Monday and you guys can get on the show and talk: at 877-207-2276.

All right, now we are going back to the phones go talk to Anthony in Richmond. Anthony you hear me I can't dilute by beginning of the show, you said something that was really related to Christianity I thought would definitely wrong and we we should be committed to truth even when it raced to the a social construct and that there really isn't any such biological scientific basis for rate that what your belief is that there is no biblical nor scientific basis for the modern conception of dividing all ethnicities, cultures and people into a tiny number of four or five races by arbitrary physical characteristics. Yes, but it that that would be well. I do, I do want to say I think that that's not true it for anything.

I do believe all people have inherent dignity and should be treated equally. But there's no is not immoral or incorrect to say that there are racial groups and that it has a firm scientific genetic basis and there are firm scientific evidence is that that demonstrate that and many many different areas of biology. The reality of different reasons. Not that makes anyone you know Lester, or more than another race. It's just the thing that there really are different races and can be demonstrated scientifically, I don't think Christian church. I know that there the allergy to that type of because we all knew. I constantly hear the refrain. You know it. There's only one race but also there are different races and there's nothing wrong with believing that especially firmly rooted in actual biological science will the thing is, we're again biblically the thought the distinctions between peoples there. There are nations, tribes and tongues.

Language groups certainly and when it comes to race to say all people because they have certain darkness of their skin or a certain shape to their eyes or things like that should all be lumped together as one type of people there's absolutely no biblical basis for that. And on top of their if you look at if you look at statements by the American enter part anthropological Association, the American Association of physical anthropologists the American the linguistic Society of America all sorts of different disciplines of human study will all make statements like quote race is widely viewed by scholars in numerous disciplines is a social construct rather than a biological fact, racial identity, ideologies and practices are explicitly expressed locally and very widely with models of grace differing throughout history and across the globe." But there's no actual natural basis sorts of different cultures invent their own concepts of recent divide people. Accordingly, and is registered as a secular scientific group say about the concept even just from a biological standpoint that a Tanzanian and Irish men are genetically more similar to each other than a Tanzanian and African take.

So if you to genetically divide people into race that a black Tanzanian in a pale Irishman would be the same race as opposed to a picnic, but nobody divides it that way, nor should they become.

Race is is a cultural fiction and in the reality all men are made in the image of God. All man are fallen in Adam and all man Ortega stand equally before God in need of the gospel and I know you agreed with with all of those things and that's the view of man. Really the only two groups that the New Testament would lead me to regard.

There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free that what I'm to look at it. There is your band and the Duke learned that those who are redeemed in Christ who are my brothers in him and/or those in need of the gospel outside of Christ who are in Adam Gore and the old man to whom I bestowed my compassion and my proclamation of the gospel because they too were made in the image of God and deserve that dignity but the idea that I should divide people based on arbitrarily selected physical characteristics that change divisions over time, even within my own lifetime when I'm in the earlier decades when I first learned about the cultural concept of race people from the near East, or even as far east as India were not in the same race as people in the far east of Asian race was considered the people of the far east now Asian and couple encompasses anyone from the continent of Asia. Why because we can move the boundaries around because they don't actually correspond to anything in in in nature.

Anything that genuinely exist.

It is a fictional cut and so we should not and that therefore there is absolutely no grounds for judging any person or treating any person differently based on a fiction like this, and so on. We should view people with Usher actually well personal. Yes I do absolutely agree. All human beings are made in the image of God as a special creation. We did not evolve on any lower formula created specially by that being said, when you talk about the group you have to realize there's this concept of what got woken up in academia where there there also trying to just you know destroy the concept of biological biological male and female so people really can't be trusted at all their different story. The man man and what the treatments that I'm referencing here predate moderate witness of this the stand that there's absolutely no biological basis for the concept of race is many many decades old and has been the persistent view of the heart, biological and cultural sciences. Only recently have people been been standing up to challenge it because the idea that race isn't real goes against what workers want a real venue accountable for something that their rate it will total evidences and then I'll leave that car companies that will test your DNA and tell you what your racial subgroup is and there are medical variations between racial subgroups on racial subgroups are much more likely to contract or experience certain type of ailment known racial subgroups, and there is not so much the superficial color that basically there are significant even though there are significant rooted in genetic there are genetic differences between the races and even the different literary minor that a distortion that comes from the fact that the genome is very large and has countless you note base pairs. And if you look at that there is rated as only a very small percentage of the genome, but the difference is due to exist in the create be the right name, various racial subgroups, and that one racial group is better or worse than the other in any way.

It just means that there are racial subgroups, and it is rooted in science night. I kinda want to dispute what you said earlier I don't think it's immoral or accurate or wrong to prefer Christian to accept the notion of of of a biological basis and in actual different races so you I didn't actually say that it was immoral to believe in the concept of race. Well I do again hold that you use when you talk about biological differences, you begin to conflate the concept of ethnicity with rates which are actually two distinct things and so that the that what I say was that when people try to when they people abandon God and try to find their identity and other things and therefore begin to derive an entire identity out of grace by saying will because I have the superficial physical similarities to these people are not those people and therefore I my loyalties are here and I have to be this kind of person and behave in this way and do these things for those people have to be that way when we start to wrap up identity and race we run into two serious problems. That was a statement that I made might my primary focus was on the issue of identity, and it happens that in light what you refer to as local culture. We define things as within race and then try to derive identities about that's where we run into very serious problems, fan okay well I hope that was helpful and further explained in that area and we will get on to our next caller after this. You guys can call there is an open line: at 877207227 max Y call 770776 here's Matt's life. Welcome back Wayne filling in for Matt Flick for one last day for Lord willing he'll be back with us on Monday and so we do have an open line would love to hear from you guys: at 877-207-2276. But let's get right back to the phone to be talking to Mark and Connecticut Mark you are on the air. Hello, greetings our family housing: a great job thank you I appreciate that what your question my question is how probate about also about the flaming sword, keeping them from coming back into the guard where they say are not what the Bible okay I'm sorry what about I let okay okay will thank you very much, Mark, and I wish I could give you a more definite answer, but the simple simple fact is, to my knowledge the Scriptures never plainly answer the question as to whether Adam Ortiz repented and turned to God in faith or not. And so my hope is certainly that they did ultimately believe God. I do not know Adam is used in the New Testament. In contrast to the court to Christ is that if you are in Adam you are still in your sin and by going towards destruction. If you are in Christ, you are redeemed, so perhaps through that you could extrapolate that he is still unregenerate is unstated but I think that's being reading more into it than what is plainly said the fact of the matter is I do not know and I don't know that any of us can know this side of eternity whether Adam and Eve are believed out of any belief because to my knowledge the Scriptures don't tell us that so wish I could be more helpful. Hope that answers your question. Going to Michelle in Texas now Michelle you are on the air. Hello Michelle how are you doing I'm doing great job. Thank you, thank you and are green and chapter 14 verse two and eight not demand that God or no one understand that he entered history and I was delivered out of a false church about a year ago and there was a lot Scriptures that were twisted and really struggling with that. Okay.

Thank you Michelle alright so Michelle was asking about first computes 14 and the statement that the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God conference, for no one understands and I think that's that important thing to recognize that the rest of this chapter. He's going to be rebuking people who are speaking in tongues or it's the normal Greek word for normal Greek way of referring to language it so you could translate this on some translations have rendered it. Speaking in languages speaking in tongues are speaking in languages and so someone who speaks in the language supernaturally from the spirit. Obviously this is talking about a gift of the Spirit phone and supernaturally speak the language does not speak to men but to God. Does this mean that the gift of tongues is a supernatural gift of speaking, a nonhuman unknown language that only God understands and I don't think so. There are multiple views on this. I'm going to explain to you were at work. I land. There are Christian solid Christians who would disagree with me on this interpretation of this passage, but I'm going to going to speak where where I land on this passage and that would be that the gift of tongues is a supernatural gift that we see exhibited in places like acts chapter 2 where people speak in other languages real spoken languages they themselves have never learned by the power of the spirit. They speak these languages and later in this chapter will go on to say that the one who that the one who speaks in the gift of tongues is a sign to the unbeliever, whereas the gift of prophecy is assigned to the believer and those that would seem to be a parallel between the way in which those are science and so in the same way that the gift of prophecy is a is a positive, edifying, exhorting assigned to the believer as we see in verse three it would seem that the gift of tongues is intended to be exercised in that positive way toward unbelievers that it is an evangelistic gift as we see it used on in acts two and all says in this chapter I five more than any of you which I spoke in tongues why the apostle to the Gentiles traveling around the missionary, but that gift would be extraordinarily speak in size of my more.

I'm grateful that I speak more than any of the why because it is of more use to his mission, whereas this chapter and 14 is talking about its use in the church in the midst of Christian worship when people of the same language are gathered together to be edified to receive the word of God and instead someone gets up and edifies only themselves by putting on a show preaching in another tongue, but nobody understands speaking the language in which only makes them look good. He will call spiritual.

I am and does nothing for the church and so he says the one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God or no one understands him later on in verse nine he says.

So unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear how you don't spoken.

You will be speaking to the air so he also refers to this in the language of speaking to the air your dispute you're talking to the when you're talking to, but you're not talking the church is standing in here you're prettier standing up what you're talking the church but you're not talking, and so he uses all these different languages to all these different terminologies different metaphors to help us understand how useless and in fact counterproductive.

Exercising the gift of languages is when you in the local church gathering, and therefore, if no one's interpreting if no one's explaining what's being said and don't get up and exercise that gift you were you were abusing it. You're not using it the way it was intended. So anyway, I show just preaching a sermon on first Corinthians 14 that hopefully those highlights would at least show you why I think the way I think and I hope that is helpful to you as you continue your study on that, but again that's my view, there are solid Christian brothers would disagree with me and interpret this another way, I'm not. I would not define the Doxy by where someone lands on the gift of languages so hopefully that was helpful to you. Let's go on to Laura in Utah. Laura you are on the air telling you get me question that mail and you want to go out on the radio.

Maybe that will buy me a they want to know it all, Israel is they like Roman 11 board now 1126 and they are tweaking it to you so you know we got Israel being made, and all you be saved and I will let you go to town.

Okay so just to clarify what you're wanting to know what it says in Romans 11 all Israel will be saved and to what extent that's talking about all Israel. I have my my thing I want year year where you're knowledgeable to go out, not mine. Okay okay and remind me which verse 10 in Chapter 11 is not fine and that real quick. 11 2026 Jericho do not want you brethren to be uninformed of this mystery, so that you will be so that you will start at 25 getting a little context so that you will not be wise in your own estimation that a partial or a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come, and so all Israel will be saved. Just as it is written so we Israel that is partially is also the Israel that will be saved. So when we put it in context to get what's walked back a little. Beginning at verse 17 but if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild branch know the branches of what the all of the olive tree of God's covenant people. Some of the branches were broken off so that you Gentiles can be drafted in and become a partaker in that rich fruit. Do not be arrogant towards the branches of but if you are arrogant, remember that you that it is not you who are crew supports the root with the roots sports you you will say then branches who were broken off that branches were broken off that I might be grafted in quite right. They were broken off from their unbelief, but you stand by your face.

Do not be completed but sheer and it goes on discussing the idea of the breaking off and the grafting of the welter of the olive tree and so it would seem that when we get to there was a partial hardening of Israel for the Gentiles to come in and that relates to the idea that branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in that the partial hardening of Israel is the literal ethnic people of Israel and the brevet that there was a partial hardening of Israel so that the Gentiles could be brought in the van talks about God's ultimate intention is to provoke Israel to jealousy through that to bring them back in. So I do think this is pointing to an idea that there will be before the end a widespread evangelistic success among the among the people of ethnic Israel and a great salvation among them and this is a common belief among among the Puritans. Spurgeon many throughout, so I'm not standing alone here and report tradition in doing it this way that there will be before the end a great harvest among the people of ethnic Israel. That doesn't mean all Israel of every generation will be saved regardless of their faith in Christ is made clear throughout this offer because of unbelief to our Savior because of belief but I believe it will come be a regeneration of salvation through faith in Christ among the people of Israel for the time we have and thank you for tuning in you Monday. Another program powered by the Truth Network