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Now some of you may already be aware, have written a great deal on annihilation is an dumb reason I've written on annihilation is is because it's rearing its ugly head. Now there are young spokesman went talk about it right now there are aspects of annihilation is an exact or within orthodoxy and then there's aspects of annihilation is that her damnable heresies and written some articles and one of them is 50 questions for annihilation is so conditional lists to answer and I decided that I won't debate anybody on this topic, I must answer all the questions because all know we are coming from because unfortunately it's a lot of people who don't answer questions very specifically and so if you want to see that article 150 questions you go to the Karma website. What prompted this was made a couple of well new friends here in a debate with some annihilation is what you want to about three weeks ago and the Chris date and Glenn Peoples worked today and after show about a week after the debate, and I went to the after show that I watch the entire debate I did the after show and normally I would really be boring about stuff like this because I got so much to do but anything that risks salvation any teaching that void salvation either by teaching a false God or a false Christ or a false gospel any group that does that any teaching that does that lie must tackle inside of physicalism are different doctrines of different positions to be held and one of them is called physicalism, which is self refuting, but that's another topic, but but physicalism says that the human person of the human part ceases to exist upon death.

If that's the case, that would invalidate the hypostatic union which is the teaching that the that that person, the person crisis in the person of Christ has two distinct natures of divine nature and human nature.

This is biblical orthodoxy.

This is basic Christian doctrine. The hypostatic union.

Well, if the human nature, dies at death the hypostatic union is is violated and Jesus is no longer Jesus because Jesus by definition, has those two natures, and for those natures dies, then the hypostatic union is invalidated if that's invalidated, then there is no resurrection of the person is a re-creation and continuity issue and that means that the sacrifice of Christ is invalid and this risks of the old Israel salvation so I had to tackle this and wrote an article analyzing naming names and things like that and that if if people do hold to that of Mattel you if you're annihilation us and you hold the view that Jesus human nature ceased to exist, then your teaching heresy. Damnable heresy and is not to say you're not a Christian, but if you don't repent of it. If you understand what the issues are and you don't repent of it then I can't call you brother or sister in Christ is that series an issue so because this is raised its head produced two more articles on project attached to articles so that totals the number of articles are written annihilation as of 282 182 yes, I did a lot of research on it and actually because of this, is these questions that so I've written. I think I want to do is also right to search questions for each major topic like Catholicism, atheism, Islam, and things like that and I'll put them up on the respective sections of Corinth and then just say hey look if anybody wants to debate me you got answer all these questions and the reason is is real simple method to trap anybody. I just want multi-teach about particular issues and I know how to write questions that with certain phraseology in order to get precise answers out in order to know what someone actually believes and is willing to do so. Although working on those for me that's exciting, why couldn't I guess what I did and explained about these 50 questions. I do logically with physicalism and the hypostatic union that you got to enjoy my thumb and of the nature of the Trinity and all the stuff for Michael yeah that's a good time and she looked to visit. I'm glad you like doing that. See she likes the one that I cannot fathom how anybody could like this. She likes to sit for the computer and get the orders and donations and variously the command that you put them into all the good the places that she can put into all the data in all this and that for move from here over there and to me know.

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If you want to even call 877-207-2276. Let's get to Steve from North Carolina, Steve, welcome your on the air barrier Mark okay. Hang in there hanging in there though quick background. I was brought up Catholic and I will. I joined her Christ that would America about four years when I was in my 20 and I lack hurt completely. After that for a long time back now to about Dr. but I think starting a lot, Bob. All that thing the Christ anything now it's still coming in my head when I read the Bible like I read about baptism by been doing a lot of studying.

What do you consider the best number to combat that birth to combat baptismal regeneration will go to is as simple as Romans 51 which says I'll read it to you because one that you get. I do it perfectly exactly in the SB Romans 51 says. Therefore, having been justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. So I asked them, can you read Romans 51 therefore, having been justified by faith and ask him what his justification will major same to be direct forgot to good and this is by faith you agree that the text says, having been justified by faith will say yes then asked the question, then, if the Bible says were justified by faith than are we justified by faith. When we have faith if they say yes, why relate them to say the clinical had I not I know them.

I was one of them at that in a day. They got great wealth.

Great part Dr. Hart okay and saved in the Scripture says, having been justified by faith. Sorry, just not by faith we have faith you asked the same question again and Mattel was not happy for you. Click on week one that Burkert quickly and greatly saying that over to get you know do it over and over again.

You say this I tell people to do this before and I recommend you do this, Romans 51 says having been justified by faith in you agreed that were justified by faith. So for justified by faith.

Are we justified by faith we have faith as Romans 51 says I'm doing is saying it over and over and over again. Romans 51 having been justified by faith. Over and over again so that they can memorize it, and what you'll find is a lot of times people in wacko cult religious groups like that group Argosy. Well, you know, faith is manifested when you get baptized sibling ask another question. Are we justified by faith. When we have faith, I just you to go into that. I just asking the same question and I'll even ask essence about why won't you answer my question. I am answer your question, no, let me let me and I'll send them back about this. Do you believe that statements are either true or false, you know to post was forced either true or false. Right now we are justified by faith we have faith. True or false about my one true or false what they say.

Falsely, they deny the Scriptures of this a true that they did neither.

Baptismal regeneration. This is why you just like a harp on this. Every single way different ways go over. Don't fall for the red herring. When you see baptismal rear deck 238 for 33 2122 safeguarding of a good rock to goodie a persecutor what you do as you say, look, say, look, I can address those later than asking a specific question right now. The Bible says, Romans 51 having been justified by faith you've already agreed that the Bible says were justified by faith now and that if they buy chance sake, what kind of faith is real faith. True faith falls faith in whatever Philippians 129 good memories. These addresses together for to you it is been granted for Christ's sake not only to believe in him, but also to suffer first sake. So God grants that you believe Saul if they say what kind of faith the state. The kind of faith that God grants you will. Philippians 129 129 yelp the Romans out of your car up big what you call another Calvin I will if it's Calvinist, then that's the penalty is at my finger on the right thing on, once because I read the Scriptures you don't says life is like myopic product back on track get back on track is that's exactly what happiness is so Romans 51 having been justified by faith. Okay, having been justified by faith. It's important that we focus on that.

Okay, it's really important. By faith, and I ask… Bring your best day there until they don't want to talk you anymore to hate your thoughts and if you move that estate if you live there okay but no memorize on red buddy, not all bull delivery: they voted right back after these messages. One line give me a call 772072277 mass Y call 770727. Here is Matt's leg all right with get back on here with Steve still there but your point here okay and ran out of time there so that answer your question sufficiently articulate your medical. The only other thing would be direct act of 2013 with them. Okay used to context unit acts 2216 and left context is everything. The why did the legate be baptized wash where, since calling on his name. What washes away your sense water or calling him the name of Jesus. Just asking the question that you say will baptize guys to be immersed in as a good essay and say if that's the case then why was Jesus sprinkled at his baptism and the innocent he was not.

He was immersed then you should go to Carmen you'll look up the article, why would Jesus bad either. I 50 was TigerDirect that article was court. He was a baptize according to law and the law required sprinkling. That's what the Old Testament required to law, but in that in that article today that not definitive right you just think about what was the reason is intuitively right. When Jesus said it's green a baptize was to fulfill all righteousness. Matthew 315 we notice it in the context they got the father speaks and blesses Jesus that the Holy Spirit comes out upon Jesus.

Jesus was 30 years old and yet have an individual water so those things are found in the Old Testament as requirements for man to enter into the priesthood and Jesus is the high priest at the notable Keswick Hebrews 5 2640 so since he is a high priest when the entering of the pre-data followed a rule it a follows Old Testament rules and so it's pretty strong case that that that that he was doing what was required. A court of the Old Testament law in order to fulfill the law that was says didn't come to abolish law but to fulfill it. And so he fulfilled that Scripture, because ultimately all priesthood erotic may not of Veronica Mull, Keswick medical is all about it ultimately. But Jesus Christ, so he is a true high priest, and he had to become a high priest according to law, which is why he had to wait till he was 30 years old. The cadets of the law required and then requires wrinkling every car sprinkling and that's a thing and you go to Hebrews 910 works is titled washings and the Greek word there was Bob T's boss and the washings Bob T's must baptism by piece must write and yet merely the context is not sprinkling's. It is, and what it doesn't forgive Hilda a heads up here. I think you could ask one W. John baptized with water, but get a baptize of the Holy Spirit baptism of the Holy Spirit is pouring because that's how the Holy Spirit is is said to be baptized person or not you got from Joel 232 I think is 32 to 23. I can never and that the always prophesied of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is by the pouring that's that's what it means in the context of the Holy Spirit of baptism in the Old Testament, and so they because it says so should find it really fast work of for I will pour forth my spirit all mankind that's acts 217 forces, but is courting Joel 228, which was a prophecy will pour forth the Spirit on all mankind sold in any says in verse 18.

I will on those days pour forth my spirit, and they shall prophesy.

Will if you go back to that and asked to 17 and 18 will discuss in it says in acts 15 that you would baptize to the Holy Spirit. It means most report out upon you right so was right after Sumner still is is John baptized with water. He immersed with water, but you have the Holy Spirit poured out upon you. Both of her baptize site does it make more sense to say that John the Baptist poured water because they could not live.

Your bike there only thing that got word in the Greek meaning immersed. It doesn't tell you is greater doesn't enact his shoulder from Scripture. Plus I've done this a long time that cause but let me let me run this by really fast so I've been to the Jordan River over Israel and I would not want to stand in it for very long because it was cold like extended for up to have Karen be shivering. Maybe an hour, you don't get me out to be spinning somewhat warm to drink a note things like that. It was difficult now, let's just picture a person who weighs 100 pounds and John the Baptist is sitting out in the Jordan River.

How deep is he on the river. Let's say he's up to his hips so that he can BAP immersed somebody so someone comes out in the water and weighs 100 pounds and that's including the clothing gypsum underneath the water and he lifts him up let's anyway hundred and two counts because of 2 pounds water okay. The disclosure satirized. Let's say or maybe 1 pound is matter, but is going to come up waiting a little more now.

He baptized you because over and over and like 3000 her baptize in one night it one time an action to 3000 people now does not say how many people were doing the Baptists, but what I did was just to illustrate I did salute the math analysis.

Let's say they're baptizing for eight hours straight. The 12 disciples and a baptize 3000 people in 12 and eight hours standing in water for eight hours in cold water for eight hours up to their hips. Hypothermia's gonna be a problem and if there'd got ducking down in the Waterloo think about is good to be this heavy. I baptize people in the river your Boise Idaho and I'm telling you on the way up.

It's hard because you get a lift about getting a lot actually here in it and it's just left I had to actually get might have a slightly weak back as a foreign birth defects with my Lord vertebra is like if you noticed you and I'm okay I just muscled myself down and got a certain position with them on the problem, but I could not end up doing that in for 1/2 hours or 20 minutes my back when she's up that's me know what healthy person with a healthy healthy back could probably do it for 23 hours, maybe they didn't get high dynamic conditions. How long are they gonna do it.

Okay, so they don't date that they don't like that for the stay up to their knees linear guide without even further to lift them up. So if I 12 disciples were baptizing for eight hours.

That's an average of like two minutes and 20 seconds per baptism when you do the ceremony say the words I got her etc. and then dip down so you don't know how strong you are mean whatever but could you could you lift a person or to lower someone little water and then stand up and up with them and do that for eight hours every two minutes and 20 seconds for analyte melt. But it got him but I don't need luck yes truth try to show you that people just basic as best as they comply relied on, and so it makes more sense that with how it was done in the Old Testament is that they would use this up branches to pick this up branches in the water and sprinkle the people. That's how it was done in the Old Testament and hyssop grew on the banks of the of the Jordan ureter. I'm not. I agree with the market agreement. The Hartman got mad are not on like being a Catholic got a big sprinkle of Presbyterian sprinkle baby as meaner save it is just as you had rather get is given information to multiple where my really think too much. But right not appreciated that you already voted right back after these messages to open lines 877207276 max Y call 770727 charismatic 40 abutting my Christian in relation to the corrective.

I think it 42 or 40 people, both about the second item on the last item. Write the last item in verse 25 are still out of the audit that compared to what Christ, but for the Bible going to guide them, spend it on and told him that you going to leave behind to give them comfort that the both of those items with spam all and if it's not helping out the front of it.

The doctrine of federal headship is what this is talking about federal headship is the teaching that the male represents the descendents that the female I looked on article on Carmen on this cold federal headship.

I recommend you read it what it is is in Adam all die first 2015 $0.22 and also says in Christ all made alive and that's the first on the second dollar Limited second one. And so what this talk about is the first Adam became a living soul.

That's Adam. The last item is Jesus life-giving spirit. We talk about here is the nature of the resurrection when it says is life-giving spirit doesn't mean he didn't have a body of flesh and bones because he did. Jesus prophesied his own physical resurrection and John 219 to 21. So what's going on here is not Adam. Is this the last item is not the Holy Spirit is the person of Christ. Okay good book right the personal Christ is referenced as the last Adam.

On the second of the last Adam, because the first Adam was sinless he fell.

The last Adam was not sinless.

He did not believe it was also some of the legislators so the last Adam was sinless and did not fall. The first Adam represented all people. The last data represented his own people next. Romans 518 first graders, 15, 22, and this many, many, many times over the years, so this was going on here.

The Holy Spirit is another helper of the comforter out of John 1426 John 1526 but that he is not the last Adam, because the last Adam, here is theological but resurrection. The first Adam and that means is about Adam as in Adam and Eve. Okay okay okay I okay and also it was 5 foot 14 thanks Charlie for putting that in there and read that Romans 514 says this nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those would not send in the likeness of the offense of Adam was a type of him who was to come so that helps further demonstrate that it's the last last item is Jesus is the first Adam is a type of him was to come to the last out of her, etc. related there. Romans 514. Right.

Okay. I remember okay. God bless you Charlie and the Eurotech throughput diversion for me. Thanks much I appreciate let's get to get a Jew journey from Wyoming Lodge is looking at Wyoming map stuff last night about that.

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Like Derek and about two years ago that a bit like trying to figure out what trait that elephant thing ever for much. However, there are going to let a better how to get over that anything fairly well.

They were helping you layout that's meant that last two sweet questions again with it what we can in the time allotted. The most important thing we both feel and if it okay to pray, dictate yes.

John 1414. Ask me anything in my name and I will do it. That's what Jesus says also in acts 755 through 60.

Stephen is being stoned to death is a vision of the glory of God the speed of the father and Jesus standing at the right hand and he addresses Jesus okay there's a phrase in the Old Testament to call upon the name of Yahweh writers in Zechariah 1313, nine, and on first and Psalms 116 for it is a phrase to call upon the name of Yahweh. It it means the phrase not just each one word, but the whole phrase of the other combination call upon the name of Yahweh. That phrase means to prayer to offer prayer to worship and adoration to Yahweh while the seventh urgent in the Septuagint was is okay so for those you don't know Septuagint since it was the Jews about 200 BC translated the Old Testament Hebrew into the New Testament into Greek and the Greek about 222 BC they took that phrase call upon the name of Yahweh. They translated it into the phrase call upon the name of the Lord. Right call on the name of the Lord. I think they said that phrase met in Greek in first Corinthians 1 verse two it says to the church which is at Corinth, to those who been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling with all who to replace call upon the name of the Lord Jesus, I now frequented 12 so that phrase which is used only of good of Yahweh and in the Greek equivalent call it means call upon the name of the Lord is applied to Jesus and frequented 12 okay the next question okay like to note throughout back now that limits the great fact that Trinity as the light from the trail rapid patient what most Christians understand it to be the Trinity that night, but I still not understanding the role looking for guidance Trinity that the best analogy I know of his time now before give it to you.

God says he makes himself known in his creation, so he knows that this is Romans 120, so we can see the fingerprints of God inner critic in the creation he's given so time is past, present and future.

So this one thing called time has three out only use these words aspects okay just for now has three aspects the past the present in the future, but the past is not the exact same thing as the future, nor are they the exact same thing as a present.

They're different but they're all by nature time we would not sitters three times. There's only one thing called time and it manifests to us in three things that the pastor present. The future now for us.

Unfortunately, this is the consecutive kind of a thing, and it shows that it it leans towards Modell's that's a disadvantage of that analogy unless you get into quantum physics have been reading a lot about and it's doesn't seem to be the case and that level but will get all that. So this the idea that three thing one thing could have three can stick constituent parts.

Nothing when you say part is not the best word but it's like saying that the Trinity is one God in three distinct simultaneous persons of father-son Holy Spirit. Each is by nature God, just as past present future. Each is by nature time with or separate from its or their distinct yet they are also the same time.

Time is of the father-son Holy Spirit blockage in something here. The father-son Holy Spirit are three aspects of that and how much you want to get into this with you but you try something okay this makes sense to have a breaker to satisfy me, but will see if God is only one person, then how does he manifest personhood. Personhood necessitates the awareness of others self-awareness Fellowship, intimacy, love, reciprocity with people is a Jehovah's Witness teacher, God's only one person than from eternity before he created. How is it that he exhibited his puts the fullness of personhood. He could not there'll be no fellowship there be no exchange of love there be nothing. How is that how is it possible okay it doesn't make any sense, but I'll skip ahead in the Trinity.

However, the father the son can love each other and the meatiest the mediation of that love is by the Holy Spirit I get into this technicality of it and you could have each one of me, the mediator between the other two, because love itself is concept. Love doesn't have the self-awareness love this walk around and make decisions. It's having exchanged well. If God is part of him is love is love impersonal doesn't have self-awareness, or the person goes from God, the Trinity makes sense. These it is that personal is one person can mediate the that love between you is perfect with brake so please hold on the brick. Okay, we have three open lines of what you call 877-207-2277 Matt Y.

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Where are you in in Wyoming, was born in Cheyenne, so I was just where not okay so did that stuff on the Trinity help you at all. That analogy time live really think that with good will during the break I decided to write an article called, why is God Trinity and got notes about this and I think I've got enough of it figured out that I can put it down so that hopefully people can read it and figure out why. If God was a single person. It would not make sense if these are if these two persons there's a problem with the nature of in person of what's impersonal as a fundamental aspect of his nature.

That's a problem why the Trinitarian view is the most logical, necessary and simplistic view the minimalistic of what God is an organism. He called her Teresa's and divine simplicity and momentum all understandable, and that all right, so what else you got for Atlanta. All right, so if you were to you are with me and you watched me walk up to some random stranger in a store and I just slapped the person you might get what was that fork in the persons is what you do that for the person could either ask you the question rocketing a strike back apnea rights and or I just take off and we get away. But what if I did it to that person who's occupying that office called the presidency what I did that will then I got so I gets a federal offense by/just the average Joe then you know nothing really happens.

If I slap the president states.

I go to jail. Federal offense. Why does the exact same action get a different result is because of who has every right to goods who what is new often occupies that, let's move up the chain of authority to God who is infinite by nature. So if we break his law. We have infinitely affected. We because an infinite offense in the sense that we offended the infinite God.

How then are we going to undo that offense and the way to do it is only through Jesus because Jesus is God in flesh second verse of the Trinity has two natures human nature and God, nature and the one and so because he's infinite value when he died. It's an infinite sacrifice so therefore we just trust what he did. So what about those who don't trust and what he's done that.

It makes logical sense to say that their punishment must be forever because of who they've offended God is infinite, so forever is infinite, so that's what they get enough they will be to be annihilated. Then the not being punished, and punishment in the Bible is experienced. I've done a lot of research on this a great deal on it.

This is how it is in the Bible is experienced people so I don't like the idea of health. Okay, you don't have to but is what Jesus taught and that we know that Satan and his angels going to hell forever and says no good flesh.

1411 2010 and the beast of all profit will resort in the lake of fire that burns forever and ever slow. Their torment ascends forever and ever. That means they are tormented forever and ever and is a verse that's really interesting it's in Jude 17 and it says this in Jude 1. I've not once submitted, Jude 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them. Since these in the same way, or as these indulged in gross immorality went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire. Now I'll give a sense once could only confuse you but an example in undergoing is a participle ING word is a present participle in the Greek when a present participle existed takes its tense from the previous verdict. The previous verb is in the present tense what it's saying is there presently undergoing punishment of eternal fire. I okay so these are the people she read the thing is if if people are annihilated and if they know they've done something bad and then let's say you know a person deserves 10 years of hell fire. Let's say and that is annihilated as some people teach will then that would mean that the punishment he receives for 10 years of fire. Whatever it is, would be in a manner consistent with how much sin he committed sin is breaking the law of God. Therefore the punishment is according the law so therefore after 10 years of of punishment and its he's done with the punishment. What is the go to heaven because he scooped these accomplish with the law requires wisely that annihilated which is an additional judgment. This is why that that problem is there's a big problem to logic problem on their part is how I want and how it all I know teaches nonexistence. Freud right your civil rights so then what happens is here's a problem getting another color would get you after this is a problem. So just imagine this from left to right on the piece of paper you have in number one, two, three, four, five, number one is nonexistence number two is a person exists number three is nonexistence a person dies number four is the persons resurrected to be judged to be annihilated and number five this is it not elation or nonexistence.

Okay so number five is punishment look at number one, which is nonexistence number one, which is nonexistence number five which are nonexistence are exactly identical nonexistence. How, then, is number five punishment, but everyone is not if her exactly identical amounts. And so that these are just issues that they don't think of and they don't really deal with. And then there's issue of soul sleep problems with that as well.

And again, more complex things about the nature of Christ's atoning work where annihilation is in human nature in Christ and all the stuff and it's if I could just release an article on it today on on this and analyze the two guys analyzing a debate and your teaching what I believe I understand correctly a damnable heresy because are denying the hypostatic union up to get too complicated but these are some of things there okay I okay you if you were to write these questions down and give me a list of a lot of time to do a people have questions like this is after you write articles to answer them now sure info@harm.org you can say hey. Matt said the radio, you might write articles to answer these okay harm.org see ARM.org have you been that website. Now check it out. It's had 145 million visitors I've written. Now I might answer my question have a whole section on Christian doctrine and the whole section on Jehovah's Witnesses okay how much for your time. I really appreciate you know what the person just left. So if you stay on the air got nobody waiting. I can deal more issues I'll never know. If you don't care for their sweet, cry, and Emily.

I really don't know what it might not late because what good it carry thinking that it don't go together, but we came across one about something. So I went here but other people that went bad headache that plate that's a lot of its New Age movement did you see wanted to sell items on any new way that is new in mysticism New Age idiocy creeping into the church. Your soul ties and give me a break rightly toward Bergen Oaks type strips and I find out about that its New Age dog and can get like baking and timeless as you know what will give you the two views you that I hold to the 22 views are yesterday continued for today. The other one is nose are not continued for the today now there are some views in between those that can lean more towards one or the other so here's the thing the Charis my top that's the Greek word charisma, charisma, and what it means is the charismatic gifts for the charismatic movement. The movement that comes from the power of the spirit so eternal life.

In Romans 623 the free that the wages of sin is death, but the free gift charisma is the word charisma and the free gift of God is eternal life. So that's a charismatic gift that's for today eternal life as we know we can have eternal life today. First John 513 so well. They'll say last night.

What were talking about we talk about speaking in tongues and things like that. And those are called the sign gifts right so my position is that all the gifts are for today. I believe in all of them in full operation today and a lot of people don't believe that I have good friends who don't believe that and we don't argue about it. In college, or heretics. What we do, were laughing your verdict on your heretic and wheat we laugh about getting lunch so this is what it says in first Corinthians 17 talking to the church so you're not lacking in any gift in the world is Teresa crew charismatic Clarice Monty. Okay charismatic right that you're not lacking any gift, waiting eagerly the return of Jesus.

So I look at that I went to lack any gift.

Waiting for return of Christ. Now a lot of people say no. The charismatic Gifford are done because they were stay stopped with the death of the last apostle, which I don't agree with the I could be wrong about this.

This just my position.

Not saying I have the right position and you need to believe that I'm saying this is my position. It is possible in rock that believe I am just as the people hold a position don't believe there wrong. This is what we call evolution and were allowed rightly to Belushi's Romans 14 talks about this so I can have different fears that yes that's unlike the jeweler's witnesses think law and so my view is that there still around because I see nothing in Scripture that says they see store people to first 2013 8 to 13 to talk to me about this.

I have a whole paper written on it.

I get into it about the perfect comes imperfect part passes away with that is we don't have a whole bunch of time from talking quickly. So what I would say for you is do your own study and just come up with what you decide, and if you call me up in a month and say look I on I decided charismatic gifts.

If not for today Isaac okay as long as you did that for what you see in Scripture.

If you say my eye or you say I agree with you man. Isaac good as long as you done this is a debatable issue. I okay I found my you're welcome. Somebody call back again to already did want to other caller valves the Lord bless you, another program powered by the Truth Network