Your Divine Design - How to Discover Your Primary Spiritual Gift, Part 1

God has given to each believer, something that if they understand it there is a primary motivation. There is a way that aligns their life actions the relationships but only if they understand what it is and how to deploy what I'm talking about is your primary spiritual gift. If you do not know what your primary spiritual gift is don't go away. Welcome to this Edition of Living on the Edge with shipping chips or Bible teacher for the steely discipleship program motivating Christians to live a Christian and were in the middle of our series your divine design was just a minute triple. Help us better understand who God created us to be equipped each person for specific purpose, so if you're unsure of your God-given gifts.

This will be a really thought-provoking message.

Now after the teaching you will be with us in studio to share some deeper inside this topic. So stick around for that. Okay, let's join ship now for stock my dream and my goal is to help you discover your primary spiritual gift.

I thought the way to go there sometimes a story helps more than lots of information is what I want to do is I'll give you my journey to talk about how I discovered my primary spiritual gift and impact it made on me for errors occurred in my life.

The first era of my life is what I call the era of ignorance. I was clueless. I did not grow up as a Christian, I did not open the Bible until I was about 18 years old and I read to the New Testament to her three times involved in college ministry started growing and I'm sure it said something but spiritual gifts. I never heard anyone talk about spiritual gifts. I never heard any teaching on it. No explanation. I was just clueless. I wasn't looking for what I do know anything about. I read through and that's kind interesting. The next era of my journey was a call the era of confusion and part of it might have to do with you know when I became a Christian. But then I was two, three, four years old in the Lord and when I heard people talk about spiritual gifts.

They were always arguing. They were arguing about this gift for some to skip. These are temporary. These are permanent if you don't have this gift and you never be a somebody only disc if it shows that you really got this or that and people argued so much. I just got paralyzed and I thought to myself, I don't think I want any of those. I mean, if this is what it produces. I'm just getting out of there and so I just kind of put on the back burner and didn't think much about it for several years later, went to seminary and you know you can't go to seminary without studying all the Bible and spiritual gifts and as a young pastor I entered the era of what I called Discovery and I decided that you know something on the can be ignorant anymore. I did a word study I went to seminary that had a high value on the languages and so after three years of Greek and two years of Hebrew, I did a word study on every single spiritual gift every single word and I traced it in the etymology of the words and I mean I did all the work so that I can say here's the word here is the gift here's where it shows up. Here's what this word meant classical Greek on and on and on and on and basically when I got done I had a lot of knowledge about spiritual gifts. Part of my study. I learned the basics of spiritual gifts, and it was very helpful was a good step of, for example, I learned like you did. Every Christian has one or more spiritual gifts. I learned many believers have received more than one spiritual gift, I learned that spiritual gifts can be abused or neglected, but if there really received at salvation. They can't be lost. I learned that your given them at the moment of regeneration, but a spiritual gift can go either undiscovered or lie dormant for years, I learned that spiritual gifts are the same as a gift of the Holy Spirit mean.

I learned to get to the Holy Spirit is coming to faith your born-again spiritual gifts are divine endowments for service. I learned that spiritual gifts are the same as spiritual fruit spiritual fruit has to do with character a life of Christ made in me spiritual gifts has to do with service empowerment to build others in the body of Christ. I learned that spiritual guests are different than natural talents. Natural talents are abilities I get in my physical DNA when I'm born spiritual gifts are what I get in my spiritual DNA when I'm born again I learned that the word for gift charisma, literally means a grace gift. And so it means that whatever gift I have.

I did earn, but sovereignly, the Holy Spirit gave it to me because he has a purpose for my life but I'm to walk and to good works, and so it's just a gift, and it sovereignly bestowed so those basic principles I learned all those basic principles and I could define them. Now here's the bad news to some of you may be thinking to yourself I done that to is what I ended up with imagine in your mind a salad bar.

I made a really big salad bar with all the gifts and what I ended up with his I could go over and sail beats salad into those crouton looking things I could describe them and tell you where they came from and I could step back and say I think my gifts are somewhere you know I think I must have the leadership and maybe it will prophecy.

I'm not sure that sound like a weird word unable say that one and I think I got some expectation and when I get in front of people. Some things happen.

So maybe teaching and I kinda boil down to five or six sort of general ones and it had little or no impact on how I live my life. I like to ask you how many of you which era if if if you just had to take a pen out and say to yourself, which one of these errors in my and and and there's no shame either in the air of ignorance. I don't have a clue about spiritual gifts or on an air of confusion. I've heard people say all kind of things and I really don't know what to believe or maybe you're knowledgeable and you say to yourself, you know I got the gist of spiritual gifts, but it is not like it's changing my life. I'm not making big decisions in my final area era is what I'll call the era of empowerment and air of empowerment is when I discovered I have one primary spiritual gift and I have a cluster of ministry gifts and I begin to make decisions about where to focus my energy and where to focus my time.

I made decisions about what I was going to do with my life. In fact, I can tell you it begin to so shape where my energy and focus and development went because I understood that what God called me to do the good works he wants me to walk and had to do with being gifted. See, you've gotta figure out and I've got to figure out what kind of pressure you because you know it if you don't take this seriously. You can think of this kind of brush and then got assigned you to do a wall tie. What it doesn't work or you can think to yourself, you know Billy Graham. That was a good one. All will be like Billy and God's called you to do some delicate work and you're going to listener know what this is not working so well and so what I want to tell you is that understanding your primary spiritual gift and how it fits with the purpose God has for your life is absolutely empowering and can incredibly give you some focus to your life about what you really need to do.

I hope you're asking.

So what's the breakthrough knew what helped you what moves you from this. You understand spiritual gifts in general to it being a focal absolute point for you to understand this is who God made you to be in the city. This is what he wants you to do.

I want to tell you what help me the most in unwrapping my spiritual gift.

Put another way, how to discover your spiritual gift. Here's how I want to develop this. First of all I just want to give you some facts and I'm just can. I want to blow or walk is neurologically here's the facts. There's four major passages on spiritual gifts, then what you see is you gonna develop some sort of paradigm or framework to organize those in a way that makes sense only give you a framework not from that Mount Sinai okay but it's a framework very helpful.

And then I want to go through the description of what I'm gonna call the motivational or the court gifts that I believe everyone in this room has at least one of the seven that I'll describe and were literally in a go through a process where I will describe the gift give you the characteristics talk about some dangers and have you a yes no or maybe so. All I want to do is is is kind of put you in a funnel so that when you get to the end of the session, you may not say old. That's the one, but you will go from a general knowledge, maybe down to you, and I think it's probably one of these two. So are you ready to dig in together. Let's look at the framework as you look at spiritual gifts study the New Testament what you can find.

There's four basic passages Romans chapter 12 first Corinthians chapter 12 Ephesians 4 and first Peter four and what I can tell you if you look at those just in columns, you can say okay Romans 12 okay, here's the gifts there's seven gifts there. Okay, you can move on. First Corinthians chapter 12 early part of the chapter gifts are mentioned, how they're used later part of the chapter. Ephesians for you to look at primary ministry. Some of the possible some of the profit sums of angels, some of pastor teachers in first Peter four Peter actually gives you his paradigm if he says that if you swapped up the apostle Peter and Sapir were anything but spiritual gifts to say well I think there's two kinds speaking gifts and serving gifts amazing to say let him speak as it were, the very words of God and let him who serve served by the strength which God supplies and so all I want you to know is any study of spiritual gifts. Your dental land in these four passages. Now here's the question, how do you organize him how you look at them.

Do you look at them as just deeds and you look up every gift and there's maybe 28, 29 different gifts, whatever.

And you say they're just randomly put in their horror was their message to the church at Rome a different message of the church of Corinth a different message to the church of Ephesians. Is it possible that God for us has taken these in and lay them out in a certain way that there is a lens to look through the can have it all fit together. That would make sense for us now. I believe there is and I think that paradigm or that framework is found in first printing chapter 12 versus 4 to 6. Notice what he says there are different kind of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service but the same Lord. There are different kinds of workings but the same God who works all of them in all men know this is written to the church that seems to have at least more gifts operating than any other church but also the church and seems to be more carnal, more confused and and misusing them as it seems that God hear it to the apostle Paul is giving a framework about all these different gifts and how they fit together your notice that I put there's different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit, and that word for gifts is charisma taught that's our general word. It means a grace gift something in endowment supernatural ability given from God.

But then he goes on to say, there are different kinds of service also referring to spiritual gifts and that's our word Dia Connie on and what you the word Deacon. It just means a waiter of tables. It has the idea of just service and then the third where it says there different kinds of workings. That's the idea. The Greek word is entered, Thanh and I put that they are not necessarily to impress you, although I don't pronounce them very well, but I put it there. Can anyone see an English word that might come out of that energy you see its energy and so what the apostle Paul when he wants to take a framework. He says there are certain what I would call motivational gifts there certain passions there certain drives there certain ones that every believer has. I will argue and that is to say that everyone of us will have one of them and I'll develop that point in just a minute and that is when I say but that 1 Strong Motivational Dr. will then be manifested in different arenas of service or ministries and then as you are motivational drives primary gift comes out in different ministries, then the effects or the energy or the manifestation of what the Spirit of God will do will show up in the body of Christ in various ways. Let me summarize it by this way. There are three kinds of spiritual gifts every believer has one primary motivational gift and by the way, this is not from Sinai. Okay, here's what I mean by that.

I have seen.

I read tons of books on spiritual gifts.

I have studied them all. There's lots of people that have lots of good ideas about spiritual gifts. Okay, this is the paradigm that is help me the most. Okay, so you need to do what those good Marine Christians do examine the Scriptures after you hear what I say look at these passages and say does this make sense doesn't line up with God's word and spiritual gifts is not an area for disunity or argumentation. The whole goal was what build each other up in love and so what I want to say is one. Every believer has one primary motivational gift and those are found in Romans 12 versus six through eight, and then on to argue that were to concentrate on discovering and developing this gift. The second thing that all that all argue is that the motivational gift out of Romans 12.

This driver ability can express itself through a variety of ministry gifts.

We find the ministry gifts in Ephesians 4 and first printing 1228 following and third when we exercise our motivational gifts through our ministry gift. The Holy Spirit then determines what manifestation or impact the believer will receive open your Bibles with me if you will. Romans chapter 12 and let's limit limits. Let me see if I can build my case. Romans chapter 12 we know verse one your living sacrifice right verse two.

Don't be conformed to this world be transformed verse three have an accurate view of yourself and verses four and five were in their interdependent body.

Just like the physical body and then when he talks about unity and diversity. He says to us, but we have different gifts, according to the grace given us. Can't take any credit it's grace given us the notice this command. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it into the proportion of his faith.

If it's in serving, let them serve if it's in teaching, let him teach if it's encouraging, let him encourage if it's in contributing to the needs of the saints, let him give generously if it's in leadership, let him govern diligently if it's in showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully not notice the little phrase, let him let him let him let him you might put a little underline that in your Bible, Kenneth Weese talks about this he says it's the locket to a sphere grammatically and what he means by that is that the idea is that the one with the gift. For example of teaching should remain within the exercise of the sphere of that gift know what I'm good at.

The reason I'm gonna tell you that I think Romans 12 gives these timeless motivational gifts is because in Romans 12, you can go through the Bible and I am commanded to obey all seven of those things I'm commanded what took to do what I'm commanded to serve. I'm commanded to exhort.

I'm commanded to show mercy.

Second thing is every church I don't care. The background of the church. Every church needs of some things happening the other things every single believer's life for you to grow to be a healthy mature believer all seven of those things need to occur in your life from other people leadership, mercy, exhortation, teaching prophecy, and so what Kenneth Weese says basically is that out of need out of commitment out of servant hood. We will all exercise all seven of these things, but he's notice he says let him it is to teach, teach, put your focus on teaching meeting needs be a servant. But when you ask where you put the lion share of your time. If it service student serving if it's prophecy due to the proportion of your faith. If the primary is giving into it liberally. In other words, it basically says what ever the primary motivation God has given you maximize it focus on it. That's where it puts you know your energy and your strength.

Weese goes on to say it's a wise man who stays within the sphere of service for which God the Holy Spirit has fitted him and does not invade some other field of service for which he is not fitted. That doesn't mean that we we don't serve other people and do all these things on occasion, but what it means is you can't go through the pipeline to discover govern God's will and his purpose for your life and if you collect Ephesians 210. There is a good work that God has prepared in advance that I'm to walk in what ever that good work is. He has a primary motivational gift, a tool in me to use to build the body of Christ. I need to figure out which one. This is so that I know whether supposed to be leading motivated by exultation is motivated by service, was it something else now. The second thing you'll notice there than Romans 12 you have prophecy service teaching exhortation giving leadership and mercy but you notice there's a whole another set. There are ministry gifts.

These ministry gifts are areas of service there people that are apostles and prophets, evangelist pastors, teachers, a worker of miracles. Someone who's gifted in healing, helping tongues, administration and and when you study those what you find is those are actual ministries. Those are actual service to people and where that the final category. The workings first Corinthians 12 eight through 11. These are literally manifestations or effects when someone is motivated by a certain gift and then in this ministry than what you see is people get a word of wisdom or word of knowledge or faith or healing or miracles or prophecy or discernment, tongues, interpretation of tongues. Now, just before some of you little uncomfortable and wonder where were going is in our next time together. I'm going to go through every single one of those gifts and I'll give you a definition and I give you some historical background and will look at it today. Think I want to get the big picture.

I want to get the paradigm because here's what happens is we study all these gifts. Now we have 20 somethings to choose from. We learn little bit about them.

We often even take a little test we took the test now is that Tess made a big difference what you do in your life but not what I'm going to suggest is if you understand there is one primary motivation and that one primary motivational get expressed in multiple ministries. What happened where the confusion happens is when you experience the way you experience your giftedness is what I call the two F's the fulfillment factor and the fruitfulness factor when you're in your giftedness. If it's in a ministry gifts there's something that happens inside of you.

Enjoy wells up and it affects people's lives positively and so often we confuse our ministry gifts with her motivational gifts. Okay, enough talking a ready let me paint a few pictures you know give you three or four examples and then let's get down to what you really want to look at and that's would you go through each of those motivational gifts and describe them and help me figure out which one of these might be mine. Let me give you a couple examples I work with a guy and have worked with them for a number of years now. His name is Greg.

His primary motivational gift is service. He is a servant. He loves to serve another words what motivates him as he sees needs and he wants to serve, it can be with his hands.

It could be multiple ways, but his ministry gifts are twofold. His ministry gifts are in the area of administration and an area of pastor teacher and so Greg has this amazing desire, but his drive is always to serve, to serve to help the fixed make things right. The care to be behind the scenes to shame go away from the limelight and to make everyone else work in an organization. This guy comes in and he's like oil.

I don't care what's going on the organization. Once he begins to work in the relationships, things to start working better because he has the ministry gift of the ministration, but his motivation is not to be an administrator see what happens. He administrates so well. People keep trying to elevate him and like you know he was chief of staff will then you know people want to make and wanted to be the chief operating officer of this group over here this company over here and that's not what I made to do.

I want to serve, I implement the vision of a visionary, I do it primarily through the gift of administration, the ministry there and by pastoring and shepherding people and because he understands that when he does I guess what happens people get a word of knowledge. All I'm in the wrong fit in my job, people get a word of wisdom. Oh, I guess the way I talk to other people in the organization is offending them and that's what the barrier is people get healing as they understand what went wrong in a relationship you see what I'm saying but see when he's what happens though is if you confuse motivational gifts with ministry gifts. You can really go in directions because everyone pulls you where they see you operating it may not be a primary motivation second example will give is my wife. She has a gift of exultation. She I will learn what that is but the essence it's it's the ability come alongside people and in both comfort then and bring wholeness and challenge them to really walk with the Lord were hurt ministry gifts are administration, teaching, and actually apostleship cheat sheet she over and over finds herself. She wants to help people and shall see something that needs to be done.

So where we were. She started with a box of books and apostleship of someone who likes to start launch things she will see a need and and she'll do it out of encouraging people so she start with a box of books and build a whole library why to encourage people to learn how to walk with God. She developed and recruited actually prayed in a team about 10 ladies to help her, and more counseling occurred in our library and anyplace else in the church ship, how did she do that will shed a ministry gift of administration to organize so guess what everyone wants Teresa to do that was wanted to start new things or be some admin. That's not what she wants to do the other thing she always did it. She found the most hurting hurting, lonely unlovely people in any church we've ever been to and she is drawn to them like a magnet because she sees the hope and so she ends up mentoring and counseling individual ladies, but when she does that and teaches it did real well. We had people so we put a put on the radio once and and then we got all these request you know this church. This church, this is where your wife come and speak, speak, speak, speak, it was great. She does know she understands her she can in the ministry gift of exultation teach their calling is not to be a teacher.

Her calling is to encourage people and when she understood that it gives her grid to say yes to this noted that third example, a fellow named Dick is a good friend.

His primary motivational gift is giving it shows up into ministry gifts one ministry gift is apostleship is up his entrepreneur. He starts things he starts things in the marketplace. But he also starts things and in the spiritual world and so I remember I was sitting across the table from him and he became one of my mentors about every other week we play nine holes of golf early on Thursday morning and I would bounce all my ideas often and I actually went to my sermon from Bob Holt to the whole 60 we goofed off in whole one and then the last three holes. I was leadership questions and he just put his arm around. He mentored me for about five or six years and he was a bigwig and some huge company in decided it was too much travel. So he started his own business and develop these the chain of stores like like Michael's or Joanne's into the fabric stores and that he's got the gift of giving, and so he heard about the opportunity for radio. I was doing five services.

The last thing I ever wanted to do was start a radio ministry on think I'm teaching five services a weekend. This is suicidal, start something new. Are you kidding he saw it. He put up the money for the first couple years paid for the whole thing down people he entrepreneur did but he didn't do it because he had a passion for radio. He had the gift of giving Saul impact and what he did so. So then the other is his gift of helps. This is really interesting so he's an entrepreneur with the gift of giving. So guess what everyone wants to make in every church I went to, you know, he told me, as they always want to put me on the finance committee.

I know how to make money. I know how to go to light up again the finest I hate finance committees. In fact, many want to make me a board member.

I hate boards. I have the gift of helps is a ministry gift. You know what he was good at putting his arm around guys like me or meeting specific practical needs through his gift of giving and you know what he said. I also numbered boards anymore. I don't serve on finance committees.

You know what he does.

He's an entrepreneur who takes his money and gives it away to launch great stuff, and to come alongside and help people in practical ways did you see how understanding your primary motivation can really shape what you do okay last example on my primary gift of prophecy. For years, probably the first 1518 years, I thought it was leadership is always found myself in leadership areas and to be a pastor and if you grow something you gotta learn about part of my ministry gifts. You'll notice it says administration/leadership will learn later that word administration. It literally means the one who steers the ship is providing big picture direction.

That's one of my ministry gifts, but because of my background is in what someone said would you like the gift of prophecy or the gift of leadership. I thought prophecy. Minutes of like guys with long beards out of touch, say wacky things in yada shooter stone if they don't come out right saw it to be a leader you know and I didn't understand prophecy, but what happened is my ministry, my ministry gifts are pastor teacher in my ministry gifts are administration in the in the leadership side of that and then I actually have ministry gifts in prophecy and evangelism and so I got confused my motivation.

Bring a look at the second. My motivation is always been a passion to see life-changing impact in and see peoples be convicted by God's word and be real practical and make a difference when I see the state of the church and when the church is unholy. I literally tore the few things I cry about. I mean, I don't know what it is it's it's inside me. His chest inside me. I long for the church to be the church. Why is God gifted me the good works that I am to walk-in the purpose of my life is to be one of these broad strokes.

I'm to do the background on the wall so that God will take teams of people and come back and sketch and then individual lives the touchup, but he's called me to be a prophet to take God's word in a global way to the world, to say the church is gotta be the church.

We have to have a high view of God pastors we gotta walk with God. Christians, we gotta live like Christians give me any text I'm to tell you those are my applications.

It doesn't matter where I preach, I'm in a challenge you, encourage you, beg you plead with you, comfort you do whatever I need to do for you to step up to the plate be man's not Nana God's will. But now I know that but see my ministry gifts I ended up overseas, early on one of my ministry gift is evangelism. And so, like I was just an Indian I did a crusade I spoke out of the motivation for change lives and so lots of people come to Christ. I went overseas and I did internship in evangelism seminary because I thought I supposed to be an evangelist going overseas and I saw, people come to Christ to get this one supposed to do that and then you know later on I thought well, you know, pastor, teacher, that's what I love to do and I got to do take those gifts and put them together and what happened is that church grew and grew and grew and grew and God took the prophecy gift the teaching and he just made it go this way, and he blessed it, and I was almost the last to know Dick, my friend two or three elders basically said a chip, you know, you have grown an organization that is bigger than your capacity to lead and we love you. Okay, there's thousands of people coming there's all kind of management issues you've learned. We change your job, six, seven, eight times last 10 years. It's wonderful God is done, but what you really bring to the table is when you study, you pray visionary leadership in our elders meetings and you preach the word of God. That's what you bring in your spending all this time management meetings and leadership stuff and trying to learn to do all the stuff and when the church was at this point you had leadership gift enough to do it and guess what the church is at this point in your the bottleneck and you know what the most freeing thing. The reason I'm here, as I realize God wanted me to hone and focus on the motivational gift of prophecy and the ministry gift of prophecy, and to be free to team with churches and pastors guilty what the other thing I tear up on it and I love your pastor and I love your pastor, you have no idea what it's like to be pastor give no idea of the challenges how much help and support and encouragement they need. So here's what you've got a category ministry gifts you get a category of motivational gifts and then effects when those things happen and so what I see when I get to preach and teach. Or I was at Moody and I had a chance to kinda speak prophetically, not in telling the future. But this is the call of the church. I've never felt such joy and we got emails from people around the world who are listening on the Internet by way of the radio because that's just that happens to be the brush got me not veterans not worth more important or less important it's the divine endowment given to me what years listening to part one.

How to discover your primary spiritual gift will be right back with his application for this teaching from his series your divine design.

Many of you, nor mission is for Christians to live like Christians and a critical step in accomplishing that is for believers to put their spiritual gifts into practice. The problem is many don't even know what their gifting czar through the series strip explores vital biblical passages that will help you identify your spiritual gifts and how to grow and use them correctly, you're not gonna want to miss a single message. For more information about your divine design or resources go to LivingontheEdge.org the chipping remap or call AAA 333-6003 or Bible teacher chipping room is with me know and chip before we go any further.

I was wondering if you talk to that person out there is been listening to the series and is eager to grow spiritually, but senses something is missing.

Can you give him some encouragement, I be glad to Dave. I think in our Western way of thinking for so many of us, and it's really good to me and I've been a pastor for many many many years and we want people in the Bible, and you need to be in a small group and we talk about all those relationships, but when you're eager to grow. Often the big thing missing is sort of the outflow. What we tend to, you know, I'm getting podcast and I'm listening to messages and I'm getting lots of truth in me, but for the dynamic that something that's missing is God has deposited inside of each one of us at the moment of conversion, a spiritual gift or a set of spiritual gifts and those are designed so we actually get to be a part of his mission.

Oh, we have gifts that teacher administrator show mercy or be generous and and as you activate those men, I will tell you, you start to really really grow in a great way and so your divine design is a book and a resource that we have created to help Christians discover exactly what God has deposited in them and then get back into the lifestream of the body of Christ. So Dave, I think that would be just a high level thing to do is learn your spiritual gift and then learn how to put into practice. I couldn't agree more chip to order your copy of your divine design go to LivingontheEdge.org or call AAA 333-6003. Let us help you take the next step in your faith journey discovering your spiritual gifts and understanding how to activate them again to get your hands on Chip's newest book your divine design visit LivingontheEdge.org or call AAA 333-6003 hapless nurse top special offers will with all that said chip. Let's hear your application for this message. If today during the broadcast.

Your head was swimming and you are saying to yourself, knowing second, there's a motivational gift. There's a manifestation of that gift, there's a ministry gift chip. Would you slow down your making me crazy look.

Go to the Internet LivingontheEdge.org that's LivingontheEdge.org. I have a chart if you could listen to what I said today with the chart in front of you, you would see the four facts and four key passages you would see the framework that I got that out of first printing chapter 12 and then laid out is in very detailed, careful analysis exactly what a primary spiritual gift is what is a ministry gift and then what's the manifestation of the results of that gift getting this clear is critical to understanding your spiritual gift. In a way this really can help you. I don't want you to leave this series with well yeah I think my gift is exultation leadership mercy surveying and one maybes playing piano. I want you to know what's the one primary gift that the others flow out of and you can learn it is can take some effort. This is critical. It's important we you please make the effort to discover this precious gift God's given you. It'll make all the difference in the world. Greek word shipped FedEx as we wrap up, let me quickly tell you about a great way to listen to her extended teaching podcast here chip any time on your echo or echo.to get started. Ask Alexa to enable the chipping room podcast and just say Alexa play. The chipping room podcast.

It's that easy will join us again next time, Mr. continues a series your divine design. Until then, this is Steve Drewry saying nice for listening to this edition of living all the