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Is There a Connection Between Sinai and Shavuot (Pentecost)?

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September 2, 2022 12:49 pm

Is There a Connection Between Sinai and Shavuot (Pentecost)?

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. So what is traditional Judaism say that there's an association between the giving of the law on Mount Sinai, and the feast of shovel feast of Pentecost for the light a fire with your hosts difficult scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more savvy and spiritual clarity. Call 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown Jewish Thursday Michael Brown delighted to be with you. If you have Jewish related question of any kind accumulates to the Hebrew Bible beekeeper language you can relate to Israel today can relate to Jewish tradition accumulates at you. She will be the Messiah of Israel messianic prophecy anything is like that Jewish related give me a call 866-348-7884.

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Okay, we are coming into the high holy days, and that begins on the Jewish calendar while on our calendar September 25 right so the evening of September 25 will be the young true. The sounding of the trumpet of the shofar blasts which are traditional Judaism becomes recession the beginning of the year. 10 days later, Yom Kippur, the day of atonement five days after that weeklong celebration of Sukkoth tabernacles and there is the eighth day of the festival and it ought right so what I want to talk about about shovel out today about Pentecost which which happened back in the spring. It was on my mind last night thinking about the holidays coming in.

Judaism called amino Naeem the days of all the 10 days from from Russia should not young people were being especially sacred, set apart for repentance and introspection and things like that but I was just thinking back to larger issues relating to the Torah relating to the giving of the Torah and in Jewish tradition, the Torah was given at Mount Sinai at the time of the feast of shovel quote right now is called weeks because it marks out the seven weeks and a day from Passover to Pentecost. So God says in the laws concerning this. Leviticus 23 gives the overview of all the high holy days as as well as talks about the Sabbath, but not when we we look at this I would not have thought based on my own calculations, that from the Passover for the children of Israel coming out of Egypt from Passover to Sinai with a big 50 days now the rabbis have come up with that account. And if you look in Exodus chapter 19 verse one on the third new moon after the Israelites had gone forth from the land of Egypt that very day they entered the wilderness of Sinai. Well, since you have the of the first of the seas. We have Israel coming out in the middle of the month right the 14th day, 50th day leaving so there celebrating Passover this this new festival this new time of of remembrance.

So they are they are now in a situation where 14 days later, roughly you get to the first new moon than 30 days later.

Second, new moon, then third, the moon would be 30 days after that. So just looking at this I would say okay this is obviously not 50 days from Passover to Sinai Aruba calculation comes out differently but of in any event that's with a come up with right put aside the fact that I don't see this being chronological, it is Jewish tradition that the Torah was given on Mount Sinai. So during the time of shovel quote there is the special celebration of the giving of the Torah to Israel. Now if you look at this from a spiritual point of view. The parallels are very accurate. I don't see this chronological, but from a spiritual point of view.

The parallels are very very interesting because let's just say you agree with the tradition that God gave the Torah Mount Sinai and if you traditional Junior want to give the chronological order for. Please please call. I will see how works but I know there traditional humans were so please call and divide those traditional arguments, but this just say okay according to Jewish tradition draws given at Mount Sinai now Pentecost to rosier Monsanto really grew that shovel Pentecost now fast-forward to the giving of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. So, 14, 1500 years later. What happens there. The giving of the law on Mount Sinai than Moses going up on the Mount to be with the Lord staying there for this witness. By the time he comes down. The children of Israel worshiping idols what happens as a result of that 3000 Israelites died roughly 3000 Israelites die what happens when the Holy Spirit is given at at at shovel Pentecost in the New Testament 3000 Israelites come to faith doesn't stop there.

What was one of the conspicuous elements. When God came down on Mount Sinai fire was one of the conspicuous elements when the Holy Spirit was given at Pentecost tongues of fire.

There is even a Jewish tradition that says that because you did not just have the children of Israel. There you had the mixed multitude that came out of Egypt with them so they would not have spoken Hebrew that a Mount Sinai God spoke in multiple languages at the same time.

Of course we know that Pentecost God spoke in multiple languages at the same time to the Jews who had been gathered from all around the world.

So the parallels really are interested I just don't know how works chronologically to say that the law was given to Israel at that time, but that is what traditional Jews believe that is with traditional Jews celebrate and for sure, even without the chronology we can see the parallel uses at mingle always bad. No, quite the opposite. It means almost perfect it, it means it was a reflection of God's goodness and attributes that there were aspects of the draw that were given by God based on the weakness of human flesh such as divorce. In Deuteronomy 24th chapter and that's what Jesus says in Matthew 19 because of the hardness of your hearts. It was given there was divorce was not the ideal, but because of human weakness in human sinfulness.

It was given as a necessary helpful concession so in in this case we say the law itself set standards.

Loving God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength.

Loving our neighbor as ourselves, except other kinds of standards and we fell short when I say we I mean the people of Israel. Whoever it was given to any nation any people were falling short because always bad know because the law was good.

That's what Paul writes in Romans seven that that the reason sin was awakened in him through the law. The reason I do not covet awakened with minimal types of covetousness is because he is sinful, but the law is spiritual laws.

Holy laws good. That's why the law, God's teaching God's standards because of authoritative revelation could not save because it showed us what was right but did not give us the supernatural ability to climb up to those heights.

It's here it's accessible it's it's doable in terms of nobody is stopping you from doing nobody is stopping you from carrying it out. It just just think of New Testament commands that are given as anybody stopping us from fulfilling the great commission is anybody stopping us from praying. Is anybody stopping us from doing various good deeds at is anyone stopping us with your whole echo we can do it if we choose to, but so much of the time we don't choose to just what we need a Savior.

So the Cheraw Paul writes in Galatians 3 and with that, in particular in mind the Sinai covenant and the Cheraw with that was a pedagogue was a schoolmaster with someone that would oversee the education of the children in the household slave that would watch over the to bring us to the Messiah.

When you when you read through the book of Deuteronomy in the 30th chapter in God cyst Israel. It's is right here it's not too difficult.

You'll need someone to figure it out for it's right here. You can do it in the 31st chapter Moses is luck.

I know how wicked and evil.

You've been one of been here. I know what you've done in my lifetime, you're going to be much worse after me and then in chapter 32. Here's a song to sing as witness against yourselves because you Gunderson will be scattered white. That's human nature.

As Paul writes in Romans seven the interbeing. We affirm was good was right. God says is right. We know it's true and that we don't live it out.

That's part of the purpose of the draw. Paul understood that as someone who loved the law, people said no traditional due religious Jew observed you would ever say with Paul says about the law.

He attacks the law he denigrates the law you look at Psalm 19. Look at Psalm 119. They exalt the law of Paul exalt with the law and understood the purpose of the law, because of which you recognize that there had to be a new and better covenant which God himself and said God himself and said because of the failure of the people of Israel. Jeremiah 31 beginning in verse 31. I will make a new and better covenant and that's what we experience the firstfruits now that we experience the beginning of it now without the fullness of it is the nation of Israel fully embraces the Messiah will come into the fullness of it and were still in these earthly bodies not yet resurrected into a place of perfect obedience. But we enjoy the firstfruits of having a new heart. We enjoy the firstfruits of having a new nature, we enjoy the firstfruits of supernatural empowerment to do what God is commanded us to do by grace were not just forgiven of sin, but empowered to live above it and as we draw on that. That's full perfection in this world because of human nature. But as we draw on it, even while in this world we can experience the new life of the spirit.

Let's draw on everything that God has given to us. Okay, 866-3487 84 we come back. Tomatoes are taking calls but also want to talk about biblical prophecy is not as simple as well to make a line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown one fire to before I get into this issue of biblical prophecy not being as simple as we make it out to be explained to me the moment but so Scripture calls also posted on Twitter for folks to post questions there may get to some as well. Let's go to Alayna and Alexander Virginia walking to the line of fire around only here what general that I agree were riding down the book understanding of that agriculture work that were using on my older… And placement of the greeny is well.

We got back back out there hundred and six good translations really do open up the death of the languages there's nothing magical about Hebrew or Greek, they they are not better than English or Spanish or Russian or Chinese. Their ancient languages and some and then smoking. To this day in different forms so when the apostles were writing and there may have been some documents part of which were written in Hebrew, Aramaic, but everything that we have of New Testament was written in Greek is because that was the language that was most use this time and could communicate things best to the ancient world.

So it's it's not like Will Jesus said this in Aramaic. We said this in Hebrew that you put it in Greek will understand it anymore. No, God would not of done that otherwise gaga would not have allow that to happen. He could've had the wall speaking Hebrew at that time in any number of different things that God could've arranged but nothing is lost. We trust that the writers were inspired by the spirit as they wrote.

We understand that that this is God's word. So they were inspired to write in Greek, adequately conveying the meanings if people say no, no, no, unless you bring this back to the original Hebrew.

The original Aramaic and I can understand it. In point of fact we don't have an original Hebrew and original Aramaic we have is the ancient Greek so first as they wrote in Greek.

They adequately conveyed what needed to be conveyed is always good to study background. It's always good to ask how this might've been expressed in Hebrew, Aramaic, and and then how the New Testament writers understood that as they conveyed it but were getting it the way God wanted us to get it. That's why if you look at 100 different translations modern translations into English and other languages. If you don't buy good scholars. The overall sense is going to be consistent. Anytime you translate from one language to another. You're going to have a different expression of things look I preached from the world and if I would be translator. The message I preach is exactly what hits home. The overall thing. I was getting across is exactly what hits home and the people respond as if I had been speaking to them in English. So even though it's a different culture in a different language because this person knows my heart.

We are in the spirit together in the overall message is getting out together. Then it's clear all the more when it's meticulous Bible translation so background is good to know, always helpful, but as one who spent decades working with ancient languages, I'm totally free preaching in English using English Bible because I know overall the spirit and in the words being correctly conveyed clarify a lot worried that training. I cherish the contract agree and completing the work wary about. Meaning on the culture, what be able to do that for decades in its here. Here's the deal. God preserved the New Testament for us and gave it to us in Greek that's that's what we have.

That's what he gave to try to put back in Hebrew. Why on earth they would you try to put first Corinthians into Hebrew. Paul Paul wrote it to Greek speakers. Greek speaking Gentiles Paul wrote it to them in Greek everyone in Hebrew, nobody would've understood you still know I'm talking about the sermon on the messages to be sure, you could make a better argument that he spoke in Aramaic and he spoke in Heber but either way, once you try to reconstruct what was based on the Greek if you say the Greek got it wrong.

That would mean that the apostles wrote it incorrectly and for all of church history. We had it incorrectly.

If you say they got it right then you're just putting it back to what we really have recently though I got wrong.

Now you're trying to figure out with your own brain what it might have been. Dr. Brown said the 2+2 is four, but I think he actually meant this.

It's pure speculation. It is utterly worthless, fruitless, and it's it's bad scholarship to the think that you can accurately be able to do it if you put 10 top Hebrew and Greek scholars in 10 separate rooms and say take the sermon on the Mount and put back into what you think was an original Hebrew or their Aramaic, and Greek scholars take the sermon on the mount from Greek and put back into the original Aramaic as you think it would be. It 10 different scholars top scholars at the end of the day.

Every one of them is can have something different that I have come up with something different because it's it's you try to reconstruct and speculation and its is a bad benefice. I have an article on this, but it's an academic article I wrote a 93 it's it's just a bad dangerous practice and less thing to reiterate all that has been preserved for us is the Greek manuscripts we don't have an ancient Hebrew in ancient Aramaic original. We have the Greek that's what was preserved and that's what was used by the early church and recognized as authoritative, so fear not, I do have some expertise in the subject. Fear not ignore what they're doing and be secure in the word that we have okay Dr. Brown and I called. I think wary about it yet. Don't worry about that at all. But this is really interesting of use this example, many a time, but we know that the book that's in the apocryphal and Catholic Orthodox Bibles Ecclesiasticus or been sooner. The wisdom of events or so we know because the beginning that it says it was originally written in Hebrew, and then he translated into Greek right so elastically passed out in the written, the one writing translated into Greek, was originally so we know there was a Hebrew root so early last century there was a Jewish scholar who said well since we know is risen. Heber let me take the condenser have a 4050 chapters and let me translate that back into Heber. I will try to reconstruct in German, it's Rick. Rick visits and is the is the terms of back translation I'm I'm going to take that the Greek text.

I will put back in. Originally because we know there was an original Heber sorry that it is good scholars will among the Dead Sea Scrolls and in subsequent discoveries at Masada.

There was found that the text of the Hebrew been Sarah at Masada. So now we have the original or something very close to the original, so they compared it to to Margolis's work where he went from Greek back to Hebrew healing in a single verse right is not his fault it's it's just an almost impossible science. Yet many words running of the common sense but as I understand he did not get a single verse exactly right. Even though we know there was an original Heber seen these reconstructions and you know Jesus said blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness. It really means. Blessed are those who pursue peace like where you shoot that from well somebody misunderstood this message.

This also those Christians are missing. To say that that what you're saying is the Greek New Testament is not the word of God is not the inspired word of God and now you try to figure out an alleged original what somebody really met.

They said this, but they really meant. This now you straw you distrust the Bibles with you this through out the Bible throughout the New Testament.

I am 100% for looking as much as we can. The Jewish background to the New Testament as much as we can.

Looking for better understandings of of Semitic grammar vocabulary.

He reviewed Aramaic as the case fits we know that the writers of the New Testament, with the possible exception of Luke were all Jews and sought in Jewish ways and some thought very Hebraic were you would say and they wrote in Greek.

Accordingly, we understand this very different from saying what we have is that the real word of God and we need to go back to some alleged reconstruction for get of powder. There is no original Hebrew original Aramaic that we have in our possession we have is the Greek New Testament.

Thank God for his line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown 3487 84.

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So as a charismatic Pentecostal myself as someone who believes in the gift of prophecy today is someone who believes that there are prophets in the church today.

Not the same authority to function as Old Testament prophets, but gifted and anointed in similar ways. In other