Are We in the Final Apostasy?

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Could it be that we are in a time that Jesus spoke of as a final great apostasy. Things only get worse from here. Was this just another one of those difficult seasons difficult, challenging seasons that could last for years or decades or go on beyond that seasons that the church has faced before. How we respond 866-34-TRUTH this is Michael Brown walking to the broadcast bridges on the I'm opening the phone lines for anyone who wants to call with a question on any subject whatsoever like we do on Friday so you have questions. We've got answers.

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Today, however, that being said, if you are struggling in your faith.

We got into this yesterday with more people to get to the we were able. If you are struggling in her own faith. If questions are being raised in your own life or to you and you know how to answer them. The best way or if you are watching other people that wants walk with the Lord now fall away, give us a call either to share what you're seeing why people falling away what your insights are maybe your pastor or youth pastor maybe is apparently was young person what you see colleagues, friends, others turning away from the Lord, give us a call. Share your reasons why 866-34-TRUTH or areas where you're struggling in your own life your own heart your own faith or areas where you try to help others in their raising questions. You try to figure out the best way to answer. I'm very happy to hear from you and I will go to those calls first, 8663 for 87884.

I personally do not believe that we are in a very specific and time.

A final apostasy. I'll tell you why in a moment.

Matthew 2412 we know that Jesus says because the love of many because iniquity will abound.

Lawlessness will abound, the love of many will wax cold. So so much since the mistaken and some Islamists lawlessness in the society, the love of many will grow cold. Some translations of the love of most but shouldn't be there. It's really love of many. That's with the Greek says this it will.

Many will follow it.

Now, on the one hand, it could well be that it was speaking of a specific season before the destruction of the second Temple and end precious resident, because in context.

That's the first layer of understanding. But many believe that it speaks of the end of the ages well and I do to that whatever happened then is kind of a parallel for was to happen at the end of the age and even greater final form and we know that a couple verses later, Jesus at this gospel of the kingdom will be preached as witness formations then the end will come. So he is talking ultimate about the the end of the age and there are other passages that talk about the terrible times in first Timothy four. The Spirit expressly says in the latter times some will depart from the faith, or second Timothy three than the last days perilous times will come. But when you read them in context, those verses are saying in these last days in which we live. Paul telling Timothy Timothy in in these these last days, we should be doing your work and your ministry really difficult times can be deceptions can be apostasy.

So that's been there through church history, will it increase and intensify at the end of the age.

As I understand Scripture. Yes, in what ways well on the one hand, will be the greatest outpouring we've ever seen in world history as we get closer and closer to the end of the outpouring will increase. The harvest will increase the signs and wonders will increase and along with that, the availability of sin will increase. Counterfeit miracles will increase deception will increase it it it will be a time as I read Scripture understand excuse me, of parallel extremes. The closer we get to the end of the age. It will be a time of parallel extremes so much light and much darkness so Mrs. how can you have this that happening at the same time light drives out the doctors will just think of planet Earth today it's it's right light and one part right. It's noon and it's it's midnight in another part of the earth that that you can have things going on simultaneously. So I believe that many will fall away and I believe that many will be coming to the faith. It can also be the rapidity and the size of the harvest also means that you have many shallow converts and false converts in the midst of it now.

Yesterday I gave a bunch of reasons that consider some of the keys for it.

So much apostasy today.

I did say the availability of sin is is one is just so much since so many things available so much temptation so many distractions that it makes it much easier for people fully think think of it like this. If you go away into a cabin, you're gonna spend three days in prayer and fasting, and there is no Wi-Fi there is no cell phone signal.

There is no TV and there is no food, just lots of bottles of water in the fridge that sit you gonna have a much better chance of successfully spending the time in prayer and fasting.

Then if the kitchen was stocked with all of your favorite foods and you had all kinds of cable TV and awesome Internet cell phone signals. It's a lot easier to get distracted and into eat when you have the options when you don't. It's a lot easier to do the right thing to just the availability of some of the Websites was Ashley Madison was at the name of it. Adultery websites your marriage you want to find that someone have a fling with things like that mean this type of stuff. The availability of it is his new and and is therefore pulling many people away. Not to mention just the constant stress receiving the things that in themselves may not be wrong, but just spent endless hours wasting your time watching videos on subjects that may themselves be okay, but not to spend hours and hours and hours and hours every day. That's one issue the influence of of new atheism riser that about 15 years ago.

The attacks on Gabi tax in the Bible that is filtered its way down through general culture of solidarity with the LGBT community and in Haywood we love them and their friends and family members who want to support them and in the Bibles against them. So were against the Bible regularly interpret the Bible that's on that image with the church for seven years, preaching a superficial message watered-down message and a compromise message and that is produced many shallow converts of the many who think they're saved you want save that's another issue. So many scandals in the church so much hypocrisy of the, the degree to which the church has is gotten caught up in politics, not in a healthy way. By the way, that becomes a primary identity that's turned a lot of people off this look at my list here. Yeah those are those of the key items that I covered and the fact is though we need to have confidence in the power of the gospel. We need to have confidence in the goodness of God. We need to have confidence in the authority of Scripture.

Now for some that's as natural as breathing. It's just it's a given course, God is good. Of course, the gospel changes lives.

Of course the Scriptures reliable, but others I mean believers followers of Jesus. I don't know. I'm not sure seems that things at once, for sure, but I'm not anymore things I never questioned now I'm questioning a middle phone shortly, 866-348-7884 but let me give an example of something all of my studies were done in secular universities ago, a bachelors in Hebrew Queens College of my Masters and PhD in near Eastern languages and literatures at New York University. I did not study with a single professor who believe what I believe. I did not study with a single professor was a professing born-again believer in believe the Bible to be God's word the way I did not in a single class I read now some classes here and there I had with Orthodox Jews so they believe the Hebrew Bible to be God's word. But of course her perspective on Jesus was radically different. So from day one for starting with rabbis that my dad introduced me to his new believer, I was challenged about messianic prophecy and it's not accurate.

New test misinterprets the old etc. etc. them. I started college early on one of the first classes was an ancient history class, which was mistaken because I was music major and takes a liberal arts stuff before switching over to Heber so taken is ancient history class and the guy was a scholar and Acadian is ancient Babylonian. The Syrian and going through the Bible and talk about how Moses did write this, and this really did happen. That really didn't happen.

Some confronted with that early on so getting hit with all these questions so I know the questions are out there been hit with them from us 50 years right many others aren't aware of the challenges and it's only later on in life that they get hit with them so your subnets happen professor Bart Ehrman, New Testament scholar respected New Testament scholar early church specialist textural specialist so so understanding that the ancient text of the of the New Testament so and of the original copies of manuscripts and things like that so when he teaches New Testament survey. It is his university was at University of North Carolina in Raleigh respected professor there. When he teaches his classes. He is he is a skeptic. He is even a marker of certain things in terms of fundamentalist beliefs so you have these big classes of New Testament survey that'll teach and he is deconstructing his people's faith. How many of you knew that this gospel of meanness and this contradicts this this country, so it really throws people but it's it's a limited number. It is is a limited number of people that is influencing in that way and then in the scholarly world. What is the stuff we dealt with for centuries. We know the objections we know the issues but what happened with Bart Ehrman to his great surprises. When he began to write popular books on this bill of questioning Jesus questioning the authority of New Testament or the reliability of New Testament things like that. They became mega bestsellers. He became a well-known New York Times best-selling author and suddenly the general public is getting hit with the issues that in academic circles we discussed for centuries. Again, here's objections, here's the answer sorted out working out. Here the here's here's the question here's the answer. See if you feel good about the answers provided so what's happened is that a lot of the tough questions have filtered down to the general public but not the good answers, not the solid answers and because that people have lost confidence. I'm here to say there are solid answers all the questions that would raise your difficult questions and answers okay we go the phones we come back 86648788 file line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown veterans for joining us on the fiery if you are watching on YouTube. Be sure to subscribe to the channel and then click the bell that will remind you when new videos are posted. If you watch on our Facebook page. That's Oestreich Brown on Facebook or on YouTube for you like that page as well. Facebook has suppressed a lot of what many pages are doing and more difficult for content to get out but the more likes the more people we reach and will continue to reach everyone that we can to the platforms that we have everyone listening on on radio as well.

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Dr. Brown, are you going out.

Quick question about grace and mercy after standard on which I believe it will be worked with drug is correct on the building worse than right will that be made for grace and mercy anymore. I love this cursor just came across one day one is prayer yeah word gnosis is there is the need for grace… Because were shortcomings because of our sins.

So after the final judgment when we are in the eternal age we are in the new Jerusalem, with God forever and ever and ever will be no send the will be no flesh shall be no devil will be no temptation.

We won't need grace and mercy to forgive us of our sins, or for God to say, okay, you don't deserve to be here. I got you stay here if you keep messing up.

Note that would be contrary to our eternal glorified nature, but, forever and ever and ever and ever.

We will celebrate the grace and goodness of God the mercy of God, you know, maybe wake up in the morning and you just can't believe it was the cease to be a criminal. And God saved you and you got an amazing marriage and amazing kids and you look around the house like like I can't believe that this is what I have. This is my family. I don't deserve assist.

I can't believe it.

Look at what God's counsel even though the longer criminal now. Your loving your wife and love your kids you're still stunned by by the grace and goodness of God in your life so forever and ever. We will see God in his glory and in the beauty of his essence and probably every time we we look at him and tell me gaze on his beauty will be struck by something else amazing and glorious and incredible because he's infinite forever and ever and ever will be blown away at different aspects of of his person of his being at the same time, we will be eternal recipients of grace and mercy, eternally grateful, but not needing to receive grace, mercy, forgiveness in the eternal world of interesting question. Thanks for asking. It 866-34-TRUTH we go to Bowling Green, Kentucky, Laura, welcome to the line of fire. Thank you very much Dr. Brown you're welcome. I have a question hot in December 2019.

I was miraculously delivered after I forgave someone after 40 years I forgave them at laterally and at the Lord delivered me been bedbound and housebound for six years there and I would not 15 mg of oxycodone four times a day and watching the clock out in that much pain and that night he not that I'm going to get in the water and get baptized and get get it with not salvation.

Baptism. Baptism of fire and the lorded get Shawnee during the magic that out like like like arrows are hitting the heart that you got to give dispersant and I didn't even realize and think about her every day anyway. I got in the water. I forgave her ass against him and to do everything the Lord tells me to determine if they everything he tells me to say and I have the best of my ability.

That night nothing happened in the water. In particular, except that for gay and give me that night. I didn't take any pain medicine. I went to bed.

I woke up to go to the restroom at that more distant though strange. I'm not hurting and he could welcome to your new normal and then a little bit later he could show yourself so I've been doing that I've been going to meetings and all the meetings I can sharing with people and think. Forgive forgive forgive because of such a high key for me. You know, for her healing, but at what and I keep really short records with him.

Eli 55.

If something comes up. I really go to him right away that the more coming on strong I can drive again.

Praise God that have been really struggling with with pain again and in have been really active and I'm attributing it to all the other stuff. And last week I went to a different meeting and Zeno shared my story.

Matt, whatever my testimony and just inquiry on the top and get going to the meeting and praising him that I am struggling on. I'm having to use my walker again, which I haven't had to use an and you notice for strength and I use a cane and at you know all of that and I just cannot hold onto that freedom from pain, conducts Laura what what condition we suffering from.

I had going out for surgery as an adult and it just and also I fell down the stairs after the surgery and had a shattered pedicle screw and ever since then I write so this is nothing psychosomatic that these were injuries, surgery issues etc. that were known and understood. Hence the medication you are on an agreement where were you baptized was just a local church or at the North Georgia revival came to my allotted church okay yeah… I have a hunch it was it was related to that went when you share because the been many miracles all right up. Obviously there are people that seem to have a breakthrough momentarily and then it disappears and it's kind of mystifying what happened and why, but there's no question what you experienced that something supernatural happened is you know you know your body well enough right in this and to have knowledge all opt out and eat out on so much pain measure is no enthralled not benefit withdrawal before but anyway any right okay so aside from just asking the Lord and praying, if you're pushing too hard. It's the only thing I look at the schedule we have to look at this as an attack from the devil because of the importance of your testimony you sharing it, and how the devil wants you to be crippled wants you to be disable wants to be on the sidelines and and he is a decline right if you want to be quite he's a thief so number one. Aside from just say Lord is or if you want to tell me in terms of schedule just using wisdom right just aside from that, if if he doesn't give you any insight on that.

We just have to look at this as a spiritual attack and and you have to set your heart sing it in terms of your own attitude. I refuse to go backwards in Jesus name.

In other words, the devil will not win the devil will much of I will not be bedridden again. I will not be on that medicine again because God is faithful, and God is true. So this is where you confess the truthfulness of God. This is where you declare that Satan is a liar and he's lost. This is when you remind God of his promises. And he's the one that laid on your heart to forgive you for gave God's being glorified.

I would drift some solid intercessor friends. I do alright so you get them together and or just alert some circuit with it. The enemy is trying to steal and it is that simple.

Satan is trying still like to sit in a less Lord shows you just use more wisdom with your schedule. Some of that but that being aside, but let's assume that's not the case, then there is an attack and I remember when when Nancy decades ago one with the soup in the mid-80s was miraculously healed of something been a struggle for long period of time. No sooner did she stand to testify as to what happened to her when she walked back the thing hit and then it'll just came back immediately and then she believed God, and then it's like a left halfway and then it left completely and then left. But it was a test and this this for whatever reason these things happen just like any breakthrough in your in an area spiritually of victory in and then you get tempted pull back. So this will really do. I pray with you right now in Jesus name and the authority of the Lord, trusting his faithfulness that this is an attack from Satan that everything is an attack from Satan, but I really believe this is those that are people of faith and prayer will join together right now. So we got our prayer Army pray for you right now and and then Laura I want you let us know the victory that comes because I'm trusting God with you. The car going backwards, but forward.

So father in the name of Jesus, by the authority of your son I rebuke this attack on your daughter.

This woman, who is your child freed and cleansed of the blood of Jesus and forgive it. We say no more to the attack of pain to the disability to the weakness no more thriving healing, strength for life.

Jesus name will be right back here on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution of your again is Dr. Michael Brown I never heard of Tracy Lambrecht's war spread about her in an article online. Moments ago she was New Zealand Olympian in 2016 weightlifter and head for New Zealand weightlifters female weightlifters in her weight class have all the records on one weekend.

They've all been broken. Coats told her they've all been broken. Why is a man now identifies as Laurel Hubbard, a male body a male weightlifter who is now lifting as a woman broke all his records. This is some of the madness that continues to come our way. In our society. The social madness.

The gender madness that must be oppose that that will be opposed.

Society will only go so far before it wakes up to certain realities. This the price will be paid. In the meantime, I prefer Laurel Hubbard to find wholeness is the man that God created him to be homeless in the Lord, the homeless mentally, psychologically, in every other way. But now he is going to be competing in the Olympics. Of course, that also means that the woman that would've been on the team bless one on team gets excluded so works hard for many many years to get to the level of Olympic athletes always involve the sacrifice involved that that she doesn't make it because a guy older guy much bigger person than the other ladies he makes it because he's a male computing is the females the pushback will continue. By the way, if you haven't read my latest article about Aesop's fables and defunding the police. It's open the website asked Dr. Brown.org Cascade your Brown dog Lord also got some recent articles about the pride of the things that that's me to check them out. 866-34-TRUTH the number to call the website asked Dr. Brown.org before I go to the phones I want to say this when people struggle with their faith. When people are asking deep questions. Not sure if God is real, not sure if they can trust the Bible, not sure if there will be saved if there is such a thing as salvation.

Not sure if what they believe is is real or not. You may not have gone through what they've gone through and it may sound silly to like. Please believe we greeted it. Of course, God's good, of course, the Bible is true, but this I can help that person. The person is not sure if God is real. If you come you just need more faith there to think so.

The whole thing is just it's the game it's a myth. It's just you keep psyching yourself up. Maybe the question strike you serious, but you don't have the answers when they start raising the questions to you. You start to wonder what about this. What about that may be there.

Questions are really a city value got us drawback for maximum-security what I want to encourage you to do is first be as empathetic as you can. I've sat with people and and they're about to tell me a heavy situation in their life and right at that moment I'm not there, my mind somewhere else.

I would rather not be sitting and talking at that moment and I I will stop and say, God give me focus and God give me empathy. God give me understanding.

So at the very least friends.

It could be your your 13-year-old kid coming to with the question you never thought they'd ask or tell me some you'd never thought they tell you it could be coming from someone that you know your friend. Yours is off our youth pastor now questioning whether whether the Bible is true it it could cover many unexpected angle but the very least let that person know I'm listening and I care even if you think and I can't relate to this at all, but I can relate to you. I care about you. Let them know that you're giving a real listening ear and that if they want to go on a journey with you and discover things that you want to journey you could say I I've never thought about that and a and I don't I don't have the first idea if you were to go for an answer, but I feel confident that there are answers there so that let's let's stick together or or limit.

Let me do some digging in and get back to you or just tell someone. Maybe they're hurting that their believer, but they're hurting what my friends a pastor was making the first call as a pastor to it to a home of grieving people, family member, just die and he had to go over the whole way he's praying particularly say what audit words how I said they walked in the door realized previously to hug Bruce Lee did a shoulder to cry right now and somehow that pastor brings a sense of security and faith in the existing to hold them didn't say anything. Sometimes you just need to be there to have a shoulder to cry, let someone know I really care in your name. Try to answer the question because it's just not time for just as I can imagine how this hurts. Love you. You're not alone here you don't limit your there and then from there you pray for them.

You can work through some of the issues. Some of the problems.

Okay, back to the phones we go to Sean in Knightdale North Carolina. Thanks for holding welcome to the line of fire, a really work our artwork by a middle reliever radio talk about God order nobody would come come come out like all. You get things like people are dedicated to what else were built by light completely. A lot of people know completely what would be there.

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Whether it be what W believe you got: owning the world nowadays. It really does thing like people help, but maybe it is not all right, but if they like people help really really all ready anything biblical. Our help really dedicated to or crop your yeah, the people ever particularly I meet a lot of people like that you will like life to be only like 25 what you know now what does show that the distractions are super real. We we've never been this distracted a society and it was the constant pole and the constant bombardment and a lot of stuff is coming from one direction. If you're taking that in this, it's going to kinda reprogram your thinking. So just think of this, let's say you never really questioned the Bible before you never really questioned whether it was truly disbelieved, disbelieved, and now suddenly for the first time you start question and then just as suddenly you start discovering website after website YouTube video after YouTube video and tick-tock canopy tick-tock account questioning the Bible and attacking the Bible is like new. So all the bad stuff so the rises bad experiences in church prayers that were answered like and and then once you cast off morality and and and biblical standards. You have the screen but it's a carnal freedom Center freedom that liberates on the inside but it feels like I'm free. I do whatever I want.

But all you're doing is putting yourself in deeper chains, but it's it again. It's a perfect storm is all the stuff swirling at the same time, because of which many are turning away and then giving themselves zealously wrong because it's made me the Lord bring them back and we can speak light.

Sean, thank you for the call. I appreciate 866-34-TRUTH, let's go to Jay in St. Louis, Missouri. Welcome to the line of fire. Good afternoon Dr. Brown thank you so much critic Michael you are very welcome.

So I wanted her trunk on your main overarching topic today and focus on the new atheism. About a year and 1/2 ago.

God took me to YouTube and I I discovered a lot of the content on there and it feels like there's a subset of new atheism. It seems to have arisen called Street epistemology. I'm not sure if you're familiar. There nothing specific terms.

No but I'm sure the content the go ahead yet. So basically your approach where they may kinda bring up the emotional side of faith and it seems like a lot of the argument by feeling YouTube really do revolve around emotional type objections like God doesn't really give you a real choice between him and hell Old Testament atrocities divine, hidden it, things like that. Not being miracles that are real and one of things I wanted to ask you was you know I feel like it's expanding a lot because of an emotional component of the lot a few fees to be kind of an intellectual engineering type mindset thing up but now they're appealing to the masses with these emotional arguments and you could you would couplers like at least one of them, like I thought one of the guys have a channel very popular and you to and he took a message from a pastor talking about God gives you a choice between him because he want to give you a free choice by his whole argument was that not a real choice because the other option is hell. That's like you pushing someone by fear and things like that so could you address.

You absolutely yeah that was absolutely and yes atheists in the past did raise various arguments in an did attack the God of the Old Testament or things like that a racist use of hell, but you are right. It tended to be more of a philosophical intellectual argument. The new atheism is been more aggressive and often more a motion based, but these things must be dealt with. The buttons are rightly pushed so in my book. My new book has God failed to have two chapters, especially deal with objections to to the God of the Bible or the God of the Old Testament. So to all chapters and has God failed to that I do address the problem of evil and suffering, but what I would first ask is unless someone Re: Re: would you rather exist or not exist is in most everyone wants to exist as was they take their own was right. So overwhelmingly people want to exist.

Next question.

If I could push a button and you'd be just no sickness, the pain happy the rest your life. But it's all program. You cannot ever make a choice again. The people want freedom they they want freedom to us to determine their their course so if God creates a world like that.

Were we exist of your freedom. Then there is discovery problems I might hurt you. You might hurt me, you might hurt your kids that way ever so freedom has consequences. The question is this real freedom on the choices you the love God or burn forever. How is that freedom so I'll address that Peninsula breaks the regular it's the light of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643.

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Only if you listening on WTO P or brand-new station in Toledo. Okay so JI would then say to someone so you prize your existence and your price your freedom and we agree that these are necessary ingredients. If there's going to be a human race would be able to make choices and determine our destiny and rather than debate the nature of hell or eternal conscious torment through being tortured forever look at it like this, God is going to give you what you choose. If you choose to be with him forever. You will get that if you choose to reject him, you forfeit that forever. It is that simple. So rather than debate the nature of hell. The nature of eternal punishment.

And this is like Dante's Inferno unit is nosed people roasting you flip them over. Most of us on foot back over his is that a caricature is it that people will be utterly destroyed. So those they ceased to exist at a certain point, is it rather than debate that because that's that's the point I would say look, it's what CS Lewis says if if you tell people I don't want God away from me than he will say find that your choice and in stillness I can guarantee this, you will forfeit eternal life if you don't want to be with him. You won't be with. It's that simple and will there be judgment for sin if you violate God's good laws should there be punishment.

Should there be punishment for violating good laws. Of course dislike in this world. So if we have violated God's laws.

He will deal with us justly. That's a choice we make right to do this or consequences. Like anything in this world, but the fact is God says underpay for missing your recommended that we preach the gospel underpay person you committed every evil deed. Every wrong thing, read, and you have the pay for my sons to pay for and you can have eternal life and enjoy blessing and goodness forever and ever and ever. If you receive me and follow me. If we say no to that, then we are forfeiting eternal life or forfeiting eternal blessing and in use at the very least, Scripture says should be cut off that that it's over for you so it's not a matter of God dangling you over hell and saying believe in my love or torture you forever. Though it's God saying I made you, I'm your creator accountable to me but I really give you an offer you can be with me forever and I want to pay for the wrong DJ redid and you will have joy and purpose and meaning beyond anything ever conceive or you can refuse me as you want and forfeit all that.

That's the way out I would present that as far as the God of the Old Testament again. I get into that in depth and has God failed you.

But what I would indicate is that God waited over 400 years. According to Genesis 15, even though it made his own people suffer slavery in Egypt for protracted time. He waited 400 years until the level of wickedness of the Canaanites was such that God said okay now you can drive them out and burning their own children in the fire and committing all types of atrocities and horrific things waited that long.

So look at it like this if if the inhabitants of Canaan were like ISIS terrorists to to drive them out or to wipe them out was actually doing a good thing, especially when they refuse to repent. That's how I would approach these there are solid answers we need to know the the right ways to answer them as well.

Thank you sir for the call of it. We got time for a couple more calls let's go to Joseph in oh I'm sorry I've been given its WTO D sorry about that in Toledo.

Of course there is the deep WTO D Betty OP get that Ross if you're listening on WTO D in Toledo look to give your free copy of has God failed his give us a call at 866-34-TRUTH Joseph in Stevenson Ranch. Thanks for holding welcome to light a fire just is not there. I guess he held as long as he could hold out we will go to Cecelia in New York City. Welcome to the line of fire, where there welcome McCracken. I enjoy my Bible study.

I find I like my finger dockable corpsman on your video. I enjoy your debate. From the moment I get up correctly. I cannot let myself awake know the Bible] the Bible you know like I fill up that by number asked me to 1080 P3 church here in New York City. I feel comfortable not because it Pentecostal or evangelical church. I just don't feel oak very own or your electric Adecco E repent today, but would you feel about that kind of church right so I don't know the pastors of the group personally. But let us if you things just little bit that I that I do know in terms of maybe unconventional ways of meetings. It's perfectly fine if your meeting in a house review meeting in a building. It's it's perfectly fine if you meeting on a Sunday morning on a Thursday night. In other words, the, the physical location is not the issue, and that the time or day of the meeting is not the issue. The key thing is that believers are gathering together and it's usually a good structure spiritual authorities that there is oversight there is this pastoral leadership and oversight either trickles down into meetings and houses or comes from a central pulpit but the key thing is we are called by God to gather together right in Hebrews 10.

The most famous passage exhorting us to to not forsake something together so we need to be part of the fellowship part of the body joining together with others we are sharpened by them. We grow by them. We offer things to them that bless and help them and then together in the family settings were made for relationships. We can better serve our communities and make an impact.

Now that may be what looks like a traditional church the Sunday morning service and your weekly Bible study. It may be something that meets every morning for prayer may be something that meets and in houses so all that is is secondary. If this church has an unconventional way of doing things that suck Israel all the issue is. It is what it is what is being taught and preached biblical so that's that's really have to really see do I agree with the main emphases do I do I believe that the Bible is being held up as God's authority to. I believe that the Jesus is clearly being preached is Lord over their calls for repentance is an encouragement to live holy lives. Is there an emphasis on God's grace and mercy to transform us. Is there a desire to reach the lost are you know it if if those were the things that were being emphasized.

That would be wonderful if you felt called to be part of that. If you're uncomfortable with some of the doctrine and the fact that you are you listen to folks like me and Pastor Mike Wenger and others.

You can use in our teaching and evaluate, compare, if your home with what were saying and find to be biblical so that the nature of the meetings in a meeting and houses, dinner parties, whatever. That's of the issue. The issue is what's being taught, and is the good pastoral oversight is just people get together or is there something real decided to make disciples to grow people in the Lord and to have them reach the community around those of the things I evaluate and get if you find it to be a popular success in life, prosperity, emphasis come to Jesus and you'll get no wealthy and and come to Jesus and you'll be really cool and less of the gospel. Obviously, if there's no emphasis on repentance or holiness that would concern me but other otherwise I don't know more about the church than just you know how they meet and who the founders were etc. so Ms. May the Lord give you wisdom from there. Or are you part of a church fellowship. Cecelia, my friend and talk about the Bible because I don't want go back to the Catholic Church got excited like everyone want to have you have ever visited the Times Square Church in New York City not happen, or can I encourage you to do it it's it's of a new pastor now took over for for Pastor Carter, and and then before that tested Wilkerson from like 91 to 95. I preach there, oh 4050 times and you will have a wonderful time of of spiritual worship. A wonderful time. Absolutely of spiritual worship and you will hear a solid message from the Scriptures each week, but I encourage you to be part of a fellowship where your part of the family and there is the spiritual oversight and your growing and then you can contribute and things like that. Also check out Times Square Church since you live in New York City but there there are many fine churches in the city. I just can't say more but the when just about hey Jason from Toledo, Ohio.

Welcome to our spiritual family. Hope you get to listen regularly.

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