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36 Years and counting: AIDS in America

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Once again, terror has stopped in Great Britain, this time in London. Seven.

Her dad, dozens wounded will have the latest just ahead. It's 36 years and counting. Since health officials first reported the outbreak of the disease we know as aides that much progress has been made in fighting it. Complacency among the new generation may be undermining the effort as Rita braver will report in our cover story and then it's on to the golden boys some familiar even beloved entertainers who never got that memo to retire. They'll be talking shop this morning with our Tracy Smith, Carl Reiner, Dick Van Dyke Norman Lear still funny after all these years and still working well into their 90s. There's something about hitting 90. I know I can get closer send legends rather inspired than retired coming up on a morning summer song is ahead for us this morning from Pink Floyd cofounder Roger Waters. Looking back, had with Anthony Mason from the dark side of the moon to the wall. Lloyd, the boundaries of music and the man at the center of Roger Waters is pushing himself one more time, emotional doing this but ongoing Sunday morning. One more tool Roger row row row your boat is just one way to win the competition. Luke Burbank will tell us about.

There's no race on land or sea. That is weird or wilder than the race to Alaska tides run really fast the wind howls 700 mile boat race with only one rule no motors moving the ability for you to depend on a little button that starts a motor. It changes your relationship to the water later on Sunday morning we go against the tide towards honoring the best on Broadway. I just one week from today. This morning Veronica goes backstage with a nominated actress who's helping to update a classic drama catering to give me mine, Henry Gibson's landmark play a dolls house. Stunned audiences when it opened in 1879, now almost 140 years later, there have been other then several after you. I've had lovers. I like I kept on telling people to write a sequel to a dolls house just because it sounds audacious to do that actress Laurie Metcalf and the story behind Park to later on Sunday morning. Alex Wagoner shares a boundary breaking paintings of Kerry James Marshall Steve Hartman takes his seat with a 99-year-old ballpark usher faith. Salie expounds on the! And more work featuring radio and TV personalities talking sports team and played 36 and counting how many years have passed since aides first caught the attention of public health officials though modern medicine has done much to control the disease. The battle is far from over.

Our cover story as reported by Rita braver 31-year-old Dean Harris Mars maybe strikes up a new relationship he has own level of confidence it wouldn't have been possible just a few years ago. I don't want to sound cynical but I don't have to trust somebody 100% because I know for myself and protected.

That's because Karen's who is HIV negative, begins his day with short for preexposure prophylaxis which reduces the risk of transmission of HIV by more than 90% generation or common use was 100% that was safe sex and safe sex that used a condom and now you can kind of rule that level of protection.

Should you want to and know that you're not Karen's who gets a checkup every three months.

Says he's well aware of how much is happened since June 2019 one.

That's when an infectious disease researcher at the National Institutes of Health first started noticing reports clusters of young gay men were being diagnosed with highly unusual infections became clear to me that even though we did not know what this was almost certainly was a sexually transmitted infection.

It would take a few years before Dr. Anthony Fauci and colleagues in the international medical community would identify HIV, which left unchecked can develop into the deadly syndrome known as aides, which destroys the human body's resistance to infections. We saw that it was contained in the Siemens contained Lord doctors learned that HIV could be transmitted through blood transfusions and that women can get HIV and pass along to babies in the womb or through breast milk, intravenous drug users who share needles are also at high risk. HIV is most often transmitted sex between men quickly. A lot of myths began to spread. I remember when people said you could get it from touching someone if it was perspiration on their arm could get it from breathing air that hugging someone casual contact goal. Even though the overwhelming evidence indicated that that was not the case, there was still people who were propagating goals goes on for caring the board's saying you don't have any idea what's wrong with so many doctors and nobody knows what's wrong. Many heart moments like perhaps no one expressed the anguish of the AIDS better than New York writer Larry Kramer. This is a national emergency. This is an epidemic in supply as documented in his tone and Emmy award-winning work normal heart HIV positive himself became enraged at behavior in the gay community because all this business about. I don't want to use a condom will sorry for that's no but he was even more angry at the federal pharmacy industry, founding the protest group called to demand quicker action on developing prevention drugs through sick people scared people so I I noticed we do. One person who felt Kramer's fury was NIH Dr. Anthony Fauci who acknowledges ops contribution to the scientific facts start speeding up the trials and being less rigid and what they did before they would bring a drug to market. We loosen some of the restrictions, but we never compromised our core fundamental scientific principles, and that was I think a great victory of victory for the activists victory for the sciences quickly so they can do things better without being so restrictive.

Scientist are expected to announce tomorrow proposals for expanded use of antiviral drug which has shown before significant progress against age in 1987 AZT.

The first medication slow the progress of HIV and reduce the risk of developing into aides was up who researchers stress that it is not a cure, nor does it work in every case but it is the first significant progress in the battle against date and over the years, a stream of drugs approved treatment and length in lives. There are now more than a million Americans living with HIV. The rate of infection in the United States has decreased from some 130,000 new cases per year in 1985 to about 40,000 in 2015. Larry Kramer never expected to live to 82 but she remains bitter.

I'm not grateful for having lost hundreds of friends, never for amount grateful that the people's to leaving many of us lives in us. We got into this relaxing their sense of responsibility having unsafe sex.

Because of this prep stuff which is helpful as an excuse of the crazy Six Flags disco days AIDS prevention and treatment. Drugs can be expensive, and though there are programs that provide them. Not everyone has access to them. The rate of new HIV cases tends to be higher in the African-American and Latino communities 22-year-old Pedro Rios was diagnosed with HIV just went 1/2 months ago. Are you willing to take chances because you were young and you thought could happen to you.

I was deathly at that stage of like I've never had Annecy before so a sexually transmitted disease before the first one I got was obviously HIV but he says the news was not distressing to him very much okay I accepted so expects where he now takes one pill a day in a clinical trial but Rios will probably be on medication for the rest of his life. And after 36 years, Anthony Fauci is still searching for both a vaccine and a cure.

We still have a long way to go.

Really need to do is to essentially put the nail in the coffin of this disease and we are not there yet. And when we get casual about soon that well 36 years and counting coming out shopping carts on a roll now page from our Sunday morning on June 4, 1937. 80 years ago today. The day the light silver Goldman made history as our old friend Charles Kuralt once put it changed everything was invented shopping cart. Silver Goldman rolled out that first shopping cart at his Humpty Dumpty supermarket chain in Oklahoma City.

The rest as they say, is history.

Shopping well that unlikely poor thanks to silver Goldman shopping cart familiar part of American life and virtually the first means of transportation for generations of American children. Not to mention the subject of nature on in the 1983 film Mr. mom, starring Michael Keith right away so the car has also an irresistible temptation for daredevils such as the cast of the MTV show jackass. Needless to say, do not try this at home or anywhere else all supermarket now showing a variety of techniques to help make that happen. Paintings by Kerry James Marshall on display and an exhibit that's traveling the nation.

The works of an artist who wants to view the world with Elias Alex Wagoner is our guide, Kerry James Marshall is changing the face of American Art, my duck into artist.

It was like everybody else see it artist book that has worked by Rembrandt and Michelangelo. Yes, these things are great but I don't see a reflection of myself in any of these things will so for decades now. Marshall has been working on that reflection's figures aren't just black. They are jet black bold proud undeniably black and he wants to fill museums with them that bodywork has reached critical mass so that it's no longer an exception to see things like that. You can't have one picture of a black person like you got have a lot of his trademark style has catapulted him into the stratosphere of the art world 72 of his paintings were shown at New York's Metropolitan Museum earlier this year that exhibit a retrospective originated in Chicago. It's now at the Museum of contemporary Art in Los Angeles where anything Kerry James Marshall fits in the Canon Helen Molesworth is the curator firmly inside of it. The pictures are very much of our moment of our time and I do think that museums historically are incredibly white places to walk into an art exhibition in which the figures are all black.

It's really revelatory born 62 years ago in Birmingham, Alabama, Kerry James Marshall was eight when the KKK bombed the Baptist Church, killing four girls would go on to live in Los Angeles during the Watts riots and later Harlem. Now Chicago's South side. All those things are shaping the person inescapable those are a small fraction of the kind of experience you his works deal with grief, injustice and loss but also every day life swimming pools and beauty salons, daily rituals and quiet moments, a window into a world often ignored in fine art times in your paintings. Whether it's a couple getting ready for bed or whether at the picnic scene when you paint those images. Are you thinking of specific memories or people. Well, I think.

I'm thinking in more generalized terms, but a lot of the things I'm thinking about a reflection of expenses. I have myself.

Experiences like visits to a barbershop. The painting is called this style think our stereotypical image of black men has been predominantly one of criminality and I think what we are being shown here is actually tenderness, stylishness, togetherness of brotherhood marshals work is filled with references to both art and American history. I think some people will look at this in LC mayonnaise luncheon on the grass. Yes layers to each Kerry James Marshall painting and if you do know contemporary art.

They are going to be realizing how he's doing something really interesting. He's putting these moments of abstract painting in a realist picture. His vision has paid off.

Marshall's work has received rave reviews. He even made times list of most influential people of 2017 and his latest work seems to be exploring new ways to depict the world as he sees it.

We were in a studio painting white fingers. I know how full is that what you are quick to aid in well one of the reasons I know both in my heart belly in mind that Kerry James Marshall is a great artist is because he continues to surprise me.

It's the first painting that has white people in it and I don't know what it means. Yet the pictures and finished but to me that indicates a challenge that he saw himself an artist intent on breaking the mold. Even his own. What happens now evolving well but it has everything to do with whether you working because process itself is a means of exploring I'm interested in that lot worked a lot still to come. Some golden oldies but first Laurie Metcalf on Broadway featuring radio and TV personalities.

Talking business support team and played with more Metcalf for getting laughs on TVs Roseann.

Now she's on Broadway nominated for a Tony next Sunday's big ceremony she's starring in a play that has a very famous prequel is Moroccan now shows us as I am leading you as I understand it is. It's all promoted up dictation towards when last we left off with Nora Helmer in Henry Gibson's 1879 landmark drama a dolls house. She had had an awakening catering back in line as seen in this film adaptation. She was no longer content playing wife and mother, but she needed to find out who she was and so she walked out that door, leaving her husband and her young children but her story didn't end there. Nora is back in a dolls house to yes there is Nora set 15 years later, but written almost 140 years after the original where did you get the idea to do a sequel to a dolls house started with the title.

The title of the piece of paper laugh. Nathan wrote part two currently playing on Broadway. I kept on telling people to write a sequel to a dolls house just because it sounds audacious to scald a dolls house cartoon ice was part two I don't know what this writer is imagining that he has the nerve to call his player part two. Just so you know there have been other men. Several after you. I've had lovers like Laurie Metcalf plays Nora but I thought but it's probably got some guts to it. But the fact that he chose to title it that way and probably has some humor to it you've ever wanted to get married again. No, not even the possibility Nora, I have killed that for me.

She's right, unlikely as it sounds for a play about a broken family.

There's humor in almost every scene. Of course, right now I feel angry, even intense marital fights like this one between Nora and her estranged husband for bald, played by Chris Cooper the words you use to describe them is constipated that coming out of this character's mouth is in this. Because human in the corset, you know, it's just so funny funny is no surprise coming from morning Metcalf you probably know best from the 1990s, Roseann bring a pot sister Jackie, you're doing it all, but Metcalf was dead serious when it came to acting in a dolls house, part two, and wrestling with the famously complicated character who made a still controversial decision to leave her family in this scene, she and her daughter Annie played by control of her shot confront that decision together actually think a lot of the way things turned out better because they weren't around better life because of it.

I have a lot more difficult truth about life at an earlier age than you usually have to deal with growing up at the usual life. I feel special to wrap your head around your acting this yes when I'm acting it and to this day it's hard for anybody to wrap their head around it, let alone in 1879 when it happened and audiences were so jarred that that that whole you know countries would even produce but still really hard to wrap your head around. She closed the door behind her, not knowing if she could even survive spoiler alert. Not only has Nora survived.

She's now a very successful writer, playwright, Lucas Nathan, take me through the different scenarios you considered for what happened to Nora after that door slam overwhelmingly.

People thought she either died. Went to work in a factory and died became a prostitute died like it just small dismal ends for her once I started hearing from people what they expected. All I knew is I had to do the opposite of that. I had like she'd walk in the door cheaply doing absolutely right to honor original playwright Henry Gibson's heritage.

I met TONY award nominees for the Nordic restaurant in New York City and we gabbed over crosswalks is working on this play enlightens you about what makes a marriage work. What's makes a marriage not work for Oscar-winner Chris Cooper, the secret to his marriage was an early litmus test back when he was a struggling actor, New York. I was a co-was a carpenter toolbox on wheels. A big job ahead in New York.

My wife helped me take 4 x 8 sheets of sheet rock update flights of steps and those like that us is more girl that's a good definition of what makes a marriage work. You laughed but making a marriage work was not Nora's top priority in 1879 when she returns 15 years later. She isn't exactly greeted warmly when I think back on what happened.

I think to myself that I have one regret I wish I left you, Nora comes breezing back home to get something and not realizing I think a lot of the damage that has been done in the 15 years. Each person gets to take their punches at Nora and they all get to say this is what you did when you left the man played by Tony winner Jean how Michelle takes her wax your weaponry euro euro child raising my it's one of those arguments that really pushes back to having made the decision to leave if you'd like to talk about that Lucas Nathan.

Okay, let's talk about that that sort of heated confrontation is essential on stage and all this is the kind of play that I think a lot of people leave arguing about.

Yes, that makes me happy. What I want more argument to spend an evening during these long arguments you could catch is you go home hopefully and start making your own case for why you think how the cookie crumbles next time. Now for some updates and we began with these cookies which help from Wisconsin, where as we reported in a story back in April.

State law bans the sale for profit of homemade treats extensively for health and safety reasons. Well this past week I judge ruled against Outlaw saying it violates the Wisconsin Constitution, the state is considering an appeal. So until that's settled, our homemakers still will be selling these very delicious cookies. We received a pointed critique of our Sunday morning almanac last week from Francis Gary Powers Junior, son of the U-2 spy plane pilot who was shot down and captured by the Soviets in 1960 in our almanac we heard James Bond author Ian Fleming rather lightheartedly suggest his fictional hero would've taken a poison pill rather than allow himself to be captured as the younger Mr. Powers rightly points out U-2 spy plane pilots were not obliged to take their own lives. In the event of capture. He also rightly points out, his father, who was released in 1962 and who died in 1977 was awarded several metals posthumously, including the Silver Star, the military's third highest honor in 2012. The citation says in part that Francis Gary Powers exhibited quote indomitable spirit, exceptional loyalty and continuous heroic actions and finally something new. You may have noticed that earlier in the morning we showed you this week's New York Times bestseller list. Lots of our viewers like to read.

So with our thanks to the times we plan to continue showing you the nation's top-selling books every Sunday morning and will be right back row row row your boat are more than the words to a children's song they could be the key to victory in a race that starts this Thursday on the theory that the past. Maybe prologue Burbank takes us back one year.

It's a Wednesday afternoon in Port Townsend, Washington just hours before the annual race to Alaska get started and sailors like Matt Johnson are nervously making final adjustments, while cocaptains get a final briefing of sorts to take the challenge. Make it your greatest living your life will and what a challenge it is a race to Alaska is one of the more unusual punishing events and Americans a grueling 750 mile boat race from Port Townsend to Ketchikan, Alaska with just one rule no motors.

So with an early piece of code is truly one of the last and wildest places on earth.

And this is from the guy behind the race, Jake beating the tides run really fast the wind howls.

And when you win against the sea becomes incredibly angry and dangerous.

Last year, some 200 sailors entered the race some in rowboats and paddle boats, others in high-tech carbon fiber catamarans, not to mention homemade dinghies sales. Some people raised in teams while others went to the loan, you win the argument, 101 of the biggest challenges as Thomas Nielsen learned firsthand, is figuring out how to get some semblance of sleep while out on the water and food is another problem looking along and sometimes forcing yourself to even eat. We've been really trying to shovel the food down the truth. Surprisingly not buddies the hunger enjoyment of the ritual is kind of disappeared and maybe the top.

The struggle of all, at least the sailboats is what to do when the wind isn't blowing. I was like oh you know, we might do 10 hours of rowing and throughout the whole trip and we been doing about 16 hours a day.

Race founder Jake beating moving the ability for you to and a little button that starts motor it changes your relationship to the water when there is no get out of jail free card and no funds for Matt Johnson who may have made the biggest sacrifice of the entire race before it even started your one Johnson a competitive cyclist redirected that money to pay for the singleseat pedal powered boat that he worked on for months in his garage so you do not expect to win this race with your boat. I don't expect that some might ask why do it because I want to see how far I can go or how fast I can go.

As it turned out not that far.

Johnson broke a pontoon just minutes into the race and had to turn back but he wasn't alone walking one point almost half the teams never even made it to Alaska and those that did endured pungent weeks at sea, but there are moments of beauty out there with the dolphins and whales. This crew team mad dog didn't have time to take in all that scenery, though they sailed day and night for four straight days sleeping 20 minute shifts and winning in record time.

Their prize $10,000 barely enough to tow the boat home from Alaska. Second prize, and were not getting here is a set of steak knives or despite the dangers no one has died in the race yet, but limits have been and will be pushed and then broken which is just how race founder Jake likes I've never met a more powerful to see and I'm excited for more people to serve crucible moments out there in the water for those looking for a guaranteed crucible moment this year's race starts Thursday morning in Port Townsend. No motors allowed coming up. Please be seated to BCs head is usually no big deal unless you're finding your seat at the stadium, Steve Hartman's been to baseball stars can put seats but only fill cooling leaves first surround 99. He still working at the Pittsburgh seating people in sweltering climbing up and down stairs that would hospitalize most any other will not work. I carry a do. The reason I carry a it gets me of front seat on the bus.

Phil grew up near the old forms field in Pittsburgh back when Babe Ruth at the last home run of his career over this wall. Phil was one of the kids ran after the ball becoming Osher was simply a rite of passage. Every could do for you to not fill, he still 81 years later course, he did have a day job as a machinist you also took time off to save the world, and 41 Matt it's been this still look forward to coming to work. Oh yeah, what you like about it the people I get more hugs and kisses and I regard my life. Success means climbing the left always doing something something good point has a gift for finding joy in the same place he found it yesterday, I saw that most clearly during the national and probably heard that song. 10,000. Yet when he was moved to tears. People in happiness and hard work you what the secret what you know. Just follow the network featuring radio and TV personalities talking sports team and played it Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane Hawley van Dyck and Carl Reiner were a team made in heaven on the Dick van Dyck show these days, together with her pal Norman Lear. They constitute a team of golden boys yes no less amusing. What's funny. Tracy Smith is here to Thomas 1.1 no parables slogging through row and I was a kid with a grown close okay I'll admit intimidating three legends all together in one room I Carl Reiner's Beverly Hills still collaborating and still close, you will clearly have known each other a long time say a few words about the guy sitting next to you as soon creative drive as big as I recall, found before the series, you should, and normative permit in movies and specials and visualize without them. I don't know what fun we wouldn't talk.

Norman Lear will be 95 in July.

Carl Reiner is 95 Dick van Dyck is 91.

There something about 90 hitting 90. I know I can get applause.

Just send it ovation.

Their older sure they just don't think old culture is all wrong. Culture cells age as me going down the expression going down. He woke up this morning to come here really great.

I woke up this morning with no more afraid of aging and need to tell them as long as you take it so nobody will in their new film does just that. The ball's latest elevation of life after 90 in the HBO documentary film if you're not in the obit breakfast debuting tomorrow on HBO.

That title is based on a joke, Carl Reiner told us in 2015 first morning for coffee review boots seriously. Yes, if a mother breakfast. These folks say there are keys to longevity, but no big secrets. If you could boil it down to one thing. To what do you owe your long life attitude of lack of strips will have most of us are going I will not uptight people think lack of body was the right one. I explained the several they all say laughter is important you walk every day. Yes I walk around the block. One time, and also a little workout.

Mr. Reiner likes to walk around the neighborhood and every morning before his feet touch the floor. He does stretches like a circus performer I was doing today because I was late when extra members of my structure as he showed morocco last year. Esther Lear also likes a good stretch and as you can see in the recent music video for the band decibel revival. Mr. Van Dyke's Boulevard by 10 o'clock. Jim will just go.

The youngster says his wife Arlene who he married in 2012 helps keep his heart in shape and define a good life. You have to have someone that you really must love a person. I love the thing you're doing world helps to have a good marriage and children a good life is what you send out to the world.

I have three children, non-toxic children have done great things are not continuing to do great things in marriage of 65 years. That's the only thing that the fund really defined. Estelle Reiner passed away in 2008, 94, these days, lifelong friend Mel Brooks turns 91 this month keeps Carl company. If you have one good friend. Your lucky Mel comes over. Know what I would do you think about the wolf for one quote I don't drive anymore and he still gets out like this HBO event a few weeks ago you could give advice to people out there. What's the best advice you can give folks do something you will be living a life support if required. Desperation people jobs to go to this by seven you and that's something they all seem to live by more than five decades after Mary Poppins, Dick van Dyck will be in the 2018 SQL Mary Poppins with time 19 five Norman Lear developed one data time for CBS. Now the shows been reimagined for Netflix stars like Marina and Executive Producer making people laugh never get behind an audience thousands of times is when they really laugh and have a tendency to monitor seats and I've never seen a more spiritual than that then you know everybody together on what is effective for you when you know that you are the source of that.

I and Carl Reiner is probably writing as we speak. His latest title says it all too busy to die. Think about the end know I think about how I would like to go like to go to sleep when you show this would be if I was talking decide if there's any real secret to a long and happy life. It may be just keep looking ahead, there are two little words were known for good enough about over and that's when something is over snow. This is the moment if you get up for you get up you will drive you won't gonna know about if you have something in the morning. Got to do. So here's to what's next face really gets to the point! Next up is contributor faith say like because I wrote what I'm saying with a bunch of! Are everywhere.

More than ever notice your emails and text the ones you receive or compose our enthusiasm are about it in my entire 18 years is ever used!

In an academic paper using an 80% of my business people pepper their memos with them. Pal tells me part of her onboarding processes to assembly into the exclamation culture of her new colleagues and friends report their students are reading. So in conclusion times are sometimes exclamation while tax basis of any school talking on the phone or meeting in person situations in which our voice reveals our true meaning we communicate by typing text, email, social posted emotional nuance we resort to extreme punctuation to suggest or or imagine ending an email like this. Thanks because you're not a cold-blooded monster you are human being. Exclamation the new normal study found that ending periods are perceived as less fear than does ending with. I mean. More than once a month, which is something we could all use nowadays some of you will exclaim, none of this matters. And you're right ending because of exclamation overpopulation, but if we took down a notch meeting urgent saved exclamation points for winning a spot one vowed to limit myself to one exclamation per exchange. Thanks for listening. I mean, thanks my cofounder will the wall is one of many hits from Roger Waters, cofounder of the legendary band Pink Floyd not content with the summer song is launched an entire tour and tells our Anthony Mason all about it for much of May Roger Waters stage crew was setting up his new show will working out the staging in a vacant arena in the New Jersey Meadowlands.

Basically a 20,000 seat arena just to rehearse waters last an epic reduction of the Wall Clock Opera Rd., Van Flores after taking him nearly half of billion dollars highest grossing for solo in history is new show another spectacle scale is even more complex and picked off last week in Sioux City and made 73-year-old musicians last. This is the list is simply a matter of time waters 50 years would release their debut well waters formed the band in college Cambridge friends and fellow architecture students. Mason and Rick Wright Barrett, the band's creative force soon had a mental so falls just just some totes in the UK suddenly the guy wrote all the songs dissipated was lost for what we will of course what you do is everybody who can stop trying to write because if you don't Waters emerge as the band's main songwriter force rocks most influential album in 1973's dark side of the moon which 14 years on the chart in 1979 the wall selling out all alienation in the walls like little wall was rising within waters and guitarist David Gilmore battled for control in 1985 in rock history waters walked away. This ability sounds like this is destroyed, something that is precious to them.

I guess I can understand it to.

To some extent, but I regret while the other members continued on as Pink Floyd waters went out on his own. I was doing gigs 4000 seat arenas to 1500 people with learning to seven 2004. Same songs bring all my songs about and that was some very hurtful very character for me. The bass player suddenly had to come out of the shadows.

I was so scared was just terrified, but we are terrified of failure being found what we afraid of being found out if people find out your one could only think everybody has that fear. On some level I'm sure that's right. Mine is connected very much to the hopeful something Waters was just five months old when his father Eric Waters was killed during World War II.

After a recent concert of veteran came up to me said to me, your father would be proud of you Duchess lost completely stressed or realized it was uniquely kind of important moment to recognize could still be the need to you of my focus approval.

If you like little so emotionally entangled loss at the end of his last tour for the documentary about the wall. He went to the beach and his father died in battle you never been never followed to his death. If you like never stood on that beach staring out to see thinking about that and in the other man, especially declared fragile peace with you, so we don't see each other kind of ever stop Fleming which is a very good thing. What about this kind of a waste of time. Simply a waste of time and energy to butt heads about things essentially superficial this past Friday, Waters released his first solo album in 25 years.

Is this the life we really want a question he asks again in his new home really set polarized environment of this country. What sort of reaction a few weeks time to time when the American build will. Roger Waters is still a little cool if one is protesting this what's going on and next week here on Sunday morning were often the tones I'm Jane Pauley. Please join us here again next Sunday morning is take-out with preacher Garrett this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take-out with major Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts