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For many of us most of us.

Let's hope Valentine's Day is still a warm memory and there are the others. The ones for whom Valentine hearts are cheating hearts. Infidelity is now attracting some serious study.

As Tony to Coble will report in our cover story is the subject as old as marriage is happening at roughly the same rate on the survey were everywhere Western sheet when you nest on the French did me slinky, more guilty about her head on Sunday morning an honest look at infidelity. You say your reluctance and down a Margarita on an empty stomach, then how about a movable feast Spanish style like the one hour Seth down has enjoyed sure you can help us only with its here in Spain were there truly savor that way of life.

How can a food be a way of life. Top us both feast writing is later on Sunday morning when they ask for the envelope please for best supporting actor fans of welcome to follow will have their fingers crossed.

He's an actor who is not at all like some of the characters is portrayed as Martha Tyson or will show us, given some of the creeps. He's played. It's hard to grasp that Willem Defoe was actually a nice Midwestern boy a doctor's son from Appleton, Wisconsin. What have you got it was Constance telling you always. His work ethic is kind of politeness, not wanting to stick out. Oh anybody anything he could be describing Bobby the motel manager plays in the Florida project, a role that earned him his third Oscar nomination Willem Defoe.

As you may not have seen him later this Sunday morning on display this Sunday morning.

Alex Wagner's look at the artist behind Michelle Obama's just unveiled portrait maraca remembers the president.

Some argue was our worst ever Florida high school shooting survivor student David Hogg argues enough, are all coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues cheating hearts it's a sign of romance last spoken of and more full. It seems that we might like to thank our cover story is reported to lead to Coble is the only commandment that's repeated twice and doing it, and once the thinking about it. It's a subject as old as marriage and usually more taboo than divorce every mother's marriage is heading to psychotherapist Mr. Perrault has been studying infidelity more than a decade, 93% of American think that is morally wrong and more morally wrong than cloning and suicide and domestic violence. It's an interesting location for something that is not criminal, that is totally consensual. The contradictions of unfaithfulness raise a question. Why do so many people cheat these days there's ample chance to examine the issue in recent weeks we've seen Pres. Trump denied new reports of affairs with an adult film star in a Playboy model in 2006 I was engage in a consensual relationship with a woman who wasn't my wife in Missouri Gov. Eric Reitan has acknowledged an affair with his hairdresser and it's a mistake which I am deeply sorry I have to an extramarital affair while Nashville Mayor Megan Berry has apologized for sleeping with her bodyguard and I am deeply sorry for that which makes her part of the trend according to a survey by the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University female philanderer's are catching up with their male counterparts.

For the first time on record as a form of emancipation to go the potential of not having to accept me find a way 70s have been preserved is because women made the compromise more than in a series of massively popular Ted talks never exacted such a psychological toll a buzzed about podcast in her latest book, the state of affairs. Perrault is asking us to rethink our attitude about infidelity to think about them. Just as a good person and that person does not. The millions of people who are experiencing it. The children, the friends and family. I mean it's it's not the lovers. I can't blame him and I can't blame me. I mean it's it's it's 50-50 like each other. We got to politely distant like each other anymore. Christie is a mother of two who asked that we not use her real name, or reveal where she lives allowed us to show her face was not looking for love was not looking to leave my husband was just looking for companionship.

Like many women she resolved to stay in an unhappy marriage for the sake of her kids until one night a few years ago. Would you also resolved to stray. I was sitting on the bed now and he said something to me very disrespectful, very hurtful. I don't remember what. And I just snapped. I pulled my phone and I went to my phone and I said when looking for men to have affairs with.

She ended up on Ashley Madison, a website that helps men and women pursue what's known as married dating. Yes, married dating, came up with this term has been around a long time. Ruben Buell is the president of Ashley Madison's parent company life after a damaging league of usernames in 2015.

He says the site is booming with 20,000 new members a day. A lot of this came out of singles dating or your on single sites, but 30+ percent of the people on the site for married so somebody took category and created Ashley Madison. It was something he felt like a teenager again. Yes DD you now. I felt form I really did me actually recalling each other, girlfriend and boyfriend Mary.

He was my boyfriend. I was his girlfriend like after all those years of not having any having some again but sex is for from the only reason that people cheat says is there Perrault and cheating doesn't always mean a troubled relationship either says happening good marriages that marriage is young old strait gate.

When people go to look elsewhere did not so much wanting to leave the person that they are with that they want to leave the person that you have become. They want to go back to who they might have been or never were and never got to explore worldwide. The one word that people would keep coming back to when I would see what is it you see a life I was so depressed I didn't want to get out of bed every day and I had to because somebody had to house and I was set. Now I like getting up know I have something to look forward to Daphne, who did not want us to use your real name or short phrase. Never thought she'd have an affair the first 22 years of her marriage were good.

She says, but her husband's Alzheimer's changed everything.

The man that I stood up in front of everybody and promise to love forever no longer access.

Daphne is committed to caring for the man she married for the rest of his life with the 56-year-old decided in order to live her life. She needed to date again six months ago she met her boyfriend on Ashley Madison editor moral thinking changed. It's not me.

Well without it.

I wasn't going to be able to continue taking care of my husband if I did have some fun.

I remain well because I was impatient with him.

I cry angry and now I'm much too impatient with him. I don't get angry. I'm a better wife now than I was and consider this infidelity may just be nature's way you love more than one person by line.

But why, why would that be helpful to arrival.

What I wanted that to win so I studied adultery in 42 cultures, they all fall in love. They all marry and they all noticed that his adulterous but in every single culture that I've looked at this some people who are adulterous which made me have to wonder why Helen Fisher is a biological anthropologist at the Kinsey Institute back a million years man has one wife and has two children occasionally goes over the hill and sleeps with another woman and has two extra children.

He's double the amount of DNA. He is sent into tomorrow so adultery made it more likely that any given gene pool would continue. Yes, but if it's also natural.

You might wonder why does it have the power to cause so much pain is the breach of the romantic ideal is this shattering of the grand ambition of enough to be clear, Perrault does not recommend infidelity but she does call for empathy. We do not claim our superiority just because we haven't cheated when we have been neglecting when he been married to our jobs. Many to the bottom and just because we haven't had sex with somebody yes we think we are mature and the committed and superior.

This is that a change never have an honest conversation about this Christie for her part was forced into an honest conversation with her husband after he read text messages from her lover sell.

He came in he says to me now see everything Jeremiah I can deny my divorce is pretty much like no tear nothing, not on his and not online I don't condone what I did. You know I am not saying for anybody to go out and do that.

But I'm telling you that that's my story, which cleared the way for Christie and her now divorced boyfriend to no longer hide their secret last year in Las Vegas. They were married how to feel as those against great now.

It was like in italics. It's forever.

I know it's forever page from our Sunday morning on February 18, 1977, 61 years ago today a red letter day for game show today white small-town South Carolina model and movie actress. Why did the big time on December 3, 1982 Sajak introduced her graduations and welcome. Thank you very excited very hands-on better wife today. Year after year, more than 6500 shows so far light has been showing all of us have simply by revealing occasional skeptics and the demands of her job that herself makes no apology job but I do know a question on this Presidents' Day weekend which our former chief executives was the worst ever presidential historians have been making a list and our maraca. The winner James Buchanan, Warren Harding's how no survey of forgotten presidents lips take would be complete without our 17th president Andrew Johnson people come in thinking you think of Jackson old lots of times absolutely Andrew Johnson's presidency would end in disgrace. But in 1864, when Republican Pres. Abraham Lincoln was running for reelection during the Civil War and needed a running mate who balance the ticket. Tennessee's Andrew Johnson was his pack. He was something politically. That really wasn't even supposed to exist. He was a union supporting Southern Democrat, accessible, and I've heard you exist, but have never seen.

I am loving that banner Lincoln Sasquatch 64 Burke Greer is a Ranger at the Andrew Johnson national historic site in Greenville, Tennessee. Lots of things in his name on here where you'll find the Andrew Johnson Bank, the Andrew Johnson Highway the Andrew Johnson in is always for this tell the local boy does good story is this town still proud of Absalom Johnson was a tailor here before he ran for office because we need to keep eating different irons and shop the original still stands. Became a place for everyday people to talk politics. This paper the yeomen the good solid working people of eastern Tennessee for public schools except for public libraries like state fairs anything to give the workingmen a leg up Johnson's back story, says historian Howard means was every bit as raw as the rail splitters if Lincoln and Johnson were competing in the humble Olympics who would come. However, the goals, I think Johnson would've his father died three years old. He was with a pendulous family had basically no education. His wife told him to write when he was in his early 20s, which made his political assent all the more stunning from town alderman all the way up to VP, he didn't lose a single election but on the very day, Lincoln delivered his iconic second inaugural address, Johnson had a little too much whiskey. He rambled really drunkenly for about seven admit is reeling around some is filled with rage, basically criticizing the, the ambassadors who were there. As you know, that's highborn and all that sort of stuff. Still, there were high hopes for Johnson after the shock of Lincoln's assassination just five weeks later, on Good Friday, when you look at sermons that were preached at Easter Sunday. Many northern churches talked about the nation being delivered at the right moment to the man who could do the job. The stage was set for this guy to be exact Savior precisely, but the task ahead of Johnson may have been the most daunting any president has ever faced, it's possible to conceive of the America of 1865 when Johnson took office you're trying to heal the wounds of the four-year war with 600,000 people dead. Therefore million freed slaves in the South in a country of 30 million people. Johnson wanted the postwar South treated leniently. As for the fate of freed slaves. He wanted that left up to the states, but many of his so-called radical Republican opponents wanted to punish the secessionists to guarantee civil and voting rights to freed men. The clash led to crisis with the president all but declaring war on Congress's Washington birthday speech in 1866 he declaimed they may slander me. Let me say I do not intend to be bullied by my enemies take things personally. Yes, it was very thin-skinned. He took just about everything personally. He remembered tossing jeers from decades gone by, he never forgot the sound of somebody criticizing the more you would try to get them to open up and listen to a different side of thinking the further back. He would go almost tripping like petulant child like you know he would just ball up and and not really want to hear anything you have to say. Despite the personal pleas of abolitionist leader Frederick Douglas Johnson vetoed major bills that would've helped former slaves, Congress overrode him. Finally, the bad blood spilled over the president was impeached and escaped removal from office by just one vote on the well here is the impeachment ticket.

He went to the basement about a ticket for everyday at the Greene County history Museum. Betty Fletcher is the keeper of all things Andrew Johnson including tickets to his 1868 impeachment trial think that the complete fit on this are pretty great unless you're the guiding is not a success as president.

How do you explain to people I don't know who would've been a success. Right then, right there.

Lincoln may have had a little easier row to hoe just because of his political savvy but I certainly don't think it would've been smooth sailing link. His mind are so complex at the national portrait Gallery in Washington. Abraham Lincoln is prominently placed casting a shadow on his much less popular successor Patty think you feel about being stuck in the corner. Lincoln's world trap you would like to think you'd like it. Even Buchanan gets a better spot over there is that kid becomes your responsibility still to come, happen, or nominated actor will them to follow. Imagine if you joined us Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane Hawley with roles in films such as 2002 Spider-Man welcome to follow is one of our most versatile actors. Not surprising. His name will be an Oscar night contention when they call for the envelope ladies first though he takes a walk in the park with our Martha Tyson ready. That was a good class. The big open smile, not necessarily what you'd expect sitting down with Defoe, who was once nominated for MTV's best movie villain is the green even a little sinister is an animated fish and finding Nemo. We give the kid a proper reception famous as he is looking menacing to me in person. He's not scary at all. A lot of it once I play with a lot of love and a lot of pleasure and you also play them as heroes. You know you don't judge them the authority my job title manager Bobby character Defoe plays in the project is kind of hero is the manager of a motel on the CD outskirts of Orlando that's home to struggling families always on the edge. I'm kind of in the movie connective tissue if you were one of the fighters because all these people are pretty challenging lives and there's lots of problems at this budget hotel and I'm going to sort things out.

The story is set in a place surrounded by kitschy symbols of phony fantasy with the thing that's real is childhood innocence filmmaker Sean Baker made the Florida project on a minuscule budget. So when William Defoe sought him out to play Bobby wasn't for the money. So what was the fascination about this particular the fact that basically he was making it professional. New performers children performers filming actual place telling a story that's not usually told of an underclass of the world. I didn't really know your is understated performance is earned him an Oscar nomination for best supporting actor's third compare the to his nomination in 2001 for shadow of the vampire forward to his 1987 nomination. There's no better way to gauge Defoe's at 62. He's always working on very high-minded about very serious about what I do. I think it can be very important. When I was a young actor. You know, everybody lost used to always say you know it's not brain surgery. It is because you can change how people think you can change how you think by performing. He says he remembers his life by the movies he's made more than 104 released last year alone and unimaginable career trajectory for the kid from Appleton, Wisconsin, the son of a surgeon and a nurse. William Defoe was the second youngest of eight children will them was a nickname that stuck is up at night is writing to books. Here he is in a college theater production at the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, Milwaukee, what made you know you need to come from Wisconsin to because that was New York not Hollywood in 1977 at the age of 22 he found himself living in the E. Village Sq., Park. You would a good place is a good time to shape the kind of actor he would become when you started out as an actor here. What were your dreams. My dream was to get through next week, and to be around these people that I thought were really fascinating, stimulated and initially that was specifically these people working at the Worcester group is a new kind of work commercial work that was personal work that forced forms the Worcester group was experimental theater at its most experimental 27 years with the company taught Defoe a very physical kind of acting. I have a lot of faith in the wisdom of the body know I feel like the body. That's why you said that you sometimes feel that your acting is that you're more like a dancer.

I forget myself and angels and your face the way you use your face. I don't use my face. My faith uses me really I have gaps in my tea. I think my face is expressive, but I have nothing to do with it just happens, it happens you suck only a confident camera director would dare engage in such on-screen silliness can be very funny. Yes, William Defoe, but he still taking roles like this one in the life and death of Marina Abramovich. He picks his projects based on the production was directed by light Italian actress and filmmaker Jada: Sunday they live in Rome, New York. Defoe's son Jack from a previous relationship is a lawyer spend any time at all with William Defoe and you understand that he likes to disappear into his roles in his life time. I like Hollywood fund and that's because that's because I love New York. I like being in California when there because I'm usually working on icy friends. The weather's nice and all that but died a little because I like the streets like to have yourself live here. It's much easier to loss. So for this consummate shape shifter to emerge and play the Hollywood game in the run-up to the Oscar speaks not so much to his ambition as it does to his generosity. Very thankful I'm not blasé about it all very happy and since the movie was not really proud to represent the movie is the flag bearer. Essentially, the flag bearer like file file somewhere. Hope you are hungry were off on a movable feast with sat down sturdy walking shoes and a hearty appetite recommended quick links speed and chances are topless come to mind.

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The core message is always the same. I'm on vacation you're not not wish you were here but really wish you were there left behind in Valdosta, Georgia. We found a man whose bringing a certain sincerity to the petty postcard campaign started in 1995 David Lassiter had just dropped off his oldest daughter at college. She was going to Notre Dame and he was going much because I cry himself to Kentucky with the whole family: I will in a Mr. so that night he sent her a postcard walk with justice he is done virtually every day since all four of his kids any day. They're not with him he sends cards nearly 20,000 over 20 years. His daughter Sarah lives in Savannah, Georgia, is actually saved the ball on strings and racks and crammed in cabinets a lot more than just a picture of the building almost every card is unique anything on front and back dry spot.

What did you find us say there's a whole lot of talk about gardening and football. That sounds boring.

I mean come on I need a hard lace up shoes really cares what happened at the podiatrist about that and said for me to wear my shoes all the time. I don't know if they read more and he doesn't mind if they don't. David says this was never about conveying new information.

This was always about repeating the same message over and over and over again when uncle left.

I think you know life gets tough and it's nice to know somebody. A good reminder after last week especially to tell your kids you love them as daily and creatively as you possibly can now on display in Washington official portraits of Barack and Michelle Obama. The story of the artist who painted the former first lady is the story Alex Wagoner has to tell Ms. show Cheryl went from being a virtual unknown to one of the most talked about artists in the world on Monday. Her painting of Michelle Obama was unveiled alongside the Wiley Pres. Barack Obama.

Both Cheryl and Wiley were interviewed and chosen job by the Obama's themselves. She came in and she looked at Barack and chief Mr. Pres., I'm really excited to be here and I know I'm being considered for both portraits, she said, but Mrs. Obama.

She physically turned to me and she said I'm really hoping that you and I can work together you maybe a particular interest in painting her. Yeah yeah yes he was asking questions as well. Wiley Pres. Obama's portrait any Cheryl 844 and largely unknown. This was her big break. You have waited tables changing this moment I am relieved that I can pay back with loans. You know it's something that I mean becoming artists nonempirical is not about hard work you have to put the work and make it. I think hustling for that long a kind of like chips away at your self-esteem, and then the breakthrough comes. You like to I am.

The portrait is similar to Cheryl's other works except her models exclusively black and never smiling are usually strangers. She needs on the street, not former first ladies as the process went on with the First Lady did you get more comfortable. Yeah, we had two settings but you still always a little bit nervous having to look her in her eyes that the study the face before I photograph to try to figure out what I want those little intense moments where you just have to have courage to keep looking because you get basso because you know you're looking at the First Lady white paint black skin, as in grayscale just looks good like the gray skin on these bright colors just I think also I was subconsciously struggling with not wanting to be marginalized and I say that because I thought the black body is a political statement in itself right so on campus. All of a sudden I make a statement just because I'm painting brown skin, but I hate the way that I paint. She tells me she knew what to expect.

There are some people who look at the portrait of the First Lady and I don't see her and I don't I don't I don't see the Michelle Obama that I know everybody's invested in them all kinds of ways on all different levels and so for me to even want to paint her makes me crazy because I'm setting myself up for criticism right. I feel like I captured her when I look at it. I see her I see the Michelle that was present at the sitting contemplative graceful woman you know understands her place in history today.

Amy Cheryl has a place in history are paintings which he works on in this Baltimore studio are now selling for up to $50,000 each.

But wow this is her moment at the moment she wasn't sure she lived to see when did you first find out about your heart when I was 30 and had been walking around with my heart function at 18%, which is what most people get transplanted at but I was a symptomatic no symptoms at all. Heart was failing. Plus their relatives back home who needed her help, so she put aside her brushes and returned to Georgia at one point Cheryl stopped painting for four years. In 2012 brother died of cancer just days later Cheryl received a heart transplant from a young donor nearly a decade after her diagnosis, my brother dying change me. I didn't realize how strong I was, until I lost my brother and I realize what my spit. The I'm I can get through stuff and losing him only made me want to live my life. Even harder for an artist familiar with mortality.

Amy Cheryl seems to have found a sense permanent. After all homework now hangs the national portrait Gallery and I think it matters that the fortress is so different because something happened in history that wasn't supposed to happen you know there's a continuum and there's a stop and all of a sudden you're like what was this so 300 years from now when the stories and water down you know to me. Those porches speak to that moment with the intensity that is necessary to bring forth the two of what happened and why they were here. So to say about last week shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school in Florida.

We've asked for the views of Senior David Hogg, who heads the student TV station there after which you'll hear from Faith Salie. I was in my environmental science class when the first gunshot echoed through the hallways, we never had an active shooter drill at my school. And no, we didn't talk about what to do in this type of situation.

Nothing could have prepared us for this, politicians, and more importantly the American public must take action if were going to prevent the next shooting elected officials.

I say this don't lie to us. Don't make any more false promises because when you do children die for the unfortunate individuals that were at my school. I asked that this be a time of togetherness and something that is going to be always remember not only is a terrible incident, but as a turning point in American history where students speak up and speak out when the politicians will I understand the importance of interest groups and how often times there necessary to continue our political agenda. However, when that agenda involves putting the lives of children at risk.

How can you justify I support the Second Amendment, but for God's sake, how can we knowingly pass bills and laws that are in direct opposition to saving kids lives. Sandy Paul's nightclub shooting in Vegas just to name a few. What legislation was passed in response, the answer to that question. This Presidents' Day I think it's important that we come together as a nation and see each other's viewpoints and respect each other as fellow Americans, but this tragic event must never forgot because once it is there will be another one and we need to stand up, go out and vote. Talk to your legislators and get educated. Be persistent because these interest groups and these politicians will not listen. If we don't speak up as American citizens and stand up in the face of division. Not for any political agenda, but for the lives of millions. It seems like the same horrific story another school man with the gun children slaughtered. We'd like to call it unthinkable that after Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, and now high school in Florida. It's not just thinkable but sickeningly predictable. David Hogg just told us the terrible truth is it's only a matter of time, maybe weeks, maybe just days before the next one generation of young people who have to perform active shooter drills at school has been marked for insensitivity for needing trigger warnings. How can we blame them when they are not safe from actual triggers. It seems like the same story may be different. American children are looking right at us at the people who are supposed to take care of them, their parents and grandparents, teachers, congresswomen, and the president saying something 17 of his past weeks victims have been silenced by 19-year-old with an AR 15 so let's give them a voice today for Elena do something for Nicholas to something for Aaron do something for Alyssa. Do something for Martin do something for Scott do something for Janie do something for Christopher do something for Luke do something for Cara to something for Gina to something for Joaquin do something for Maddow do something for Helena do something for Alex to something for Carmen do something for Peter to something called the man who created our Constitution, the founding fathers and we document date created to thwart any attempt to restrict access to guns like the killing machine used in this and so many other shootings. Those fathers of America knew their children were being massacred.

I would like to think they too would say to something if we don't, shame on all of us.

I'm Jane Pauley.

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