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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com good morning Jane Pauling and this is Sunday morning or Sunday Hollywood's biggest night. As will be noting throughout the morning but over this evening ceremony, hangs a troubling question how to judge the legacy of Hollywood grades living and dad who's been accused of sexual misconduct, a question, Tracy Smith will consider an hour Sunday morning cover story. From there it's on to critical mass, not the critical mass of nuclear physics, but rather the critical mass of movie critics whose verdicts are now being trumpeted by a popular and increasingly powerful website. Jim Axelrod will explain on this Academy Awards Sunday.

It's no longer just about the Oscar. Don't worry, it's now also about Jamaica without a Rotten Tomatoes lies individual.

I guess I'd have to go read hundred reviewed the new force at the box office is a very oversimplified system fresh rotten. There's a lot more nuance in film criticism inside the world. Rotten Tomatoes the head on Sunday morning where you might work being Oscar Sunday. As always, David Edelstein will weigh in with his views more all coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues the legacy of some of Hollywood's biggest names is in doubt. This Oscar Sunday tarnished by charges of sexual misconduct.

But should that taints extend to their most beloved works question by Tracy Smith in our cover story. If you need to be reminded why they called Alfred Hitchcock, the master of suspense.

Take a look at his 1963 film the birds it was 31-year-old to be Hedren's first big movie role as a naturalist, the blonde victim. But there was horror offscreen to Hitchcock.

She says her life miserable.

You can say me to absolutely and I have two kinds of situations out. Yes, your 2016 autobiography Hedren says the director hounded her for sex, and lashed out at her when she refused. He said I'll ruin your correctness and it was because you because I turned why do you think there are biographers, people have worked with Hitchcock say will this wasn't the man that I knew they lucky. Now I when they know why when they have the same relationship that I would have heard of the movie will forever be clouded by what went on behind the scene. You think that we can appreciate a groundbreaking work of art. Even if we know that the man behind it might not be that great of a human being difficult to separate the fact that there is a great piece of art, but I don't want to get a lot in the room with them. So do revelations about someone like Hitchcock change the way we think about his legacy. How about he was scrubbed from TV and movie roles.

After apologizing for Ms. conduct with a minor earlier work like American beauty, watchable. Don't interrupt me and after a torrent of sexual assault allegations, all of which is denied. Harvey Weinstein won't be at the Oscars tonight or any other, but the films. His companies produced and distributed have won a total of 81 Academy Awards can't remember the titles there's an easy way to find out rotten apples is a database that will tell you with anyone connected with the film or TV show has reportedly been accused of sexual harassment or assault about psycho Paul Wegman and Fekete not are two of the sites creators are you saying don't watch these if there's a rotten apple in a thing that we are saying here is information for you for you to decide.

Do you think that's even possible to separate the arts from the artist.

It's hard for me might recognize these two booths I would do better for her Emmy-winning role in orange is the new black and Amber Tamblyn for her work on this network and many others. Both are founding members of times when you look at the Academy Awards, and there are dozens probably hundreds of movies that were either produced by directed by our starring someone who's now accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault. When we do with all of that part.

How we view it. No Felton no TV show no work of art is on Paramount or that genius, or more important than the physical bodies or physical cells that have been harmed in the process of making that work and I think that's really important to you to remember when were thinking about people's legacies who are who are very problematic.

I am less concerned with how and what sort of future there they have and how their work gets to survive or not survive. I am more interested in what are we doing to make it right and in some cases making it right.

Shunning certain shows and movies for only allowed to those things that that part that we loved that now is tainted.

Absolutely I do you mind sharing specifically what you've mourned mine.

Mine was the Cosby show, you know, is I don't want to cry like you know this feeling that you know that I grew up on that show. I saw myself in a show.

I recognize the power of that shelf, but I also recognize that is a show that was spearheaded by an individual who had lasting effects on a number of women I am a woman that is my tribe.

I stand with those women, of course. History is littered with examples of artists behaving badly.

Caravaggio, the brilliant Renaissance artist was wanted for murder composer Richard Wagner was a virulent anti-Semite and Pablo Picasso called women machines for suffering is said to have abused his wife and girlfriends but villains are not there art is hard to ignore so we can separate the art from the artist think it's humanly possible. Yes, I think in some respects it's important this is transformative Ted Braun documentary filmmaker and professor of cinematic ethics at USC, says we could reject troublesome margin, but we be poorer for it occurred to me about the American Western which is one of our great traditions might be viewed in certain respects, certainly by country as one long celebration of extermination. As such, look at it very differently if you were to where would you want to remove all westerns from the shelf I would want to live in a world where those films were not imagine we will be impoverished. I was just playing now 88 to be Hedren lives on an animal preserve. She sounded north of Los Angeles has quite a legacy of her own daughter, Oscar nominee, Melanie Griffith and her granddaughter Dakota Johnson both followed her into the movie business, but she still has mixed feelings about her own time in Hollywood and you watch other Hitchcock films and fully entirely different things to different things. What you mean you're separate and totally separate line my my feelings about him.

My thoughts about him, but is very town and incredible things you might say Alfred Hitchcock will always have a place to be. Hedren's life just outside her front door, which are famous directors today and ornate monument complicated legacy movie critics nationwide are being forged into a single critical mass.

Jim Axelrod shows us how it's done got seven different screens under each playing a slice of one movie. If the artwork in the lobby of his California tech company doesn't tube you off screen, take a walk down the hall so this room is called Casablanca swab at 3 o'clock in the because want to go wonder what they do here are top movies are Black Panther and try a few minutes morning read headquarters of rotten tomatoes, even as the entertainment industry gathers tonight to see which of this year's films. The Academy thought best.

Don't worry, this company may be reshaping the way we go to the movies and how we choose what we see without a rotten tomatoes I is an individual. I guess I'd have to go read hundred of you yet over is the president of fandango, the online ticket company that acquired Rotten Tomatoes two years ago perfect marriage here of a technology company more than 1/3 of moviegoers now make checking Rotten Tomatoes. The last thing they do before buying a ticket.

The site aggregates dozens of reviews curated from thousands of company approved critics and calculates the percentage that are positive were democratizing that research that were democratizing access to it through the Internet. Forests is a vice president at Rotten Tomatoes curator will go find review put in the system and then read it to determine is it fresher rotten. If they're not sure then our processes we sent it to three other curators on the team who all read independently as real uncertainty will go to the source and say you're not being clear in recommending this movie or are you not right. Here's how that works. Your 75% or more of the critics post positive reviews like 97% good with Black Panther movie.

Use certified fresh 60 to 74 on the tomato meter like you and the beast was 71 only gets you a fresh what you're trying to avoid as a filmmaker is a number under 60 baguettes rotten thrown at 50 shades free. For instance, tomato, meter score of 12.

We this is Cisco and Ebert for the digital age absolutely expensive. If entitlement works for the national research group, a polling firm that tracks industry trends you have studios as clients. How we doubt are the studios by Rotten Tomatoes are scary because it still that shortcut you can agree or disagree with the reviewer, but really, nothing beats seeing escort the end to know I want to spend my money or I don't spend my money on the delete delete and that's exactly what's studios.

The idea of their marketing machines may not be as able to overcome bad reviews in the age of Rotten Tomatoes. Michael LinkedIn is the former CEO of Sony entertainment. Rotten Tomatoes came on the scene that wasn't the voice of individual reviewers that mattered.

It was a collective voice of rotten tomatoes. I do know people pay a lot of attention to it and I do think it does have an effect on how the movie opens and it certainly has an effect on what the legs of the picture. Perhaps that's why Dir. Martin Scorsese recently called rotten tomatoes, hostile makers and a column for the Hollywood reporter ready to picture the way you'd write a horse at the racetrack. He wrote they have everything to do with the movie business and absolutely nothing to do with either the creation or the intelligent viewing of film Rotten Tomatoes at the end of the day, net positive I I am a little closer to the negative side C4 down… Performance on a Hollywood soundstage. We caught up with Claudia week president of Los Angeles film critics Association is a very oversimplified system fresh rotten and there's a lot more nuance in film criticism is a lot more nuance in people's appreciation of film I wish that there were more categories that there was seen. It was slightly overcooked tomato is slightly Rotten Tomatoes. Even with her issues with Rotten Tomatoes brig is still one of their top reviewers. It seems there's no disputing Rotten Tomatoes influence these days. Certainly studios are thinking how we can arrange the largest amount of people hiring and make the most money in this day and age that's going on tomatoes do you dispute the notion that Rotten Tomatoes is now almost achieved make or break status for movies being released. I think that's too strong a statement I don't think it's make or break we don't think about all we we believe that if anything we help shine a light off and on films and TV shows that you might not know a lot about.

Otherwise, I guess the school thought there is. If you want to make a successful movie. Now you've got a thread this Rotten Tomatoes needle do the moviemakers the producers the studios point. I look at this way. Right now there are nine Oscar-nominated movies. I believe every single one for best picture. I think every single one of them is fresh.

Jackson has not one but two Oscars.

She can boast about. Not that she'd ever do that.

One of those trophies is for the movie a touch of class a film's title aptly describes the woman in question Mark Phillips has our Sunday profile. I team one she's 881 years old. Actually Linda Jackson is I was very good, not the character she's been rehearsing in the Broadway production of Edward Albee's classic three tall women you a two-time Oscar winner with a reputation for strongly held views. Jackson plays a difficult to deal with matrix. So here you have a play which is entirely dependent upon three females and love itself is fascinating person can. It's a perfect partner for her to return to the world, where she has long and famously complained about the lack of good parts for women. I mean I can remember when I was still doing films I'm going back a long way.

Now it was not infrequent to have a woman in a film to prove that the hero wasn't getting so old that was the kind of reason for being mean, it's still all this, but still got a long long way to go, Glenda Jackson has already come a Long Long Way, American audience can be forgiven for having lost track of her from the days when she was one of the dominant faces of British acting on American TV. I want no husband. I am adding to my country.

I don't want my subjects to feel jealous or 1970s role as Elizabeth I.

Elizabeth R was one of the series that defined Masterpiece Theatre on PBS all male sexual prowess typically America all her forays into the movies not only prove she was a bankable star who can do anything. One of those two Oscars one 1973, using touch of class have to go well and another. Before that, for women in love, but her route back to Broadway has followed some unprecedented twists and turns that had taken her far from the bright lights of the great white way, to which he does not return to process of constantly discovering' all for more than two decades her life and nothing to do with this world.

Some might say. She spent those years on that other kind of stage she was a member of Parliament for the Labour Party for 23 year people drawn into that world, she says, by what she considered to be the social policies of the conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher for me. The final straw was when she said there's no such thing as a society, and I was so enraged by that, I walked into my close friends Windows and almost broke my note I didn't. I'm happy to say, do, but I've always been supportive of the light born into a working-class family. Her father, a construction worker, mother cleaner, Jackson came by her socialism naturally and her principles were never compromised by the niceties of parliamentary tradition. When Margaret Thatcher died and other MPs paid tribute.

She didn't pull it all nice and I still spicy was in fact agree. Selfishness shall then they calm down now. Let Glenda Evers wasn't in his Glenda Jackson decided to draw a line under her political career. Three years ago and it wasn't long before her old life came calling.

If you were to choose gently reentry into the theater in your 81st year, you wouldn't choose to play one of the most artistic and physically demanding roles ever written, all my parents to see strong work ethic and being on 24 seven just as much as tainting the play quite 24 seven. But it's the work that can the production was a triumph for specious London evening standard prize for best actress award she received in typically Barb style when I was feeding myself by being rational actors. I never got a good noticing the things that and when I changed direction and became a labor I was the wrong political party's evening sound something prize they would so I'm left wondering what to wrong given you this great award, so it's not like gratitude is your first reaction that I think that's a little harsh. I mean, I think, obviously, one is in that sense grateful because you've been given the gift, but it doesn't make you any better. I know was making the talented lease, Jackson showed up for this one. She didn't bother turning up for either of her Oscar wins last night to Take a surprise to me that actually was feeling so for the two other actors in the current play Metcalf and Allison pill working with Jackson was the main attraction. All sort of is you want to be amiss with want to work with Glenda Jackson. That's how I heard about it and that's the reason that I'm sitting in this room right okay but I hesitate us what you learn only if you look terrible laying how you can get away with Bob acting as it happens, Lori is yourself nominated for an Oscar this year you should just go to city College with your work at the college and then to jail for her role in ladybird yourself on your were this history with Oscars are you considering emulating her graciousness and something I want to go relating nothing. One of the things you quickly learn in an encounter with Glenda Jackson is that you'd better be able to back up what you say is the very fact that this play is about three women question gets a little fuzzy but it has to be this play about these three women. This kind of thing happens and then we'll talk when you talking about three tall women is currently scheduled to run into June.

After that, it would be lovely if there were things that can long that I wanted to just in terms of your own career and what have you stop talking about microbial symptoms about my life. I'm extremely extremely function that my I have these opportunities and I'm extremely grateful for that steady as she goes now Michelle Miller with the story of a smooth operator saloon have the muscle was the best moves in Rocky belonged to cinematic chain the same guy gave us chills with every hotel hallway turn in the shine and make sure audience consists of four things work, me, Garrett Brown, a onetime folksinger who revolutionized movies with the steady cam. How would you describe yourself better and better than I ever was, or director you single-handedly change the way the world views fell well now, but true before his creation. This is how Hollywood we get those smooth moving shots with cameras put on platforms called dollies or rolled on rails anything handheld would shake and balance. Garrett Brown figured out a better way.

In 1970. This was his solution. The camera stabilizing system or that he can wear how you would tilt the camera sure would always remain level. When you walk around your shop what you see the job we have this wonderful little stabilizer on our heads in the rear told her I muscle what to do so is this looking stable. This is handheld like that action. Brown paved the way steady cam operators like Michael Craven there's invention is given me ability to express myself through moving image in a way that is never been possible for really quite incredible. In the 1970s, Garrett made a steady cam demo film of his girlfriend, now wife running in Philadelphia producers to notice so did the director of a low-budget boxing.

If you have never used the steps of the Philadelphia Art Museum in your demo. Chances are Rocky never steps that most iconic scene might not be there you feel about that mentioned I love started in progress like to work on this shining actually showed almost all fields. In accordance old moving on. Smoothness we were almost turned it into the hotel, Martin Scorsese wanted him to shoot raging bull coming soon so started shooting the ring Scorsese others go polio room so you're fired what Mrs. looks too much like Rocky we give them another chance with casino Scorsese are refilled. This cam was a game changer, says University of Pennsylvania professor Peter Charney the first time he could have a smooth experience of moving through space much more closely to our natural experience. Now is the cameraman's perspective, the audiences perspective. It allowed the audience member feel really connected to the experience of the camera through space the body way this five-year-old who won an Oscar for his technical achievement had big ideas beyond the big screen. His many innovations include this guy can mind can't die even has a mini smart phone and it all goes back one day and in a corner boxers bar go a little and what better way to celebrate Eric Brown and his creation by re-creating shot me all years ago with just hours to go before the Oscars.

David Milstein is finalizing his pics. Fair warning. I'm going into this year's Oscars bursting with negativity because my favorite Florida project about this girl and turning, but otherwise loving single mom in a fleabag motel was ignoring criminal except for Willem Defoe should win but one with the genius of the Academy did a little better by the rest of my 10 best list my numbers to 34 and 10 were nominated for best picture and numbers five and seven for best documentary but the first four will lose to you either. The softcore fish born shape of water or the tragicomic tragicomic tragicomedy mishmash three billboards outside Epping Missouri.

My daughter Angela was murdered seven months ago. Seems to me the police department is too busy torturing black Krispy Kreme actual I'm rooting for ladybird's Sir Sharon.

Even though she's always blabbering about not reading moving, which hurts me like you wouldn't believe Francis McDormand will probably win for three billboards.

She is one of my favorite actors and I'm actively rooting against her as if she did steroids were deflated balls.

That's what screwed up about award shows you root against people you love.

There's only one morally valid reason to do that you have money on someone else. The shows, meanwhile, are weird. You spent three hours watching you feel gross but starved is one best picture last year's grew up with Lala land like was a perfect storm of gross. So the first black gay movie ever to win as they come in through the back door. No justice.

Idiots.

So who will win this year. Shape of water or three billboards McDormand, Gary Oldman and his makeup people. Sam Rockwell, Allison Jenny shape of water director Guillermo Del Toro was a genuinely nice guy movie I'd like to see Greta Gerwig for director Timothy Salome Defoe, Laurie Metcalf and as I said Sir Sharon know you know what she doesn't read me go with Margo Rob world, the biggest suspense though is over what the me to move that will do to the ceremony. It's going to be so beautifully uncomfortable a lot of really angry women victims of harassment a lot of men who either harassed or look the other way and want to pledge support, but not trigger someone who knows something that scream you lousy hypocrite, rage, righteousness, guilty consciences primed by alcohol.

You know what it might be an amazing show, I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning with preacher Garrett this week. Stephen Long live Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to send races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's surprise, New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation followed the take-out with major Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts