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Learn more@edwardjones.com morning I'm doing poorly and this is Sunday morning. Many of us are celebrating Easter and Passover ancient religious holidays that celebrate new beginnings in our own time, though smart phone promised a new beginning in the way we communicate and share information with each other, but as recent news suggests sharing that information on social media comes at a price including what you might call a brain drain Ted Koppel will report our cover story when Justin Rosenstein worked at Facebook he invented the like, but when did you first ground rules the world's problems. Complications that's been interesting to see how it's played out as this kind of double edge sword. On the Sunday morning the blessings of social media sums up or so.

Mr. true colors is an Easter Sunday trait from our were not all about an old craft made new again.

It's not your grandfather's stained glass new shapes, colors and patterns. Stained glass is popping up in unexpected places, and in the more traditional setting it elevated to a higher power is like the Super Bowl of stained glass, your version of the modeling. Yeah, maybe it's our Sistine Chapel Sunday morning. True colors far from the peaceful realm of stained glass to costars in film and in life are talking moving terror this morning with our Anthony Mason you're not a horrible scaredy-cat of Jim helper John Krasinski made his name but making us laugh in the office tomorrow is just directed his first horror film. The scary part costars, his wife went on a stance that many people feel like you're going to be divorced in their frightening new film a quiet place. Krasinski directs blondes later on the Sunday morning national urban league president Mark Morreale remembers Dr. Martin Luther King, Jim Axelrod shows us artifacts from the Holocaust trial of Adolf Eichmann Brooks Silva Braga looks at the new Spielberg movie based on a book by a first-time author and more coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues, smart phones and other gadgets deliver a wealth of information, but are they also causing a brain drain our cover story as reported by Sunday morning senior contributor Ted Koppel 5060 years ago television was the strict food want our children's mom diminishing our attention span. Millions of mindless through those who reserve they were right. So what's different about. I think every technology that changes the way people people live inspires exaggerated hopes and fears technology critic Nicholas Kearns spent most of the postacute worrying warning about social media and the Internet, posing the question is Google making us stupid.

We've never had a technology like a smart, where it's with us all the time so I think this is something new in human history.

And I think were starting to see the science behavioral science sociological science that is pointing to how deeply this technology is affecting us because were using it so intensely that's the focus of Byron Reeves research is a professor with recall a meteor psychologist at Stanford University Prof. Reeves developed a way to accurately track our digital lives out of those 2 to 3 hours a day break down to view that three hours a content on average I am turning that phone on and off 300 times a day and that's just the average there a lot of people that are turning on and off, five, six, seven, 800 times a day, so it's going on going off for an average of 10 seconds you're making my brain were you talking take a new story and Sunday morning television program.

I don't know how long this one last two minutes. 10 minutes since this one will probably last line okay so the last 10 minutes. I'll just talk about Stanford students for second if you put software on laptop computers, and smartphones to measure how long they spent with any given segment of life that they attended how long they wrote the paper, how long they watch the new story. It's about 10 to 20 seconds but Windsor got a nine minute piece you want to know what old not going to do it.

Most likely it's it's going to be atomized. It might, and fragmented. That sounds like a formula for confusion. It could be. Oftentimes we find it's done with a progression of screens that at least kind of makes sense to me as you might've said something that's really important to me in minute two and I want to get right to the what becomes important to us is the next new thing that comes along in a matter of seconds. That's what grabs our attention and we begin to not only do we begin to ignore the need to think deeply and quietly and contemplatively about things that we begin to see that as a waste of time because it stops you from grabbing the next new bit of information Facebook was the first among the social media companies to turn those short and shallow retention bites and were hugely profitable business model. They realized that advertisers could just be given what amounts to a one click roadmap to our brains showing them as we flitted from one subject to another, what we liked and didn't like me. Justin Rosenstein is it fair to describe you as the creator of the like button coinventor: tell me tell me what you were thinking first coinventor.

The idea was can we make it one click really easy for people to be able to share little bits of positivity and affirmation in the world and when did you first come to realize that the problems complications that's been interesting to see how it's played out as this kind of double edge sword.

I think it's very dangerous right now. Have a business model in which the way that these companies make money is by selling peoples attention to advertisers, so regardless of whether they have good or bad intentions. Financial incentives just lean you more and more toward trying to get people to stare at their funds and as a result, we see that influencing the level of depth they were able to think at that influencing our politics abodes feed analysis of top election stories on Facebook during the final three months of the 2016 presidential campaign confirms Rosenstein's fears fake election news stories from phony sites significantly outperform stories from major news outlets like the New York Times, CBS News and the Huffington Post. The notion that major news outlets see themselves as professional gatekeepers carries less and less weight gatekeepers. The editorial gatekeepers. The journalistic gatekeepers have been overthrown and I think there was a general sense that that was liberating in her early days of the web and the Internet.

We can do this ourselves. It will democratize media and we now know that those enemies.

The people we thought were our enemies.

The gatekeepers actually played a very valuable. I wish I could tell you that were built to stop all interference, but that just wouldn't be realistic while Facebook and Twitter are undertaking efforts to limit the spread of misinformation online. The fact remains that all these Internet companies see themselves as distribution vehicles without any clear editorial responsibility and in 1996, Congress actually passed legislation to that effect.

Section 230 of the communications decency act. They were simply a platform which information flowed on so there was no responsibility to curate police or in any way, review the information that appears on your platform. Sen. Mark Warner is one of the tech industry's best informed and sternest critics can equate your companies know more about Americans in many ways the Nazis government what would happen if they began exercising real discipline over what goes out and were talking work items a day. Billions of items a day and these companies would fight against that regulation tooth and nail the Internet. Sen. Warner reminds us, has been weapon interference in our election threats to our infrastructure undermining confidence in our institutions.

My fear is that we may be investing in the best 20th-century planes, tanks and guns when much of the conflict in the 21st century will be in the realm of misinformation, disinformation and cyber warfare and I'm not sure were ready. I think ultimately that's the question is whether, as a public we have the kind of sense of a democratic future to make hard choices about what we pay attention to how we think about things or whether we let the devices in the social media determine that for us. You don't seriously think we have the outcome. I don't see any evidence of Justin Rosenstein left Facebook some years ago today is the cofounder of us on a software company that enhances workplace productivity.

But a lot of concerns I have about that technology will continue to erode our attention span make it harder for us to focus on important social issues make it harder for us to think clearly, which is critical to having a functioning democracy at the same time I think is a huge opportunity for us to meet reimagine these tools and redesign them in order to be a huge boon to civilization the opportunity there is for us to become the most informed, most compassionate populace of all times and and to be to be the most functioning democracy at all times, but it's a real fork in the road. I worry that if we continue with business as usual we run the risk of walking off the cliff of civilization will staring at our funds now page from our Sunday morning on April 1, 2018 April Fools' Day finally known as all fools Day, its origins are lost in time. Some data to the ancient Roman springtime festivals known as LRE others dated two 1582 when the new Gregorian calendar moved New Year's Day from April 1 to January 1. Making anyone who still celebrated on the old date will however foolish it may need to pinpoint the days origins is even more foolish to try to catalog all pranks is inspired and anxious time in 1957 the BBC ran a classic on the Italian spaghetti harvest followed up in 2008 with April fools report on Terry Jones and passengers landing in Los Angeles 1992 were greeted by a huge banner saying welcome to Chicago 1996 Taco Bell newspaper and claiming it had purchased the Liberty Bell and renamed it the taco Liberty Bell which prank will make headlines this year. One have no idea the true colors of this piece of stained glass were created by Jensen Studios in California snare are reshaping the ancient craft as Anna Warner discovered if you're coming to see Jesus. This might be the place. Welcome to the church of the resurrection in Leawood, Kansas, home to the largest Methodist congregation in the nation. Now one of the world's largest stained glass windows here Jesus is over the sanctuary with arms outstretched, surrounded by gardens and an assortment of religious and historical figures as broad as the window itself is equivalent to is this like the Super Bowl of stained glass, your version of the model. Yeah, maybe it's our Sistine Chapel. It's the creative masterpiece of Jensen Studios with leader David Johnson, the fifth generation and his family to run the company There stain glass studio in Pasadena California has been in constant operation 120 years with irritation that echoes the spirit of legendary stained glass artist like John Lafarge in the 1800s Louis comfort Tiffany which actually makes for some discomfort for Judson. We've been called the Tiffany of the West is a nun on the West because I think what Tiffany did was great and but he represents something that that were not so, I hope that they will know Studios and that will be able to carry own legacy, which is why Jensen developed techniques that are bringing designers to their door people looking for pieces that are far more modern than the old Victorian-style patterns.

That's what were trying to move away from the connotation. It's not your grandfather's in glass like Alonso with Los Angeles design firm commune stained-glass is a little bit about about Tory people do think all people to think heavy. Think of all chose Judson Studios to help reimagine downtown LA's Ace Hotel. This is a historic building 27 massive so we wanted to bring different styles picture and create our own mesh up-to-date look keeping to the hotel's Gothic tone.

The studio created these modernist gold animals.

You get a lot more out of this than you would with a plain glass traditional window you want a separation from the street or just the one to say I'm blasting.

But why not the place of the light so the church of the resurrection. David Johnson really showed his devotion to his crap with this revelation in glass the entire window was nearly 100' x 40' hundred feet by 40 feet single window yes like the size of a basketball court. The window was soaping. Judson built a second studio to take on the Kansas project.

So this is the new space so this is the house that the Kansas project built manufacturing 160 panels that would make up one enormous mosaic took three years, the way they develop new techniques including the use of powdered glass which they say creates a sense of movement project wasn't quick or cheap window cost $3.4 million but churchgoers say for them has been profound.

When you go when you feel God's presence in the Holy Spirit and I think it is my called last his creations. David Johnson is giving new life ancient craft. The death toll is been played several times first in class and it's not going away.

Something that people always have a desire testimony that convicted help pikemen of Holocaust atrocities. More than half a century ago has lost none of its power to chill the heart Jim Axelrod now on a silent artifact from the trial. That speaks volumes April 1961, 16 years after the end of World War II Nazi Col. name dado fight trial in Israel for his part in the Holocaust during the 19th 1945, a master planner of what the Nazis called the final solution.

Their plan to eradicate Europe's Jews become the only not be prosecuted by the Jewish people enclosed in a bulletproof glass booth that anchors a traveling exhibit currently at the Florida Holocaust Museum in St. Petersburg, and Robert Hoppe is the curator. Why did he sit in this booth defend him for a loop of the quality 52 Eichmann would mount a defense. He was just following orders overseeing the logistics murdering millions and unknowing because he claimed in the killing machine, but he was the machine he was in charge of all the schedules all the twins he sent the people to the caps.

How far away from and where you're sitting 15 yards. Maybe you could see him like the last time Jeff Cohen saw the glass booth. He was an 18-year-old American student visiting Israel when his group was given tickets to the Eichmann trial. What exactly does it bring back. It brings back the thoughtlessness of a human being who's taken upon himself to make the final decision to change the perspective, the trial is only half the story told by the exhibit did escape from Germany to the war.

Eichmann was in US custody, but the troops didn't know that he is making his way to Italy, then Argentina setting up home in a poor neighborhood and living under an assumed name we tell the Clement the 2000 to 50 with distinctly total Clement, the other called position as head of department notes to this, he worked for Mercedes-Benz. All would've been fine for Eichmann had his son Nicholas who didn't change his last name not started dating a young German woman whose family had also come to Buenos Aires, but her father had spent the war on the other side of the barbed wire.

He was a concentration camp survivor so that name Eichmann Nicholas Eichmann. It caught the attention of this girl's father.

Yes. When he came to visit her at home. Her father realized immediately that this is probably some capturing. I was the job of 11 Mossad agents.

Israel's version of the CIA who snatched him off the streets of what authorities in May 1960 transported him to Israel. Just the exhibit takes us through operation finale. The hidden cameras, Mossad agents used the ID Eichmann the Kelly this special suitcase, right inside the solstice casts of the gloves worn by the agent assigned to tackle him on the street is he didn't want to touch because it was touching evil calls the fake license plates made for the rental cars taped over goggles.

The agents stuffed over Eichmann's eyes so he didn't know where he was going to the Bible by the old during the five month trial if Eichmann would never admit his guilt but for the first time survivors and camps at the chance to fight about the horrors they had endured. We walked from the morning. Many a file and never got a remain on the road side. They were either shot a lot of beaten until they die. There was not red of repentance not know, and if anything, he was kind of puffed up.

If Eichmann thought he would just serve a few years in an Israeli prison before heading back to Argentina than he gravely miscalculated if Eichmann would be convicted and hanged right after the war the Allies prosecuted 22 Nazis in Nuremberg, Germany. But that was the winners trying the losers fight trial in Israel was something else entirely.

The victims themselves seeking justice even when the world would've understood inventions. Perhaps that's what's on display in this exhibit where people can make an intimate acquaintance with pure evil and be reminded of our capacity to triumph over it. Keeping our humanity intact for the plea mission is names and so is spatial because it is a very simple slope because it's about the following submission is the mission's full name.

We just because, to use his full name.

Making a regular Wednesday Spielberg, no less decided to make a movie based on a book by an anonymous author. Our Brooks Silva Braga just can't find out why. Kline's life looks like something out of a certain kind of 80s I been waiting a week implausible kind of worried Kiki hero gets to live out his wildest dreams for down the strap goes down like that, the car of course was immortalized back to the future Time Machine film and the concept find this thought a lot about yourself. Know what I have a hard time believing it now and who can blame them 2011 Kline's debut novel ready player one became a bestseller and now he's just finished work on the movie version alongside none other than director Steven Spielberg Kline's main qualification for the job was well being a big fan of Steven Spielberg official in the when he started ready player one how much fiction have you even published and knots ready player one is my first published work in a literary magazine, short story, nothing is going out yet and it's truck ready player one envisions a dark future in which people spend most of their time into a virtual online world plot involves a high-stakes scavenger hunt clues come from pop. This is great promotion of the film has taken over the real world occluding a massive interactive exhibit inclines hometown of Austin, Texas. So these are the stacked trailers from the book while I grew up in a trailer park and living until bar feels great and that's I imagine like in the future like what trailer park. Klein and his brother Eric raised in rural Ohio mix of their grandparents and an Atari console, a love for Star Wars affected dreams of working in the movies but for years, the closest Ernie came was a job as a video store clerk writing screenplays didn't quite work out.

He started a novel nine years later with the baby daughter to support client sent the book to publishers and then the very next day with old wrist, ready player one for more money than you know I ever imagined I would make or anyone in my family ever made my whole life. You just change the first 24 hours and I said oh by the way, now there's a bidding war going on in Hollywood for the film rights. What you think it would make a good movie well because it was a great adventure. I want to make as I had made an adventure film like this. My God for decades. When Steven Spielberg signed on to direct client. The ultimate fan boy became his collaborator though he's an authority on popular culture and we made the movie we kept going back to early just to pick his brain, was he able to play it cool around you. You yeah I think he was hanging on you. Even now just talking to him about having a conversation with him start to Steven Spielberg, it never goes away. You know, because he was such a giant figure in my child. Steven Spielberg's number in your phone calls me. I don't know. I'm sure I yeah I get a hold of him. I need to know success has given Ernie bigger toys as an action figure. But it's a love for the little ones that got him here to make the point. He brought out the Atari console he got for Christmas in 1978 and started playing a game called adventure. It was the first virtual reality game that I ever played very well in the flashing fuzzy pixels young Ernie found a secret room in the game were the designer had hidden his name and that was just a profound moment. Years later, that moment gave Klein the idea for a virtual scavenger hunt. The plot of ready player one story about someone trying to use their love and knowledge of 80s pop culture to achieve fame and fortune. And you are the person who did that. I know I feel like I am a testament to what happens if you be free about what you love and why you love it and not not afraid or worried about what other people think about your lover.

Your passions just be bold and and celebrate the things that you're passionate about an amazing things can coming up the perfect touch basketball player with the perfect touch and a return visit from our Steve Hartman every week. He set himself up for disappointment every week. 14-year-old Jamar, you and Stiles came to this community center in Boca Raton, Florida, hoping to play basketball with the other, and every week he was rejected by picking teams and I will be the only one left out and tell me just go home. You can break someone's heart like that as we first reported last year.

The problem was obvious to everyone but Jamar, you, he lost his hands and most of his arms due to a rare bacterial infection, but he insisted that was no reason to give up his hoop dreams. What about soccer if you heard of that sport yeah think that I will be good at soccer really not horrible, which is why first day of eighth grade. Eagles Landing middle school. Mario took his case to basketball coach Gary and William said he wanted to be on the team said all right we'll just make sure you try out what he really think this is a long policy go play basketball. But man told me never been on a team for even if I don't play be on the team and that's how the Eagles got there first armless basketball player Martin number two there quickly earned a reputation as the hardest worker on the squad. He was usually the first one in the gym using the last one to leave. Still, he sat on the bench most of the season.

Until one day the coach put them in the game with about six minutes left when he eventually got the ball on the far side of the court. Everyone yelled and set three point quite see that.

Don't worry because shortly after he got the ball again, this time on the near side for another three point tomorrow. Stiles will everyone's that story first aired, Mario went on to play freshman basketball still number two there and has every intention of making parsley one day. But here's the best part. After hitting those threes tamari and can now play all he wants at the community center is picked all the time. Really the only thing he won't play the victim if I could wave a magic wand right now and give you your arms back would you want.don't need to know who needs hands. This kind of touch is interesting.

It's Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane Hawley, John Krasinski played it for laughs in the long-running TV series the office now has real-life wife, Emily Blunt are costars in a movie that's all about harvesting horror in the countryside, which is where Anthony Mason has found them. I saw this on the pillow so that is where looking I saw this house was on the pillow.

I thought that's exactly the house. I want him pulling New York actor and director John Krasinski found the perfect farmhouse for his first horror film the family that's seemingly that's really used to living a longer time because of the sounds of the house and also trees fallen on so they'll decide to live in this barn that has a dirt floor and they're able to remain quiet quiet place is a post-apocalyptic story about a family trying to survive in a world of sonically sensitive creatures that it the slightest sound. No auto tech, but in the script, the director of father of two soft film about family. The scares were secondary to how powerful this could be as a allegory or metaphor for me. This is all about. That's also what attracted his costar Brezinski's wife Emily Blunt. I just fell in love with this mother. I just identified has so much to steadfastness.

It's the first time the couple has worked together. Originally you weren't thinking it was the part she was shooting Mary Poppins bridges that are second dollars.

There's a lot going on so I figured it can only go two ways my head which was willing to do this and she says no that some awkwardness or would you do this and she says yeah sure I'll do it for you both are good so I just chose the third option which is not to talk to her about it all. Blunt asked to read his script.

I previously suggested a friend of mine and then I rented thinking to call and tell her that I want you nervous about this is you have discussions about going to cover all nights for two years over the negotiations like that. My deal we honestly answer that many people like you're going to be divorced but we will close it was kind of amazing. So this is this clear soundstage. This was our soundstage took over this little horse arena building sets inside the film's interior scenes when we met last month, Krasinski was still in the mixing room mastering the sound for a film whose characters communicate mostly by sign language and hand signals way, but I'm now in the room with her. This movie sound is everything. It's a huge character if not one of the main characters love he showed his wife a first cut, and I'll never forget.

She turned me better handle my needs and distract as a silent film. I said I know right now stoppers is directed to silent down in a quiet place character has to give birth without making a sound. I've never been so terrified to see somebody pregnant lovely thing like seeing that seems destined to become one of film's iconic moments of suspense economical heavy sheet seems like I see three tanks through the ring is director on a few episodes of the office TV series. He started for nine season well this for my career.

I have to throw myself in front of a train Jim Halbert playing Jim helper paper salesman at the Gonder Mifflin Company. There was something about the fact that none of us have done anything hugely were all in this tiny capsule of almost all more like regional theater. Hey, Pam Krasinski's character was known for his wry looks and romance with receptionist a few years into the series. The Boston born actor was introduced to Blunt at a restaurant. I shook her hand and no joke in my head just now I knew immediately that this is really easy, and he was so funny and sweet and we talked to like five in the morning. That night picture Hallmark card was just like I felt like I'd known her forever. I'm sorry. Just some prior commitment to British actress, who'd broken fruit. When the devil wears Prada had just finished filming young Victoria in the screening and I'll never forget she was so good in the movie.

This really went through my head. I thought she did date next like Ryan gosling and I can't keep this from the couple recently made a video we want to go on a double date with you double date of the premier of their new film to raise money for them. A lot of you both kind of figures this year sent bank is for second year years.

Yeah that blunts I guess I held this summer.

Krasinski will bring back Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan series for Warren to go part is a crate sex saw this and in December, Blunt will resurrect an iconic children's character in Mary Poppins return, which she had to explain to her four-year-old daughter, Hazel was pretending to be Mary Poppins because this kind of how explain what we do for living. That was another lady that fell now. She's well probably rejects my fashion probably break my heart that Julie Andrews is Mary Poppins to Hazel last month John and Emily Blunt. The red carpet at the SXSW in Austin quiet place premiered to rave review night for only said what you want out of this experience. I said yes to that question. I said if they cheered up the cool so we get to the end of the movie and people actually jumped out of their seats and stood up and screamed and my wife just screamed at me doesn't get any better. Does not truly, I said to the crowd. I said I don't think I'll have a better experience. My career I'll never get this moment I'm Jane Pauley.

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