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I never knew how close many people who live with bipolar disorder are have deaths by suicide, change of plan closest campaign to rethink mental illness. Later on Sunday morning question for all our human minds to ponder.

Could it be that animals are smarter than us, Martha, Tyson, or was more than happy to look into that certain stories are more fun than others, and what's not to like about a polite conversation. Donna the elephant girl getting up close and personal with talkative dog's Sunday morning, the pleasures of exploring the will have those stories and more just ahead admiring your own handiwork is a familiar expression containing an important truth about the mind. We had this particular story to our Tony to Coble. Are you the kind of person who actually likes washing dishes. How about folding laundry, yard works really well is having, and of course they occupy our hands. As it turns out, some researchers think that may be key to making our brains very happy made up.

This term called behavior suitable pharmaceuticals, in the sense that when we moved to engage in activities we change the neurochemistry of our brain in ways that are a drug can change that working with Kelly Lambert is a neuroscientist at the University of Richmond who says our brains have evolved toward us for getting a grip on the world, which is why that 19th-century doctors used prescribed knitting to women who are overwrought with anxiety because I sense that it calm them down so it sounds simplistic but when you think about the repetitive movement is increasing certain neurochemicals that if you produce something a hot hat or scarf, there is the reward horse working with your hands is not always easy. Just as Matthew Croft, four-time mechanic, Virginia is literally boredom usually is proffered prefers some mixing cards. What he used to do as executive director of a think tank in Washington DC did your hands look like that. Probably not know clean but I was was always sleepy. I just there was no amount of coffee that could pick keep me awake in the garage using his hands.

Crawford finds it is mine goes into high gear and there are times when I crack some not away were all like run over kick the garbage can. Just out of elation. It was such a revelation. You wrote a best-selling book the subject, which taps into the same attraction that makes reality shows like forged fire top Chef project runway so popular is one color with all glorify and if you're making something painting or cooking, putting things together using both hands a little bit more creative way, ways that the more engaging for the brain, something a lot of us crave especially now as fewer of us do much at all with our hands.

As of 2015 jobs requiring social and analytical skills – jobs had increased 94% from 1980. While jobs requiring physical skills went up a mere 12% that has Kelly Lambert concerned there any trust he start to lose a sense of control over your environment. She's been using rodents to study the hand brain connection. Lambert says that rats made the dig for reward showed greater signs of mental health when compared to what she calls her trust fund rats got a pass on doing any physical work we took animal that was really into the environment and we just gave them rewards without having to work for them.

Stress hormones were not high.

They lost all of their benefit.

So turn ourselves in the trust fund rest scared we are. Yes, few of us arise in touch with our hands is sorry a form in her Brooklyn studio. She creates stunningly realistic portraits of iceberg, all with the tips of her fingers. They always just started using my hands from an early age and I think that something very personal about feeling the pigment myself with my hands and moving around and in a way that is a part of me as the artist into each piece that I make.

Yes I do okay what I made wasn't much more than this much now just around what I felt while doing it was something my brain truly appreciate this is before there were podcasts there was television.

Remember, see what's new under the sun every Sunday morning. Pat's often so much. It's easy to be convinced there lost and profound important thought. So just what they think we asked our resident animal lover, Martha, Tyson or to investigate the Boston terrier is trying to figure out how to get the treat hidden inside this what's going on in his mind if somebody asks you is my dog smart like a human is smart, how do you answer that question. I may what what's involved there is not fair or even correct to compare dog intelligence to human intelligence real question is what is a dog about seven years ago, Dr. Gregory Burns, a neuroscientist at Emory University had an idea if he could train dogs to hold still in an MRI of big if he could get some answers from foals here is living proof is one of more than 100 dogs who've taken part in MRI experiments involving everything from facial recognition to self-control truffles is being shown to toys and nose giraffe means treat whale no treat, but what about photographs of the toys. That's the reward center of the brain right where it is in humans. The point to find out if truffles reacts to the toys in the same way.

This is another dog scan it's too soon to say is just one dog. But what that tells me is not literally seeing the two equivalently seem to know the one is a photograph and when Israel brought not to be outdone by a dog, a 38-year-old African elephant, the Oakland California zoo makes the connection between a picture of a banana.

Her trainer shows her and the real thing that's important because if you can imagine object in your mind that means you can think about that object and plan around that object does not understand that picture of the banana represents a real banana.

That means that she can imagine that in mind Caitlin O'Connell Broadwell is an animal communication expert studies elephants and teaches at Stanford University. The elephant has the largest brain for body size bigger than if size matters and it does appear that size matters then elephants could possibly be smarter than us elephants are so much like us watching them caring about each other, watching their politics, elephant politics will yes elephant tics. As for communication, elephants understand us better than we understand them but behaviors.

Donna was taught to aid in her own care led to the test. That's what's so exciting about these cognitive experiments with Donna is that we can now ask her a lot of different questions. Donna understands English, you're a real treat machine. There's probably a lot more that she understands about language. Then we've figured out how to ask for. Thanks to technology, researchers are beginning to decide language the chirps and clicks that come from their blowholes looked at how mothers would retrieve their Which we can ask them to do IQ. Jill Richardson is a scientist at the University of Miami's Rosenstiel school of Marine and atmospheric science. Her work at the Dalton's plus sanctuary, Key Largo, Florida is involved, identifying each individuals signature whistle which is like its name to see the hand keel the chairs getting in thing is admitting a call. A variation of the mother's own whistle and a ram thing like until I come for dinner and then I the Respondent. It's like having the first and last name exactly like it like that are in big trouble and I really think were scratching the surface to The next step really is learning how they might string acoustic signals to gather in different ways to have different meanings like syntax speaking, these dolphins obey more than 50 this hand signal means create whatever you want to have the Dalton's taught you about humans. I think the thing is that maybe were not as smart as we think, and that to how we put some constraints on our understanding of intelligence when it might be this much more colorful and broad experience for these animals intelligence. We estimate because we don't know when so-called magic mushrooms have played their part in America's long strange trip toward an understanding of mind altering drugs illegal that most of these drugs may be sailing tells us. Recent research suggests some of them could have legitimate uses Celexa effects are Zoloft, trazodone, Waldman is no stranger to drugs, Wellbutrin. Oh my goodness they are diagnosed with a mood disorder. This author and mother of four had tried everything I was profoundly profoundly depressed, suicidally depressed. As bad as it ever been like that life. That's when she turned to a drug that might blow your mind that the first time to try asset that's right LSD in secret. Waldman actually began taking a minuscule amount every three days.

It's called micro-dosing, and it's a controversial, yet growing trend among the Silicon Valley crowd but for her. She says it worked don't hallucinate.

You don't see anything unusual, but it just as I can describe it a little more careful and a little more effective at work like a little more productive, so productive, in fact she wrote a book about her mind altering experiment, and most importantly her suicidal thoughts disappeared, but there was a catch. After a month she ran out of the small supplies she gotten hold of. Why did you stop my courtesy because it's illegal. If it weren't illegal taking LSD, even a micro dose of it is still against the law and potentially dangerous, but Once upon a time, LSD, and psychedelics like it were considered potential wonder drugs throughout the 40s, 50s and into the 60s.

Scientists studied them to understand mental disorders like schizophrenia, and to treat anxiety, depression and alcoholism.

But when drugs left the labs and started hitting the streets. Timothy Leary preached turn on dropout bad trips and even worse headlines that followed changed their reputation and then this nation faces a major crisis in terms of the increasing use of drugs, particularly among our young people. The controlled substance act led to a more than three decades long ban on all psychedelic research since 2003.

However, the FDA has allowed for a few clinical trials of illegal hallucinogens. Drugs like psilocybin psychedelic ingredient found in so-called magic mushrooms trials done in a safe, controlled setting, of course, do not try this at home.

This is the couch where people have the experience of this is a very special couch magic couch in 2016 Tony bosses of New York University, along with researchers at Johns Hopkins University published their findings of what a one time dose of silicide and continue to treat anxiety and depression in cancer patients in this study, anxiety and depression reduced dramatically.

Immediately after the experience. Just wanted this terrible daily anxiety go away Dina Bays or beat ovarian cancer back in 2010, but the fear of it returning, convinced her to volunteer for the study. In this treatment room. She was given the psilocybin in her life changing trip began. I saw my fear was a black mass under my ribs wasn't cancer it was the fear itself was just I was school to get out since I did that was gone when the drug war off the anxiety about her cancer returning was gone still is what remains she says is the powerful memory of that symbolic experience medicine to take ones that other systems a few hours, but generates a 3 to 4 hours credible transcendent experience is the memory of that experience that recalibrate how they view life and death of their existence and very spiritual insights if all that sounds a bit far out have shown psychedelics may increase connectivity among different regions of the brain areas that normally don't communicate with each other. Maybe it's time to take the sober careful scientific look at these medicines to revisit of the other health of a safe, effective, with more clinical trials on the horizon.

Researchers hope to open more minds about the potential of psychedelic drugs. One trip at a time when it comes to changing minds about mental illness and ending its stigma. Few people are more motivated than actress Glenn close. She's been talking to Tracy Smith. I your role in fatal attraction is one of your most memorable roles yes and outsource is considered one of the great villains of all time of the 20th century, stop, stop, go on and on and to face up to responsibilities in that 1987. Blockbuster actress Glenn close portrayed a woman scorned because you change a number to be no after an affair with a married man played by Michael Douglas. Looking back on it will now. I'm always amazed when I was researching all no one brought up the idea that she might have a mental disorder no one so that you might have a behavior triggered by something in her past.

I think if I was offered that script today. I would certainly look at it totally from a totally different point of view. That's because today Glenn close know something she didn't back then that mental illness runs in her own family. Her nephew Kalin has schizophrenia and Glenn sister Jesse has bipolar disorder. How long did you struggle with mental illness before you were diagnosed my whole life until I was diagnosed at 51 took that long. It wasn't taken seriously and I live very fast and wildlife so nobody suspected anything they just attributed it to me. That's how I was stay up for two nights and then I would think I need at least a few hours sleep on the third night, which of course kicks in depression and depression for me was beyond the blackness it was wanting to die.

I had this voice in my head that would just not leave me alone saying kill yourself, kill yourself for leaders over, over and over in 2003, a frightened Jesse confided her suicidal thoughts to her sister and they got help how close to think you were to loosen her very close. I never knew how close many people who live with bipolar disorder have deaths by suicide. The sisters say Jesse's treatment was successful because Jesse wanted help, but they also say, far too many people are still suffering in silence and when I became an advocate I realize that it is a family affair for one in four of us wanting for yes is touched in some way by mental illness. So it became obvious to me that we have to talk about change of thinking led Jeff to start a foundation bring change to mind creates multimedia campaigns and holds events to get people to talk about mental health support of family and friends for life. It's time to talk about mental illness start the conversation to let those that might feel marginalized or silenced by stigma to become part of a group and accepted will save lives.

Rain changed mind also focuses on college and high school students age group with the highest evidence of mental illness in the subject of recent headlines.

It seems like we usually hear about mental illness with violence. The school shooting in Florida. Does that present an accurate picture biggest majority of people living with mental illness are more preyed upon than praying upon, but it does seem to be that somebody does one of these terrible acts is suffering from some sort of mental disorder. The answer she says is more reliable funding for mental health care, and maybe a little more care for each other. A lot of times lot of isolation goes on, which is dangerous to be aware of how connected we truly are, and of one's one connection is broken, the terrible repercussions so we can't afford to ignore.

And to think of somebody else's problem.

Glenn close and her sister Jesse say they'll keep working until mental illness is seen as just what it is another part of being human. I never got bunches of roses. When I got home from the hospital. If I had had a heart operation. I'm sure all my friends that have been there with food and flowers, people behaving strangely or badly is not considered illness is it is is just an illness six coming soon mode obituaries a podcast on matters of death and life from Mo Rocca mental abilities of savants never fail to astonish Susan Spencer will be introducing us to some remarkable people. How many calories have you been in three galleries at the moment. Artist George Weidner could spend countless hours only counting 512 1926. There were two knives and counting and counting. You get the idea. So long is ours is awash in numbers and dates and days and so is his head. If you look at August 1968 August 7 1421 28 or Wednesdays. Part George is what's known as a calendar savant.

What exactly is a calendar salon Savon expert Dr. Darrell Trafford owner savants are able to defy particular date fallen in the past or future pure theory is that this is just prewired at the factory. If it will installed factory installed ability. Most of us need Google George needs a few seconds.

Let me throw a few dates that you hear is skill is so remarkable that you really do have to see it to believe it. December 2, 2018. December 2 22 Sunday, January 3, 2015 January 3, 2015 looks like this letter.

Valentine's Day 1956 Tuesday that's my sister's birthday. Okay, when is Christmas next on Wednesday 2019. Looks like you haven't missed one yet. We moved on to the celebrity bonus route. Elvis died August 16, 1977 and that was a Tuesday. Luciana Pavarotti was born October 12, 1930 5/1235 seven Pres. Lincoln February 12, 1809, Sunday and dated when George produces a date. Is this a conscious thought about it appears George is a high functioning savant able to live independently and he is doing quite well loved doing the stuff you love doing this at the Manhattan gallery where we met him. His heart cells quickly for tens of thousands of dollars, but George seems happiest about something far more fundamental.

It's been wonderful that I've been able to use you know what's inside of me and to feel like I have a useful purpose. Today I own and Steve Kuhn are have been happily married for more than four decades, but in 2013. They got some shattering news. She was diagnosed 57 and the diagnosis was early onset of devastating for both of us for years now. Steve has been watching. I own gradually lose her grasp on much of daily life the way you did this, but to his amazement, he is also seen her gain something entirely unexpected. Tell me about this one for my own has started painting.

Intense colors like colors.

Yes, something the former dental assistant had never even thought about doing before her illness.

Once I finish one I want to start another one and finish that start another one.

This almost seems to be an obsession.

It is her new occupation neurologist Bruce Miller directs the UCSF memory and aging Center in San Francisco. He's uncovered an unexpected and remarkable connection between savants and dementia patients who like I own.

Suddenly exhibit new talents so they would have trouble communicating but they could pick up a paintbrush and paint yes some of the most beautiful art I've ever seen has come out of my patients with degenerative diseases over here is some pending by Jack Dr. Miller's office is a small gallery of his patients artwork and this is somebody also would never painted before never even stepped into an art museum in his research, Dr. Miller compared brain scans of dementia patients with those of a child savant. We are seeing the same pattern of loss of function on the left side of the brain, increase function in the right posterior parts of the brain.

The parts that allow us to take something visual in our mind and put it on the campus's conclusion in these rare dementia patients so-called acquired savants the disease that destroys some brain areas activates others unlocking hidden talent wow is fairly exciting stuff very much is humanize my patients for me. Does the brain ever cease to amaze you. Never ever Jane Pauley.

We hope you've enjoyed and learned from our journey into mind matters and we hope you'll join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning progress and crazy time is the point is we need people in the best way to protect good people is to convict final season Millstream