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I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning. The new school year is upon us. A time of new beginnings for students and teachers, though it's way too early to say how this fall, students are doing is discouraging news about how America's teachers are faring talking to Coble offers us a real education there are few professions people say they admire more than teaching for many classroom today. Admiration doesn't always feel like respect teachers are viewed as part of a solution to help students to help society is the problem later on Sunday morning, the plight and Lope of the public school teacher profile this morning is of Angie Dickinson and actress who first found start up more than half a century ago shall be looking back with our maraca. Few stars have ever had. Angie Dickinson's potent mix of talent looks and smarts to help your dating life. Now get out my old I am dating some young guy calls first, Angie Dickinson, laying her cards on the table ahead on Sunday morning I got there still time left for summer song Tracy Smith catches up with one of the biggest groups of the recent past world Backstreet Boys are on top but their 26 year rise all harmony hardly also quite hard right foot has been a lot but their 26 year journey later on from time to time. This new season will be sharing screen time with Ben Mankiewicz heir to a storied Hollywood family will give us an insiders look at the movies town with you old-school film producer keeps making movie magic does your name woodworker what you do for a living, make movies, he makes movies all right raging bull right stuff later on Sunday morning okay we can wrap David Pogue looks back on 1/2 a century of New York magazine Jim Gaffigan bemoans back to school days and more coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues well equipped classroom for real education, but the key ingredient is good teachers. So how are teachers doing as this new school year begins.

Our cover story as reported by Tony to Coble. There's no denying that summer is over and that means back to school time when many of Paris: birds high school English Norman, Oklahoma, have put their summer jobs behind her focus on school, her not so much on your holding school and then come here yes I did get to school, typically on a and technically off the clock at 420 things at the school had over here. The 29-year-old had a retail job back in college, but after getting a Masters degree. She thought those days were behind her people to understand that I don't think anyone could've really prepared me for how close nationwide. About one in five teachers has a second job during the school year, which is not so surprising when you consider that since 1996, inflation-adjusted pay for a public school teacher has actually fallen. The average annual teacher salary today just over $60,000 with nearly 1/3 making less than $45,000 a year including periscope number. Over those flat falling wages hopes for Camus, one that in the last 18 months is swept through conservative red states and cities as tens of thousands of teachers walked off the job for them have risen. Dana Goldstein is an education for the New York Times and author of the 2014 book about the history of teaching. She says Lope has been a problem since the early 1800s time when most teachers in America were men came time to have a public education for American can class. Now a father I have an idea.

Let's bring women teachers can expand public education that will not cost quite as much a women is much, much Goldstein says the recent strikes are about more than just pay. She says many teachers simply don't feel respected education standards in relation schools today came in for blistering criticism feeling she traces back to a landmark 1983 report from the regular nation at risk for a nation done to our schools. What we ourselves have done to them we would be justified in calling it an act of war teachers that sort of allow intellectual teachers what to blame for kids having low test scores and not been able to compete internationally so was only that schools are failing it was. Teachers are failing. Yes, it's a big change. I like the bank tans and I think for many teachers. That was the beginning of feeling that they were being unfairly portrayed and unfairly treated competition as new mandates to improve test scores track student progress and justify every lesson piling up everyone else. It seemed piled on teachers. When I was in that classroom. I was the best teacher they could ever have 16 people how to share the pizza. This is all you're getting inside his fourth-grade classroom near Tulsa. Eric Weingartner, I felt like I was making a difference is going to be the larger ones. They were right. But increasing demands outside the classroom gotten away when I first started teaching you would might have one meeting a month when I left you would have two meetings a week. You also have two meetings during the school day. You might have one more in the amount of paperwork is in saying how the hours well that's with a country like you're not get summers off you get every vacation. Often you're only there for seven hours a day that is not true at all the behind-the-scenes all the things required of you to take up your time. So yes my left the classroom, you will be there before they get their new leader long enough and it was challenging to do it all on a teacher's salary in Oklahoma. We bought our first house.

The only way we can order it was we had to take on multiple jobs I worked at Sears and also worked as a janitor at the school district to get out of school. I would change my close and go right to judge what I do. That's about 99 30 when Oklahoma teachers walked out last year they hadn't had a raise in a decade after 10 days when they returned the race they got fell thousands of dollars short of what they'd asked for not wait another 10 years for $6000 away and so after 15 years as a teacher.

The 40-year-old left the profession he now works in a factory making $12,000 30,000 teachers like him have left Oklahoma classrooms in the last six years alone part of a nationwide trend contributing to teacher shortages all over the country. Cara Stoltenberg says the Exodus is hard to watch in the English department lost 26 teachers and their teachers will love this career. The most painful part is that students are the ones who file attached to this teachers they look forward to having them. Students having was a comfort care.

See how hard we work. Former Oklahoma teacher Carrie Hicks also decided to give up on teaching, but she didn't give up on education or source having an education committee hi Carrie Hicks, science teacher 28 states he put his hand up until he is lying and knowing that the average class size is 16 know where you're getting your numbers but I've been in education for seven years and never had a class-size lesson 23. So we decided that moment that if they were unwilling to do the job I could get better.

Hicks decided to run for the state Senate in Oklahoma, one of dozens of teachers who ran for political office all across the country last year. The results were mixed, but Hicks defeated a long serving senator who voted against raising teacher pay for not willing to put more dollars into the classroom for not willing to invest in the people there is classrooms either thing. What is left for public education.

Polls show that when teachers strike for higher pay their communities overwhelmingly support them. But consider this when given the chance to actually pay teachers more by approving tax increases. Very often those same voters say no. Until that changes Harris Totenberg says many teachers will continue to struggle, so their students won't have to ask my students. I don't want them to suffer at all because of strength lie not getting the funding were not getting their stomach at work until now.

Thanks from our Sunday morning on September 15 19 465 day celebrated, albeit very elated wardrobe malfunction was the day Marilyn Monroe posed over a New York City subway grate for memorable scene in the movie the seven year with looking on cost of maintenance of the movies wind from the trains below repeatedly blew Marilyn's white dress-up unladylike heights. Publicity photos from that predawn shoes are famous worldwide, but crowd noise force the scene with time you'll to be reshot weeks later on a Hollywood soundstage intended as a visual gag. Monroe's husband at the time the pinstriped and straightlaced Yankee legend Joe DiMaggio failed to see the humor and the scene reputedly played a role in their divorce still that Marilyn Monroe moment lives on to this day, both in the photographs in the form of a 26 foot tall statue title forever. Marilyn was a big hit Backstreet Boys in 1999 all these years later the boys are back in a big way.

There's Tracy Smith with the summer song or not you were alive in the 90s probably backstreet that all right back in the day fans, a frenzy with more than one record sold worldwide main selling boy band their new album, DNA has brought new life to the band and their first chart topper for the decking. The boys are really harder how we Jerome David Brian Luttrell, Evan Richard when my heart shot to number one on iTunes action happening. This was the scene at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles where the guys helped open Backstreet Boys interacting fans who grew up screaming and dreaming of a close encounter on display treasures. From there you like the costumes from their first hit in America.

I remember this from the video, but they were a lot wetter.

One of them was someone with you Holly always was pretty much all Roman brought them together in 1993 Kevin was 21 was just 13 boy band became a sometimes dysfunctional family on my pension when I was 13, my parents had signed over guardianship that he was actually raising me on the road at like 1314 years old we love hard right that chemistry work in 1999 there album sold more than a million copies below is the boys cranked out there and stand but all the while they affectionately called big Poppa was cheating them raking in millions while the boys were still struggling to pay bills when they found out they sued, then settled you're looking at five individuals that paid $5 million apiece to of their lives also you and you guys we paid him to get rid of. We all loved him and admired him and looked up to him as a businessman when the curtain was pulled back, it was revealed that he was ripping us off and taking it manage of us broke the drama took its toll. First Ajay, then next battle drug and alcohol abuse, and in 2006 Kevin left the band, but the man refused to every reality TV program come to us and said all we can find another sign on we would like build the house and built this career for 26 years with a part of Kevin's blood sweat and tears were replacing we will never turn our backs on each other is used to and their bond was tested again in the documentary showing what you're made of. Brian sang lead on so many hits revealed. He suffers from muscle tension dysphonia Sibley put under stress. He loses his voice to voice you had issue work in progress. As you know that I can talk to you right now probably before five years ago was not able to. If you can't talk therapy a lot of soul-searching guys ever say to you what you out. No, no, never said how she does it all the band 2017 launched a Las Vegas resident became the fastest selling show in Vegas history embracing the resurgence began releasing decided to take a chance on a new world years. They retreated far from the lights of the Vegas strip to a rehearsal studio in the historic town of living spheres of anticipation. This tour to me is like a second longer an issue. Boys are all married children slow. Brian watched his 16-year-old son open their show for the first time in Washington DC. And backstage addressing is now family room like minutes before you're about to go and here we are a family and it all began to for us to stay on this study past last 26 years and never falter. It actually worked. You know, it paid off and staying power to make the guys feel good even larger than life American cities.

Maybe yours have a so-called setting magazine. Paul tells us about one of the first best even if you're not, you may know, the first magazines men and women is one national magazine.

Not long ago celebrated its 50th was never really the city's way of looking at the world a certain kind of curiosity, cynicism, and also openness and generosity to new ideas. This can after 15 years. Adam Moss recently stepped down as a veteran. She can you give us the origin story of his magazine sure yeah. Once upon a time there was a newspaper New York New York Herald Tribune had a Sunday magazine called New York and Clay Felker is the editor and Glaser was the art director when the Tribune folded in 1967 Glaser and Felker bought the name New York from its owners and in 1968 the magazine as we know it was born here is around is still the plan was like a movie. Let's do a magazine.

Milton Glaser is still around. Example of what we would do these 90 and very cogent great lives of culture is the light of retirement certain point in your life at 65 forgot say you're working to go to Florida spell out the window for next 30 years. Where in the world that idea come from. You've probably seen some of the posters is designed or his famous I love New York logo article from Clay Felker we did it together this building was a boy from the middle West whose nose pressed against the windows of the rich and famous in New York and I was a Jewish boy from the Bronx who knew Susie up and was interested in working-class left-wing politics. I work completely in tune with current ideas we want to express ideas expressed in articles by legendary writers like Tom Wolfe, Jimmy Breslin nor Ephron Gloria Steinem and Frank Rich and through iconic covers always stamped with Glaser's famous logo. This is probably our most famous coverages called Cosby. The women Adam Moss took me into the archives at the time nobody was paying any attention to Bill Cosby and the accusations were all isolated and what really made the cover was the center chair which symbolized all the other people and yet come forward and the cover that followed hurricane Sandy's disastrous impact your call. Half of New York was blacked out.

The photographer actually was able to take pictures from the helicopter 99.9% of which were unusable.

I think you three usable frame because of the movement of the helicopter in an age when dozens of venerable magazines have gone to the great newsstand in the sky. It's impressive that New York is still in print.

One key reason Adam Moss started publishing the magazine on the Internet early leading the charge, I guess. Today there are five spinoff websites with a total of 50 million readers a month.

Intelligencer the cut vulture grub Street and the strategist I myself right tech reviews for the strategist I feel like they're sort of could be a standalone website under the umbrella magazine, Allison P.

Davis rights for both the printed magazine and the cut is there any less clamor to writing for digital only enterprise and appropriate one thing we worked really hard to make our digital brands just as petite and thoughtful and sharp as our print magazines like this. I think our readers is different in your official title is energy near pricing wow yeah no I didn't. After serving as an editor for 12 years. David Haskell has just become the magazine's new editor-in-chief as nervous making as it is to step into the job.

I feel like I understand what this place is about even with his web success, New York magazine has had to make some tough choices in 2014. It went from weekly publication to every other weekly earlier this year the company laid off 5% of its staff, and as of late last year. Once you've read a few articles for free you're asked to pay five dollars a month for access to its website were ever to be your first read of the day, but I think will be I hope will be your favorite New York magazine is certainly one of Milton Glaser's favorites. What was a wonderful time for me. Could you ever imagined that 51 years later came over some good ideas that will usually give a couple must what it comes to watering the flag of us can match the enthusiasm of the little patriot Steve Hartman for six daily West Hartford, Connecticut. The best view in his house from the front door looking at the flag has down syndrome is also autistic combination that, according to his parents government.

Brooke has blessed with a deep appreciation for the fly movement. If it's moving. If the wind is blowing there for an hour and just watch the flag go back and forth, which is kind of the beauty offend to somehow he is found comfort in contentment in this like most of us take for granted and is not just his own blood were fortunate. We have a lot of flags in the neighborhood so long and slow walks. My body was on one of those walks with the family and discovered his flag to resist all real beauty mounted on a tree right over the sidewalk, a quarter-mile from his house and would make camp on that sidewalk that the flag belongs to a man named Todd disc boy would just sit there transfixed by the flag so God bless America want to look at my flagman, for life. Not long after he saw he saw little that little patron just left it out by the tree for friends, family to discover I'm crying and my daughter wrote the thing don't cry mom. It's okay this is exciting, just a little overwhelming, but in a Good Way, Norman Rockwell could imagine a more uniquely American moment of vision of strength and compassion. In one glorious frame all created by a master of kindness with nothing more on his pallet that a circular saw such a small gesture, but it just things like this really restore your faith in humanity there still people out there that want to do, kind things for no other reason but just to be kind for no other reason which may be the best reasonable Dickinson is a Hollywood star if ever there was one, and she has plenty of stories to tell us what rock I found out he paid her a visit for our Sunday profile. If you are critic doing a review of your life so far.

What would you say oh my God, that one cave in which well not exactly lock turning head during the filming is 1/2 master class in the art of seduction joint section, I wouldn't want to be known as only sex I wanted to be known as an actress equally or even more so like Marilyn Munro. She was known as the greatest, and rightly so. Sex symbol of all time try to do Shakespeare. After that Angie was always more down to earth rough-and-tumble and Marilyn willing to go Mono Mono with a tough guy like Marvin. Do you consider yourself more about fraud a Dane or a gal all she was born Angie Brown in September 1931. Yes, she's 87 and column North Dakota population around 740 I grew up going to movies like daddy listed projectionist so we got in for free love movies.

It burned down and we cried for a week you cried for what we owe it to us. I decided to give up movies for Lent, since the movie back so many memories of that. I don't think about normally after the family moved to California, Dickinson found work as a secretary and competed in beauty pageants which led to a spot on the Colgate comedy hour, and Jimmy Durante was singing with Frank's I was. I said this is for me. She appeared in a bunch of TV Westerns in 1959 starting Rio bravo opposite her childhood hero John Wayne say what me to mean the same thing you know, say my parents were Democrats and I was a Democrat and John Wayne was a Republican digest of trepidation before you met him then about getting too close to him and ending up discussing politics, and I was afraid that I was afraid I get to like him and that would be a problem to play stuntman taught Dickinson to play poker.

Decades ago, while the play was and she still planning. I played for 35 years with the Gershwin's 1960.

She costarred with the rat packing Ocean's Eleven. She ended up dating Frank Sinatra. We got very close to getting married in 1964 Sinatra's late-night lifestyle wasn't for her and he said you know I'm not going to marry an actress and I said no I don't blame you. I wouldn't wish that on anybody, and I actually didn't want to marry so I didn't want him to ask me to marry him because I didn't want to say no to Frank's truck. There have long been rumors that Dickinson and Pres. John F. Kennedy had an affair rumors she's consistently denied. There was no reason or no grounds for thinking that I was seeing wasn't like I just ask district did he ever put the moves on you know I said I like it here 1964, a future Pres. Ronald Reagan did slap Dickinson across the face in the movie, which also starred John Casavant, each chemistry with lactation do you mean that you liked each other just working with each other that there was no way we like each other as man and woman and as actors not romance something in between right and not falling, but it's more than just I like working with you know it's much closer than you really really like each other like if things were different. We go out that's chemistry it happens on movie sets you attractive people in 1965, Dickinson married one of the country's most successful songwriters. What made you fall for Bert, well that's very hard to summarize. He was so different they separated in 1976 was very happy. Too much too much. He should never have been married in his autobiography, Bachrach fessed up to his infidelity. He never loved me and I can tell you that right now. The way one locks he loved in his own way, which is not too good. And so he had no respect for me that you love him yeah I liked him a lot, parking cars and gas. Sgt. Anderson on policewoman David Gerber was the producer and he said don't you want to be a household name. I realized I wanted to be a household name. Is it true that there was a surgeon application from women to join the police force search and lot of fan letters with that. I became a cop Dickinson became almost as well known for her appearances on the Tonight Show chemistry with Johnny Carson. I love movies I love dinner party. I love you tonic relation all broken off.

Things happen.

Angie Dickinson is always been Frank and her opinions on sexual matters, including the topic that is roiled Hollywood for the past two years to class what you think of the me to movement. I hated it's all out of proportion.

Like my hand saying open robe is not a rape listen. I'm sure men misbehaved she would go one more short. Dickinson lives alone now in Beverly Hills daughter from her marriage. Bachrach died in 2007. What are your best memories of Nicky. She was very smart and funny. So all the memories of her. My best three months premature, Nicky suffered chronic health problems, including severe eye sight loss and asked burgers syndrome. If she hit me she would hit me out of frustration of not being able to cope with whatever it was was her problem.

She had no coping skills so she just took her life.

She couldn't take it. Nicky was 40 years old. She was a wonderful, wonderful gift. What you think about when you look out here that I hope I never die. Really, it's beautiful as Sunday. I will Back to school words guaranteed to strike fear in the hearts of children and our Jim Gaffigan summer is over my too many children will finally be heading back to school.

I'm not sure why a six-year-old. Even gets 10 weeks of summer vacation, but I don't make up the rules maybe first grade is harder to remember next week. Children throughout the country will be back in school. Well, except for the kids that are homeschooled will be back still back to school is presented in popular culture as a time of celebration by school supplies as if children start school somehow means the parents begin some vacation.

You think parents are just dying to get rid of their children. We are, we most deafly are.

But sadly, somewhere along the line back to school started to include parental applications, parent coffees, welcome assemblies, curriculum nights, no parents have to go back to school. Not only are these fake commitments unfair. It's a real issue when you have five children, which I do. I know some of that's my fault. My September will be filled with too many back-to-school obligations. I'm dreading the parent coffees having to pretend like I'm interested in hearing about where some other dad play golf this summer.

Some of you. These commitments don't sound that bad but believe me they are always back-to-school parent events not only eat up my precious time, but they dampen the joy I feel in seeing my children leave for school in the morning before I go back to bed. Back-to-school should be for children only. I know my father never had to attend any of these things. My dad never went to a curriculum night or class coffee or a parent-teacher conference like that even know I went to school and I turned out fine right on screen time and occasional behind-the-scenes look at the movies were delighted to welcome Turner classic movies host Mankiewicz, himself a member of a distinguished Hollywood family as our guide. Here's the pitch of Coney Island kid with nothing to lose.

Strike is a Hollywood kingmaker for the man on the phone. It's not a story to sell his life as a producer and director. Now 88. That's the scripts of all the movies are made when he scripted himself for more than half a century, tell us your name or would like to do for a living, make movies, yet movies all right for 52 years Winkler has bankrolled and brought to the screen better than 50 films.

Maybe you heard of Rocky raging bull the right stuff by films of 112 Academy nominated for 5555 impressive numbers, especially considering the random way he got into the business after serving in the Army.

Whittler says he had no earthly idea what to do with his life. He was reading a bestseller by Harold Robbins and somehow Erwin Winkler found his calling. I read the carpetbaggers and was a character that was an agent I thought it was kinda interesting. I was wearing a black suit and a white shirt and tie and why not Winkler became an agent and then quickly started producing films is first was 1969 during Jane Fonda as a contestant in a dance marathon during the Great Depression raceway is not nine Academy award nomination.

When I read that script. This is really a story worth telling. A few years later Winkler is sitting in his Los Angeles office, when an unknown actor named Sylvester Stallone walks in looking for work.

Winkler doesn't have a part for but then Stallone says something interesting.

He says that by the way, I'm also a writer. Well I will write it looks like, but he certainly wasn't it that he didn't sound like a writer's body language is more like a fighter than a writer, but Stallone had an idea. He told us a story about Rocky chance of a lifetime. He said all right description nothing is only one thing if you like it you have to stormy in the film gave the script to studio and they call this again one.

Why did want to make a movie about this broken down fighter you want to shoot Philadelphia and the researchers want to store Stallone. No name actor who loses but everyone involved with Rocky becomes my phone the highest grossing movie of 1976 the only one to break $100 million. We have right here where you have a little fellow, Alaska Winkler and his partner, Bob Sharda won best picture and invited Stallone up on stage with next. Winkler takes on another boxing picture raging bull with Robert De Niro as middleweight champ Jake LaMotta, this time working with the director would become a longtime collaborator, Martin Scorsese why he is never afraid to do anything that's different is no fear. I saw him work telephones and make deals like in 15 minutes that were amazing maneuvering but working very clever aspects of different deals in different actors and if he can get it done. I don't know who. Case in point Scorsese wanted raging bull shot in black and white.

The studio balked. This was 1989, 1930, but Winkler had his back executives hated the script will how to meeting up in Martin Scorsese's apartment. They were asking about the black and white and then Irving pointed out, he said, look at the other two films are black and white were hits Lenny and paper Moon cake pull that out. They were coming up to cancel the film, but he never let us know that that's a good production yeah all 10 years later they teamed up again for good fellow, telling the story of the rise and fall of mobster Henry Hill and again they battled executives who he says pressed for Tom Cruise and Madonna to play the lead roles want Madonna to play the Jewish wife of Henry Hill, Lorraine Rocco, the rocket we should know start laughing. What about Tom Cruise playing Henry no, just to be clear, Warner Bros. Tom Cruise and Madonna in Goodfellas. Yes, Winkler says he also wasn't sold on Rayleigh odors Henry Hill anybody heard a really you know, especially me. But Scorsese made a strong case is in Venice film Festival. Ray came up to me and the bodyguards went towards him and the way he handled that I thought was very tough.

There's a slight threat in his body language countering. There's you like that yeah that's the guy I thought Irwin nearly 30 years after Goodfellas Winkler Scorsese and De Niro are reuniting again for the Irishman the film about the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Do also stars Al Pacino and Joe Pesce you're proud of you. I think through and I think it's also the coming together of people out of work together overly since what kids together. Most your writing right out here I have a kind of a happy chair as quiet as you can see quiet and quite comfortable at his Beverly Hills home Winkler doesn't just direct and produce the rights to no thoughts of nominal I'm helping my mind is good I guess. And why not. I think age is just something it's a number depends on whether the number is good or keep you down or keep you up, I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning.

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