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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com good morning. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning this coming week marks the 90th anniversary of the start of the 1929 stock market crash. The crash that led to the Great Depression.

The name of then Pres. Herbert Hoover often comes to mind when the big crash is the subject, but do we have that right is that much derided figure the real Herbert Hoover maraca takes a look at our Sunday morning cover story Hoover's name usually appears near the bottom of presidential rankings is the guy who gave us the Great Depression.

This man lived 90 years and he is charged for four which is a shame because Hoover's life leading up to the presidency was quite simply remarkable how many people did Hoover and the commission in defeating between 70 million. The real Herbert Hoover ahead on Sunday morning leak out what is in conversation this morning with three wiseguys collaborating on a movie for the very first time.

Well here we are each a tree will talk Chino first names need granite of the film that has the awesome friend about love about betrayal. Ultimately, and it's about what a human being is Sunday morning master class and fill have no accent is no problem for the thrill seekers. Our David Pogue has joined up with all of the country, friends, colleagues, even CBS Sunday morning correspondence are paying to be locked up in a room together. One hour to escape them for the rest of the day will be talking about the fun they had the latest entertainment craze escape route will tell you all about leader Sunday morning, half-century after her death, Janis Joplin still reigns as one of the most intriguing names in pop music box reveals some unknown details of her life and Anthony Mason will give us a read.

She was the queen of the counterculture aspire to be the generation she did not ever see a family that she did not try to jump up and down later on Sunday morning a new biography shines on. On the cosmic blues with Martha Tyson or will follow Harriet Tubman's road to freedom watch Luke Burbank risking life and limb boarding and more coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues. Herbert Hoover died 55 years ago today.

His name forever linked to the stock market crash of 1929 and the Great Depression that followed a small rock out will tell us there's a case to be made at the real Herbert Hoover was a far better man than the caricature in late October 1929 after years of rising to dizzying heights. The stock market collapsed, ushering in one of the longest and most painful chapters in American history.

Herbert Hoover had been president for less than a year who decides to call it depression. Hoover actually Kenneth White is the author of a biography of Hoover before the bills called them panics. He liked the word depression.

I don't think he anticipated that it would be one that would be stuck to them for the rest of his life and that's no exaggeration.

Consider the 1977 Broadway new Sigel, Annie, where this correspondent first heard the name Herbert Hoover Morris of slum dwellers mockingly thanks the president did the musical Annie and all you would still like burning like people don't know the whole story. Margaret Hoover is the host of PBS's firing line who you think would play in the movie and the great-granddaughter of the 31st president, and I had a This man lived 90 years and he is charged for four and that's a shame, since Hoover's life for entering the White House was quite simply remarkable. He would tear with his brother younger sister disparate little house two rooms talk about modest background.

Hoover was born in 1874 in the village of West branch, Iowa.

His father died. Herbert is about six and then his mother died a few years later he was nine, the orphaned bird as he was known was put on the train and sent 2000 miles west to live with his uncle's family in Newburgh Oregon. Their only son was killed and very tragic hay wagon accident, so Herbert was essentially central Oregon to kind of replace the song that is uncle and aunt had lost in some ways, yes, that he definitely had to earn his board here.

You think you have been happy if you are reading onions all day. Sarah Munroe is the director of the Hoover min Thorne house in Newburgh wasn't affectionate home. Particularly, I think it was very strict, absent the unconditional love of his birth family. Bert threw himself into work, determined to win respect and award you need to prove himself also an abundance of physical energy, intellectual energy outlets was accepted into the very first class of Stanford University studying geology preparation for a career as a mining engineer Hoover's talent for turning around unproductive minds made him very much in demand. The world over in his early 20s. He's running gold mines in Australia. In his mid-20s is off in China is relentless drive and his willingness to do whatever was necessary paid off peak made several fortunes as early as is 20s retired at the start of the first world war, with about three to $4 million in assets now with Hoover's obit had been written in 1914, he would've been remembered as a talented engineer turned business magnate's response to World War I turned him into something far greater. When the war broke out 120,000 Americans were stranded in Europe, Herbert Hoover, a private citizen living in London assembled the ships to get the Americans home. Hoover followed the speed with an even more stunning one. Germany invaded Belgium and cut off its food supply. The US still neutral was reluctant to get involved.

Everyone is arguing they didn't have responsibility to feed the Belgians. Hoover said I'll feed them but me through pretty much bullied his way through both lines. Hoover himself, convinced both the British and Germans to allow delivery of millions of tons of food to the starving Belgians is feeling as though he were his own State Department as he put it, defeating my school. Tom Schwartz is director of the Hoover presidential library and museum. How many people did Hoover and the commission in defeating between 70 million and he became known as the great humanitarian. I still get emails and letters of people who were Hoover went from saving European lives to modernizing American lives as secretary of commerce under Presidents Harding and Coolidge Hoover set standards for everything from electric light sockets to milk bottles, get this, the dairy industry had previously had 42 different sized containers for milk. Hoover was the one who got them to do it by pint court half-gallon and gallon, and he brought order and safety traffic lights to standardize it's a Redman stop agreement.

Go heated that. But wait there's more. Hoover more or less laid the groundwork for the commercial aviation industry oversaw the development of what became the Hoover dam and as the country's unofficial innovator in chief Hoover was the very first person to appear on a live television broadcast is a very modern man is yes and in his spare time, Hoover and his wife Lou, one of the first women in America to earn a degree in geology, translated in ancient mining text from the original Latin.

Their real mining geeks.

This was published in 1912, it remains in print when the great Mississippi flood of 1927 displaced hundreds of thousands. It was a foregone conclusion, Hoover would lead the relief effort wrote the resulting wave of adulation. The Republican nomination for president in 1928 and a landslide victory. I write only eight months later came black Tuesday, Franklin Delano Roosevelt would sweep Hoover out of office after a single term.

The Great Depression lasted twice as long under FDR than it did under Hoover. So why does Hoover get stuck owning the depression because when Roosevelt came in and he labeled it the Hoover depression and he never stopped calling it the Hoover depression throughout the whole of his presidency, it was FDR's successor, Harry Truman, who welcomed Hoover back into public life and Hoover is enormously grateful for that gesture in 1962 on Hoover's 88th birthday is presidential library was dedicated defeat on the humble dwelling he'd been born in former Pres. Truman delivered remarks career.

By the end of his life.

He was rather proud of the fact that he was the only living American, with the depression main bathroom serious yes and he could joke about what it took him a long time to get there so long now page from our Sunday morning almanac October 20, 1882, 137 years ago today the future actress known as Margaret Dumont was born in Brooklyn on Broadway regular by the 1920s. Dumont found lasting fame. Once she started appearing with me dancing with you. Tall and regal and bearing her character provided the perfect foil to the wisecracking Groucho in a series of films including the 1933 classic ducks set in the mythical land Freedonia ice is her character seeming obliviousness to insults led to the widespread belief encouraged by Groucho himself that Dumont was a humorless person who never got the joke about you remind me of you, except you only see contradicted in the 1942 interview. I'm not a student. She said I'm a straight lady is in our hearts to playing straight.

You must build up your man, but never taught them never steal the laughs from. Believe me when I say well anyway Margaret Dumont died in 1965. But for Marx Brothers fans are exchanges with Groucho never grow old. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put on my to something we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters where ever you get your podcasts is more than the title of the play by Jean-Paul Sartre is David Pogue and company, not six. Ordinarily it takes only one Sunday morning correspondence story number dialed number today. Working as a team. Hoover Jaeger Hoover Martha Teicher Nancy Giles and me plus Sunday morning intern Cory pure apparently were locked in the CIA office with one hour to escape for a bomb goes off and here's the crazy part okay yeah we paid for this nine minutes. 55. Second, we're playing an escape room. This one is called clew chase in New York City you pay 25 or 30 bucks you have one hour to look for clues and unravel a mystery that was it like video games with ordained like a movie like a play. Yes, husband-and-wife David and Lisa Spira have played over 700 escape rooms and the clock told the key of the estimated 8000 around the world. We need to fear, who were seated out the right is@theirwebsiteroomescapeartist.com if they bring is an immersive care for a group of people, your family, friends, whom ever you want to play with. Maybe your stopping the missiles for launching or you're in search of the holy Grail. Why would anyone want to be shut into a room for an hour is bizarrely revolutionary in 2019 to go and do something in real life with the people that you care about and not have a screen in front of you. You get things like that and figure out what it is and where to put in black that looks like it might go here for sure rich by the way, you're not actually locked in and there's not an actual bomb print are never alone either behind the scenes staff member is always watching escape room started in Japan in 2007 since they started opening in the US in 2012.

They've been growing even showing up on some shelves so as there was even a hit about an escape room with no escape getting more elaborate. If you want proof, check out 13th gate Baton Rouge, Louisiana it's like being inside a movie my teammates this time included Tim Nicholas Tang beer barrel. He's an escape room super fan traveled all the way from Las Vegas to play 13th gate will remember your peace and put on the course, we wouldn't want to give away any of the surprises on national television. So were going to take some precautionary measures really enjoyed it.

I thought that the best with really nice and then we had to go in the with the with the guys that would be this guy 13th gate creator and owner Duane Sandberg there is an entire ship built that my crew there just amazing talented guys.

A lot of them came out, the movie industry and he heard Bill one lower-level research on a typical day we run about 50 to 60 games a day so it's in general it's a profitable it's a tremendous amount of work, but it can certainly be profitable.

It does seem like this is a business where you can't really have repeat customers much that is probably the only downside to escape room is that after you play it. There's no replayability really so you had to continue building new games to keep audience. It's hard to explain the rush you get from an escape room played yourself. The danger feels real, your heart recess and as per our team of Sunday morning correspondence, you are well. We didn't win the time ran out and the bomb went off.

But you know what we didn't care one hour we've been working our wits having fun with friends, transported to a different time and place. That's what I call escape what's in a name that Shakespeare from Romeo and Juliet. Of course Steve Hartman has the answer.

A lot a small university near Birmingham 6 foot eight, 310 pounds senior offensive lineman George Grimm weighed his job force on the same dog multi-over the last four years. The name Grimm weighed has become synonymous with muscle and light. This story will surely change that is a kind person and he's proven that through. Like many many times. That's what this is all about. Michael Musto is George's stepdad. He married George's mom Michelle. When George was in fifth grade and the two have gotten along famously.

Ever since he was just a sweet young man so Michael Musto came along. George never had a regular male presence in his life trying to win so they bond over especially just how we've always communicated through sports I love you. Neither of those we just talk football. I don't think there's any runs in your as well. That's the ultimate way to show how much I love was to do this earlier this month. George pulled off one of the most memorable moments Stanford football history sneaked like that is stepdad, especially never saw the play was certified by the judge designed by seam ripper read and executed by number 76 himself a dog of my dad papers in his hand was doing hellos, I have with you my world. I saw my name on the Jersey couldn't get the words of my mouth so most voice issues.

Best first stepdad. It's hard to imagine a higher on football player hard to imagine a greater show strength because George didn't just change the letters on his teachers that day. He put his heart on his sleeve and the name for that is hero in your long-lost you is futile right not for our Luke Burbank for the last couple of years I was a frequent visitor to a magical place.

A place where honestly I had no real business being at age 42 skateboard shot.

I was instantly a kid again trying to figure out how many lawns I need to mow to buy the latest Tony Hawk scape but it turns out I didn't have to because my wife surprised me by buying me one for my birthday. Without a doubt it was the best present I ever got, and also the one that most necessitated me updating my will, because, you see, while inside I felt like a kid again outside. I remained very much a middle-aged man with a sense of balance that can only be described as intermittent that stop me the and despite more than a few falls.

I felt like it was coming back to me. I even skateboard past a bunch of teenagers one time and I swear I heard one of them say that guy is cool.

I was on top of the world and then I saw the meme you know one of those funny pictures that lives online.

It's called how do you do fellow kids and it shows actor Steve blue, Sammy, trying to seem youthful carrying the skateboard in an instant I realized that was me a silly looking 42-year-old with the mortgage, and high cholesterol thought he could reconnect with his youth. I knew it was time to hang up my board. The dream was over and then something interesting happened at a radio show taping I was part of. I met the actual Tony Hawk skateboard legend, who it turns out, is eight years older than me and still skateboarding every day. I told him about my doubts he confided in me that he still gets nervous before jumping is born 30 feet in the air and completely rotating at 2 1/2 times. I told him I knew how he felt. Because sometimes I just fall off the board for no reason.

For a brief moment, he wasn't Tony Hawk and I wasn't. Luke Burbank.

We were just two dudes talking about skateboarding will ever be as good as him probably not, but in my giving up. Not a chance.

I just got one question I need answered. How you do fellow kids. Most all of us know the name Harriet Tubman. How much do we know about her remarkable road to freedom. Martha Tyson are maps it out for us proposed. But now on hold as Andrew Jackson's replacement for the $20 bill. What did you learn about her in school that she ran away from slavery then risked her own freedom to free others. One sentence to if that thing was tough and so a new film starring Cynthia Areva is meant to shout the competing entry trouble, I saw her as a young woman had a force of will. That was almost unbreakable and she was because of the more you discover about Harriet Tubman, the more you realize to be a superhero exploits. It would be an understatement to say where Doering is the only known representations in the photograph that we have Kate Clifford Larson Tubman's biographer is 5 feet tall. This is a representation of Tubman as a life-size person on the Eastern shore of Maryland where she was born the Harriet Tubman Underground Railroad visitor center opened in 2017.

This tiny woman who could neither read nor write, now has not one but two national parks dedicated to her story with this is the way it did when he was around.

Yes, it would've looked exactly like this. She was born here Erin to Ross Mindy for short.

Around 1822, her parents were enslaved on different plantations and that far farm.

On the other side of the river hours apart meant his life as a slave was horrific. It was brutal.

It was cruel so she and her mother were owned by Edward Grotius, who made $60 a year renting her out starting when she was six. She talked about how lonely and sad she was when she was separated from her mother and how she would cry her's self to sleep at night and then came the day when she was about 13, that she walked into the Bucktown Village store just as an overseer was trying to catch a runaway when the overseer picked up one of the store wait to wait yes and he threw it intending to hit the young man who was fleeing that Tubman had stepped back into the doorway and it slammed right into her skull for the rest of her life. Harriet Tubman had sudden epileptic seizures and visions she said were from God. Harriet was her mother's name. Mindy began calling herself that when she married John Tubman in 1849, she escaped from this place right here, right here, a place called Poplar neck in Caroline County, Maryland when word reached her that she was going to be sold south. Just look at a map, imagine Harriet Tubman in her 20s, running away alone on foot, she would've come to this home.

She managed with the help of the Underground Railroad to make it hundred miles to the Pennsylvania border and freedom. But then Tubman went back 13 times over 10 years leading more than 70 people to freedom this in the film.

It really get during the Civil War.

She became the first American woman ever to lead troops into battle near Beaufort, South Carolina. They blew up the bridge.

They liberated 750 enslaved people off the plantations along the river and the newspapers at the time wrote about this this raid and they credited the raid to the black sheep Moses Harriet Tubman had an amazing Forrest Gump likability to be at the center of history. Her friends among its key figures. Abolitionists Frederick Douglass and John Brown. Tubman was a passionate campaigner for women's suffrage alongside Susan B. Anthony, she spent the last 50 years of her remarkable life here in Auburn, New York, where William Henry Seward, Pres. Abraham Lincoln, Secretary of State and his wife Francis offered their friendship and support. She was a regular guest social visitor welcome here surrendering the old house kitchen. Ludwig's education director at the Seward house museum in Auburn was known that hurt looking to place her family somewhere and plant roots or to build a home for herself and so they offer her a piece of land. 7 acres. A black woman, technically a fugitive slave buying a farm unheard-of.

In 1869. She got married again to Nelson Davis more than 20 years her junior. This is an amazing house was one of nine cottages in her 70s. She opened an old age home for formerly enslaved people and an infirmary providing free healthcare to anyone, black or white. She was a lightning rod for change. Karen Vivian Hillhead to the Harriet Tubman home. She was the Serena Williams of her top okay bold bad black beautiful.

We know she was deeply religious and that she had secret pleasures, strawberries were favorite dessert.

So we found start receipts all over the property and blue light China, which is so unlike Harriet for her to have this affection for these very fine things. So who was Harriet Tubman. Really this is just the Tubman scrapbook as my mother called Judith Bryant she was Harriet great-great-grandson. Nice descended from Harriet's brother, William Henry Stewart. He and two other brothers she rescued from Maryland in 1854. She's got bragging rights, but chooses not to brag my family to follow the same related that she invokes her famous relative when things go right this expression. Harriet's work. She side of my guardian angel tough and resolute to the very end.

This was Harriet Tubman the year before she died in Auburn on March 10, 1913 she was 91 or thereabouts. Her funeral was a major event when you come here had a fail Harriet Tubman's grave has become a destination shrine for visitors in need of a hero. But her epitaph reads simply servant of God. Well done Jane Pauley thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning progress and crazy time once final season is the point is we need people in the best way to protect good people is to final season Millstream