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It's a conversation that offers insight beyond the broadcast this episode, Tracy Smith is in conversation with two actors who started the new film. The two popes Jonathan Price and Sir Anthony Hopkins can see this is a good never be me and then bus you cannot agree to a good guy, you agree to stay. You may remember price from such films as Brazil and Glengarry Glen Ross okay and who could forget Hopkins turns what in the silence of the way since his last test I ate with some fatherly nice.

All right here we are very settled.

Tracy Smith asks drop the price. What drew the veteran actor to take on the role of Pope Francis. I know you had a beautiful script and an amazing director. What was it about this story and these men that appeal to you at first I was reluctant to Pope was on the hydrant of America script which I really liked. It also came with him on the morrow's attention to directed research, clincher for is been a favorite director of my peers from city of gold on which, but I also great admiration for Francis Bailey was created Pope what he was talking about what he could do for society in general. New to me is much more political figure and I responded to.

Things he was saying you didn't know that Tony was going to play the other Pope no no hard copy wouldn't take the other boat but that was the icing on the cake. Tony agreed. I knew he wanted to do it but it was fitting in. Yeah.

As soon as they told some produce about the father's film and might join us for lunch for the Pope is really only Jim knew that much and the ice located in the I description my Thomas off of this really good is that he likes. It wasn't heavy on the condom so I had to delay because I could be looking for a hot so I can remember in Milan, so I headed crystal nice and I don't think it would be. I could do it on my plate to clear before they waited to Québec from Argentina, given time, so I joined the Monroe and people from culturally 60 is terrific. The script was to get script on superb director like frequent very laid-back, but he produces these remarkable images wellness easy to play. I can do an analysis that watched him on YouTube, but I got an idea because I just take the information from the script if it's well written for me. I don't need to know too much about things not that many budget judgments.

I any historical judgment so out of it so I don't read that much about was part of the appeal playing against this other Pope John.

We never really looked before just briefly.

I direct play number 2.1 number two number one goal sheet on the Taylor story is become a running joke between the two of you number one he's never to do something about it but I like that I was number one on the course soon. But several of his emails about this business otherwise go on and we brings up something this film offers great insight into these men and into picking of the Pope have the Cardinals go about picking the Pope really have people been surprised by the humor. I was surprised by the audience reaction when I was gratified by when you see it with a large audience. Birds from post image in the beginning of the phone which is an anonymous image of someone talking on the phone as a great punchline on the audience. Every time I seen it save huge laughter in the audience. You can feel the audience sitting back relaxing and thinking on this phone I can watch it's not going to be what I expected it to be, which is too old men.

Two hours. It's so much more complicated from humans very moving, but I didn't think about humor as it comes out of the relationship situation and I don't think I ever so we will trying to be funny. I think that's why it works so well. She's not as I lasted half enough to know if anyone's hose last time he was dying was with his dying enough that he died but you do see Amsterdam so I was about to be grown.

Yes, I will die and let's talk. Let's have some fun.

That's just go out and say what's up, what's your problem. How can I how can I change is anything we can talk less with this phone. We can discuss with the enemy is about common about our differences and find a commonality in order that we can move on and make things better.

Generally you like as good things is going on, which is soliciting a messy place. Number seven, right. So the whole of human history.

It's been a mess, but if we don't laugh, you don't absolutely set the right 1933. This manager steps 7770 biggest killer is that certainty that I know that I'm the type of sedate political correct okay to. I know best and you don't know if you don't agree with milk and that's pretty terrifying. If we don't relax medical catastrophe. So here these two men with very opposite different views of the church in the world who somehow managed to find a way to come together to be friends. Also, it seems that this is about people's capacity to change. To do both of these men you could argue did something horribly wrong and still managed to change was that important to you and that resonate with you that part of it from up above you that this business of expressing was good to have developed conservative Catholic theologian, the term ethical was insane, but strange. No change that one person, he probably never forgot this man to use those casting the first stone.

Who has not sinned build up the stones before this stone the woman that is the most moving parts of human history will be the first noble the ghost of Mrs. that to me is the most moving to say that the man walking around the desert. All is what compassion on PT. The beauty of life of the terrible beauty of life cost of the festival is not sinned. Lexi yeah that's you putting people in time and executing them before they've even been given process of justice will be doing it already condemned content in its side, and in my tiny microcosmic when I get to say I love you got about half were you able to learn things from each other since this is the first time you worked so closely together. Did you watch each other with the characters agreement wasn't yet I did go in that thing you not judging yourself while you're doing it on them not driving Tony while he's speaking with you in the moment being the characters and happily there were things within us that resonated as people as Francis grows to like over to begin to understand routes and Bennett Brett Singer understands Francis. It was like me getting to know Tony well that's wasn't just because my part watching his performance was no animosity from him to me keeps example to me mission. He's a decent man whose soft design we have an argument just my one must be careful, but I noticed that you and the family doesn't assess it. You don't think about it because of his friendship and his attempts to get to me to resign. He never threatens me with vindictive dogma. He says things that you should be no particulars.

Think will point and it was his compassion is compassion and understanding that I'm an old man in the known conservative baby can break me down because I still think about those things now because you're in the moment say to me Jonathan that you were nervous the first time your onset. I noticed something.

Don't don't says that anything nice about the words I will never live it down currently make my life hell. I'm happy being number one alright, alright, I will come in the any act or your work is not been fun at Tony's for long time so I was just the kind of excitement along with the members proved to work out quite well. I don't know how much you get into this is you're doing it to prepare for roles differently from understand this yeah cannot talk about that is the kind of adjudicator about how we work differently tell you more but I speak for 2020 is much more rigorous and is like an orchestrator of his performance. He likes to know the mind, just knowing the lines and once you know them so solidly and that's my things of such a school office at school.

I find the funeral my life which feels very good thing to have the tragic suits compensate me but I know everything.

Absence of milk and set because that will be full so I have to know little to show off but I love the feeling of knowing all the pushing it down into my my feet to just knowing it and then once you got it you can improvise a sing and dance to start and had to do things you free to improvise one of you needs to for me that is. I kind of people. Well, if I know they do that, but I couldn't do that you need to know only so for my own peace of mind that like on the second morning I'm that's ethical have a joke see the sky and have some fun and improvise. You know not be rigid about brunt of it was just as me you chassis that I classical musician doctors but I I think I'm more open to what's gonna happen on the on the day and I don't know where that comes from but I do when I'm rehearsing a play. A lot of directors want you to learn your script before you go in the like, I can't. I can't learn it off the page.

I have to learn it.

I listen a lot what the other characters say about my character and that, so I know about my character.

It can be frustrating for the rectum.

Sometimes are you ever going to let but on the I will be the last person in the restroom is carrying the script and it's one time. Once I know what I'm saying why am saying it then it goes in the postscript, I can generally you know, the whole character's motivations on his intentions and the words sometimes of the last things I think about its you can know what you can overrate are sometimes on phone. Rest told it was quite instinctive between them. Really, there wasn't a lot of rehearsing up. Wish I could do that I can't find this use seven holy think to lessen. I saw I'm encumbered with the fear that it's can give my way so I thought… I can say I have the opposite. But if I if I'm expected to know it on up.

I think I should note, I don't know it. That sense of failure. I can't better fail, so I don't know.

It can't fail to. We were talking of taking the two boats on the road crew ships traveling to about painting lessons on did you notice the striking resentment between Pope Francis and I did differently now that that parent doppelgängers say no accepted did say years ago 2015 that some asked you who should claim in the movies and you said Pope Francis that he needs to lose if you pass this strange. It's funny around. Did you ever think you look at Benedict.

When will they put the Rosenman to the makeup person since we would put on this week so so I still can result quite like it wasn't playing a most difficult because I'm because I don't have to act like an old man, so it's easy to treat Barrymore all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout to his knees and each episode Nina weekly gastric and cover other quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist because well maybe you do to the newest interior to sign trying Harvey Carr to the right and wrong way to wash her aunts out working on getting the things that you just kind of wrongfully not able to do in daytime television. So watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast on the