EXTRA! Kim Novak

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So just being told I'm she was just 22 years old when she got a big starring role opposite William Holden 1955 film three years later she guaranteed herself license and pneumatic history are dual role in the Alfred Hitchcock classic vertigo with costar Jimmy Stewart, which more movies quickly, but then when she was in her 30s, seemingly at the height of her career. Novak decided to walk away from Hollywood and lead a quiet life. Moraga paid a visit to Kim Novak at her idyllic home in Oregon. She shares with her veterinarian husband and a lot of animals tell me about the color lavender. Well, it was my color.

I did love it and so I turned my head, but then I hated it.

After we get there meds too much of it. What was it like dating Frank Sinatra of Frank Sinatra helmet. It was thrilling that it outwardly was. He was like a big brother.

You took care of me. He really was wonderful when he was so good.

One time I wasn't feeling good and he sent over a whole box of oh, Thomas Wolf, all of his books. And oh, he became my favorite. He took care of me was so wonderful. I just love love Franks was it a great romance.

No, not really. I mean, maybe you thought so. Though I read it I just love your views you use wonderful and kind and beautiful. Help me get in a new age engine help me build up my strength as believing in myself and really help me a lot and I went with him to his music sessions and it would just help me believe in myself and and him him yeah, I've thought of it more romantically. That, have you been in love many times in your life is in love.

Love meant. I've loved much in my life in love in my life. Probably not much in love now for somebody just that that springs to mind in Hollywood.

That was just a lovely person that was very kind, well actually Jimmy Stewart is encompasses all his. He encompasses everything and he's everything that Hollywood is not meant hee hee so not fits the mold of Hollywood and yet he's timeless. I've read what is I think is kind of a beautiful reminiscence of yours from shooting Bell, book and candle Jimmy Stewart that there was doing a scene.

They called for lunch or break and just stay there.

Can you tell me about that would have yeah yeah they called for lunch we were doing as seen in the we both just put our feet up on a coffee table and set them through the whole lunch they turned off the lights and we just put our feet up and took off our shoes and wiggled her toes and it was just the most comfortable feeling he was just you somebody.

Also, who never felt like they were Movistar know we both were sort of like out of our element. We we both never felt like like we were actors like I fry bread I've heard you say that you were both reactors more than yes or is what well that's right. Both of us felt like we worked off of each other like like like we were reactors. I never felt like an actor for me.

I always felt like that. Like I always resented calling myself an actor but I react off of life off of incidents off of whatever but I'm actor to me always felt like someone was artificial acting to me is something phony unnatural reacting and that is is is from life.

It's real and was there anyone that you really Otto Preminger make you laugh.

Oh Otto Preminger was a wonderful director. He was wonderful. Otto Preminger was known for being mean those most people didn't like him. I adored that man. I adored him. It's interesting that you see.

That's right, the get behaved like again like my father was tough so I was ready for toughness I could take tough. I could take tough he was brilliant and wonderful and I loved he loved you the freedom as long as you play by the rules. He was wonderful. You know it's funny as we been sitting here talking and sometimes you're searching for words right. I'm wondering if that's what you paint because express myself where I can really III have certainly an easier time with putting my feelings into my paintings into yeah I have certainly an easier time expressing myself with a paintbrush. Words yes yes I prefer it that way and I don't have any trouble putting it into that's my my my choice of expression up into a picture my pictures tell me show you about all of my whole relationship with wood, etc. I could my whole life stories in my painting my whole feeling in Hollywood and after and before my whole life ever question you asked in every question unanswered is in there my whole history paint everything you ever want to know or ever asked is so is my studio. This is one side is my office. Why write my poetry and some of this is my studio when she start painting I started actually in grade school and actually was a really great student, but art was one thing I was good at and then as I say I was, not really popular at school, and one-on-one scholarships in high school.

Suddenly I was looked up to. I want to scholarships. Sadly, I was special scholarships to where the Chicago Art Institute yes and I got to go on Saturdays every week and I felt so special suddenly I meant something to myself, my family and so were you surprised by your talent. Well I will I will yes I was surprised when other people recognize that I wasn't surprised, but to me what surprised me was when other people recognize the didn't mean anything unless anyone else knew it. What what good is it if no one else knows that you have talent you know when I was in Hollywood.

When I did every day almost. When I did Polly the pistol which was for Billy Wilder wonderful great director. What I did was I painted.

I didn't paint always. I sketched it but I painted the characters I was playing teach you. I sure did you paint the Carol Harris draw the care they help me find out who the characters were. I thought Polly the pistol.

I didn't like coming to pistol personally.

I didn't like her, but I find find out who she was. First of all, and I did the same with every character I played did you paint battle absolutely met on page Judy I painted every character I played through the life I got to know my.paint matching picnic absolutely course I did. I got to know them as you think I got to know them. I sketch them. I sketch they were the prophylactic faces that lips and mouth and nose, and you got to know you were telling me you had no technique. That sounds pretty technical, artist different charges different technique than acting right. But it was a technique for you to find character absolutely meeting this paintings exist in my scripts in my my sketch them in the scrap nest on the pages I will never always work, getting to know them. I drew them that you lose all of this in the fire. One love to see the sketches of Madeleine in June. Real people ever wrote. Yes I do them. That's all I got to know them. That's who they were to me. I drew them as they looked now where would you be without painting I win I probably I might not even be here today. Today I might not. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States burning your sustained great power competition states put our mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation motor situations not being matched up with follow.

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