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Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com morning James Hawley and this is introduced this morning complements of the social distancing Utah Symphony. We've made it almost to the end of April and though some states are using their lockdowns. The coronavirus is still very much with us. Months after it first arrived on our shores. It was a classic case of Randy or not. As Martha Tyson or will report in our cover story. Here's my pile of US government pandemic preparedness plans. It's not as if we weren't warned early February. The scope of this pandemic was really becoming quite clear. So how did we get blindsided we stoop entire month of February almost nothing to get us ready to a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat coming up this Sunday morning telling timeline. She's already a Broadway and Hollywood legend.

Now Julie Andrews is launching a brand-new podcast aimed at encouraging children to read this morning shall tell our Tracy Smith all about it. Julie Andrews once played a character who could find her way through hard and it seems she really love being said personality.

I think of things we love about you. In some ways, you are Maria know I'm Too much. That's the point word with the legendary Julie Andrews on Sunday morning. Times like these bring out the best in people and the worst Morocco will be offering us a short history of quackery. 200 years ago. If you were sick you would reach for opium or mercury.

Or maybe you'd ask for money. How can you be assured that you are eating a ground-up mommy and not just some random guy that people would sometimes take like dirt and soil ash is bona fide real money.

The wrap on quackery past and present later on Sunday morning. Holly Williams has a Sunday profile of Homeland star Claire Danes, Karen Moriarty takes us on a sobering visit to a New York potters field face sailing is having a bad hair month. Nancy Giles doesn't know what to wear. Plus, Steve Hartman, Jim Gaffigan, and more on this Sunday morning for 26 April 2020 will be back in a moment writing are not America was first infected by the coronavirus months ago.

We've been trying to play catch-up ever since our cover story as reported by Martha Tyson or 4 o'clock in the morning on Thursday, January 9 Jess and neighbor revealed that he's been battling Lyme disease taking second billing to Justin Bieber's big revelation as it is getting treatment. Coronavirus got its first mention on the CBS news broadcast to say a new virus related to SARS may be responsible for mysterious pneumonia outbreak in China. The New York Times beat us with its first coverage January 7 on page 13. By then Chinese public health officials had already notified CDC director Robert Redfield about the virus.

Redfield had immediately briefed Health and Human Services Sec. Alex Cesar, who in turn alerted the national Security Council.

So how did we get from those small but worrying early warnings out of Wuhan, China to now deleting the world, not in managing the crisis, but in confirmed coronavirus cases and deaths to untangle what went wrong.

Start with a non-Watergate. What the president no and when it is snowing.

We now know before the state Council high governing body of China and told them in a secret session on January 7 that the issue Wuhan was so serious that he was personally stepping in and taking control. Laura Garrett is a Pulitzer prize-winning science writer and author of the coming plague state initiative more than a billion people doesn't personally intervene in a little outbreak with 1/2 a dozen cases we now know the CIA was passing on to the White House look, there's something potentially catastrophic immersion breaking news on January 17. The first US attempt to shut the door on the virus so they are screening passengers arriving from central China, but four days later on January 21, the CDC reported the first case of COBIT 19 here is certainly not a moment for vigilance interviewed at the world economic forum in Davo Switzerland.

Pres. Trump reacted this way ever totally under control. One person coming in from China but events indicated otherwise.

I'm declaring a public close emergency January 30, the World Health Organization declared global public health emergency outside of Chicago. There are new fear and the first known case of person-to-person transmission of COBIT 19 in the United States was announced, there are nearly 100 other Americans now being tested for nationals other than immediate family of US citizens and permanent residents. The following day the Trump administration restricted travel China will be denied entry into the United States for the stock but not from Europe that wouldn't happen for more than a month, although Europe was the source of many US infections. We know now, but the China travel ban may have bought a little time expectation I have a say in retrospect was wrong was that there was massive planning happening in the US government. Dr. Ashish job is head of the Harvard global health Institute. I assumed it was a lot of ramping up of testing and getting our country ready for what was coming, but well it's really become clear now that there was not the fact that the CDC's test kits didn't work meant that coronavirus was out there spreading and no one knew where expiratory could become a pandemic.

What came next six weeks of schizophrenia.

People think that goes away in April with the dueling versions of reality coronavirus outbreak took a very frightening turn overnight. But the nation was preoccupied with coronavirus but with impeachment. All which of the years in the early margin is dawning on us. But my God. We wasted six weeks of early morning time my pile preparedness plans on top November 2005. It wasn't as if there was no roadmap structural issues in charge of what role versus the state health release all these plants all debated by very wise people and governments.

Both Republican and Democrat and set aside just as the Trump administration set aside the so-called playbook handed them by the Obama transition team oversaw the development of the playback until March 2017 Beth Cameron headed the office responsible for pandemic preparedness within the national Security Council. Our job was to coordinate policy and see you work with departments and agencies to make sure that we had the programs in place to prepare for the next and to be more agile and responding.

She said, was because the office was eliminated in May 2018 gone. What Cameron describes, in a Washington Post op-ed is the ability to get ahead of emergencies. So our office and still existed.

One of the key jobs would have been to make sure that we understood what was happening with the strategic National stockpile tests we had no supplies and equipment they could determine who is and who was in the May issue of the new Republic. Lori Garrett is anything blaming Donald Trump.

Also she Jim paying both of these screwed up everything that was possible for them to screw up. Certainly China is buying our response harder. I think our federal government's response was one failure after another after another. According to Ashish job. It didn't have to come to this will shut down the we experience our country. I don't believe that was necessary if we had done our job right. January and February. We were asleep at the wheel for so long, but by the time March arrived. We really had no other choice but to shut the country down. It's going to disappear one day it will disappear when the president said that on February 27.

The financial markets were tanking in the known number of COBIT 19 deaths began to ratchet up in the miracle.

The president predicted Jess to unleash the full power of the federal government on March 13. Pres. Trump declared a national emergency to verdict words on March 31 predicted this could be a hell of a bad two weeks at the end of those two weeks on April 13 himself on the back all of the things we do know is that a job like this. This past Friday. COBIT 19 deaths, United States passed 50,000 is one thing about Hermann is quite enough. And then there's the question even more difficult to answer these days what to wear. Time to face facts first with Faith Salie then with Nancy Giles a few weeks ago. You might color a superficial question for sure what people's minds. Yes, we are dealing with issues of life and death right now. We have to survive in between is not just blocking light.

There's a lot of gray a lot of gray.

This is my head very gray hair, and here are the heads of a lot of other people see me look like, which is what I got another even the mayor of Chicago violated her own advice and headed to the salon for a haircut. I take my personal hygiene very seriously. Her governor JB Pritzker different feelings turn into a hippie.

At some point here. It's not just our heads to look at and it's not just women calling calling self-care Collier color my Ron caring about the way you look right now is not entirely superficial because it's real. She's trying to do the little small things that make you feel like you have a touch of control in your life where you feel like you had doing to take care of your clients. Somebody created this little container where you're able to put color and one-sided developer and the other sealant and protected. Nancy sent me one of the kids and then I went to haircolor grad school or was it kindergarten coloring between the lines, I need you to do you color between the lines already working things are happening on a lot that I love. No idea. Nancy's not the only one helping her clients this way here stylist Kim territory in New Jersey.

She's usually part of the CBS hair and makeup team, but the days she's dropping off color and getting lessons from at least 6 feet away don't have a stylist you can order haircolor online or in your mask and gloves and head to the store better hurry this Walmart shoppers are no longer taking over 12 paper over their toilette lately. We've seen more grooming products before starting to get a haircut so you start to see more bear tremors and haircolor and things like that. Why do it yourself feeling yourself and if haircolor isn't what you need to go try a virtual bank trim for help your partner get zoom ready. Bottom line is you try this at home if you want to. If you go grab your purple or Chewbacca you well girl we are all in this hairy situation together. They care a lot about my roots, but it's really not treat myself to this is Nancy Giles.

Whether slicing lemons in his kitchen reading a book or supporting that trademark black tea and Blaser leave it to Michael course to look good under lockdown. Okay, what's the whole outfit got down there like you ready and for one of the most recognizable names in fashion what courses wavering these days isn't just about style. We want the things that make us feel like our self that will be putting on this when you feel confident you have a better day.

We all have to stay jewel because we do want to know life could be like when we come out of what were wearing right now about how you were feeling the most stylish backing. I've seen Sophia Tang is the creative director of Bloomingdale's shares ideas.

She gave us a private tour of the flagship store in New York point of view.

What kinds of things are you think people doing very logical and expected like comfortable right roads loungewear workout clothes I in pajamas, yes comfort is key. Just ask Robin give on a Pulitzer prize-winning fashion critic for the Washington Post there be certain your gas if you just want to wear pajamas but cozy shouldn't define the day you read sports jersey or repair of sneakers that love jewelry.

Anything that can remind you of memories are a big part of what Laura Littman is doing every evening and author Littman trades in those pajamas once a night for an outfit that has a special place in her heart she photographs yourself and it and post the image on her Instagram page and I know this great don't know right now it anything that makes you feel good. I very basically and sailor dress that I worded my bar mitzvah weekend and back to Michael course was donating $2 million to coronavirus relief efforts. He sees a brighter future of style and substance.

No one wants to give up, but at the time. I think we can all enjoy getting a little drastic. You know that moment that you want to put something on the boost of confidence to live the rest of our slippers. I hope not.

Experts are on TV. Seemingly around-the-clock, offering all kinds of advice morocco reminds us there are the quacks not only a self-described genius entrepreneur with a coronavirus prevention pill arrested by the FBI as you take this pill once a day. You cannot contract the virus.

You're saying that silver solution would be effective. Televangelist Jim Baker sued by the state of Missouri to stop promoting silver solution, a so-called cure for COBIT 19 totally dominated kills it and activates it there. Just two examples of what's considered modern-day medical quackery actually originates from the word Quicksilver which is a middle Dutch word that means somebody boasts or brags about their selves that someone on the street corner is hawking their wares.

Dr. Lydia Kang is the co-author of a book on the long history of quackery which she defines as the promotion of the treatment or cure. Without a solid scientific basis. In other words, fake medicine, and you two generally thought to have reached its heyday in this country. Toward the end of the 19th century, when I hear the word quack. I instantly think snake oil salesman. Why so way back when the end of the 1800s there was a guy name Clark Stanley who was selling a liniment that he claimed had snake oil and and he was saying it was basically everything.

As for what was actually in it. It had beef fat and pepper and turpentine. There was no snake oil in it and he made a ton of money off of it, but many discredited practices were genuinely considered best practices in their time. For thousands of years. Tree panning the drilling of holes in the head was used to release evil spirits and long before the current opioid epidemic opium. The highly addictive narcotic derived from the opium poppy plant was a respectable go to pain reliever.

They use it for everything under the sun so you know you're having a bad day you would take them opium your nervous to take some opium. If you have some crying babies at home and your busy parents trying to go to the factory some opium, heroin, a derivative of opium was once even sold over-the-counter bike bear for sore throats and respiratory ailments at the opposite end of things there were equally unscientific remedies. I got so many different things and pretty much anything in your kitchen cupboard going to things like milk and honey to tobacco anime. You probably heard of the term glowing is someone's yes that's where that expression comes from in England for a little while they were actually used as a means of reviving drowning victims and remember mommy eating you're glad you don't one of the weirdest things that Egyptian mummies were taken from their tombs stolen and sold overseas because they were considered this fantastic remedy for everything. How can you be assured that you are eating a ground-up mommy and not just some random guy that people would sometimes take like dirt and soil ashes in bona fide real money.

Now, lest we mock our benighted forebears too much. Are there any accepted practices today that might very well be seen as quackery in 50 or 75 years. So lately it's funny when I was in medical school there is a saying which was teaching you hear is wrong. We just don't know which half. 50 years from now for things that I think are going to be really considered right now kind of barbaric are going to be things like the way that we screen for cancers. So for example doing a colonoscopy and having to drink that terrible crap going so colonoscopy done. Of course, colonoscopies work there is central in screening for colon cancer, an important distinction from certain products being pushed today, so there's lots of public concern about colored 19 and so scammers everywhere are concluding that, whatever their marketing Dr. Stephen Barrett runs the Internet site quack watch. The most dangerous is so-called miracle mineral solution MMS miracle mineral solution is an industrial-strength bleach. That's right bleach that is been falsely promoted as a cure for everything from HIV to malaria and now COBIT 19, the FDA pretty much drove the sellers out of the US market is supposed to get this past Thursday, Pres. Trump wondered out loud whether injecting household disinfectant into the body might kill coronavirus to see the disinfectant in a minute is a way we can do something injection medical experts and manufacturers were quick to point out that consuming those products can kill you.

In recent weeks. Accusations of quackery have been leveled against two of television's most famous doctors heart surgeon Dr. Mamet's was criticized after hyping the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COBIT 19 when the benefits are far from conclusive. That's where hydroxychloroquine plays a role with talking about a lot. That's the malaria drug. He has since reversed himself. Dr. Phil McGraw, a former clinical psychologist incorrectly compared to the diseases danger with other causes of death. 45,000 people here offer model reworks 432,003 or six swimming pool but we don't shut the country down for he to backtrack. While the peddlers of quack medicine may have mixed motives. Dr. Lydia Kang says the patients should always be treated with compassion, but a lot of it really comes down to fear. People don't want to be sick.

They're afraid of things that you want to get worse and hope they want to get better for whatever they can do so. She's a respected actor on a critically acclaimed television series who considers fame a four letter word Holly Williams has a Sunday profile of Claire Danes spent a lot of your life coming out of him for a child actor that must be really is only for me it's been my whole life working this case known for performances that hold nothing back documents or eight seasons. She's channeled the brilliant Harry Mathison on the theories is very important.

It is meaningful. I want to read you something.

It's format. Review of land Claire Danes teen does something remarkable when half a shows a motion by Bolton.she's almost dancing, and you are you energy might blow a fuse in the recognizer. Yeah my face is quite rubbery or something. My face just is really expressive and thank goodness because I do my work with but it betrays a lot and that can be a real liability in life, but it does serve me as an actor what she calls rubbery face is taken on the docs unglamorous will other actors might shy away from what scientists and the details that other people are blind to me clinically depressed.

Mirabelle in shopgirl. Each time to call and the defined role of CIA agent struggling with bipolar disorder meant more events so the player character Danes in Morocco, she filmed homelands final season. This show has kept with current events, sometimes you really seeming to predict them Danes is one to enemies and two Golden globes playing carry and print director lazily link a glass and told his whiskey row email Lee damaged and floored a brave choice.

But it's also exciting choice. How many characters are as rich as this. For women that are on TV or films. I think it's a role that doesn't come around that often and she sure jumped into it and pray for me as an actress because so often, especially coming out of my 20s. You know I was planning on your news or characters you were completely defined by their romantic experience or that guy is wise, Danes was just 14 when she was costing her the leading role thanks to teenager Angela in my so-called life is like now that series only lasted a season, but it still has a cult following. By the time she was 16 Danes with starring opposite Leonardo DiCaprio in a Romeo and Juliet with sexual tension. Danes looked always to follow the typical trajectory of a young Hollywood starlet, but instead made different choices you famously time down some hot ladies that tend out to be pretty beat Titanic, the one that why the Titanic specifically. I had just finished filming room and Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio.

It was another romantic epic.

It was just so identical to this last thing that I just done I just wasn't right for me in that moment he regretted no not at all. It wasn't wasn't my destiny. I don't really dish today was to take a break from show business and enroll at Yale University. I had been working my entire adolescence really and was starting to feel a little like a bonsai tree or something a little strange. I mean literally stunned just hanging out with kids my own age and learning how to do that was as important as whatever academic thing I was doing, which is also vital Danes has always seemed where you fame even as a 15-year-old on the cusp of started I had been a little frightening that I don't think is funny. It does been and always makes me squeamish talking about it. It just feels inherently embarrassing, but a career as an actor is something she said she always wanted. Whose idea was that it was totally my idea from the age of five I was really clear that this was something I wanted to do. She credits her parents both artists for helping her negotiate show business on her own times anyways how he in Manhattan's Soho district back then a bohemian enclave. We took a stroll the old neighborhood just weeks before the season went until down to legally prove that you're an artist to live in. So how does one know and I think it was easy to cheat Danes blocks from where she grew up and told us she's watching homelands final season at home.

The audience, it all sounds very close to the plan. She first laid out as a budding teen star person.

Now I want I want to be a person who has life lacks is that what happened, if you have achieved your goal. The same person who acts pretty saying, I mean what I don't want to tempt fate this is all gone much better than you ever imagined or hoped to take out with preacher Gareth this week. Stephen Law alive. Mitch McConnell and one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to set races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed. What about if not George. George is right up there with New Hampshire's Sopranos New Hampshire people really just don't like you have more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with major Gareth on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts slowly, very slowly. We are getting back to business. In some parts of the country, including Luke Burbank tells us one very popular farmers market. If you Were Walking Down Ballard Ave. in Seattle last Sunday. You might've thought your eyes were playing tricks, but they work really was a line of people stretching down the block waiting for the belltower to chime 10 AM, which signaled the reopening of the Ballard farmers market Washington was hit hard by the covert, 19 outbreak with more than 700 death thanks to social distancing and a flattening of the curve in the state just over a month later, a small sign of something almost resembling normalcy return. Of course there were fewer vendors than usual, and a lot more rules. People stood 6 feet apart.

There was a strict one in, one out once capacity was reached with many people dropping from their cars would be a good opportunity to support local businesses and get outside.

People seemed happy to wait in line, mostly just to have something to do, but also to get their hands on amazing fresh produce. Adults ride the bench a great friend to like Brent Olson's potatoes which he drove all the way across the state to sell our car fearful going grocery store for more than outdoor perfect or sooner. Right now, Karen Bean was selling organic honey from a safe distance card reader.

I have Pam this way to somebody driven up on March 13 Seattle shuttered its farmers markets. But while the city's most famous public market like place remains mostly closed the Ballard farmers market was able to reopen sort. Doug Pharr is the general manager people see this as something that may be more boutique was just going to standard grocery store.

Yes, I very much know about in our conversations with the city.

There was a lot of it, but they were referring to us as an event far and the growers he works with are quick to remind people that what they sell is food not unlike grocery stores, which of course have remained open.

In essence, we are a safer alternative in grocery stores. The amount of people that are in the grocery store at any given time is having access to that product. These farmers are the people of which of touch that product for the first time there, bring it to the farmers market open-air on a typical Sunday last year, more than 20,000 people might show up to browse the fresh local produce that number was way down this last week, but even so, with the sun shining in the market somewhat open again. It was nice to be reminded that this too shall pass.

Help is on the menu for hungry families in the story served up by our Steve Hartman most restaurants in America.

This one is Google Cerrado is viewed more people to the cars line up by the HUD. Although his fine dining now has all the ambience mask. The price just because Zalman that we can survive another day longer. Bruno is catering to the growing regions mission for which he is very well suited 10 years ago. In the aftermath of the recession's White House restaurant was drug.

He was giving away free dinners, the kids of the local Boys and Girls Club. Every goal I came back years later after fire destroyed the original restaurant and put his charity work. In jeopardy, was devastated back, defeating his customers within a week is everything you even expanded his efforts and then came coronavirus.

Unfortunately, all those years of charity left all alone could you lose the restaurant started mold up about the you may end up in the food line yourself and that is always been his response during the recession was alive else. After the fire. It's a constant, the more that is taken from him, the more he gives away this month the help of volunteers and sponsors. Bruno will donate more than 300,000 this crisis anything like the others. You somehow emerge.

Next time you it was her singing voice that first made a legend of Julie Andrews. So wouldn't it be lovely if her voice could introduce children to the joys of reading the other day, Tracy Smith had a chat with Julie Andrews about that very topic via zoom what I had on the computer at her Long Island home. Julie Andrews can still command the screen. So how are you doing well good morning to you how you doing just great. Are you making the best of this time at home or days.

This particular does yes I was going to mention you were a little girl in London during World War II. I'm wondering, are there any lessons from that time that might apply to this time actually is something that certainly never come across before my life very surreal science-fiction movie in a way to cross that is real and yet you know that is only fair to say that Julie Andrews had a lifetime of surreal moment she sang in a command performance. George at any Broadway as Eliza Doolittle in my fairly perfect and you may recall, the very first may not know on screen any real life toddler at home. Her daughter Emma, who joined us for our chat.

Let's start at the very beginning, very good place to start when Mary Poppins was really in the summer of 64 was barely 2 and a true child of Hollywood.

I went shopping with mine any time in the children's section of a department store and there was a display set up of Mary Poppins cardboard cutouts, life-size figures of Mary Poppins and I remember stopping and looking and pointing and saying and then suddenly becoming aware a couple of women behind me were saying is let's leave that little girl thinks her mother is Mary Poppins my mommy now in a way Emma Walton Hamilton has become her mother's costar. Together they've written more than 30 children's books this week will debut a new podcast. Julie's library where listeners can hear stories read in a very familiar voice were hoping that these stories will bring families together will bring all of us together. Encourage reading this receive those subliminal things that go along with enjoying the sounds practically perfect, but Julie Andrews transition from legendary songbird to children's author was by her own admission, difficult small 1997 loss octaves singing voice. After vocal cord surgery. When you lost your voice did you see a blessing and that this is one of the hottest things to deal with and I think it was maybe one of the blessings possibly happen because I enjoyed and love singing so much craziness, I did something creative that I enjoy was exactly right because I began to write children's books and became the thing that I am braced when my voice is gone and said to me one day things, which is just different way of using your voice and I think for me. Great. Great joy and, as if writing a whole library of children's books wasn't enough game. Julie has also written a couple of best-selling memoir. You worked your whole life since you were a young girl, do you find comfort in that. In working because you're keeping busy. Now working on several things. Yes I know to do kicking back lazy a lot of the time, but it's something to do that. I love is very necessary and used to being busy would be very happy.

It almost seems as if Julie Andrews has become a little like Maria raindrops on Rosie's whiskers on kittens actually positive governance in the sound of music you character your family and the world how to deal with adversity way. She still lit especially now, I think so many of us have less than from your mom characters in the movies. I mean I think about in this time focusing on my favorite things and I'm wondering to you personally are there lessons that you've learned from your mom that maybe apply now absolutely like share my mom with a lot of other people who wished that she was there. Mom and I totally get it because she is fabulous mom lessons that jump out at me the most. Perhaps one is when in doubt, stand still. Just know that. So when it is very applicable right now. When in doubt, stand still and wait until you know until the way forward is clear that my mother used to say oh my basic beginning and end, and so just waiting six weeks and quarantine and counting for Jim Gaffigan and family. How on earth is he spending the time. I mean all I see all the past six weeks when I'm not propelling cleaning up after my five vandals. I'm watching news watching news reading news coming from whole school laundry.

I considered news on this whole remember when Harry was considered breaking news. They've announced their stepping back from their royal duties as well as their own sort of direction always shows virus townhome briefings briefings daughters getting tired of my jokes are not presidential briefings.

We've done this right and we really we really have done this right I see the same infectious disease expert on multiple channels that they found chief Dr. Anthony Faucher Dr. Anthony Faucher stalking Sam watched enough TV to another sponsored group to schedule us� This is inexcusable is just inexcusable room watching BBC News, the news our cousins across the pond prime minister has announced the most drastic limits to allies in the UK has ever seen in living memory is comforting. Knowing this is happening to someone else or just think the British accent is a little less but uncle said this is a somber day reinforced why the public must adhere to social distancing rules is like the opening program spinning so long, mostly watching BBC News that were not in this alone. This is not America's. This is not your this is a pandemic affecting all of humanity were counting on you nerds to solve those science please the coronavirus pandemic has focused New York's attention on a saddened generally overlooked spot that seems like it's from another era with Erin Moriarty.

We traveled to Hart Highland deeply cold Saturday morning in January, we took a nearly empty fairy to a speck of land in the Long Island sound. For most souls who go there. It's a one-way trip. Hart Highland is where the city of New York, buries the unknown, the unclaimed or those too poor to afford a burial at 101 acres. It's the largest potters field in the country where going today because it was her birthday and I'm commemorating the 42nd birthday. We went with Elaine Joseph his infant daughter Tamika is among the 1 million people buried here. No cameras or cell phones are allowed. There are no markers there is a mass grave. You just know this body is buried there because they told us so fight it out because it's all I have thought I have, I bring a little stuffed animal left in January 1978. Elaine was a 23-year-old nurse pregnant and living with her boyfriend when she unexpectedly went into labor and gave birth among thoroughly with my first child and happy days later. She says her daughter needed emergency surgery for a heart deformity.

New York City was in the middle of a crippling snowstorm. I couldn't get to the hospital. There were no trains.

There were no buses. There was no public transportation. Elaine was home when she got the news and they said she had another cardiac arrest and she died had to hear that on the phone. Yes, I couldn't be there. That's one of my main regret that I was not there at the hospital with it's it's it's 41 years, but it never goes away, with Elaine to get to the hospital to claim the body of her baby girl.

They said she was already married. How they said that I signed to have her buried in the city cemetery did anyone mention Hart Island at that point I never heard the term Hart Island ever in my life until recently most people had never heard of Hart Island.

Although it's been a part of New York since 1868 when officials paid $75,000 or more than $1 million in today's money to make it is city cemetery and it might have remained out of you. If not for COBIT 19 and the shocking aerial photos showing the devastation of a pandemic on those without resources. In the last month New York went from bearing 25 bodies a week to five times as many.

It's always existed on and it's been the place where we have buried those who are marginalized in life for generations. What makes Hart Island so unusual, says New York City councilman Mark Levine is that for much of its history. It's been run by the Department of Corrections using inmate labor. It's almost out of a Dickens novel got its inmates from Rikers Island. You are responsible for burial victims of various pandemics.

Tuberculosis the Spanish flu and AIDS had been buried in secrecy and sometimes in shame, works great on right the name of the deceased person in big letters on the start of the box until his release from jail in February.

Vincent make alone place pine boxes in mass graves on hard Island and let you know about these people other than their names in the day they died pretty much all we know you always on, the user will New Yorkers system, but you service call. He was somebody who tailored her closed-door laundry. This city refused to release the names until Melinda Hunt, a visual artist to obtain records.

So all of a sudden, 2008 I had 50,000 burial records. Melinda Hunt created the hard Island project, an online memorial.

The whole point of the cemetery is storytelling.

The city had no reason to deny families. This information and there were so many and that's how in 2009 Elaine Joseph finally discovered where her infant daughter was buried 31 years after she died. It's not only my daughter and it's buried there always others. Everybody belong to somebody.

Everybody had a mom had a dad had somebody and many of them families don't even know that there visitation to hard Island is very limited. Joseph had to schedule this birthday celebration months in advance. She left a toy for her daughter.

While the correction officer took Polaroids to mark the occasion.

I can accept that she died that I can accept what I couldn't accept is that I lost track of where her body went and how she was treated after death. The final resting places never been as dignified as it never got the respect that sorely needs to change.

Last December the New York City Council transferred control of hard Island to the parks department earlier this month, inmates were replaced by paid landscape workers. Many are hopeful that next year.

Hard Island will be open as a Memorial Park honoring those buried there and everybody were all human.

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