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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com welcome to summer comes from this Sunday morning at her Joseph friend Austin and Braden friend Dino along with the University of Connecticut trumpet Prof. Lewis hands like good morning and happy Father's Day. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning to begin today will be in conversation with Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York who has much to say about covert, 19 racial justice and stage of our lives. The epicenter of the coronavirus pandemic. New York now has one of the lowest infection rates in the nation, and many give the state's governor, the credit nobody knows, but with crowds growing Andrew Cuomo sees a crisis far from over federal government should step in aggressively and my state. I owned the situation ahead in conversation with Gov. Andrew Cuomo. As you might guess many of the nations small businesses are facing big problems and covert, 19 is just one of them is will be hearing from Senior contributor Ted Koppel trim nails drive trucks and provide the food we eat your older neuron already screws on the back rooms.

These are her charms for most absolutely try to call everyone just because he world vision shoes are the backbone of our economy and millions of the most struggling to stay afloat. You do whatever you have to do coming up. Also Tim Cook is the CEO of Apple and on the eve of the tech giants annual worldwide developers conference this morning.

He's talking with our John Dickerson, Tim Cook says he's happy is among people who share his love for technology, but an important part of his job is putting in face time with those who don't share all of his values. There are always things that good people can work on together. I think that helped even people with very different views. It sounds like you're describing your interactions with Pres. Trump why what was what was going one-on-one with Tim Cook later on Sunday morning with Tracy Smith.

We take note of new music from Yusuf Islam, formerly Cat Stevens, Jeff Begay surveys proposals to reform the nation's police Michelle Miller tells the true tale of today's black cowboys, plus Jim Gaffigan and more. Our Sunday morning for 21 June 2020 will be back in a moment he's been among the most, if not the most prominent governors in the land these past few months, which is why I'm in conversation with New York's Gov. Andrew Cuomo, the executive mansion in Albany New York has been home to, among others, Grover Cleveland Roosevelt Franklin Roosevelt your this is a wheelchair that he used in this home and for the past nine years, Andrew Cuomo, the lovely home is not pony where West home.

He parked there is no report on the second floor is a little more casual familiar his father, Mario Cuomo died in 2015 was a three term governor of New York is sitting right in the corner watching the ballgame with the telephone is never more than 10 feet away from the telephone today. Andrew Cuomo is having a moment morning. Despite being the global epicenter of the covert crisis, the spring, suffering a staggering death toll of 25,000. It was a silent explosion that just ripples through society. New Yorkers give their governor and approval rating of nearly 80% covert arrived with a single confirmed case on March 1 conditions Mario three weeks later infections now in the thousands New York State on pause. Cuomo shut down the state. Some say not soon enough the curve is actually increasing Marshall's New Yorkers to battle the curve, the virus rate is wholly dependent on what you do. How high and how steep was in their hands. We slowed the infection rate by our actions. You have a political jujitsu you and a handful of other governors ask people to do hard things and got more popular corporate when is it over. Nobody knows this was a frightening. People were afraid for their life literally how I keep my elderly parents safe you personally. I felt that also, and I wanted to connect with the people I was talking to and talk. He did today was a 56 from March 2 until just last Friday from worst to first, we are controlling the virus better than any state in the country 111 daily briefings. New Yorkers informed and riveted. You pick the 26,000 people who are going to die while watching the curve rise 779 people. The state needed help from the federal government. Just give me my money back. Sen. called on another New Yorker. Pres. Trump also from Queens. Some say that's where the similarity ends. I said to the president is only one truth. My statements help every student. This is a federal crisis and if you shirk your federal responsibility. I will say that and I was truly the president sent in the Army Corps of Engineers. We build temporary hospitals all across the state.

He sent up U.S. Navy ship comfort. He did that but in Cuomo's view Pres. Trump could have and should have done more.

I know he appreciates it. He just can't quite get the words out, but that's okay. This was a national crisis, the federal government should step in aggressively and I wanted my state. I owned the situation. For better or worse, for better or worse.

It was always a schizophrenia from the federal government they would help when pushed to help.

There were voices that always wanted to minimize it.

This is just the flow is going to pass this virus is going to disappear and then there was a desire to reopen, reopen, reopen, I'd love to have it open by Easter.

And you know where we are now Dow Jones tumbles again. Fear of second way. That's what happens when you reopen and you don't do it intelligently. You do it politically.

After peaking in early April. New York began to flatten the curve and in May it started to bend New Yorkers where that projection curve with two hands and hold it down by June the state reported the lowest infection rate in the nation to decrease for the past 60 days, but at such great cost. Is it a wonder that people are wary and eager to move on despite covert cases rising in more than 20 states.

The president is in campaign mode holding rallies and declining to wear a mask. I would wear what it was. I thought it was important became about ideology yes and that was mostly made that mistake was president. The history books will have to decide how will history record. You answer that question all answer for my actions and then history will decide history turns on times like these in rapid succession. Three seismic events, global pandemic and economic aftershock and then eight minutes and 46 seconds that galvanize the world and the social movement against 400 years of racism in this country. There's a moment captured. How do you make it last degree question Mr. Floyd's murder. That is one in a long list of rendered situations about the Rodney King. 30 years ago, do the aloe brutalized Eric Garner was killed in New York much the same six years early outrage, but not the national international Ridge. I think because it's the same moment between covert and Mr. Floyd's murder. We are one. We are connected when you killed Mr. Floyd you killed my brother. My family member and I stand with the protesters. Just as millions of American families have watched history unfold at home together, so has the Cuomo found in a grand house were all new memories made your mother do the renovation of the whole mansion so my mother can walk into a room now will tell you exactly every piece of furniture every piece of fabric so there are a lot of good memories.

New York's former First Lady Matilda Cuomo has been the house for her son lately. You see your mother last all breaks my heart.

I have not seen her since this started I put myself in a lot of situations where I might be exposed. My mother is still young, but she is in a category where she is vulnerable. So I literally not seen her since this started, but the governor doesn't lack for company. The covert lockdown brought his three daughters home. This is a gift. This will never happen again. Every second I get. I spent time with them and her boyfriend and the boyfriend was working not still, was married for 15 years to carry Kennedy, the daughter of Robert F.

Kennedy, and until last year was in a long relationship with author and TV chef Sandra Lee, but he's unattached now you are a bachelor got a nice house air having a moment and you can't do a thing with it just social life in a phase 1 relationship possibly is not an unfortunate circumstances where I think know your battle. I know you talked about being available.

Yeah the house is mine like a rental route one day I can reopen the economy but dating that's a whole thing beyond my control. Isn't it. I find it really hard to accept. After decades in government.

You don't have a political agenda in your future that's on the back of your mind four years from now either.

Donald Trump will not run for reelection or Joe Biden will be 82 and probably there will be search for a Democratic nominee and I cannot believe that Andrew, won't be on that stage. Joe Biden is going to be the president of the United States. I believe that I believe Joe Biden will run for second term and 82 yes and I hope to be the governor of the state of have something to contribute. This is my home.

I love it and I'm happy to hear that your father never ran for president is still you know, one of the great mysteries of political life. What is your mother say we haven't had the conversation really really cowboys, not just the stuff of movies and old TV Westerns, far from it.

Michelle Miller tells us that for cowboys and cowgirls of a certain story tradition, their time is now on a recent Sunday in June. Randy Hook saddled up his horse to join other marchers incompetent California is not about the peas ride is the leader of the comp thing cowboys showcase would look like to come together. The only woman applied to company cowboys. Monique also wrote that day alongside her mother and her three-year-old daughter stand out more.

Because this is necessarily see in any other neighborhood especially incompetent when people comp and I think her images of Dr. Dre easy way of violence and that Walter Thompson Hernandez has written a book about the Compton cowboys a generation of young black people who learn to ride as children.

Their motto the streets raised us horses saved us in different ways. If it wasn't for the horses. They show that they would like the ranch to me is this so much more than a horse is an oasis in a place where people go to you to find meaning many Americans first learned of black cowboys and cowgirls when they appeared in recent protest marches around the country forcibly in the United States is that we are invincible in a lot of different places. This is our black cowboy walk of fame.

In fact, there is a long, proud history of black cowboys in America when people come in and see our little house and examine all of these wonderful pictures of actual cowboys, it blows you away Terry gentry docent in the black American West Museum in Denver, Colorado almost one in three cowboys is black. One in three yes, among them Edward Cheatham not love and best reads. He arrested over 3000 people during his career as a deputy marshal from what we understand the stories of the Lone Ranger were based on batteries. Life after the Civil War. Since gentry black cowboys played a key role in settling the West. Why would the cowboy way appeal to so many of these formerly enslaved people is an incredible amount of freedom with managing cattle. It's very very tough way to make a living, but I would imagine there's a lot of gratification in being out in the open plains underneath the stars.

Maurice Wade learn to ride on his grandfather's farm but I used to watch her cowboys on TV and I never saw American cowboy if we did see one. He was like on the chuck wagon wheel drive then that Bill Pickett invitational. Romeo started a name for famous rodeo bull daughter Bill Pickett well, yes, the spaceship's brothers come from complete and also champions young writers like 12-year-old savanna Robert won the Bill Pickett ladies barrel racing championship in Denver this year, the adrenaline rush more towards the beginning of once I get going. I don't feel anything that I run a sled and go to second sister Alicia is her coach. That girl and also competes set.

But you should have an opportunity to experience weeks back, incompetent, one of the cowboys main goals is to pass on the tradition. It's been a get to them. We have a passion for horses. We have a passion and we all want to help our community be able to give them experience that we have gotten from horses will bring together is that if they don't teach the next generation that they might be talking last for small business to cover 19 pandemic continues to pose some very big problems. Economists estimate more than 100,000 small businesses have closed for good in recent months and a senior contributor Ted Koppel explains many others are fighting to survive Jim and Carol is trying to breathe life back into her searching-year-old Atlanta area business elsewhere has to sure to speak of Hollingshead Georgia was one of the first states to reopen in late April. Okay 97.3 these days. It means limiting the number of people in the house alone while coaxing the fearful those still reluctant to venture out to come back. So Ms. Allen, we do require everyone to wear a mask on the command cleaning center chosen for their sake. Certainly, washing hands for 20 seconds about the ladies also stifle her own worries about bringing something home to take her temperature might inflict her daughter's age 3 and six.

Jenna's single mom be very I'm still very scared every day that I work I come home thinking, and I'm scared to get my kids wondering in anything today. David Ward runs a dairy farm outside Amsterdam, New York, 78, and that makes them particularly vulnerable to the courtroom of what he needs to stay away you can always visit his firm once a week called while we were there also serve the workers. Folders no herd of 3600 head of livestock, all oblivious to the coronavirus crows do not care 40% of the milk they produce normally goes to restaurants are currently closed, or heavily skill but do they care that one of the firm's tractors broke down through four extra just to know what to do. Tractors cost what it cost to fix her tractor so I stepped tractors out to be six place to 44,021 Marine is an independent trucker comes from a long line of trucks whose father drove a truck is due to his father's father and several of his uncles goes almost all his only home is Opal looses Louisiana so all you afraid of slow business is picking up a little but running still spends more time at home than is good for business.

He holds everything from soap to oil refinery equipment lending contracts from the central hoping some truckers and companies prosper. Tell me what government jobs you've had over the lives months which was Margaret so was in the last months you've only had two runs present enough to keep body and soul.

You know I have additional skills. I bought when I read lock when we read in the newspapers that there are hundreds of billions of dollars are being made available for small business, your small business micro business is one that employs fewer than 10 employees. Since we talked were they got $6800 in federal loan assistance, but that he says will blow small so right now personal credit – a couple questions.

Have you or anyone in your family. Jericho's nail salon is open business remains limited rally open at this point, maybe two or three days a week can you stay afloat financially breaking even now were not were not we need to open every single day. But there's no clientele is not only 45+ so a lot of them are still scared.

They always come back and cancel my doctor says I got so many phone calls note just to complicate things further, you were on the verge of openness, or commercial still trying to line general brand-new shopping center that still under construction. Several of the other businesses have just really scary because if I don't then I lose everything were usually a lot of money.

I dumped about $40,000 of my own money.

So I think it would be a huge loss for me what your biggest worry is where is just you know the business, not surviving the because this is how wrong this is my life just stay in touch through the summer and see what David Ward's dairy business operates a much greater scale for about a week in April. He tells us he was losing about $20-$25,000 is lost loads expensive hello that is preloaded note is about 7500 go eight loads 60,000 gallons of milk dumped over the course of three weeks. Cows do not stop producing because of the changing market.

Millions of hungry people you have thousands upon thousands upon thousands of gallons of milk that you have to throw away.

Is there some way of letting organizations come and pick up the milk and feed people that we produce is wrong.

There is a chance that some type back. The rusted have somebody committed to legal challenges, but what genera have in common is an uplifting sense of optimism will I suppose I could be a negative thinker, but I choose not to choose to look at the positive basis of expected to make it through this horror breakdown room. We walk 6 miles 4 miles to get what we need to get back in the morning and no one knows what to rewrap this conversation. What's the bottom line you know where the best we can and want to be kind and use their best judgment to come out your best judgment on progress and crazy time once final point is when people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream wondered what was happening with John Dickerson 60 minutes were about to find out from CEO Tim Cook as we speak right now you're full of secrets. I full of secrets. It is hard not to overflow. Right now, but I do try and well. Tim Cook will finally get to share the secrets tomorrow when he kicks off Apple's 31st annual worldwide developers conference talk about now. The next opportunity to transform the world. It's a gathering of programmers from around the world and create the content that fuels what Apple calculates his trillion dollar economy. Well, if you're consumer you find out some of your most favorite software features are announced there. If your developer you get some new technology that you can incorporate in your app to make your app even better if you're somebody like me, that sort of steps back and looks at all.

You see the intersection of technology in the liberal arts and it really make your heart say so, are you among your people there when this happened. Oh yes oh yes I would like everyone if it were physical, I'd be right there with everybody else, but the conference will not be physical this year for the same reason were doing this interview 2500 miles apart. As a consequence of COBIT 19 Apple will host a virtual conference promising more than just a grainy work around their promising to innovate the phone iPhone Apple's iPhone introduced in 2007 has transform not just communication but nearly every aspect of our lives and the iPhone has helped make Apple one of the wealthiest companies in the world market capitalization comparable to the gross domestic products of Australia, Spain or even Saudi Arabia. Apple has a market cap of about 1.4 trillion.

What is the role of the CEO in a socially responsible company that has that kind of size in the world you know there was a time back many years ago where CEOs were just supposed to focus on profits only and not so much the constituencies and that's never been my view, I've never subscribed to the cook recently posted a statement on Apple's homepage addressing the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police an incident that may very well have gone unnoticed if not for cell phone video do you ever reflect on the role the iPhone has played in being able to record moments like the nearly 9 minutes that George Floyd was at an officers knee on his neck. We are humbled by we are humbled by if you look back in time. Some of the most dramatic societal changes have occurred because someone captured video. This is true about things that happened in Birmingham. It was true about things that happened in Selma. The thing that is change the and were very proud of this is that we put a camera in everybody's pocket and so it becomes much tougher as a society. I believe took to convince themselves that it didn't happen or that it was hard. It didn't happen in a different manner or whatever it might be and I think fundamentally, this one will change the world. Tim Cook is been Apple CEO for nearly a decade now and he is a product of a very different world. He was born in 1960, small-town Roberts Dale Alabama. Do you remember your first experience with racism.

I remember John as if it were yesterday saying doors. That said, and it is sometimes it had been tried to scratch through whites only and fundamentally not understanding how people could convince themselves that this was right.

I do believe optimistically. This is one of those moments that we can make significant progress for so many things. It seems like there's such slow progress and then all the sudden there's a giant leap. You want to make that be bigger that's exactly right. Six years ago Cook took a leap of his own becoming the first openly gay fortune 500 CEO to the Supreme Court recently said that there can no longer be discrimination against people based on their orientation. What was your reaction to that. I was incredibly grateful for the for their opinion and I applaud the justices who stood up and did Cook's outspokenness on civil rights has put him on what might appear to be a collision course with Pres. Donald Trump in your interactions with Donald Trump. You have a lot of issues that Apple cares about, but the ministration also has policies on immigration on human rights that are totally antithetical to your personal views do you bring up some of these issues with Donald Trump in your conversation.

Of course I do. And on on that issue my mind as I said before, all roads lead to a quality I believe that everyone should be treated with dignity and respect is basically that simple and that we start life on this equal footing and then the people that work hard can it had another sorts of things, but we should start life on equal footing and I I long for that.

There is one issue, however, where Cook appears to see eye to eye with the president keeping corporate taxes low. What is the metric you think about in terms of your desire to be socially responsible and your fiduciary duty to keep basically paying his low taxes as possible while our responsibility is to pay what we go just plain and simple, but as you think about it, paying what you always kind of that's the standard every company does that. Is there a way in which the value proposition you been talking about operates when it comes to paying taxes. You can see that we do a lot more than pay taxes, we turn the company upside down to help the world on covert and donated all of the hundreds of millions of dollars so II think my own view is you pay what you all in taxes and then you give back to society, and Apple is clearly doing that. COBIT 19 is affecting more than just the company's bottom line. Take a look at Apple's multibillion-dollar California headquarters. It's nearly empty and Tim Cook would like nothing more than to get his people back under one gleaming roof that is the biggest challenge I would say and what were dealing with the thing that I worry that will be missing is that is the serendipity that we all count all and is so that for that reason, I can't wait until were all back together again. We are all called in the age of 19 to tolerate extraordinary uncertainty. How has it been managing that both in terms of products and also your employees the uncertainty of the world we live in. But you know people generally dislike uncertainty.

I would say as a general rule, I know very few people that thrive on uncertainty.

They try to take an uncertain thing and make it a bit more certain, they do that by estimating where things are going. By predicting the worst that can happen in the best that can happen and we have done all of those things I would tell you but the most important thing for us is we viewed it as a challenge to overcome expected this year has special meaning for our gym again. Did you know that the number one on Father's Day is a phone call from their children. That's right time, not a bottle of barbecue equipment only and personal coffee mugs, which by the way 7% of all called excess phone call from my children. I spent the last three months with my children and only my children one days quality time with my time 24 just call me on Father's Day wouldn't be around me. I would really hear them scream complain call no call to voicemail tax. Sorry I can't talk right now call you in five minutes, but I call this Father's Day. I'm calling you dad, especially if you live from the president to the Congress to the demonstrators out on the streets, calls for police reform came from many quarters this past week.

Here's Jeff Geddes.

The signs are everywhere defined militarized about calls for wholesale changes in pleasing global just a few weeks ago.

I think we need to understand that law enforcement is an actual governmental agency that needs to be held accountable and need to have less power over communities trees colors is the cofounder of black lives matter. A lifelong activist and recently co-authored a memoir about the movement we created this idea that law enforcement is the community and they are not. They have been deeply repressive force just kill black communities, humiliated views, violated over and over again, black lives matter started in 2013, after the killing of trave on Martin in Florida is become more prominent as the number of killings of black people continued Michael Brown and Ferguson Taylor in Louisville, Georgia, Florida, Minneapolis, Ray shot Brooks in Atlanta when black lives matter.

Are you saying the black lives matter more than other lots in question were saying black lives matter to really say is all lives won't matter until black lives matter is tension between the police. Gary Potter is a criminology professor at Eastern Kentucky University who was written about the history of policing in America which, in the South dates back to the early 1700s and the slave patrols slave patrols were designed to perform three functions to provide current and also atmosphere of terror around plantations.

No disorders, no hundreds those slave patrols involved in the police departments while in the North departments grew out of colonial watch programs 1900 saw police in some places, with the help of the Ku Klux Klan cracking down on black Americans enforcing racial segregation and suppressing calls for equality that still existed black community is over please for my fractions drive statistics show the black people are imprisoned at five times the rate of whites and three times more likely than whites to be killed by police. So are you calling all police officers racist know this is not an issue of the individual issue of the system has been in place for very long time that is wedded to institutional racism. So it's less about the individual. Although many people individual officers who cause harm and violence to be accountable were talking about systems and that is very very important for people to understand. Absent Terrence Cunningham most definitely does not want to abolish the police, is a former police chief in Wellesley, Massachusetts, but in 2016 when he was president of the international Association of Chiefs of police.

You delivered a speech that he hoped would improve police community relations. The first step in this process is for the law-enforcement profession and the ICP to acknowledge and apologize for the actions of the past and the role that our profession is played. Society's historical mistreatment of communities of color. It was a bold but controversial acknowledgment that you can't change the future without admitting the mistakes of the past and they feel they have complete objectivity.

There is no implicit bias racism built into their thought process that the lens of an oppressive enhance the police for lease since the late 19th century the 20 century option makes that are stuck have to understand that is all that history on with understand that history to repeat. If that's the past years how Cunningham looks to the future change right now 9% services services and that might get to the heart of a large part of the defined the police movement. The idea that police are spending most of their time not preventing or solving crimes. But on what are essentially social issues why your local law enforcement.

The first responders to mental health care needs. Why first responder to homelessness why drug and alcohol and often times will be seen over and over again people calling the police specific serum mental health care crisis and dying because there are actually more police in this country than all the types of social workers, combined we need to fully fund or fully education mental health services and health services so that some problem doesn't get back to do that. We probably need to remove some of the funding from police service across the country powerfully which are often but activist point. Hopefully programs like boots and work their 911 operators routinely dispatch social workers and medics to calls for help instead of an officer with a gun release addiction to an economy actually leaned into an economy of care and we believe that our communities will be better off because of it. The Supreme Court down a landmark ruling for gay and transgender workers this past week. Some thoughts on that this morning from one of the plaintiffs in the case. I'm sure about stock seven years ago I was fired because I'm I was in a dream job. I love working on behalf of underserved children in Clayton County, Georgia, near Atlanta for 10 years. I had a glowing record and then I joined the gay softball league to work on my health after beating prostate cancer. That's when things change within six months I was fired I lost my job and my medical insurance while in recovery after my cancer treatment. My story is just one so many stories so many others have lived in fear of being their true selves at work but along with my fellow plaintiffs in this case, Amy Stevens and Don are now rest in peace.

I thought back in that fight became so much bigger anything I could've imagined this past week.

We want our nation's highest court held that employer fires a person from being gay or transgender defies the law. Now no one has to go to work. They'll lose their job because of who they are or who they love.

Thank you to the Supreme Court for recognizing basic human rights and sending a clear signal that we should treat each other with dignity and respect. We still have a long way to go to stamp out discrimination.

Recent events_injustices in our society and remind us that we have to work harder discrimination any kind has no place in this world. I hope this decision provides hope to the LGBT Q people everywhere. All those who work to uphold and support our civil rights.

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