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There remain many questions about how this could have happened and what it means for the future. As will be hearing from correspondence Ben Tracy and Ed O'Keefe along with our Lee Cowan I'm doing well with that came a modicum of call the president's own words cautiously optimistic about the infection.

It is with him. Quick summary of her birth. Questions remain about his prognosis for Howard and the impact on the presidential election will take a look at all of it hit on Sunday morning, Pres. trumps diagnosis comes roughly 7 months into the covert crisis.

It's been a difficult time for many of us, but especially working mothers with young children to take care of is Rita braver will show us and then it's on to the seven the Chicago seven, a landmark case from the turbulent 60s that's been made into a movie for our own troubled times. Tracy Smith will take us behind the scenes to years ago in another summer of social unrest. Protesters and police went to war by handful of police club protest leader and then they went to court wasn't as crazy as it seemed it was crazy story is a new field we want to underscore down the were coming to Chicago peacefully. But whether a given permits were common Chicago seven coming up on Sunday morning we take note this morning of singer-songwriter Lenny Kravitz was telling his life story and a brand-new memoir with Michelle Miller will pay him a visit. Lenny Kravitz rockstar blistering.

He thought his professional name should be Romeo blue. I was not comfortable with myself. Lenny prep made a name for himself later on Sunday morning. Gymboree has a political history of the October surprise Ted Koppel listens to some voices from the heartland Martha Stewart in the kitchen making jam plus thoughts from John Dickerson and more on this Sunday morning for 4 October 2020 will be ripe.

The presidents covert diagnosis has implications that go well beyond the personal our CBS news correspondence are tracking the impact both in Washington and beyond will begin with Ben Tracy. I'll be back I think will be back soon forward to finishing up the campaign the way it was started. Pres. Trump posted this video on his twitter feed last night addressing the nation from his hospital suite at the Walter Reed military Medical Center just wanted tell you that started to feel good.

You don't know. Over the next period of a few days. I guess that's the real test so will be seeing what happens over those next Couple of days late Saturday, his physician, Dr. Shawn Conley releases statement saying the president is making substantial progress, but not out of the woods yet. At this time.

The team I are extremely happy. The progress the president has made earlier.

Dr. Conley was evasive about whether Pres. Trump ever needed oxygen is not on oxygen right now.

That's right, CBS News has learned. Pres. Trump was given supplemental oxygen at the White House Friday and a source familiar with the president's health identified his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows by the Associated Press gave this sobering assessment that the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care. We are still not on a clear path to a full recovery. All residents from supporters have gathered outside the hospital where he is expected to stay for several days. The president has already been given to experimental drug therapies including rendered severe provided under emergency use to hospitalize covert patients. Dr. David Akers will put together and that they work differently against the virus. It makes clinical sets. What they did but yes this is experimenting. This is not standard of care by any what we know as a being 74. Being a man and being overweight.

I worry about his lungs more than anything not known how the president was infected last weekend's Rose Garden ceremony for his Supreme Court judge Amy Kony Barrett may have been a super spreader event guests will shoulder to shoulder not wearing masks outside or indoors at receptions several attendees now have the virus, including Senators Mike Lee of Utah, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, former White House counselor, Kelly and Conway and former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie checked himself into the hospital Saturday. The president's campaign manager Bill step in and top aide who picks are also infected just 72 hours of diagnosis now and Saturday to the presidents doctors suggested Mr. Trump might've known he was infected as early as Wednesday before trips to Minnesota for a rally in New Jersey for a fundraiser White House later said the doctors misspoke. But for an administration not known for transparency it's adding uncertainty to an already unsettling moment the country VP Mike pence has tested negative for the virus and is working from home officials here at the White House say there has been no formal transfer of power, and Pres. Trump is still in charge. This is Lee News from his position that the president is doing quote very well have a very good result. Combined with the president himself, saying that his own words positive again over the next few days will probably know for sure, but infectious disease specialists outside Mr. Trump echo what the president also said the next few days will be so you still have a fight ahead of you.

We have seen patients were actually prolonged symptoms until seven days, eight days after the onset of complications at that Dr. Albert Co. is chair of epidemiology of microbial diseases at Yale medical school. So what are we to make of the White House is probably be in the hospital for a couple of days. Does that give us an indication of how serious this might be. This is really precocious and into early in our experiences taking care of patients with Kobe Dr. Sagan, one balancing the presidents privacy with the needs of the nation to know is an easy CBS as chief medical correspondent Dr. Drumm, the history tells us more information is more common than what's one of the basic concepts of public health is to be transparent and I think that's especially important right now we don't want to be parsing words we don't want to be trying to interpret. Somebody says what are they really mean.

You want to just have them look straight at you what's going on and we can take it where grown-ups we just want to know what's going but we do know is the president is undergoing treatment five day course of the antiviral rendered severe as well as a dose of monoclonal antibodies.

Big scientific sense to me that you would want to give these kind of treatments that keep the viral load down as early as possible. You have to also understand this or experiment of treatments so what are the rest of us to take away from the president seeming fine. One day, and I'm the cold reality of code 19 is that even the best testing offers only a snapshot in time there deftly gaps in what tests can do and what they can't write you this misconception is I just flew in from another city and I want to get tested today because from negative I can see my grandmother tomorrow. No, because if you infected a week ago you could test negative today and then test positive tomorrow and become suddenly infectious. Which brings us back to what we've been hearing from health officials now face masks and social distancing remaining our best defenses. The meat and potatoes of public health response whether the president's opinions on public health protocols will change their great and maybe they're just good, maybe they're not so good. Anybody's guess, but for now he shares an unfortunate commonality with more than 7 million Americans who contracted the virus and is for the moment at its mercy, 19 crisis is hurting just about every body in one way or another. Rita braver has been talking to working mothers who say they are in a particularly stressful bind cans home health aid in the farming town of Sunnyside, Washington level of anxiety.

She and her husband Augustine a long-haul truck driver barely make ends meet with school now online. They can't afford a regular center for seven-year-old Kevin must rely on the patchwork of friends and family that he learned no see. I will she fears he's falling behind in his schoolwork yearns to be home to help financially. How hard would it be for you if you had to stop working or mothers are in an impossible situation doing their own job. Their childcare worker's job and their children's teachers jobs Prof. Joan C.

Williams is founding director of the Center for worklife law at the University of California, Hastings College of the law.

What's your call volume right now during the pandemic versus what it is.

In normal times.

Absolutely unbelievable. We had 250% increase in people calling us. Washington did provide some early release for family, but many people were ineligible most of that money has already run out and while plenty of fathers are struggling. A new study shows that women are almost 3 times more likely than men to be working to childcare demands because of the pandemic. 57% of moms now report depression and anxiety compared only third dad's 80% of mothers now say they're doing most or all of the housework and homeschooling. It's almost like people were just holding it together in the whole infrastructure is crumbling.

Well you know we were already a crazy situation in the United States anywhere. The only industrialized nation with no pain. Parental leave. It was a real Goldberg machine from the beginning and it just broke. You may have seen the funny images of multitasking murmurs, but William says many mothers are facing serious indifference or even hostility from employers.

All of them are feeling really really embattled right now. I was working for a Fortune 50 institution and I was working as one of leadership in our organization. Cybersecurity department but it all collapsed in March. Mia's company told everyone to work from home because of code 19 her babysitter could not come to the house. Her husband helped but as a high-pressure job to me.

I had most of the responsibility for baby Logan how did the company react toward this circumstance worked in a primarily male-dominated environment and I started noticing comments here and there that suggested people were not comfortable with it.

Having the baby out call with merely bringing him onto a conference line but make people uncomfortable so I comfortable because they didn't like seeing the baby in the work and I just received built questions like when he eagerly ever sleep dedicating the same amount of attention and care they normally would to the staff at the college of the meeting occupied with a guy very quickly. Soon she found herself left out of team meetings and actually semi-made that comment to me of what just happened by you because you're off.

Did you ever talk to superiors in the company and say look, I'm struggling here. Can you give me some relief and the response was you have to do these things are your prayers. In jeopardy, and that to me felt like a threat. She finally we designed struggling more and tells me truly because of the job that I had worked for 410 years minimum to get there that I was really angry. Mia was able to find a new family friendly job at a similar salary but not everyone is so lucky I'm still unemployed in a few months and I've been looking every single week ago insurance company where the piece on the Rios was in the current executive switch to work-at-home just as her one and four year old preschool shut down. Her husband's an essential worker gone all day. She says her manager immediately lay down the law right away say I do not want to hear the kids on client calls didn't want to hear your client calls at RCM right he would just question you know my availability which I didn't understand because I was available all the time. She says a male colleague with children was treated differently but no matter how hard she tried. She says her boss would not let up what else you wanted to do. Do you want me to lock my one-year-old room and so figure out and I was crying so I reported the discrimination to HR via email, and a week later they let me know and I believe it is the hundred percent retaliation because there's I was doing my job so the case is for wrongful termination, retaliation, although suing on behalf of Rios legal response hub International insurance services denies each and every allegation Rios makes and says that she was let go for legitimate business reasons, including her failure to perform her job duties. But Rios is part of a trend.

The government just announced that 865,000 women left the workforce last month versus 216,000 man, you know, this virus doesn't just cause people to die, but actually killing the working mothers careers you like, women are being sent back decades in their progress to where it's equality at work in mothers like Chris on the Rios are sounding an alarm to either work or not, or on both be working mothers when where and how to cast your ballot planning to vote by mail go online for state-by-state instructions and download the CBS News that the story of the seven the Chicago seven, is a story of protest and confrontation from long ago. That's about to be retold in a new movie Tracy Smith takes us back the season of social unrest become discontent. Looks like another time. One young rebel climbed up the lower the American flag. The nation was in turmoil right split over the Vietnam War police club protest leader and in late August. Outside the Democratic national convention in Chicago around 10,000 protesters squared off with about 23,000 police and all in less than a minute. What had been a relatively quiet crowd was a raging seven months later, the government charged the suspected ringleaders with, among other things, conspiracy and crossing state lines to incite a riot. At first there were eight Chicago defendants Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden Rennie Davis Bobby seal Lee Weiner John Freund's and David Belanger.

The lot is a recognized political anyone arrested, we were chosen their trial is now the subject of a new Netflix film.

The trial of the Chicago seven written and directed by Aaron Sorkin station the works for 14 years and says it took on a new urgency after Pres. Donald Trump took office, was there a moment in Donald Trump's ascendancy. When you said okay now I need to tell us it began when he was running for president at his rallies, shout out something nostalgic to punch him in the face of the days when the crap out of him and punch him in the face used to do to guys like that with a place like this be carried out on the stretcher felt the old days. He is talking about 68 the police went into the crowd clubbing one of those protesters Chicago seven, defendant Wendy Davis stretcher after taking a billy club to that was being followed by police and police were literally screaming show goodness and how that was your head injury. Go to the hospital and so I'll tell stories know there were sugar before public hospital 13 stitches and the police realize that I was hospital because I knew I close and so they started the search of a hospital room by room by room, mostly nurses, they could end her career, probably car covered with a sheet moving from room to room to hide you from the police for protesters and the police who were ordered to stop them.

It was a dangerous game. The activists all knew they were in for defendant line going is always a possibility. Not just because of chance Weaver testimonies that your plans for the convention were designed specifically to draw the police into a confrontation. If I'd known for switch my the control I would name the lot higher after Sasha Baron Cohen studied Abby Hoffman pointed to one man who is going is small.

What you think.

I think he was the smartest guy in the room. He looks this whole style of protest that was designed to elicit as much media attention as possible and generate lines on where the cameras we can't find it in the court because this is the cat is on trial. See fact Hoffman and his codefendant, Jerry Rubin became celebrities in their own right, as observed by our phone Bob Schieffer was writing it was cold.

In short, it was not a fit night out for man and beast. So it was only natural that those masters of media manipulation Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin should choose this night to hold a news conference. The only people to stop this trial, but the trial was a very different experience for the bone black defendant Bobby seal seal wound up representing himself and he clashed with Judge Julius Hoffman Bobby seal was guide been trained today for refusing to obey the drug handcuffs were clamped onto both wrist leg iron shackled both groups in a white linen cloth reinforced with adhesive tape was not behind his neck is breathtaking. You would try to pull his hands up and then he would just be claw in front of the jury, and this went on for several days I was in any contempt with Judge Hoffman. I told you the American people.

Eventually Bobby seal's case was declared a mistrial in the Chicago eight became the Chicago 75 were convicted of some charges, but all were overturned on appeal. Their trial is history, but it seems their fight is still very much alive we needed to get more relevant. But it did and Kenosha, Washington.

When you see once again peaceful protesters tear gas, knights care a lot about this country to go out Street and face that kind of danger care a lot about America antiwar demonstrators gathered in Grant Park. Then, as now demonstrators risk their safety and their freedom themselves. Her surrounded by grim, silent soldiers. Demonstrators decided to sing and according to the Chicago seven, defendant line, all was crazy. It was dangerous to our efforts. Police this is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to repair the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put on my to something we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation with her situations not being matched up follow.

Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts president trumps covert diagnosis impact the 2020 presidential campaign. We check in with correspondent Ed O'Keefe in the coming days. You can expect what remains of this 2020 presidential campaign to look different.

A lot different on Wednesday, VP Penson, Joe Biden's running mate, Le Harris are still set to debate in Salt Lake City. She arrived Friday as a precaution. Think about this Thursday. Hence, Biden and Harris are also to hold campaign events in Arizona absent from the campaign trail, at least in person will be president Trump word you will not approve the micro Quicken full recovery. Biden has been wishing the ailing president well adding news as a reminder that we as a nation need to do better. Dealing with this pandemic the business of Washington is also set to continue majority leader Mitch McConnell said Saturday that the full Senate will meet in person. For the next two weeks, but the Judiciary Committee will in order to begin confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Amy Tony Barrett with two members of that panel Mike Lee of Utah and Tom Tillis of North Carolina, having tested positive for coping 19. It's unknown how they will participate. Much like everything else, the pandemic plunged the campaign into chaos back in March when the first public events were canceled ever since president Trump and opponent Biden have been a study in contrasts. Mr. Trump is rarely seen wearing a mask. Biden is rarely seen without my mask off.

I guess I can learn Biden's public events are small and infrequent only covert screen reporters, staff and VIPs can attend a social distance last Wednesday. Mr. Trump continued holding large public relics great always, many of whom don't cover their face from the campaign start Biden limited his appearances to brief remarks just as colossal as planning, leadership, and execution, and then mostly hunkered down at home in Wilmington, Delaware. I was recruited on this together, in recent days.

It's rare when Biden doesn't talk or tweet about the president's response to the pandemic reports. The reports all while Mr. Trump is consistently trying to avoid the subject raised doubts about his seriousness, or mock, Biden for his caution. Where mess like him every time you see me go to Mesquite could be speaking 200 feet away from it. He shows up with the biggest mask I've ever seen. Pulling from September showed 52% of voters believe Biden would do a better job handling the pandemic to the president's 38% and that was before Mr. trumps covert diagnosis and in a campaign season already wrong.

Many of the trappings which is 30 days to go the 2020 campaign might have to go without one of its candidate. At least for now, with word of the president's covert diagnosis supporters thinking about the coming election. Here, Senior contributor Ted Koppel election night November 1960. As we reported to you earlier we see very little probability now of any change in these figures it seems certain that John Fitzgerald Kennedy of Massachusetts will be the next president of the United States old Cronkite may not actually have been the most trusted man in America, but he wants trust, as were his counterparts on ABC and NBC, and if they should.

Kennedy was the president well that's the way you walk. As we go through the pipe toward the gone got in later votes in this one of the closest presidential elections in years. West Virginians were Democrats by 2016. This was so once lately have more money lately. What this can know County Sheriff Mark Welsh reflected local optimism really sorry things are going to drink think that he can help us four years later the rope from his support for Chrome is is that a lot president last four years. I feel he has yet to start when the buffer stalls really tell Democrats is going to make from already have MSNBC so you are already saying things that you know Trump should have already known this everything and they will be making fun of next week so until election in large part is on their dereliction is partly to blame for this. He chose to go out to rallies you chose to downplay masks he chose to not social distance and call it a hoax television network news ghosts provided a shared understanding of events almost social glue different parts of the nation together. It is understandable and understandable to be an arranged table television has turned to packaging the news. According to ideological preference.

The course was just the media affect the official message of the Democratic Party is a doll from Pettit, goon's room my cloche boat is a former chairman of the McDowell County Republican Party in West Virginia when we heard about the prayers of the cove where did you get the news. News flash on my phone the same time that it was released to the public lustful doesn't get much of his news from television anymore. You remember when back in the old days newscasters presented the news on my slightly just throw it out there hello, people think what they want away from the pure art reporting as well… Lost interest where you get your water comes from Facebook from YouTube's list of those is the current chair County Republican Party. Her husband Cody is a County commission this country's poor part that I think either way there's going to be up here. We don't want to do not think that in this country. So what are your friends know I just couldn't handle troponin more for Biden you just pray for what you know what if he said if he has to satisfy.

This is done been prophesied.

And if God chosen, we need to shut her mouth way I feel good if declawing is the mother of three husband was a coal miner shoes are college grads studied nursing boat covert people in this version been taking it seriously is a former nurse and I know people that have everything you newspaper. Where did you hear about the president cove. I think it was especially for some time now and by the millions people have been turning to social media platforms. The story of the 2020 election on social media is really one of the domestic partisan activity we've seen large hyper- partisan news outlets.

I'm just getting enormous numbers on social media and they're doing it in an environment where it's a pretty loose laissez-faire attitude toward truth and in which this goal is just to engage people to keep clicking and scrolling. Kevin Rose writes a column on technology for the New York to so you have these just enormous numbers for these hyper- partisan news sources that are basically disconnected from the larger mainstream media, but think what a lot of them have in common is that they're very skilled at provoking outrage is a saying that what's enraging is engaging Trump.

Of course eventually got coronavirus where we assembled facts in order to change her opinion was now the entirety of Silicon Valley is working against Donald Trump and Republicans this year. There is an accumulation of opinions regarding aspirin, which is that the evidence is somewhat mixed. Given which ultimately distort the fact if trauma loses its president, Harris, pay attention to your telling me the more people coming to the then collectively come to ABC news CBS news in terms Washington Post spell where they're going. So commentator named Ben Shapiro the media take care Trump just said the right things superscript and what he said he wouldn't have gotten cove. It is very popular among conservatives in the last 30 days on his Facebook page he is gotten 51.4 million interactions.

That's more than five times as many as the New York Times and it's more than CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, combined, leaving me speechless for the president is you and a lot of people that he has been with over the last few years are quite yet you're telling me more people are getting their information from these outlets are from what we have traditionally looked upon as reliable sources. Yeah, that's true. It's part of why there is so much misinformation about things like the coronavirus, I don't think that's all social media's fault. What I do think social media has done this radically amplified those things because they are engaging because they keep people's attention just saying wear a mask it works is useful message and even a lifesaving one very interesting whereas, whereas telling people that masks are part of a conspiracy that the government is engaging in mind control, but there is something nefarious going on.

I mean, these are thriller plots. I think ultimately the platforms ultimately have to decide whether or not they care if information is true or false, which would appear to lead to this conclusion when we are unable to agree on what constitutes the nature of the line. It can be all but impossible to settle on the cruise. The timing of the president. Cove diagnosis fits into a historical pattern. The recurrence almost every four years.

It seems of the phenomena known as the October surprise. Here's to proceed. When Pres. Trump announced early Friday that he and the First Lady had tested positive for COBIT. 19. It was just one in a series of head spinning shocks already tumultuous campaign.

The president does have mild symptoms. The doctors continue to monitor both his health and the health of the first lady this past Tuesday a ferocious debate left many viewers know the answer is no resident showing things. It's hard to get any word with this client.

Before that, a breathtaking report in the New York Times about Pres. Trump's tax returns. This president appears to have over $400 million in debt to home that came on the heels of the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the lightning quick nomination of conservative judge Amy Kony Barrett to replace her.

There's a name for unexpected events that occurred late in presidential campaign and have the potential to change the course of the election there called October surprises this year. They got an early start. All but the president's positive COBIT test happened in September or October surprise early Margaret Carlson who has covered many presidential campaigns for Time magazine says some October surprises are carefully orchestrated, but others come out of the blue man-made inmate surprise behind to control hurricane financial markets collapsing in 2008 or something in an ongoing scandal. The term October surprise first appeared in our political lexicon in 1980 when Republican Ronald Reagan was running against Democratic president Jimmy Carter in Toronto like the American embassies in the hands of several hundred Iranian students, 52 Americans were being held hostage in Iran during an election year and there was no end in sight.

It must be made that the failure to release the hostages will involve increasingly heavy cost to Iran and to its interest in 1980, Jimmy Carter and his staff really believe that if they could show progress in freeing the hostages that would be enough. That would take him over.

Larry Sabatino is director of the University of Virginia Center for politics. What they didn't count on was that the promises from the Iranians completely collapsed on the Sunday before the Tuesday election. So basically, Americans were told right before they went to the polls that it was either hopeless or they'd better try somebody new who would try new things to get the hostages back so that was in October surprise that Jimmy Carter thought was going to help him but it reversed.

It helped Reagan instead 1980 might've been the term October surprise was going but Sabado says the first president to benefit decisively from last-minute turn of events was Abraham Lincoln. Even Lincoln had not an October surprise, but a September surprise when Sherman took Atlanta. It probably saved Lincoln second term, he himself thought that he was going to loosen most of his cabinet, and it built enthusiasm in the north and finally they could see the light at the end of the tunnel. That light was a resounding victory. Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear it's rare October surprise actually changes the outcome of an election Washington Post reporter Devlin Barrett believes it did happen four years ago.

Yeah, I think Jim call me. The director of the FBI without intending to change the outcome of the election.

Barrett is the author of a just released book in which he contends that the 2016 October surprise came in the form of a letter to Congress. From then director of the FAI. The letter announced a new FBI investigation into emails found on a laptop belonging to Clinton campaign advisor Houma Aberdeen, whose husband, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner was under investigation for online sex crimes. The announcement was made just 11 days before the election, and one reason it was so powerful is because Trump had made such a big deal out of the Hillary Clinton emails. So this fit right into his one of his main messages against her. That's absolutely right, it actually fit into the Republican critique an attack on Hillary Clinton. The other part of it too is that it came from a very credible place if FBI Dir. Comey had not sent this letter to Capitol Hill.

You believe Hillary Clinton, the president today.

I do, and more importantly the people who study the data.

Believe it and what they say is it is the single most measurable impact on the outcome. Last night I congratulated Donald Trump then offered to work with him on the behalf of our country. Barrett admits that we can never know with absolute certainty that it did change the election result do know that another 2016 October surprise did not do anything grab the notorious Access Hollywood take Donald Trump bragging in 2005 about sexually accosting women did not block his path to victory. Every Sabado says it's unlikely and sober surprise this year will change the result of the election. I don't think October surprises her to work as well. This year because we're so polarized everybody's in their own tribe, Democratic or Republican, and they're not going to move baby so but with the way things are going more. October and even November.

Surprises seem likely campaign that makes the term political roller coaster sound quaint the president's health crisis throws the final month of this volatile political campaign into even further uncertainty which brings us to senior political analyst John Dickerson this week when the vice presidential candidates debate. They will be 5 feet further apart than originally planned campaign taking place, a world apart. The one inhabited by the presidential candidates just VP Pentz was at the same event where the president might've been infected but so far it appears he was out of the loop still, Harris has asked for the extra distance just to be safe. What it means to be safe and what accommodations are necessary during the pandemic will be a key debate topic matter of national importance on which the campaigns disagree has also distinguish the way they carry out their campaigns. Resident Trump Mark Joe Biden's mask wearing and precautions repeatedly ignored the guidance of his own health officials. The debate over these issues is no longer abstract inevitable abstract questions about whether the vice presidential candidates can step into the job if required, a little too on the nose that used to be the most important question. VP Bates otherwise they were characterized by peppery exchanges because the role used to require planning the attack dog, Sen., your note call center VP had a little John Adams called it the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived FDR's sidekick John Nance Garner said the job was not worth a bucket of warm well say it wasn't fresh milk. Adm. James Stockdale, Ross Perot's running mate famously felt this way during a debate mine while my hair many vice presidents have felt that way in office. But the modern vice presidency is a more muscular job role of president picks for his number two tells us something about how the chief executive builds their team and deploys talent. Dick Cheney -shaped energy policy and the war on terrorism. Joe Biden negotiated with Congress manage the economic recovery and play chief skeptic on Afghanistan. Mike Pentz leaves the task force combating coronavirus vice presidency is no longer about just being up to the task. If something awful happens. Modern version of the office if something awful happens, the vice president might also bear some responsibility. I'm Jane. Polly, please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning with this week.

Stephen Long live Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm money list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's surprise, New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation followed the take-out with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts