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Jane Pauley hosts "Behind the Badge," a special edition of "Sunday Morning" that explores issues of policing in America and around the world. Stories include: Ted Koppel on police rebuilding trust in their communities; Seth Doane on how European police training differs from training in America; Mark Whitaker interviews Bill Bratton, former police commissioner in Boston, New York City and Los Angeles; Lucy Craft goes on patrol with police in Tokyo; Steve Hartman revisits stories of police who wear a badge over a loving heart; and Lee Cowan meets an Iowa police chief who is also a pastor.

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Learn more@edwardjones.com. I'm Jane Pauley and this is a special edition of Sunday morning after a painful year. That's brought the issue of police reform in America to center stage where spending this morning looking behind the badge examining issues surrounding law enforcement in America was no way we can explore every issue of concern in these next 90 minutes will certainly be trying our best hearing from the experts, the critics and of course the police themselves. Ted Koppel begins our look at policing in America during regular more difficult for good, it should be doing other things should not be a lot of work. Many people use different things, but most are doing what they can weave those people out every single department is one video away from disaster review. Never in history itself. Our search for answers this morning will take us near and far, with a look at state-of-the-art policing both in this country and abroad.

As Seth Stone will explain will go on patrol this morning around the world examining policing and its alternatives. John Blackstone is on the streets in San Francisco, not a crime.

Lucy craft shows. This community policing the Japanese way whole floor is just for umbrellas and in Europe it would be murder in Europe to allow an officer to shoot somebody. Just because they're standing there with a knife. Some novel ideas from the world of law enforcement later this Sunday morning. Few people know more about policing in America. Both the issues and some possible solutions than Bill Bratton former police Commissioner of New York City will be talking with our Mark Whitaker, Bill Bratton climbed the ranks from Rocky 1970 to running the police departments in three of America's largest city and he is sounding an alarm, I would be a cop today, America's top of the probably any other time going back to the early 70s as if we just marking time talk cop's perspective on policing I had on Sunday morning, Lee Cowan will introduce us to a policeman who is also a pastor, a man wearing two hats with one singular vision. I'm just around the corner so call me anytime. I will police officer Edgar Rodriguez embodies Midwest nice ideal, but no pushover either.

I do give them tough love and the truth is the truth and they need to know that I know that I see them and I expect more of them.

That's because he's also watching them. You won't have to say managing the said that all I wish I wouldn't of done that from the pulpit.

The police officer who's also a pastor coming up on Sunday morning. What happened will have those stories plus commentary from loved ones of police officers and loved ones of victims of police plus thoughts on policing from Steve Hartman and more all on this special edition of Sunday morning, June 6, 2021 and will be back in a moment.

They keep the peace, apprehend the criminal investigate wrongdoing and respond to emergencies. Large and small our police wear many hats. But perhaps more than ever.

Their actions are being called into question our senior contributor Ted Koppel looks at one of the most difficult jobs in America Norman Rockwell have this way of capturing what was best about America. The runaway locked in the image of a little boy's trust in puerile worship of a cop but was 1950. Even today, you will still find people picking up an officer's term for lunch just records And quite often quite often. Lieut. Kim emerge as a watch commander for the Clay County Sheriff's office in the northeastern corner of Florida. They normally will, then introduce themselves and just let us know that they live within our county and let us know that they appreciate what we are doing and then they'll pay it without even telling us officer Adam Deming is usually's 13 year veteran with the police in Charleston, South Carolina. In his case it was her hair cooked barbershops that go to the area and assigned actually the last two months I've had some stranger pay for my because just because I'm not a researcher I didn't know who they were. I guess just out of respect. One of the night and you shake his hand disappeared before finish my initial small gestures of appreciation still occur and 1/2 and whole bunch of the current tree spade is a patrol officer in Montgomery County, Maryland couple weeks ago, someone had bought me breakfast as I think you will get that Jeff and was working for you. It gives you a glimmer of hope that you whether they saved enough people still want you there.

There where you are there and I want to thank you in some way. It seems counter intuitive just a year after George. George killing but public trust in law enforcement is actually gone up over the year, USA Today shows survey last March showed 69% of Americans trust bullies to promote justice and equal treatment of all races. That's 13%. Even so, we should love your colleagues know talking about considering quarter this war just because of the so much of anti-police not being treated well those, things just discouraging people for Mr. Carell just changed the way people view us in the way they view our role in society are jobs when you talk about the way people preach.

It was always there performs a little, but not as much but nowadays people tend to come at us more with an antagonistic tone is no more respect for authority or respect that they were there to help your to resolve the situation. People just come at us with total anger from both sides know you're facing the double your blood, so you good note from Bunche's.

It's hard because viewing me as another black African-American. They see me. Just as the uniform just as a police officer.

Do you get a feeling of resentment from other African-Americans were there saying, how could you all names, everything. Instead of appreciating that there saying another face in law enforcement that looks like there's I'm still a traitor.

Uncle Tom, you name it I met before was a cop. I was a young African-American male Senior lead officer Dejan Joseph has been with the Los Angeles Police Department for 25 year CRM relatively but back then it was the same thing.

I was only exposed to the negative.

I grew up in the right a king or a jointed activist that espoused the same things that were here today the music I listen to the movies I watch. Everything was geared toward telling the police officer evil, but the difference between myself and the rest of the community is.

I was one of the few that stepped across the line and saw the other side. What I saw on the other side was the vast majority of officers are decent human beings but yes there is a negative exception that we all need to work hard to try to root out and I think were trying to do that over the years, the LA police force has had a bad rep as far as research in Scripture that second strike was a news bulletin aquatic to present position that we've evolved where not the department that we were 1967 or even a 90s if you want to roll call today, you wouldn't see just blonde haired blue-eyed white guys and you would see Hispanics Blacksburg from LB GT to community people from all different face walks of life. What are you seeing on the street you get the sense that people recognize and appreciate the changes you're talking about what I would say prior to the pandemic we were seeing that and then what happened in Minneapolis that horrible tragedy with George Floyd.

So a lot of people just ended up making up their own minds that all police are back that all police are inherently evil and that something that were trying to combat as we speak. On the other side of the country in a high school in Jones, which falls within the city limits of trust, South Carolina, local culture were for a monthly community circle school resource officer and a Deming Charles police initiated the program after the death of George floor*these are going on only what's the biggest issue is first, that community appears to be a concert so inside of the school they trust me, they trust the officers that bring in, but outside of the school walls they don't know if they can trust someone who isn't near who is one of the group.

They been able to have dialogue with and asked the question how we bridge that gap. These meetings are helpful and well-intentioned but there are no match for examples of police misconduct captured on the cell phone video and distributed worldwide on social media.

From my standpoint in the school for like sometimes I'm taking two or three steps forward in the right direction and gain the trust of more my students, the more the community and then an incident happens whether it be local or whether he nationwide and it knocked me back six years ago, North Charleston police were at the center of a national firestorm when this video is 50-year-old African-American older Scott were shot in the back while running away from police he'd been stopped having a nonfunctioning taillight you had the situation in your community that got national attention. What was the reaction told not to comment.

I guess on the water status is just being told sorry the city of North Charleston reached is 6 1/2 million dollars settlement with Walter Scott's family police officer who killed him is serving a 20 year prison sent us this is one is a positive incident that happened that are now easier to understand or see because her literally recorded Patrick Skinner is a detective in Savannah, Georgia, rented apartment, but I know that are many many many many police officers I get it right. And I'm certain that department. Take a right. But as he seen every single department in every city is one video away from disaster at an age when many concert considering retirement. Skinner, whose 50 has only been on the savanna police force a little more than four year before that I worked the securities on the door for the CIA case officer for about seven and half years only lactic. Take care my dad was on Alzheimer's and I came back home.

Skinner was born in Savannah. I remember leaving her as a child and is also white seven kids and then right now, white seven, I'm literally the least persecuted personal plan.

I wear this when people dismiss race. That means they've never been the victim of races. I'm honestly afraid to get out and take the recent case of Army Lt. Col. Nazario in Virginia who was held at gunpoint and pepper sprayed during a traffic stop. You had a young African-American man in uniform soldier polite, and yet he was pulled out of his car. I suspect there has to be a part of the conversation that says you don't get away with the same thing. The white kids that have content right off the bat and is no mixing work and it's going to be different and I try to encourage them to do the same thing the plight be respectful that military, he was being respectful and polite. The officer still did not treat him in a way that I would treat people. There are people that should be doing other things that should not be allowed to work at.

Think according. I have not done according for me it's one of the things where if I didn't stick around to do this job is to take my place with living in a world in which cops are taking early retirement. Can you relate to the absolutely and is disheartening to hear police officers across the nation leaving quitting and retirement so early when right now, more than any any other time in history.

Their communities need them. I'm not angry at them for it because I understand exactly how they feel. Many times, police officers are made to be the tip of the spear for systemic failures like homelessness, like mental illness, like the school systems when the system fails this with a call to deal with the police and they have to do is work.

Patrick Skinner refers to as this 911 call and leisure houses on fire and police car mechanics to fix it properly. Car accident in your mailbox, your husband shooting all the every states to police officers, there is nothing else but the police and so for long time right now. Please use that kind of as a realistic excuse because it is we are not social workers. We are not doctors. We are not mechanics but we have to be that we are actually responding to systemic failures, and we get blamed because we are the tangible form of government that people can say that government look at what you're doing. So I think the systemic failures give society the perception that we failed know we are responding. For the most part two. Failure to not just fill in the community.

Also failing us as well.

More than a thousand people a year. I killed and police shootings in this country. By far the most among wealthy nations. We ask our sat down to report on policing in Europe to see if there are lessons worth learning.

The examples are devastating.

Sometimes a deadly and certainly familiar Warren Senior was killed by an officer in Texas earlier this year after his family phone for psychiatric help. Five men got to the ground in Salt Lake City last fall, Linden Cameron, a teenager with autism was shot multiple times by police responding to a 911, the boys teen survive Walter Wallace Junior did not. He was mentally ill and in crisis in Pennsylvania last October when a family attorney says his brother called 9112 training and police who seemed Wallace was armed with a knife shot and killed him push for reform prompts can Christians to countries where these deadly encounters are far less common. How different is policing in America from Europe was like night and day. Lawrence Sherman is a professor of criminology at the University of Cambridge in England. If somebody doesn't drop a knife and officer tells them to. Even if they're not threatening somebody please can shoot and kill it would be murder in your are you saying the law in the US is on the police officer side and it's the reverse. In your I would say that the law in the United States goes to extraordinary lengths to justify lease preemptive use of shooting Sherman notes that while US police are quicker to use deadly force and kill far more people per officer than those in Europe.

More guns on US streets mean law enforcement bases more threats.

In fact, police in several European countries, including England, Ireland and Norway do not carry firearms while on regular patrol really helps to have a disarmed population can't blame the American police because they don't have one, but policing he explains, is also not as strictly regulated in the US. Look at Derek children. The officer who killed George Floyd in Minneapolis. He had more than a dozen misconduct complaints, and he was training other officers would not have a field training officer with a very bad disciplinary record in the English police system that's inconceivable how would you describe policing in America today and complete chaos.

How is it chaotic because we have 18,000 different police departments. We have 50 states and with 50 different minimum standards for training and recruitment Maria Haber filled is a professor of police science at John Jay College of criminal Justice in New York. She feels many police are willing but not ready to do their job because of insufficient training in the US the average police academy runs 17 weeks.

Where is in Europe there's Norway police University Finland and invest the same as national police forces into the what's the effective this lesser training we going to see people pushing back against the enforcement and the quantity of enforcement that there is saving public outrage followed the suffocation death of Daniel Rood at the hands of police in Rochester, New York. After family members say they dialed 911 to report he was suffering a psychotic episode according to a recent survey police in the US spend more than 20% of their time responding to people with mental illness Sweden facing similar problems developed a mental health ambulance. What happens when there's a call of police unit is dispatched and also your mental health ambulance is dispatched exactly Andrea's Carl Borg explains their service works, in part because health workers have access to medical records, police do not. If you would talk to them police department in the United States.

I think most of them would agree that they have to deal with these cases and these really try it doubtfully by saying health Professionals, not the police calls for reform in the US are growing louder, but in a country with roughly 18,000 police departments the hurdles to reform structural and systemic high podcast tree Barry mar all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout business podcast and each episode mean a weekly gas that can cover other quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist because well maybe you do to newest interior to sign trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to flasher us out getting the things that you just kind of well probably not able to do in daytime television so watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast on the losing a child in a fatal police encounter. Mona hardens pain is still very real and very wrong. She shares her thoughts with us this morning. I'm sorry. I'm scared I'm your brother. These are some of my son's last words before he was killed on May 10, 2019. My son dream was tortured to death by Louisiana state troopers and nine the Louisiana my son Ronnie was cleansed and held by white officers on his wrists and ankles while laying face down and moaning nine minutes as they walked in white is blood on their hands and faces.

One struggled to breathe, leading the meeting, then the officers brag to each other about what they when medical assistance finally got money was let in on responsive it is loaded into the ambulance to the Bayville without any administration of oxygen right after my son was killed by the cops. The cocaine Louisiana State police lied to me and tell me that he died in a car crash they had the body camera footage from the public for more than two years, I saw my son Ronnie murdered at the hands of those troopers is a way you look at the body camera videos and I wish I could say that these offices have been convicted of crimes they did that night, but they have not.

I was I could say that justice has been served for my run, but it has not know it has been held accountable for my child's death. We need these offices arrested for what they did that night.

We need to be indicted for this evening, and unbelievable act of violence. There is no accountability. That's like Linus continue.

How many black men, women and children will be killed by the police. We make about change. Many black men, women and children watch it sliding by white cops and Ronnie was a father, a brother and a friend to many, it was loved and taken to sin. Our family never ever be the same, never give up never give up this fight for his justice. Ronald Green's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Louisiana officers involved in this incident. Union parish Deputy Sheriff Christopher Hartman has denied wrongdoing, attorneys for others named in the suit did not comment the Louisiana State police deny withholding evidence from the public and state and federal investigations into the death of Ronald Green are ongoing thousands of homeless people can be found on the streets of San Francisco and many other American cities. Some of them grappling with mental health issues. John Blackstone looks in the pilot program aimed at helping both the homeless and the police. San Francisco's roughest neighborhoods can seem dominated by the homeless, disturbed and those openly using drugs anymore police on the street to change that. But San Francisco's Mayor of London breed is cutting the police budget. We got a look at things differently for challenges that people face are not what they used to be Anna police response doesn't solve all of these seem so now in San Francisco, many calls to 911 no longer bring harm police officers instead. Dispatcher said with the city calls Street crisis response team trained to deal with mental health issues. Stephanie cheerio behavioral therapist is on one of those teams experiencing a person is talking to themselves or yelling and it's scary.

Your call the police on 2019 San Francisco police answered more than 50,000 call related to mental health and are saying. I think throughout the nation. A lot of extra jobs and tasks of just been given to law enforcement because there's nobody else fire Capt. Simon is in charge of the crisis response teams whose members come from the city's health and fire departments. They do not carry guns.

People living in the streets often have a history of complex traumas and law enforcement somebody with a gun can be very triggering and potentially escalating. For someone like that so far this year nationwide, more than 50 people with mental illness have been shot and killed by police. One study concluded that almost 25% of fatal police encounters involved mental illness, not a crime. So our team here to be able to respond to the nonviolent mental health is critical to free actually public safety as well as a mental health expert like cheery each crisis response team paramedics like Richard Platt and Leslie Fong and one member like Sally is called a peer counselor because, well, they're done with everything you have a different license are very streets and the be limits to what we can do when it comes to our personal actions. Michael doesn't have somebody is able to use his weight.

You're pretty good right now was always quite like this recently. No actually was opposite. Earlier this year.

Jermaine Reeves was living on the streets of San Francisco's tenderloin district in desperation he sought help from one of the Street crisis teams. They found a place to live, and it was violence was the first people actually listen to. He says he would never go to the police for help like the police shows up right now you guys wouldn't think anything of it will start beating fast. I would wonder like whether whether they overhear for. I will start looking around to see if this other black people like you… Not a good situation that is for people like me with police reform now an issue across the country. Several cities are developing programs like the one in San Francisco, Mayor London breed. So what this program is doing is taking away some calls that used to go to the taking some duties away from the police. Is this defunding the police while I don't like to label that the issue here is we have to think about policing differently than we ever have before, especially in light of what we see, the data shows that all is to meet people where they are to develop rapport today to have a conversation to treat them like human beings. No matter what they're going through and to make sure that you build trust. Within seconds, and that can make all the difference. Some stories just don't get the attention they deserve, which is where our Steve Hartman comes in as we've seen this morning's lines. The actions of some officers front page father, but there are other Backpage stories stories. I personally told over the years about officers who go above and beyond and although these stories are far less touted they are equally reflective of the men and women who serve these of the officers who take time to play basketball with the neighbor's mow grass for senior citizens give rides to people in need either home from work or much further.

A couple years ago officer Jeff Turney responded to a call in Glendale, Arizona.

This 94-year-old man was about to drive himself 2000 miles to Florida attorney shut that down already ready then took a week of vacation to see he got there safely you got a ruddy then there's Brian Grigsby and Troy Dillard of Little Rock, Arkansas, who found an Alzheimer's patient out wandering white male.

He was pretty adamant he wasn't going home until he got those flowers. Flowers is what he wanted. He wanted flowers for his wife because tomorrow is Mother's Day. So instead of driving the man right home.

They took him to a shop and even helped we had to get those flowers we had to get up and have a choice.

I also met Pittsburgh detective Jack book came across these two brothers at a boxing book says they were being abused and neglected by their foster parents. They have had.

It is worse as any other candidates ever lived in the city of Pittsburgh living conditions was a nexus I had enough of it.

So this bachelor Right yeah good.

I cut my grass and by Denver police officers Monique Sadberry and Alecia Martinez were called to school one day one of the tougher calls for us. Teacher had called 911. Thank saying that he was being bullied and he wanted to end his life. Not only did they help Victor or Ron in that moment, they formed an everlasting bond often like a family like little brother. Is it helpful to you that they stayed in your life, and he wanted to talk to them. The would be there in this is what's possible when a police badge is worn over a loving heart. These are the results when officers choose to draw their most disarming weapon compassion is a number you may not have heard my want to count 26 police officers have been shot and killed so far this year and it's only June. Each leaves behind loved ones whose grief never ends.

Emilio BRS is among them. I was seven years old when my dad Florida police officer left me hours were shot and killed on November 6, 1986 my parents rights with regards say that such a young age, seeing the heartbreak of my mother was difficult. I grew up overnight and became the man of the house with a new mission to take care of my mom and my sister, my dad wanted to help people and losses like doing it was trying to catch a thief with that of obeying the law stood over him with a gun that put his hands up and said wait wait activities that I pulled the trigger and change our lives forever by taking my dots. The hardest part is knowing those were my dad's last words growing up without a father was hard, but I don't know any different. I've mentored other surviving children who never even met their parent, or too young to have memories of them, my sisters, one who was too young to have many memories of our dad how memories are to the stories, our family and that's friends share about what an incredible person he was. Every time an officer dies in the line of duty. I think about the young surviving kids whose lives are changing. Such a tragic way.

I'm a father now my middle daughter is about to turn seven. I can't help but think about the love my dad felt my sister and me in a moment I represent over 58,000 law enforcement survivors who have lost a family member or coworker in the line of duty. That's over 50,000 people loved one should have come home safe.

After doing their job. That's a people need to remember enforcement officer doing their job to serve others, and they want to come home safe with her spouse, children, parents, siblings, family and friends. Can you imagine leaving for your job every single day and knowing there is a chance you are turning your loved ones. Goodbye for the last time I wish I had a few extra minutes until my dad how much I love him and to give him one last hug over more than 40 years Bill Bratton has led police departments in Boston, New York and Los Angeles. Mark Whitaker speaks with a man. Some call the architect of modern policing in America versus returning to Times Square. Welcome sign for New York City and its former top cop Bill Bratton is simply about the cleanness of say that that that which is nice but not everything you see here is not so a lot of Bratton led police departments in Los Angeles, Austin and twice in New York and stopped to chat with all the estate was visible and one that has probably the most powerful of any individual government that cop on the street walking the beat just as he did more than 1/2 a century ago. Much is change but not everything. I would be a cop today, America is tougher than probably any other time going back to the early 70s the a feeling not appreciated. It is a frustrating time for them. So many of them are leaving the profession that's not all the troubles Bratton is one of the leading architects of modern policing with reforms and innovative approaches lower crime and he says bolster the bond between the public and the men and women serve and protect the changes in the profession over the years.

The reforms have been phenomenal. But it's as if 50 years with doing nothing that we just marking time. That's my frustration in his new book the profession Bratton fears. Much of what he helped create is crumbling and the national crises in 50 states, 3600 counties. God knows how many cities and towns have 18,000 police forces we have.

Unlike many other democracies. We have very few national guidelines. There were even fewer when Bratton was a kid in the white working-class Boston neighborhood of Dorchester nine years old. He was already dreaming of a life in law enforcement, lease, this is your place was checked out of the Boston Public Library every chance I got.

He joined the force in 1971 – 1190 says the problem then is still a problem. Now, lack of preparation by training, was 6 to 7 weeks before his gun in the blue uniform felt the street but the training now should really I think the expanders would you that this think of the power that were putting into the hands of young man or woman how to take life. Bratton quickly rose through the ranks, becoming Commissioner in 1993 when he embraced the concept of community police the American police working as partners with American citizens and the government will get the job done is 23 pieces for you to understand partnership work with the community to the problems of the community.

Big and small, and three.

What is the goal prevention deal with it in a way to solve the problem so it goes away. I Bratton I solemnly swear you later Mayor Rudy Giuliani lured him away to stem the crime wave sweeping New York very tough to work for Machiavellian respects, but whether you like him or not.

He did change the city for the better in many respects, in the sense that he made it safe. Bratton says broken windows policing cracking down on quality-of-life offenses and comps that computerized crime tracking system all played a part. The turnaround landed him on the cover of Time magazine's boss wasn't happy, and the person doing the story.

One of the photo and said we have the opportunity to just you like it has to bear, I thought about three seconds and said she would just make so basically gonna be my exit.

So I talked very bluntly to the citizens of this city need you back in those traits. In 2002 he was appointed chief of police in LA department play by racism and brutality. While there he met a black community organizer named Alice Harris known as Sweet Alice she really help me to understand some of the black issues in LA and she says Ray chief know I would like you so much sweet elsewise that you see us you really see us as the highest accolade of every seat so that's a great story but why do so many black Americans not feel seen does not. They really are not Bratton returned to New York in 2014. We will all work to identify why is it that so many in the city not feel good about this apartment that is done so much to make them safe. Six months after he was sworn in an officer put a fatal chokehold on Eric Garner, an unarmed black man selling loose cigarettes outside a Staten Island storefront. This is a memorial that's been put up, his soul rest in peace Garner saying I can't breathe. I can't breathe 11 times the idea of trying to take down this the tool of both of them were small and got got it with very very big and effectively uses that tactic ended up double tragedy.

Garner was selling loose cigarettes with pleasant legal. He was a big black man that didn't mean he deserved a judge avoided so often the struggles that particularly over minor events such as the sale of Lucy's nobody deserves to die police what happened to thousand times a year, along with the killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson Missouri Garner's death sparked nationwide protests fueling the black lives matter movement that was reignited again last year. The murder of George floor. I have a mantra cop scout police matter the individual action of a cop.

The collective action of the police matter so their chauvinists actions as an individual cop look at the significance of that action. He did so much damage the American please profession unrivaled image the profession around the world. Bratton supports many reforms that have been called force in children's murder, including mandatory police body cameras and limits on qualified immunity, which protects police from criminal charges if they use deadly force in the line of duty when he rejects radical reasons are so frustrated with the hashtag defined the unit refund the police what I'm hoping coming out of this bill in Congress joyfully bill what comes out is that it will effectively force government to spend resources on the essential medicine to fix this thing and police the essential medicine.

That's the history also tell us that every time we see one of these surges in violence. It sort of gives everybody an excuse to back off and to not engage with report. That's the learning process.

I hope that we have finally come to embrace that out of this terribly tragic year that we understand the importance of we can deal with race can deal with crime.

We can deal with the other issues that cause so much fear we know what to do about this. Ultimately that is the optimist in Bratton convinced the positive change remains possible so you are kid today like you were writing out we always happen in Dorchester thinking about a career in policing and what you can achieve. What would you tell them I still go into the business is a tough profession tougher than I think any time in my 50 year history with it, but it's still a profession. If you get it right, you can get so much right Bratton, who is married to Ricky Kleeman, a legal contributor to CBS News now works as a security consultant in the private sector is retired from the profession, at least for now. I was just 10 years younger to to get back in the game are so hungry like you like another whack was expression never say never. Japan is one of the safest countries in the world and its police seem to keep it that way, never firing a shot.

Lucy Kraft goes on patrol with the Tokyo police.

The essence of Japanese law enforcement is here at the cold on your police box. Besides more than 1000 police stations.

Japan operates 6000 called on an equal number of smaller rural post blanketing every corner of the country, close to half of the nation's cops are assigned to one officer Micah Suzuki said the cold on puts police at arms reach in a crisis. 911. Seems easy but sometimes victims are too scared to call from home, maybe they're not sure if the problem is really an emergency so they come down to the cummerbund combine operate like many police stations.

Responsibilities are vast, extending far beyond handing out traffic tickets and traditional law enforcement cops have evolved to become a kind of one-stop shopping for problems large and small.

Whether it's getting street directions, finding a hotel room wending carfare to cash-strapped computers patiently listening to marital status, but by far the most popular police service is writing what could be the world's biggest, most efficient, lost and found God's whole florets just for umbrellas last year, the Tokyo Police Department collected nearly 3 million items, including almost 1/4 of a million umbrellas in public transit, and parks, each carefully tagged and logged for easy retrieval. There five more floors here stuffed with everything from baby strollers to dentures, not to mention cold cash is Tokyo resident Jake Adelstein found after he absentmindedly left an envelope of cash at the ATM good Samaritan brought it to police, who returned it to Adelstein the next day. Police are very well-paid so they have an incentive problem that caskets part of getting along with community if someone brings something to police the catalog in a file in the set up headquarters and that thing is tracked until it's returned: cops go to extraordinary lengths to learn their beats required to regularly visit every business and household in their districts twice a year. The extensible purpose of this visit is handing out anti-crime flyers here chatting with the owners of a coffee shop about their security cameras with officer soda we can say what's on her mind. So the owner he's really like a neighbor instead of dialing emergency when we need help just call him visits like this while extremely time-consuming and somewhat intrusive Goldmine for Cox yielding tips about suspicious activity and building community contacts, police presence here is so low-key and ubiquitous American law enforcement experts have compared Japanese cops 10 mailman D.

The cops seem to be just about everywhere guarded festivals helping kids across the street gently and somewhat effectually street party stopping traffic for a black lives matter protest police departments create their own cuddly mascots to produce cartoon civics lessons for kids. One police force in western Japan boasts a squad of dancing officers all reinforcing the image of the casual, friendly, and ever helpful, instantly rated one of the most trusted institutions in Japan. Every officer carries a 38 caliber revolver, thanks to strict gun laws.

Firearms usually stay holstered lethal force officers trained intensively in self-defense skills for restraining offenders called tight budgets.

It part of arrest we heard about something called the art of arrest. When is that successful techniques for keeping yourselves and others saying I think is most the police to protect not just crime victims, but crime suspects as well. On this night. Police catch a lawbreaker in the act had often pursued furious sprinting get their man taxidriver making a legal term.

Later, the cops break up a brewing fight wears on a head out on patrol inebriated man mocks them. The cops remain poker-faced and don't drink too much. One said everyone is a fan. Critics say Japan has too many cops. Officers don't have enough to do Japanese citizens essentially police themselves servers like Jake Steen, a former crime reporter is religious nation but it is a superstitious nation and I really believe that people believe there's karmic payback for what you do good and bad and I think that's a powerful tool in making people behave in 2020. Good Samaritan handed in nearly million dollars to Tokyo police last year for the sixth year in a row. Japan had the lowest crime since World War II minting its reputation as heaven for Cox. He's a police chief who believes in the power of prayer, friendly, and tells us the parable officer Edgar Rodriguez was just beginning its 12 hour shift when the call came in today. I have follow-up with with the boy, how are you man. He's having a hard time and he is walking off a little runaway meeting a little reset of his compass that a deal this bump art, is go back to the car was a high level meeting. This Rodriguez is only a beat cop is also the police chief here in Mobile.

I met 1/2 now outside of Sioux City into town surrounded by corn and soybean fee pretty pastoral setting, to say the least. Being police officer is more of an extension of my ministry that I think yes that's exactly how I see it ministry in every sense of the word.

How are you where the boys okay.

Chief Rodriguez as long as we can feel good about the way that we live our lives in front of God. That's all that really matters is also pastor egg at mobiles New Hope evangelical church. I think being a pastor makes her better police officer. So as a pastor, my focus is serving people. If I can't love the community love the people. Then I will be able to serve him well as congregation includes his wife and kids will understand the risks, especially at a time and police officers often viewed with more skepticism and pride and pray for you, but pastor egg is reminder that it doesn't have to be that way. Is there a place for compassion and understanding.

In today's policing absolutely absolutely is not about taking to be put in jail every day.

It's about how we can help a person every day. Moving was honed only about 1800 people to gas stations. No stoplight. It's quaint. Yes, but hardly quite we haven't had a homicide thanked the Lord in our town in a long time and it's not Mayberry. Thank you. Yes, for any of you wondering if pastor egg has what it takes to be officer agree to begin footage should answer the he's a former Marine who came to this country from Mexico. The proud heritage that sometimes gets thrown in his face every now and then I forget that I'm different. My colors different than most my community.

Every now and then somebody will remind some kind way yes and and that's a kind way. But those are far and in between.

Got the chief's job about a year and 1/2 ago is been determined to change the image of law enforcement starting with what he wears for a small town. I just feel it's a little too tactical to military and we need to be a little softer really, what message does it says that that were applicable hi how are you today we went to visit 78-year-old Bonnie Holtz.

He was there to help catch the bad guys robbed were $1400 so the best thing that we can do. The best way to protect ourselves is to know what to do, but it was also there to offer near shoulder, and maybe a prayer Bonnie Lord give her strength give her strength and courage finally got a yes ma'am yes ma'am. I'm just around the corner so call me anytime. Okay, it's not all hugs and kisses the rest plenty hold them off to jail, but it's about a 30 minute drive to get there and uses that time to try to understand who is arrested. I want to know what what they're going through and that's usually my conversation start.

What made them get to the point where now they're in handcuffs and there in the back of my car in there going to jail somewhat dated, why, why did it right. What got them there. That's how I met Pastor at his by being arrested.

I didn't know he's a pastor till he told me once Agnes bubble boy found out that he was a pastor. She opened up his squad car became more of a rolling confessional, the creditors may then drive in silence I could have still done your job. Yes, I could, I don't think I would've felt very good about myself. Like if I just than that, knowing that I had an opportunity help somebody to encourage somebody.

It doesn't take much what we learned today that that David did just learn to wait Agnes now rarely misses his Sunday sermon. Have you been arrested since I have changed my life right there to be fair, small town policing does have a kind of built-in intimacy but for egg red brick as it is that intimacy that makes the twin callings of pastor and police officer to personal to ignore whether any loss causes you know know there can't be see that's that's something I can't think. I can't think that way I don't necessarily believe that there is a limit that once you you you know you failed 10 times and we should just forget about your always can fail. I think we should just keep on trying because that's what God did the message he hopes is shinier than his back buddy. You hug this year) are part of UK working hard by you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning. This is intelligence matters with former acting director of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put her mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation military situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters where ever you get your podcasts