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In our cover story, NPR's Allison Aubrey looks into how mRNA technology is being used beyond COVID vaccinations. Rita Braver sits down with late-night TV host Seth Meyers. Kelefa Sanneh talks with Malcolm Gladwell about his latest book, "The Bomber Mafia." Imtiaz Tyab interviews the producer and stars of the acclaimed British TV series, "It's a Sin," and Mark Whitaker looks at the issue of reparations to address the racial wealth gap. Jane Pauley hosts "CBS Sunday Morning."

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Seth Meyers on this serious business of being funny hasn't aged a day. All 40 years ago as AIDS began its deadly rampage. The response or lack of one was front page news that Hera is MTS tire will tell us is now the subject of a hit miniseries for doing evil. These cuts are infectious to protect me. You all. After Neil Patrick Harris started it's as soon John became an early supporter of the AIDS drama with thrown Savior. He just thought I loved all of us in getting texts from him and just keep face to face on request.

All the attention is about coming up on Sunday morning, Saturday is in conversation with best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell, Mark Whitaker looks into the case for reparations for the legacy of slavery.

A story from Steve Hartman and more on this Sunday morning June 20, 2021 and will be back in a moment. This past week, the pharmaceutical company Modano announced that the US government has purchased 200 million additional doses of its coven vaccine and is NPR's Allison Aubrey reports finding coven could be just the beginning January just one month after mood during his vaccine was authorized for emergency use. Mutations of the virus known as variance only spreads faster than the original virus. They may also be more deadly years about a more contagious stream began to grip the nation. To cope with 19th first identified in South Africa has now been found in the US and scientistic mode. Dharna immediately realized this could be a threat.

We didn't think we had time to wait. Dr. Steven Hoag is president of the company. We thought if we don't start now and by the time we get to the fall we will have an updated vaccine in case those variants really become a significant concern start reinfected people as millions of doses rolled off the manufacturing line at their facility here in Norwood, Massachusetts hello team got to work, retool the vaccine within a week designed a new vaccine design that vaccine really overnight and started manufacturing and have it and moved in clinical trials with it can take years to make a new vaccine so this was a breakthrough. Possible, but it has to do with our technology so we use something called messenger RNA or mRNA for short.

It's really just an instructional, like a software program for yourselves. It just sends instructions about what the virus looks like to your immune system just like a software program or a Word document, we can simply edit something change it and then manufactured very quickly. He makes it sound so easy, but it's taken more than a decade of research and many technological hurdles. Now the company has some big plans and we had credible year using messenger or notify the pandemic, but we think we're just starting in the infectious disease space and so is a large number of other vaccines will bring forth their research pipeline includes everything from an HIV vaccine heart disease treatments to vaccines for different kinds of cancer, including Lynn Thoma and melanoma Connie franchisee already participating in one clinical trial when were you diagnosed with melanoma. I was diagnosed in May 2020. So just about a year ago. She's a two-time cancer survivor and after surgery to remove the melanoma doctor had some troubling news.

He did indicate that they had found melanoma cells in my lymph nodes, which meant that I would need to have further treatment so you were at high risk of relapse. Yes, I was considered high risk for melanoma again. She started on a cancer fighting immunotherapy drug and she was offered the chance to get the experimental messenger RNA vaccine designed to prevent a relapse when you weigh the possible benefits from something like this. I just had to go for this deadly too soon to say I'm optimistic that the jury so Dr. Ryan Sullivan of Massachusetts General Hospital treat Connie. He says the idea is that the vaccine can help generate the right mix of cancer fighting immune cells. Best case scenarios that combination of enumerated vaccine plus a standard therapy is shown to reduce the risk of relapse. If we see that happen, it will change the way we treat patients in future it will take several years to determine this, but in the meantime, Modano CEO Stephan Bonsall thinks messenger RNA technology can revolutionize the shot millions of us already got each year let's talk about the flu vaccine. Everything is wrong about the very process of making it makes no sense. Currently, flu vaccines can take months to produce to make the shot actually inject flu virus into a decades-old approach and Bonsall says it the reason they are not always very effective. Very early on this which Ryan would be in the US next plan is to change this mode. Dharna aims to start a clinical trial later this year. Turns out, the boosters are needed. Modano wants to combine its coronavirus vaccines with the new flu shot so we just have a window you go to the heart of Xerox. He never went to bed with the combines with oxygen. She coven. I spent that his vision for the future. It's not clear how this will turn out what is clear is that no dharna from any start up to a household name. Over the course of one year is betting on the speed and versatility of mRNA technology. So basically you have developed a delivery system for all different medications or therapies through the promise of the technology. It really use the same system every time. Just like we updated our vaccine in January for the new variance of concerns or Scooby Doo. We can exit updated to go after all of the other viruses that were looking at just as quickly, and that really allows us to advance medicines across a wide range of diseases both in cancer and in fact, meanwhile, Connie franchisee says she's back to living up is the life. It seems like you have a lot I go there certain things I can't can't can't change my age can't change my DNA fact that I've had cancer, but I can change my attitude toward it, the opportunities that have been presented to me to do everything I can to avoid having a recurrence and participating in the mRNA research trial also makes her feel like she's giving back. I feel very fortunate. I feel very fortunate indeed to have this opportunity because you're helping humanity you're helping people download people you'll never meet exactly about fathers, but we think Steve Hartman story is just perfect for Father's Day judge for yourself for 14-year-old Caleb Pruitt of Jacksonville, Florida, who has Down syndrome exercising anything other than the stones was never a passion could barely cross-appeal couldn't ride a bike without help and saw the treadmill as little more than a caring is his mom so triathlon wasn't on your list of things for Caleb to do it was not on our list now at least not until Caleb about 21-year-old Chris Mitch, did you like it when you better.

Yeah, that. What did you like about him; super cool and you could see what last year Chris competed in the 140 mile swimming, biking and running race known as the first person without ever cross if there was a poster with Chris on it. It would be in Caleb's but what Chris did next was even more Herculean to this young family agrees with you became a mentor worked out with implanted just the fact that he was so warm and hiring help Caleb realize that these are things that I could do to keep him last weekend. Caleb finished his first triathlon is believed to be the youngest person with Down syndrome produce selected also received an invitation to compete for Special Olympics crap a lot same team. Chris is you want to be like Chris yeah you know what, but I think you are like Chris yeah I like the best compliment you've ever received. Yeah heroes come in many different shapes, sizes and abilities all have the same superpower, with the hopes of others on this Father's Day story from David Beck know about tough love and a man who found the tools for forgiveness. Did your dad ever tell you no. Not once. I wanted him to so badly and I felt like I was the first one to say I love you, that somehow maybe it would be worth less. Dad and I were to set off across the prairie Trent press says that his hardscrabble life growing up on a cattle ranch in South Dakota was made tougher because of his relationship with his father Leon for the rodeo champion and a Vietnam War veteran and one day you're hammering some cans because you take aluminum cans to make money right so you're hammering these cans and you window destroyed some bricks that are a part of the patio and next thing you know as the story goes, your dad punches you in the fix. Yes, only one time, but you never forgot never forgot what it do to you.

Well, maybe afraid of him that made me kind of question. My place with him and that I I was trying so hard to live up to my dad's expectations, and it made me feel like maybe it would never be possible that I could in 2000, his sister Lucy two years older died of a rare illness at the age of 25 after your sister's funeral you come up to your dad and he says what do you wear never to talk about that again and we didn't. He wasn't kidding. Fast-forward to 2014 Trent was living in New York and had gone nearly a decade estranged from his father when his mother asked him to come home and visit for Thanksgiving. Trent's dad was very sick when I visited him in the hospital.

The last time I saw him alive when his cancer had flared up. I leaned in to give him a hug on his hospital bed and he gripped me so tight I mean I could feel his hands like digging into the back of my shirt and I thought maybe that would be the moment. Finally, when my father said I love you and he didn't so the last words my father said to me were Drive safe. Okay in life. Trent was sure that he had very little in common with his dead but that all came crashing down when I saw him lying in his casket.

I looked at his hands. I thought oh my God I have the same hands is my dad and my mom always said that your father could build anything and it was that moment when I thought well he could build anything with his hands. Maybe I can to have his calipers in his workshop is the only thing his father left his tool box. Trent spent the year obsessed and teaching himself how to shape, refine, and finish of all things new. This is not just any. This is made by the buyers around the world wanting them to build more at a price point of $100,000 so it was almost like that say I'm going to give you just enough to get you on the road and you gotta figure the rest out yourself is this a business or is it a hobby, well, I'd say it's both. But it has become a business I've sold to boats.

I have 1/3 boat on commission. Now, and the great part about it is that it still feels like a hobby, it still feels like a passion project level. By day the 44-year-old is CEO of winery on the North Fork of Long Island and in April his memoir little and often was released. It's about his journey growing up, the son of a cowboy in South Dakota and how building the canoe from scratch led to some self-discovery. I realize now that I think maybe he knew that when he was about to die because when that moment came to say goodbye. He didn't hold back a single ounce of love, whether that was just saying no drive safe or if that was saying here take my tools and make something of yourself that was all he could give finish this line for me. I wish I would've told him I wish I would've told him that I love them and I wish I would've thanked him for all the lessons that he taught me growing up little and often the title of your book means what well. It means that extraordinary things can happen if we just focus on doing little ordinary tasks every day and building this canoe with my dad's tools kind of beat that lesson into me where it was like no no no this is the only way it's going to happen. You can't do this any other way dad's way is a little and often way thinking about the title of the book. What I'm thinking is to love on this Father's Day little and often is good enough that sure is.

Gladwell is a man of many talents, writer, podcast and all around big thinker, but for our caliper Saturday. Gladwell is a colleague and they run into the most interesting people I think maybe the last time I saw you. We are both on the set of the Jim Gaffigan show page and ask your it's been five years since Malcolm Gladwell and I have been in the same room reading Jim what you know how to play ourselves writers in the scene on that show, but that's just his day job titles, magazine writer, best-selling author, media mobile one is most impressive to me from being honest hit country music song writer with country music so called 10,000 hours by Dan Shea featuring Justin Bieber went to number one on the country chart. Okay, technically, Gladwell didn't write but the song was inspired by his observation in his third book outliers that it takes 10,000 hours to master something difficult. There is this notion.

We have you conversed out of the gate and be fantastic at something complicated at a very young age is just not true. What was it like for you to watch this concept of 10,000 hours break free from the chains of this best-selling book is written and just be everywhere. It's always fun to see ideas out in the world, even if they're not in the form that you would necessarily dead but that's the goal right focus. You want your book to be talked about is talked about in best-selling books have made Gladwell in industry and in international phenomenon who can make up to 1/4 of $1 million for giving a speech well I have said I would rather be interesting then correct.

I think that's right. Judgments about correctness are made after the fact so a writer who is concerned with always being right would never write so I think about his job is to be interesting. That is to say to raise questions that need raising to give people the tools to think through difficult subjects. He also thinks through some of those difficult and not so difficult subjects on his top rated podcast revisionist history. This episode is a continuation of my investigation into the hoarding habits of art museums, which is beginning its sixth season this week. Revisionist history treats ideas of things that are worthy of our time, our efforts are consideration good ideas to me are like beloved friends you want to hang out with you on conversations with anyone argue with him for walks with them. I think we need more of that in the world. Now he's rethinking the audiobook the audiobook historically was an afterthought right you just read your book into a microphone, but I thought was that seems crazy. His latest bomber Mafia is produced by his own audio production company Pushkin industries so much more possibility audio that you sound effects. That's have musical scoring was making an experience. Chapter 8 the first super fortress which Tokyo just after midnight dropping flares to mark the target area. The bomber Mafia explores the firebombing of Tokyo which led to the end of World War II and went to the museum that commemorates the night of March 9, 1945 when the U.S. Air Force may pond Tokyo burned 16 mi.² took you down in a matter of hours. I was just so moved by this museum that I wanted to know since come to the point where they dropped tons and tons of napalm and earn tens of thousands people live. He learned about an effort beginning in 1930 to prevent wartime mass killings and destruction stories about this group of people who think they can win that war. They can use technology for the first time in history to drop a bomb with precision. It could be a little more surgical with more precise yes exactly the bomber Mafia were just interested in being better farmers there interested in being better people because they said look, if I can drop bombs with unerring accuracy. I will have to bomb civilians. That was their dream.

The military spent billions in today's dollars building a precision bombing machine all are going is only one problem with this device right to work. The Air Force gave up on precision bombing in favor of brute force, so there is this idea that war can be more humane. This idea fails Air Force besides the basically just set Japan on fire instead. What's the moral of this story. I don't think that this book is about deciding who was right. I want people to appreciate the impossibility of the choice why now well because were pretty quick off the mark. These days to judge others whose situations we don't entirely understand. I thought to be really useful to force people not to do that force people not to make quick judgments that may surprise anyone who remembers his 2005 bestseller blink the power of thinking without thinking. Is it wrong of me to perceive in this kind of an anti-blank approach, the guy who wrote the power of thinking without thinking. Blink was a book that was intended to showcase the power of snap judgments for both good and ill. Right click argue there are certain times and places where your snap judgments useful, but it's probably pretty short list. What they didn't understand was that the very thing that was the source of his apparent strength was also the source of his greatest weakness. He says he's comfortable with what he calls thinking in public. There's a group of people now who I think understand what I'm doing, who are my audience. They like the experience of thinking along with me in public. You cancel proof know I'm not immune from people being angry with things I say are right and wanting me to go away. But that's the truth for Malcolm Gladwell has gone from magazines to books to podcast for him.

The best way to stay interesting is to stay a moving target. You still think of yourself as someone who wants to sort of shift phases. Every decade or so. What I'm running out of shifts. I'm not sure you are running out of all do this for a while but I do love the feeling you know the that feeling of reinvention is a very important one. That idea that your waking up to do something that's new. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA.

Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put our mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation motor situations not being matched up with follow.

Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts was 40 years ago this month that the CDC issued its first report about five young gay man suffering from a disease that would come to be known as AIDS miniseries looks back at those turbulent early years of the epidemic MTS tie have offers us a closer look at. It's a sin I don't suppose this ago with perhaps a boyfriend but would there be. You don't have to worry about me.

I'm not remotely interested for American Dr. Neil Patrick Harris. All it took was an email from Welsh screenwriter Russell T Davies to say he was interested in a rolling Davies's new series I am entranced by him. He has an uncanny ability to create characters that you want to know more about immediately.

You want to keep talking with him for hours that you only want a road trip with Russell T Davies. He's kind of miraculous errors in US on HBO. Matt anyway, USA Today called it easily the best series of 2021 so far, but some of the British TV channel 7 first pitch the idea words convince a series about the early days of the UK's AIDS crisis could find an audience as appropriate with the trauma. That's a tough sell. Go watch Detective drama as the shows writer and producer Davies didn't only want to explore the impact of a once mysterious and deadly disease had on a generation of gay men but also the shame that surrounded it and when you realize this was a story you need to tell well I was 18 and 1981. Just like those characters away the stories being ticking away for six decades and Cygnus experiences based loosely on the people in his own Davies imagined group of gay men in their place and spread living carefree days and nights in London as the epidemic start spreading across the world in 1981, you know, we know about HIV-AIDS today. Forget fear rampant in those days reminds us people simply had no idea because it sounds so incredibly disease that affects only gay men having sex something for you HIV and AIDS rarely makes the headlines today, which may explain why it's his sin has sparked conversations across Britain and beyond, like never before expressed. I was not expecting that.

But the big shock to me with the people with them at the time.

No idea. The top scale with us for this malicious is to see people being shocked was shopping itself. Talk to people who said there take away from its ascent was that they knew nothing about this at all and it is encourage them to learn more about it though these concerts are infectious to protect me. You all. It's his sin also made an impact with audiences in another entirely unexpected way. Shortly after it first aired HIV testing sort across the UK, they save testing a mass of mice.

One of the biggest bands and most vocal supporters of the series is legendary musician and activist Elton John. He just thought I loved it.

All of a sudden I'm getting texts from him is try to face time doing interviews for the show and just keep face time FaceTime her? What do I faced weird errors came out as gay. In 2006 acts alongside a largely LGBT Q cast all the characters are portrayed by gay actors important to very important to me right now.

Life will always right now, 20, 21 51 of authenticity disagreed with me which I say yes this cost the cost of them. To be honest and real. You already 10 steps closer to one of the boys decided peaceful inside and out and yet I was psychopathic. Still, the emotional glue that holds the friendships of the gate leads together is a straight character called Jill, portrayed by London born actor with your West and kind. I drive.

Depiction of. Such an amazing time is one of just a fluidity in hiring openness and we wanted to shyly lie to me to just shine a light on these amazing lines that bonsai right way to see what stuff is pretty safety series sees Jill Moore from carefree best friend to caregiver a formidable ally. I think she stages with her friends when she gets very annoyed and she wants them to grow up and be small because their boys dying on sex for those familiar with Russell T Davies's work.

It's his sin may seem like a logical step. Many programs he is known as the creator of the original queers spoke series offers the name of Bob moms mom Phyllis and also for the revival of the legendary Dr. science fiction show, so the things that I love lost my life right well well Russell T Davies if you to sin has accomplished anything. It's to shine a light on a dark chapter that's been feeding from memory to get the voice back to those lost far too early.

One of the most beautiful reactions to his multi family to come forward relaxing that Paul say. My uncle died of cancer in 1985 that was an age that I'm a proud it's been the most moving thing White House ceremony June became our newest June 19, 1865 was the day enslaved people in Texas were the last to learn. They been freed by Pres. Lincoln thought it was the right time to explore the growing debate over reparations. Here's Mark Whitaker, the Starkville plantation was once one of the largest plantations in North Carolina, 30,000 acres with more than 900 enslaved people working the land when you come to a place like this and you know that you have your own family your own ancestors lived under these conditions. What you think you're ever prepared for it fully walking into the slave quarters can be an emotional experience didn't see that coming. Even for those all-too-familiar with history extraordinary kind of daily abuse. Not having control of your life, not to control and educate and nurture your children can imagine what that was like the people who initially were owned by the Richard and hand family. Kirsten Mullen is a folklorist and arts consult her husband, William Garrity is an economics professor at Duke University, they say, when Pres. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, ending slavery, those newly freed were left with nothing.

The former slaveholders were back in control of the properties that they previously availed and that meant better.

The location like Starkville.

The land was not distributed to the folks who had worked her the federal government famously promised those formerly enslaved 40 acres and a mule that promise was broken, as were many more to come. Mullen and Garrity have become leading voices for the argument that to this day. This country owes a debt to black American reparation. We would argue that it 40 acre land grants have been given. We wouldn't need to have a conversation today about reparations for black American descendents of US labor. A lot of people when they hear the debate about reparations.

They think this was a long time ago. What relation doesn't have not only to my life, but to today's economy slavery. In some ways is the first affirmative-action program for white people free labor about it is whites acquired wells. Blacks were repeatedly shut out largely denied land by the Homestead act of 1862, which gave settlers territory. Out West, then terrorized by Jim Crow later discriminated against when it came to the G.I. bill after World War II, or Social Security benefits and by redlining and other practices which prevented homeownership archivist for reparations is anchored on the cumulative impact of racial injustice in their manifesto.

The number of atrocities that continued to the present moment, including mass incarceration, including police executions of unarmed blocks, including ongoing discrimination in employment, credit and housing markets exactly how dramatic is the racial's pretty dramatic mark. The most recent data we have 2019 shows that Blacks have about $0.12 in wealth for every one dollar held by white label. Charlotte is a senior advisor at the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis where he studies inequality. The median white household has $184,000 and well while the median black household is less then 23,000 wealth acquisition is cumulative happens over generations.

So explain how that is different in black America versus what wealth begets. Well, that's the most mental principle here in order to have wealth, you have to either get it from your government or from your family, or from both, and the difference is this our government over the course of several centuries was very active in determining who gets to build welcome you to start black Americans, particularly those who have ancestors who were enslaved in the United States constitute about 12% of the nation's population but possess less than 2% of the nation's wealth. This leads us into what we think is the appropriate target for a reparations project which is to bring the black share of wealth into consistency with the black share of the population and we estimate that this would require an expenditure somewhere so of $11-$12 trillion. That's more than twice the entire current federal budget and Garrity estimates it would come to just under $300,000 paid to every eligible black person in the country. It's a big big price tag and pulling this year shows almost 2/3 of Americans aren't buying one of the great accomplishments of the civil rights movement was to get the government to stop picking winners and losers based on race reparations would be a step back in that direction. It would be a step backwards. Jason Riley is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He looks back to the anti-poverty programs more than 50 years ago, under Pres. Lyndon Johnson. We tried this before the great Society if simply redistributing wealth addressed inequality or trust property we saw the last three decades the bill has been introduced in Congress every year to form a commission to study reparation.

This is the first year it could be headed for a full house so it has not attracted support from Republic. I don't reparations for something that happened years ago currently live in a response is a good idea. Sen. Cory Booker is the sponsor of the Senate version of the reparation study all your calling for is a commission. Why can't you even get that nothing that is worthwhile is easy. In the meantime, Sen. Booker is pushing a plan designed to narrow the wealth gap across all races for future generations. So called baby bar. Here's how it would work so you're born in America, the richest nation on the world thousand dollars interest-bearing account and then every year based upon the wealth of their family to get money deposited the lowest income kids thousand dollars.

Compounding wealthiest children of nothing so what economists say how much of an impact over what period of time. Kids are 18. The lowest income kids will have about $50,000 to invest in wealth building thing, say that you will literally for that generation of children closer racial wealth. We do ourselves no favors by pretending. None of this ever happened. Pres. Biden has indicated his support for reparations commission. But meanwhile, his administration is working on several tracts announcing programs aimed specifically at black Americans including black farmers and business owners but also antipoverty programs that are race neutral. Pres. Biden went further than any president has ever gone in talking about the racial wealth gap and its historical roots, but he didn't mention the word reparations by not by think the president has said since day one, that one of the things that he wanted to do as a priority was to tackle systemic racism and barriers and address the wealth gap and were doing it. Cedric Richmond is a senior advisor to the president. How long will it take for the proposal that you're talking about the actually have the effect of allowing black families to pass on wealth to their children and grandchildren. Why think the first thing you have to do is decrease poverty right now.

Continue to invest in education prevent discrimination in homeownership and access to capital and we think that that is the first meaningful step so that this generation will have the wealth to pass down to the next generation.

Or maybe the solution to the racial wealth gap is all of the above Ray Bishara of the St. Louis Fed.

It's what you do. Looking back, what you do ongoing right now and then how do you look forward you have to really be working at all three of those areas.

If you want to make a meaningful dent in the racial wealth so paying off the historical debt doesn't necessarily in and of itself, guarantee, closing the gap. Meanwhile, closing the gap would necessarily mean resolving the debt. This is a problem that has accumulated for centuries.

You can't just solve the problem with just one payment as robust as that might be. There's the financial reckoning but also a moral reckoning color reparations are not Sen. Cory Booker believes it's more than a matter of dollars and cents. We are a nation that is still suffering self-inflicted wounds because we have not dealt without original sin of slavery and how it still affects us. Today it is all of our self interest to get at this. Seth Myers has had a uniquely tough year in his case, telling jokes from home with no audience to laugh along, but our reader braver found him on the road back these days when Myers works with his writing team. I feel like a thousand times and most of them are on zoom keys back in the studio you are is back. You guys beautiful out in the CDC just said rats don't have to wear masks as the audience and live band. Of course choices on the shows still feeling grateful. It is very empty. I will say that, but it is also my heart is full empty studio full heart. After all, when we spoke to him last summer he was hosting late-night from his house in Connecticut. Welcome back to the attic crawlspace everybody sound makeup young and all. Could you tell me why you always have a copy of the birds by undersigned very hard to find attic space in the northeastern states. I try just speaking of selling.

Also, how about kids wake's family has long been part of the show amazing pictures here, starting with when your wife came on. They shall bring the dog yeah Vegas worked at a very handsome when Josh and I were little. What would you call us when it was time for us to take a bath dirt ball one ball to the kind of guy visitor to try out what you want to sit here get the full but I now know not until the Smithsonian right well Seth you have anything that you're promoting that we are to be talking about.

I brought a clip. In contrast to some other talkshow host Myers is sunny personality is legendary variety called hanks of talkshow hosts, which is pretty nice and we do have a secret dockside. I do not have secret this is yeah along. I want to hear something that you will believe this either side of me is even nicer than in fact, it is. I read a story saying that BC stopped paying some of your people that work on your shelf for a while that you stepped up your own pocket during shutdown. Yeah, that's a personal thing between me, I'll just say is really nice, but Myers is not always nice political better by implying he has a nicer house than Osama bin Laden's favorite target years.

He only has two motions boredom and rages either staring off into the distance, while someone talks about complex policy details or hissing at reporters like a snake's nest was just disturbed.

I think it's safe to say you are not a fan boy. I think that is probably the most accurate way. I don't have any of his merge got one piece of marriage and after all this time. Ministration Joe Biden as an idea is funny. I feel very deeply for the people. The major has spent but it is very in line with Joe Biden that he brought a dog into the White House that clearly is not meant to be there president I met in the Oval Office today with the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus to discuss diversifying administration said by nest. Perfect is actually no great Hawaiian guy.

I would love to hire Myers started doing comedy in high school in new Hampshire Northwestern University in Prague, Amsterdam, and Chicago was invited to join the Nightline in 2001 played characters like Michael Kane good Michael. I think I did Michael Paul's. But Myers, who would eventually become the writer and SNL believed his fellow cast members were better performers than he was. So would you like to drink scotch on the rocks with a splash water like 60 sleeping pills longer. I did the show. The last spot I saw her I thought of the best person for this sketch would be set. Myers so that's why I was happy to be we can Myers romantic California this week married is 93-year-old girlfriend no.

Do one woman for the rest of your life be at the weekend update desk for years. This week children more than 1700 schools in North America sang the song I want to play the same time while simultaneously in China over a billion kids were doing math 13 years at S&L's pal Jimmy Fallon was leaving late-night host the Tonight Show. Myers got a call from Michael's executive producer of both Saturday Night Live and late-night.

It was another really weird cryptic call where he said no. I think you'd be good at it like no previous conversation and he asked me if I was I thought about it for a bit and it just made sense what scary for you know know that the whole show depended on you. Yeah, very much so. I remember being so in my head and doing a monologue and not actually hearing myself tell the joke is much as thinking and now I am telling a joke and so it is nice to be looser with it now and reflect back and realize that progress has been made. This nice guy is willing to share the spotlight on, especially with diverse writers and show and tell straight white male yeah court in Michigan ruled yesterday that giving the middle finger to his officer is an active free-speech people's company is not just about the material it's about the delivery system and if you have a lot of different kinds of voices you can do a lot of different kinds of jokes. BC is just extending Seth Myers's contract till 2025.

Was this pre-election, so we'll have plenty of time I do is photo collection making feel good having walked by this thing.

Yes, it's mostly I feel good to think I have this show and I get to do more of them. It makes me happy to think will keep taking pictures and ultimately we will ask the network for a longer shelf body fly this morning reminds us that there is more than one recipe for success. When I was in grammar school. My afterschool TV watching consisted of two superheroes, Julia Child and the galloping gourmet Graham Kerr way. One way Julie would bring classic French dishes like coq au vin encapsulate a life while Mr. Kerr was the ultimate fancy 70s backflip was within every shell plucking a lovely lady from his live audience to sit two different approaches, but they both helped shape the dinner tables of America for decades. Juliann Graham had a pretty uninterrupted run is the king and queen of cuisine as we knew it. Yes, there were other entrance here and there, but no one really made a dent into the early 90s someone had an idea to launch an entire network based on cooking every successful venture breeds competition and creative mind stirrup alternatives to the norm. My 25-year-old daughter Sylvia and I have a podcast called always hungry. We talk about our lives as pertains to food and lifestyle just to be clear so he did not follow her dad into the professional kitchen.

She's a successful broadcast journalist in Los Angeles and her cooking skills well let's just say they're deftly not her strongest during a recent episode. Sylvia was talking about how she and a lot of regeneration or getting your ideas to cook at home. I will say I was little dumbfounded that she wasn't just tapping into her dad's cookbooks or googling a video or two of my note she had another resource enter tick-tock like I like.

I started to take notice when the now famous pasta dish with cherry tomatoes and feta cheese broke the Internet with the force of the Kardashian Sue and Sophie wanted a penny all about the recipe she went right to her source. Jeremy Scheck better known by his 2 million followers as Scheck eats ice turbines using good extra virgin olive oil with fresh basil, garlic cloves, and eventually play not only doesn't look good. This current student at Cornell University knows what he's talking about and it all happens in less than 90 seconds. The game is changing and it's making every generation better at ourselves today.

Tick-tock is the trend and who knows what's next. Thankfully, technology allows us to recall the things that make us feel best. So from my kitchen to yours is only one thing left to say take it away Julia.

This is due to child 50 want to take a moment to remember a beloved friend and colleague long time Sunday morning. Producer Judy whole walk down the halls and graced our lives and brought you story after memorable story passed away early Thursday. Judy did it all and saw all your cell consumed with all the work you have to do our stories and her stories about her stories were beloved as was her uncle, Homer's eggnog, which you share with us each Christmas she was one-of-a-kind.

Judy's husband, Sam Surratt, who also worked at CBS News died several years ago, our thoughts are with her stepsons, Ben and Dan Surratt along with her grandchildren. Thank you, Judy will treasure your memory. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning progress. Crazy to its final season is a point is we need people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream exclusively on