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Brian would kill me thank you much losing everybody as the right to me Joe 1-866-408-7669 if I will follow in everything, and after I was at Gaston in Ukraine by the latest on the fight as they continue to hold out and keep his coast-to-coast is being surrounded by the bomb Ukrainians. I'm not that worried about it as normally I would've been two weeks ago when you see the lack of gumption to drive the Russians have, I might think I'm not too sure their poison the ticket city, especially in the north with fighting forces and as strong coming up in about a half-hour.

Tim Tebo would be right now in studio, best-selling author William Barr you know him as Atty. Gen. Atty. Gen. under Pres. Trump, who also served under Bush 41's new book is is fascinating is goal one damn thing after another. Mr. Atty. Gen., welcome to the studio. Thanks much for joining me.

Thank you, Brian. It's great to be with.

First off, we seem heard much of you since Taylor ended with the trouble administration and posttraumatic stress. Did you know I guess you had to know and after seeing the first year and 1/2 of Pres. Trump's term that you walk into a firestorm.

Did you know I was little and when you think what was it like I knew it was far as you say, a firestorm.

I also thought we were potentially headed toward a constitutional crisis with the way the Russian gate narrative right was being handled.

Michael will be closer to you might be a little bit easier when you realize because a lot of people in the right to trump supporters couldn't figure out what really was the deal with the Russia situation, the mother goes underground. We hear rumors about subpoenas and grades and we see this we know quite what was going on when you realize that this was a hoax wasn't until I got into the government and could get all the information that I became convinced that it was that way but I was skeptical at about it from the beginning. It just didn't fit you.

There's no reason why Putin and the Russian intelligence services would've colluded with anyone in the United States if they wanted to do something and hack into something and dump some documents they would do it.

They don't need to coordinate that with anybody would be very risky for them to do that so I never really fit together with me and the more I found out about it the more skeptical I became. From what I've read the book you might take away is you like a true conservative do it matters more to you is the country and what worries you most of all is the progressive line of thought. It doesn't seem like a Democrat Bill Clinton was centerleft.

That's cool. Run against issues right. What's different now that motivated you in your 70s to get back into government an extremely difficult time. Yeah, I think that there there's been a transformational change in the Democratic Party under Obama where it lurched very sharply to the left as I say in the book, then this is no longer family feud between within the family. I think that the progressive left has left the family. They are not part of the liberal democratic tradition of the United States there trying to tear down our institutions there no longer for free speech and I think it's a mortal danger to the Republic.

This progressive agenda and I supported trump once he got the nomination, and I thought it was important to stop their momentum, which he did so you get a way that other Republican candidates wouldn't have see that's an interesting question in a way, yes.

You know, maybe someone else could've won the election but he had some traits that I thought fit the times and in one of them was the ability to fight back against the establishment against the mainstream media not be cowed by them. Keep on going and he could take a punch he could take a punch like no one I've ever seen and keep going and those that were the traits that were needed and he has taught the Republican Party something he's taught the Republican Party had a fight. I think that's a fair fair given credit for that and I think that that's improves the party going forward. A lot of positive things about the present you willing to accept the fact is atypical for a politician he never saw anyone quite like them. You mentioned you can take a punch.

He also clarity of views. Yes, so especially the border things like the border things about America first. That wasn't just a line in a campaign that some speechwriter put in because it was cold, tested, or focus group tested right are being he had. I confirmed: redmeat issues there were certain issues with him where he took a strong common sense position. He was right about it and nothing to get them off and I admire that about why the drug war. The cartels in Mexico. The immigration issues big tech censorship. These were his issues that he was very fixed on and he was unshakable on them and he had the energy to push them through what I say is his impulsiveness had some downside to it but also an upside. One of his upside was it gave dynamism to the administration and push things along.

I do spend the loyalty generated from his base I think is bad. I think that what happened in 2016 is that a lot of ordinary middle-class working class Americans were just fed up with the, the smugness of the elites and the excesses of the liberals are the progressives they were mad and they wanted to push back and they felt though the progressives are taking a risk wrecking ball to the country and they wanted their own wrecking ball and they like the fact he was so plainspoken and got in their face, and he was combative and that helped up and he was sort of speaking for them and that's where I think that loyalty came from. I think that in.

That's why, and in many cases it still there and he still holds highest amongst Republicans. You said in 2016. You will crawl across class to vote yes just on one issue alone and that was the courts the appointments and Supreme Court to in the vacant judgeships right and he delivered on that as he delivered a lot of what he promised and are just just the courts. In my mind justified supporting him.

I never I thought I would start the never Trumper's euro hundred and 80° will so how will you think about this record justice pick now I think they're good all over the Longhorn hall there going to be good justices, all of you are the president has this idea that if you pick somebody have to vote the way fixed. From then on in perpetuity is not the way it works without guidance Domine I don't know much about her but I think she's going to be probably more left than briar once more to the left and Stephen Waybright was treated at the end, yet mean it was pretty it was pretty harsh.

I think you probably would like to stay another year, they basically retired while you Johnson once negotiated someone off the Supreme Court by offering to make his son, the Atty. Gen., so right. Sometimes these games are played. Want to hear a couple things were in the middle of this Russia Ukraine bore here. You saw a lot of the foundation. The Russian hoax really laid the foundation for something like this to happen we could not make any progress in directly deal with Russia because for two years. Vladimir Putin was looked at as enemy number one, of America, and a close confidant, a present from which we now know is not true in what way did that play into Orsino because I think was very clear during our administration during Pres. trumps administration at the main enemy was China over the long term and that Boudin had made it very clear what his redlines were and what should've happened was an effort to reach some kind a modus vivendi with the Russians diplomacy to try to figure out what the framework is for us, coexisting with the Russians in Europe going forward that maybe there was a solution. Maybe there wasn't but but trumps hands were tied by Russia gate if even met with behind closed doors or if we tried to negotiate with the Russians you know the whole Russia gate thing would've been used against them. Can you imagine if it was during your term Afghan it we left Afghanistan like this and during your term.

Russia invaded Ukraine right to biggest disasters present trump does know what he's doing, and then his lab. He promised to let me put in a backdoor room.

He could have been a backdoor deal.

He could have Ukraine right now you one of the things I point out my book is the media has been the mainstream media's been biased for a long time and I reminded people how they brought down H. W.

Bush, 19 months before the his reelection in 1992.

He was 89% popularity and I use the phony rack gate scandal in a number of other things to bring them down. Even though we had economic growth for those 19 months and remind people that things are much worse today and that was one of the things that I saw right away when I went back into government 28 years later, the press had become even more partisan and more rapid. Generally speaking, is it tell me if you think this is an honest assessment of why gas prices are so high, here's Pres. Biden, who even over the middle of an oil gas crunch and an energy crisis went to Texas were so much energy, oil and gas. The industry thrives and decide talk about burn pits, but here it was easy after this one question really is not great, but you can hear cut nine so the gas prices have gone up almost 100% since you guys left office and he says his rush is responsible for the gas prices a subtle welling up troops a year ago. Is that true nor obviously not. You can use Russia as the excuse but he is basically destroyed America's energy independence. He doesn't realize yet the fact that the United States is floating in energy and that is a tremendous benefit to the United States that allows us going forward to a restore American manufacturing low cost manufacturing and it and brings our our our cost of production way down. It's good for the middle class and working class to have cheaper energy and yet he's ruined that by essentially putting the kibosh on our end energy applied for this in the best terms. I understand is that there is now a push with Janet Young leading to not provide financing for any oil and gas project in America is $244 billion in in liquid natural gas stalled right now because he can't get financing to drill into Frank Wright and Janet Yellen is threatening these institutions that want to yell did want to finance these oil and gas companies to mind or drill for gas and oil.

How even though it means profits for mutual funds big and small, and for these companies. How dare you do that in a free market economy. That's right. And all the regulation is skewed against exploiting our natural resources, making us more dependent on other countries for energy one would've thought we learned during Cove Ed had dependence on foreign countries is a dangerous thing. There's nothing more important for our national security than energy independence and our our economy moving forward and in the price of heating homes and so forth and allowed Mr. Asia is allowed to to tell companies do not invest due to financial institutions do not provide financing for X, Y, and Z company to refer to refined to drill to explore while they can game the rules and the regulations and the oversight to create such uncertainty in the regulatory regime that you can you cannot make investments, that's the problem that I and and that the Obama ministration at the same from they don't understand that people have to have predictability right regulatory regime to make these huge investments.

Same with R&D when it comes to defense, yet he had a budget together of the Atty. Gen. Stay with me one more segment because his book is out, it sets number one. One damn thing after another memoirs of an Atty. Gen. of the bar here dome of use in the brain to meet you go right back Fox News, not just network Janet Steen Fox News senior meteorologist. Be sure to subscribe to the Janet podcast@foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your podcast and don't forget to spread the sunshine talk show that's real.

This is Brian kill me show angry and frustrated right now is likely to double down try to grind down the Ukrainian military with no regard for civilian casualties. That was Bill Burns testifying yesterday CIA director and so far there's pretty clear they want to quickly get in within two days. Decapitate keep the capital and basically take the government hostage put his own one in William Barr my guest right now.

Not only is this book about one damn thing after another out. He also was a conservative thinker understands the political landscape, not just a great legal mind. I miss Atty. Gen. what you think Putin does now from how and from what we've seen so far. I think Werner Burns was right.

I think he bit off more than he can chew and there's no exit ramp for him and he's going to do I think is just double down and and grind this out to try to claim military victory, but that is going to be stuck with guerrilla warfare continued casualties you work will Bush 41, when the wall comes down and we have a post-Cold War and it's part of my cowboy Gorbachev is Boris Yeltsin there and from what you saw then as we tried to help them become a capitalist country, I thought, and end up being a lot of corruption oligarchs and and and not being the people never felt that that capitalistic thing that we we maybe take for granted. Having said that, we have a Putin problem would leave a Russia problem. I think we have both in that Putin represents a certain strand of Russian thinking and Russia's cultural history, which is a conceive of themselves as a great power there generally very paranoid about people in and coming from the East or the West and they were humiliated by the end of the Cold War and so he is interested in building up Russia more and I think that's why he has broad support in Russia but I think that's can of evaporated because I think they have had the Russian people have had enough of the taste of sort of Western style of life that they're not, like see when they're being strangled economically. This makes situation he says is indicative of what the fact that we can get 29 outdated to add 1980s makes into the Ukrainian the country of Ukraine were struggling to his indicate of what indicative of what I think was a major mistake by by Biden not to put those plane and other planes and other hardware in earlier we knew what was he knew what was coming. He knew that he was facing a potential invasion of Ukraine but everybody right and yet the only way to deter that would've been the flood in leaf laid including planes now were in the middle of the war. It's more risky to put those planes and I'm not saying I'm against it, but it certainly has a raise the risk for us a lot and that's the kind of step that we could have taken beforehand. That might've actually different deter the attack, along with more missiles and so forth upfront you understand trumps language sometimes gets in trouble when he said originally. When we started moving on the Ukrainians. This is brilliant in Trump terms what he mean by that. Why don't always understand what he saying he does have this tendency to admire certain strongman. That's a fact or law on Putin and and she does something he admires about them and their decisiveness and I think that's what he was referring right yeah but people like to jump on that. Yeah, and then say he's out of touch. Please try to say is you can be evil and make a move that's in your best interest right here but not in the world's interests right he views things as transactions and it's a series of transactions from my observation is basic moving transactions is you did get the jump on the other guy and you put them at a disadvantage right up front so there is so there want to negotiate away the advantage of Jesse's right at the beginning I saw what I think he was saying was smart because he jumped on it quickly. I have no job. Press Secretary Kaylee radio show like no other.

Brian kill me that what they're doing with this bill is not even amid the torrential downpour of nonsense that we get from his people and manages the stand out because what we know about the book the left there there very low integrity member wires are also good at branding. This bill branded the don't say Gabriel when not only does the bill not do that the bill doesn't even mention the word day anywhere in its all it says, as the governor points out is very specifically that you cannot cannot be classroom instruction by a teacher about gender identity or sexual orientation for kids up to the doctor grade 3 and that was Matt Wallace talk about Gov. DeSantis's love for to generate governor tends to sign a bill the people able.

Don't sit gay bill with her try to do is stop talking about gender and sexuality to kids you don't know anything about. In kindergarten, first, second and third grade that is causing outrage governor dissent is not backing off William Barr, my guest's book is out. One damn thing after another memoirs of an Atty. Gen. Enough said Mr. Atty. Gen. how you feel about this bill will withstand this test of scrutiny is a federal government is threatening to take some money or financing away if it goes through. I think it will withstand scrutiny if it takes getting it up to the Supreme Court, and I think it's an entirely reasonable bill is a very reasonable to say that kids at that kind of tender age that subject matter shouldn't be raised school are you amazed we have to have this conversation. I am I am what happened with education in your mind. You have a long view of it in your book about what happened to the American education via public school system erected welcomes Christian Judeo values arrested. There was no reason to really do it. Europe is done can you expand on that the Western tradition has been that that moral formation and moral education was the job of the parents in the church and it wasn't the state's role to help tell people what the good life was in and make man in their own image and but then when least establish public schools in the middle 19th century, the religion that was taught there was was basically consistent with with the morays and the beliefs of most Americans up until 1960. 95% of the American people identify themselves as Christian and schools were basically Christian. They taught the Bible. They said the Lord's prayer and so forth and starting the 1960s.

They tried to secularize school by stripping out Christianity and then starting under the Obama administration. It was more like indoctrination wasn't taking out Christianity was putting in something else. Something else to tell someone why or why to be good. No words you say something that shall not do this then you better be able to explain why and what you do away with Christianity you tell people why they started affirmatively putting in ideology alternative ideology like critical race theory or transgender tourism and things like that some anti-American view right anti-American views and so the state doesn't have any business doing the state doesn't have any business and you know which week weird as you know, the original settlers in the United States ran away from my England because of religious liberty. But how does the income of the English run school choice, they pay for everyone's education and as long as the schools accredited. You can send your kid to Church of England school Catholic school into school Muslim school, which means you think we should head and what direct vouchers I think I think in a pluralistic society.

We can have the state hospital to the traditional beliefs of the people and undermined the authority and the religion of the family by teaching these these ideological doctrines and so I think we need to have school choice and that's do you think of the of the organic uprising that we saw the last midterm election with gentle Virginian others say what are you teaching my kid right and I like to see more governors aggressive on this and the other part of it is and I said the systemic racism that exists in our society is the public school system in the inner-city and in the power warehousing.

These black children in the inner-city and not giving them school choice. We should be having.

School choice charter schools parochial schools let the parents decide and see them line up for the year other schools. These alternative schools. My view of you and Mike pence with the two MVPs of the trumpeter Frank and Emma and I don't think there is any question for people they wanted to see I was ever present successful, but for somebody that knew, down from 20 years before I never going to be great friends with them. But even though we always were very respectful, covered even when he was waived, promoting fights when I had no idea. But to see you come in and steady the ship like you did in the sea. Mike pence provide the congressional back and understand how that that that the you know how everything ran in Congress and what he did in Congress is indispensable. What is it say both those people are really not on speaking terms with the former president who wants to be president again why, yet I think one of the things about trumpeters, it's hard for anyone to have a durable relationship with them.

Unless you are essentially dependent.

I can't think of anybody that's lasted very long. In any relationship was an independent person and I think that speaks to him. I think he has many, many strong points, but he also has failings and that's one of them would deaden handling criticism more people to push back against wants people to tell them what he wants to hear you really said the clown show around him after January be fully after the election to January 6. Let him down that path. You think that he did. He took their advice where you think he kept people around that agreed with him.

Like Janet Ellis and Rudy Giuliani and others.

I think he he's more comfortable being told what he wants to hear. And I think they were telling him with great gusto that exactly what he wanted to hear.

Most most of it was false, but he was guided by did you take Rudy Giuliani aside and say Rudy, you know this is true. No I know there's nothing there. Now I didn't you wish you did because I would've been a scandal in the Atty. Gen. privately talking to a Rudy Giuliani that I would been overstepping you ever question his lawyers and say what you basing this on. I looked at this thing like I like school staff look at this, or is there such a separation that you can't well right now.

They said they through through appropriate channels. You know they let it be known what their arguments were elected with their arguments were snuffing to make a lot of more just completely silly and based on false information to present repeated it as recently as January 13 this year.

He said that his big piece of evidence about fraud was that more people voted in Philadelphia than there were registered voters in Philadelphia and that was completely rightly you looked at it with a fresh set eyes and there was something you were spoke up absolutely at unite I wanted him to win reelection.

I went and I went in and it was the on. It was rough for me to go back into government and I did it and I wanted him to win reelection. I would've been happy if there was evidence not happy in the sense that if it turned out that he did when, but he did not win the election, and if he had one, would you want to stay actually know you made a plaintiff to the mother he roared like I don't think anybody else would've one damn thing after another memoirs of the Atty. Gen. can be a bestseller for a long time am so glad you came in hope will talk you one nation this weekend. Sure, thank you to great to meet you in person is Fox News time just network subscribe and listen to the trade going fine just for federal prosecutor and four term US Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind podcast subscriber list.com