Producers’ Pick | Kathleen Sgamma: We Need Pipelines to Send Natural Gas to Europe

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The other 90% is on private lands but I'm talking about the 10% in that case is the argument that there's no opportunities to drill for oil is just not true really, but what about the regulations you put in place and are permits. All it takes.

I haven't seen Jen socket a hard hat in the oilfields but maybe I just have have to get out more. Kathleen, us, joins us now. Kathleen is the repose of the Western energy alliance represents 200 member companies engage in all aspects of environmentally responsible exploration and production of oil and natural gas in the West. Kathleen I want you. Thanks. Want to join to be. I want you to take on Jen Saki's comments. I imagine you hear that you and your head you your head wants to explode back and but what's the problem though. We are indeed lucky that in the United States. Only 10% of our oil and natural gas production is federal because if more were federal then we wouldn't be the number one producer of oil and natural gas in the world because the federal government put a hold many roadblocks on federal lands that were lucky that the most prolific basin blocking the North Dakota Haynesville in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio. The Permian in Texas and New Mexico were lucky that those predominantly are on nonfederal lands but in the Rockies where I am in Denver.

We have a lot of public lands and the most prolific basins in the last you have public lands and it almost impossible to develop in the last without touching some federal lands or minerals, and so when we do hit a pocket of federal mineral. We have to go through this whole years long process in order to develop and help you with it. It's bad enough in normal times, but when you have an ministration that is putting up additional roadblocks and trying out the process putting up more bureaucracy starting off with more new regulations trying to starve our industry of capital, then it really becomes very difficult to operate on federal lands and I'd love to take on the 9000 permits and leases. If we have time for this right now. Go ahead. Great. So, indeed, there are about 9000 outstanding permits on federal lands, so she is correct in that respect.

However, a permit to drill is not the only parent permit that's necessary. We need rights-of-way, which also come from federal government in order to laid the pipeline and the gas gathering lines because we now because of pressure from investors and from environmental groups.

We don't want to flare at all anymore.

So we want to capture all the natural gas right away and probably a good thing, although in some senses when the nation is webinar high gasoline prices. We can't turn on those oil wells as quickly as he could in the past, but we want to reduce blurring, but we need pipelines in place to capture that gas. And guess what environmentalists stop pipelines all across the country so we can't get the rights-of-way in the pipeline to put that natural gas and we can't develop that oil well that's one reason some of those permits don't go drill. Another reason is that the federal government is so inefficient that companies have to get in hand several years of drilling permits before they can really start because they don't know how long it will take the federal government to get any one particular permit and you don't want to get into a situation where you drilled certain number of well and then you have to stop your rig to wait for federal permit because that permit can take a month to month six months a year so we do have to because of the inefficiency of the federal government.

We have had several permits in hand.

Several, but many so you might have a well pad that has eight wells on it, but that well pad can be drilled in a matter of months and then you want to move on to the next one so we need to have many years of permit in hand, and from time to start drilling and that one well or a couple wells determined not know what they really aren't enough oil and natural gas on this, particularly when I connect will all these other permits that we thought we were going to do with those in efficiency in the federal permitting system that does cause us to have that large inventory and not all of those permits get drilled so as part of the reason Excel pipeline wasn't done. This is three years to get a jump environmental challenges in court cases stopped at things from being finished 12 pipeline story started out, I think it was in the mid-2000 and they started going to all the processes and then they were required to get a permit from the Department of State because the pipeline crosses into Canada and told the that's another reason that permits don't get developed. I haven't even talked about that big environmental analysis on now.

Final analysis is great except it's used to delay projects and stretch them out for years and years and that's what happened with Keystone environmental analysis took all this time and that the Obama administration came in and stop the permit administration then restarted the permit and that of course he held the divine administration came in and stop the permit was very susceptible to government manipulation, political manipulation, and it's unfortunate that the process United States were so many not just pipelines, roads and bridges as well. So increase the cost so long and give opportunities for environmental groups to sue unmet environmental analysis and also just stop things out like a Fox News contributor transom.com daily newsletter inviting you to join the conversation every week to spend on a chalk listen no Fox News largess.com so are my book of Jamie Domino, J.P. Morgan Chase. He wants to drill more so the by demonstrations been struggling to convince oil and gas companies to increase production. That's a totally inaccurate assessment is that right well the right signals to the industry to move forward with regulation out of that is designed to starve our industry of capital. So we have signal all yet they want us to drill more now because they're in hot water because voters and Americans are beaten-down their doors because gasoline prices are high and we want you to the content drill more now but we don't have any assurance that they're going to stop with all this new overregulation and we don't have the insurance that they're knocking to put future capital at risk so that while we drill today could carry additional risk trial and so it really is chilling the marketplace nuclear testing. Could you get natural gas to your quickly. Well, we are very proud that in January we delivered more natural gas be at liquefied natural gas exports to Europe then Washington group pipelines we could export more Harvey administration approach to LNG export terminals last week, we take that is a good time pipeline to deliver the natural gas to those LNG export terminals on the coast then I would almost become the point got you ministration to move forward.

Pipeline and Ellen thanks carefully very educational phone for you guys and responses are very responsible and we needed Fox News can't just subscribe and listen to the tradeshow report federal prosecutor and four terms US Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind podcast subscriber list. No Fox News on just.com