Producers’ Pick | Bill Browder: Money Laundering, Murder and Surviving Putin’s Wrath

Bill you will purge people to unwind what was what he was up to. When a dangerous he was early on, is this the thought that you were trying to get through America's heads how dangerous he is.

I've known Vladimir Putin to be a murderer and to be a serial killer for for many years. I went around the world trying to get the United States, the European Union, the UK, Canada to gets tough on Vladimir Putin to treat them as the killer is the Mafia boss that he is, and nobody wanted to listen. Nobody wanted to hear me that they thought there must be something wrong with you you're out of your mind this you know we deal with him. He's a head of state. He's a sovereign leader.

We have to deal with them and and this is what's happened is by by Molly coddling him by not responding to his previous atrocities by not doing things by not sanctioning him away. We should've he got empowered. He realized that that he could do whatever he wanted and he could get away with it and that's why he is in Ukraine right now will tell everyone to begin ski act and how that is. Up until this invasion. The most serious thing to really hit Vladimir Putin's pocketbook. So my I had a lawyer in Russia. His name is surrogate my Nitschke. He uncovered a $230 million government corruption scheme exposed it.

He testified against the officials involved in. In retaliation, he was arrested and tortured for 358 days and murdered on November 16, 2009. Since then, I put aside my activities as a businessman and have made made in my life's mission to go after the people that killed him and make sure they face justice in the my Nitschke at named after surrogate my Nitschke is the law passed in Washington in 2012, which freezes the assets and bands the abuses of human rights violators in Russia it since been expanded to 33.

Other countries are 34 countries of my Nitschke at is the basis for which is the template for which we are now going after the Boudin oligarchs so he one of the blessings was of the chin think at the time was that Barack Obama didn't sign into an executive order. He wasn't really doing to this, but Congress wasn't John McCain was yeah and so and so this was so II was blocked at every step of the way Obama had this thing called the Russian reset. He wanted to reset relations with Russia after after the bad relations between Bush and Boudin and they had invaded Georgia already had invaded Georgia already and an Obama tried to stop me and and and it is interesting because some in in in their in America there's two sources of power there's Congress and there is the executive branch and in in Congress that we had a total bipartisan of Democrats and Republicans supporting with my Nitschke act and we overcame the Obama reset and we got the my Nitschke act in place as a law and and and because it was a law. It couldn't be reprieved, repealed, rescinded by the stroke of a pen and and it's been in place in spite of all sorts of efforts by Vladimir Putin to get rid of it and he made it his single largest foreign policy priority to get rid of it and had it survived all sorts of craziness and Russian interference.

Try to get rid of Bill giving example of how it's exercise how it's used. For example, well the that mean that the main way I've seen it. You said that in his muse many many ways it is not just against Russian snails can stem all sorts of people, but is been used against the killers of surrogate my Nitschke they're all on that list but not just them. They freeze their assets to let them travel rights of their assets get frozen when the US treasury says your assets are frozen. It doesn't even matter if you have assets in United States.

No bank in the world wants to do business with the person who's on the U.S. Treasury sanctions list because those banks will be in trouble. The US government so you can have a bank in Dubai and Switzerland and all of a sudden the accounts are frozen of that person and it's extremely devastating for anybody who's put on the sanctions and you think it Boudin felt this is no question he's felt that this is now been applied not just to make Nitschke's killers, but to all sorts of oligarchs is about 20 oligarchs from this list of one of them Roman Abramovich. One of the great richest oligarchs just today he had $7 billion frozen in the Channel Island jersey off of you out of Britain's coast. He had $7 billion, maybe even a little bit more frozen in the Cayman Islands me this this was to sell Chelsea was forced to sell Chelsea. There is even a story in the sun. One of the newspapers in London that he was begging friends for money zillion dollars a decade. He's got a high burn rate for running his lifestyle and and so you know the way I look at it is that we got a lot of weeds and a lot of good things so far more than that, I could've ever imagined.

In terms of sanctioning these people. But the one thing that we haven't done and this is the really upsetting part of the whole story is that the war is costing Boudin $1 billion a day to run it is getting $1 billion a day.

The Germans in the French and Italians buying his oil and gas as is kind of a wash at the moment he couldn't that you have the effect that he carry on with his work for a long time. If we don't if if our allies don't stop buying his oil and gas use. Let me Boudin talking about Bill and by the way Bill Brown's had Brandy Bookout go grab it up freezing order to story of money-laundering murder and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath. Here's let me Boudin talk about you. We can actually permit official representatives of the United States, including the members of this very commission headed by Mr. Miller for Jim Lindemann to the country and they will be present for this questioning. But in this case there is a there's another condition of this kind of effort should be a mutual one, then we would expect that the American's would reciprocate on Dave that I would question officials including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence service of the United States, we believe something to do with elections on the territory of Russia and we have two to request the presence of bowel enforcement person so we can bring up of the Mr. Mr. Browder in this particular case, business associates of Esther Browder earned over one half million dollars.

In Russia they never paid any taxes neither emotional United States and yet the money will stay in the country so he says you pay the taxes he would like you back with so that was a there was a meeting. It was the postgame of the trump Putin. The press was the Helsinki. Some Helsinki's Helsinki Summit 2018 president Boudin Pres. trump had a secret meeting afterwards a journalist asked about these 12 military intelligence officers and Boudin Senate bill Browder and is you know the is the his US intelligence officers and I mean you know I made it.

So on one hand is terrifying. On the other hand, I say to myself, I really achieve something because I mean if if I'd gotten under Vladimir Putin skimmed in the my Nitschke act really really upset. There's no question.

Here's what Joe Biden said yesterday cut 25. The family budget going to fill up your time should hinge on whether a dictator declares war commits genocide half a world away so he zebra genocide for the first and and good. Good for him to do that. He brought genocide: a war criminal. Previously he these he said Boudin's got ago. The thing that I was worried about as I watch these terrible images just the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen on television in of children women raped me just so so awful awful son is not even it's just hard to describe how awful it is and what might my worry is that somehow we end up going back to normal with Boudin and we can't do that if the if the leader of the free world has called him a war criminal and declared it is genocide. There's no way that that's possible and and I at any length. I think God that we that we have now defined it.

So now that is defined week. We have to finish this off. I just so you know I think the present slow to understand that the weapons are coming way too slow.

He has backed off setting of these attack helicopters according to our reporters even the Russian postcards with in considering it, we can let ME the Brits are saying you deal with America's agony of the harpoons we will give you we will give you rockets to be able to take out ships in the Black Sea from sure I don't know why would going so slow on some level I think we'd fear him losing power. We should not fear it. Bill Browder of the acquisition of the segment go out and order his book.

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Your with Brian kill me is one of the people and teenagers that they are considering using chemical weapons against the defendants and their take it very seriously. I want to remind world leaders that possible use of chemical weapons have been already discussed by depression of Terry and they might abuse it already in marry a pool with me right now is Bill Browder's brand-new book, freezing order is out now is to true story of money-laundering murder and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath and bill what people said to me you know are asking just now clued into your passion alive whose let me put what's he up to Kenny be reason with Nessie change. First off before I get to that on Zielinski. He saying that I want to buy know my intelligences again use chemical weapons they have already.

Do you think that apparently in memory of Paul there.

There is evidence of use of chemical weapons will go further. There's a question about Latimer Boudin cannot be seen to be weak and and he's week now he he's lost lots of troops and the only thing that he's got going for him is his ability to kill civilians and that's what he's gonna do and the it's can be heartbreaking whatever heartbreak we've seen in Booch in Moria, Poland and khaki of is nothing compared to what he's gonna do going forward in and we should prepare ourselves and we we in an ideal world, we should do more for the Ukrainians militarily so that they don't have to suffer these terrible human tragedies is fighting for all of us there fighting for the next step.

The Georgia invasion, the Moldovan invasion but you talk about those invasions. What about the Estonia invasion where where Estonia is a member of NATO you thieving prudence and a prudent it will be there and you put looks at what happened here and he says okay you left America let Afghanistan fault of the tele-band for the sake of 3000 troops weren't even in combat. This does America have any appetite to have a fight with us over Estonia. Probably not that that that that that was his logic for first starting this whole thing.

This calculation clearly clearly miscalculations mostly by 20,000 according to the Ukrainians.

He's was 20,000 people, which is twice as many troops that were lost in Afghanistan over 9 1/2 year war.

Zielinski leaves Ukrainians probably just collapse. He stays that is the difference in your view well and there's a lot of differences. But you can't have a mean of 70 personal Zielinski is an amazing leader and you never really know a leader until somebody is put under duress and this man was put under duress and he just rose to the occasion and it's just remarkable and laudable and brave and he is truly brave and and an amazing leader and he has led the Ukrainians to fight back the Russians and the Russians have have been totally decimated and humiliated, humiliated beyond belief with the people of rallied around Putin in Russia. I should believe those poultices is 83% approval rating. Unfortunately you should. I mean, I it's it's hard to imagine but the Russians are all thinking that that Boudin is a good guy. Ukrainians are are subhuman should be killed. Boudin is killing the subhuman people and I mean I've seen these interviews a just shock me that it's this like Nazi Germany. Now tell me what you book so I Isaiah I've just come out of the book. I spent three years working on a book tracking how the Putin regime and Boudin launders is money in the West and in the book was finished and coming out in the seven week. Where the whole world is try to figure out where Boudin's honoring his money in the West and we found out we found that in the case of the magnet scheme murder which is my lawyer's argument. Nitschke uncovered a $230 million corruption scheme, we discover that Putin got some of the money we also discovered that this one scam was one of like thousands of scams and Boudin has stolen hundreds of billions of dollars to has the government got in touch with you. I have been in touch with the government and and this is a way that you think you are listening, the treasury, that that the best way to get a government to listen is not have private meetings but is to come on your show than than the government listens and if if if I'm saying something and I know that that a million other people are hearing what I'm saying than the government will listen understood so right now daresay she let oligarchs use of the only section 12 this over hundred that's correct and and I'm I think they've that the numbers that now maybe up to 20. But there's 118 Russians on the Forbes list ritualist and what you have to know is that that when it when somebody's's and oligarch You and oligarch and less prudent, gives them permission to be in oligarch and the deal is that he gets half the money in the deal is that they do whatever he tells them to do and so everyone says will. Are there any good oligarchs or are the you know what Wu the good oligarchs answer is that in lesson oligarch is ready to go on the record and save Latimer Boudin is a war criminal. They're all part of his criminal enterprise. You optimistic. How do you think this ends everybody asked me that. What's the endgame. How does it end and the answer is I don't think it ends me that II think that the is a very low probability outcome that that the Ukrainians win, maybe, maybe 15%. I think the low probability outcome of the Russians when I think the more likely outcome is that this thing just carries on and on and on in the most horrible way. Finland and Sweden joined NATO at Finland and Sweden absolutely join NATO and and I'm it's remarkable that they haven't joined NATO so far. What I mean at, you know, why would you not be a member of NATO and when I mean it's like Russia. Russia goes in Ukraine we say would you know the Ukraine is edified by themselves. Why would Finland and Sweden. Not one of the Internet want to be member of NATO.

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