Producers’ Pick | Betsy DeVos: Schools Need Change

Let's bring the former Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, congratulations on your book on the secretary hostages no more is a New York Times bestseller.

Well, thank you so much Brian.

Great to get the message out there about how we can fix American education and hostages.

No more is a story about just doing just that, and gives us ways to do it. Americans had a front row seat.

The last two years and how the education system actually handles delivering learning to kids, and many people are very disappointed. So it's a prime time to have policy change that will support families and kids systems so I was Spence last week with Gov. Duncan and he I would say that he probably wouldn't get elected as governor of Virginia. If those school boards didn't erupt after people found out the curriculum that they were being taught their kids in the woods.

With this in parents were dismissed when the try to give some input into it. The center when you took over this job did you know a lot of this anti-American CRT was taking place while I knew that it had been continued with continuing to infiltrate in many places, but the exposure that it got in and now families living rooms during coalbed certainly brought it right in front of parents who never thought they had to worry or be concerned about their kids curriculum. It also.

Parents were told to just go home and not speak up when their schools were closed for months longer than they needed to be.

They were also told to go home and don't speak up when they saw no distance learning that was anything but high expectations and robust there were met. There are many reasons why families are unhappy with the status quo and with the system that they thought was serving their kids well.

Many families have gone on to figure out alternatives that are working well for them and many families want to do just that and policy need to support them doing that when you begin to change things and saw these this problem. How we received well. I've been at this for 35 years and I have gone head-to-head with the teachers unions every step of the way the teachers unions are at the top of the pile with preserving and protecting and expanding the status quo.

They with all their allies and in Washington DC continue to really control K-12 education in America hundred 75-year-old is done. That was it that that it was started for eight entirely different time and education itself is the least disruptive industry we have in our country and parents saw this family saw this in the last two years, and neighbors and friends inside and so there is a realization that we have got to do something different to provide better opportunities for kids across the country back and you are dealing with any part of you didn't want to put down one a part of the reform in the day that you were hired.

I remember you going to visit his score think it was, and you are still protesting the Secretary of Education things myself. I cannot believe you need security to get into a van to visit a school what was actually in Washington DC on my second day on the job and I was physically barred from the school initially now. We eventually got in and I tell the story in the book. It's a it's a sad commentary on a on on people who think that they have yelled that they have kids interest at heart. They show themselves regularly while continuing when I was trying to highlight great things happening. They would continually protest and and have dozens if not hundreds.

In some cases of protesters out yet just attacking me personally about me. It wasn't about me it's about protecting a system that's working for adults but isn't working for kids education Betsy divorce her book is Noel is with the sale of the book is out, hostages no more, the fight for education freedom in the future of the American child. So this couple stores only bring you to person the LAP in the Los Angeles unified district.

There are training teachers and staff against meritocracy that merit individualism or concepts rooted in whiteness must be challenged in schools meritocracy is synonymous with America so I am stunned by this. Are you and will let you know I'm not stunned because the LA district has had again been focused on their own ideological crusade.

They Kids out of school for nearly 2 full years and these are the kids who can least afford to be in the classroom and not be learning. We won't know the devastating effects of those lockdowns for years but what we do know is that while there busy trying to fill kids heads ideologically.

Kids are not learning to read and write and it's tragic story on FOXNews.com. National education Association, teachers unions, proposing a resolution to change mother which is commonly used in in school to birthing parent birthing parent. What the hell is that about again all the ideology that that that the system, the unions and their allies are trying to force feed to every American family and at the same time kids can't read. Kids don't know how to do math we trail the world of the rest of our peers around the world were 37 in math 18th in science and 13th in reading and this was before Colton struck so what what what we need to do is have kids focused again on being kids. First of all, and learning how to do the thing that they're going to need to have as tools when they grow up into adulthood not focus on all of this ideology and again families are fed up so want to do this.

Nicole Neely's case in point is apparent defending defending against going against this defending the lawsuit that they filed against Joe Biden's Department of Education for this whole birthing thing more cut 29 very surprised. About three weeks ago when the ministration announced the creation of the national parent and family counseling imitation lost in the mail but the more we dug into it with our friends in America first legal and fight for school. We forgot actually a significant violation of the federal advisory committee act which has to announce the creation of committees ahead of time have oversight provisions in place and be ideologically balanced and none of these. I think that conflict meet these criteria and some of things are trying to do cut 31 raises real concerns obviously much teachers unions far away they are from the concerns of average parent Van Jones that a few weeks ago that the language in here at the nail salon or at the other beauty parlor at these and these are very deeply out of touch ideologue who are in front of our children for this resolution aptly said any more money to even advance this internally and so there's not even buying among their members and the fact that the push this family is right. The whole birthing person thing and changing the pronouns and having kids bow boys who claim to be transsexuals on girls teams is the trying to rip apart the fabric. If they're not trying to destroy and denigrate our history there trying to dumb down our schools and change it what's behind us well have been a progressive ideology that has been speeded in the system that they K-12 them for decades and it's finally coming to the four people are finally knowing and understanding and realizing what has been the March that has been happening and and and thankfully you don't families have awakened and they're not going to stand for it. Were seeing were seeing in states across the country actions being taken around demanding transparency on curriculum and transparency on finances and at giving families. The economic freedom by having the money for their child follow their child to where they want their child to go to school Arizona being the first date that's about to pass or have the governor doozy signed into law a education savings account that will allow families to buy their children's education where they find the best fit for their child so they can make choices to get away from this ideology and do and to do the things that they actually during coalbed. Many of them found solutions that they want to continue. So how would you characterize your experience with the Truman administration. You almost there the entire time like a very few, as was seen dousing everyone run for the exits was it like for you.

Did you have support of the present you feel absolutely. The president was very supportive. In fact, it was his championing this notion of education, freedom, and families making the best decisions for their children was the reason why I joined the administration in the first place and he was very supportive of education, freedom of family of young people following multiple alternative pathways beyond high school to be ready for great careers and great futures not forcing every kid into a four-year college or university, whether that's the right thing for them or not. And he was he was always very supportive of of all of those goals and I had lots of latitude with my team to be able to carry out the agenda and at the end you decide to resign after January 6.

Why that day was very difficult watching what was going on and I II look at it from the eyes of children who might be watching and thought about the fact that he could have and should have done more to stop what happened at the capital.

It was a difficult it was a difficult day for me for many people and I just felt that if and when he he yelled. He he abandoned his vice president who had been loyally serving for the thoughtful term it would. It was just a bridge too far right talk to him since I have not, would you, I would be happy to, but I haven't thought that out sick to education Betsy DeVos a book is doing exceedingly well. Hostages no more is the top three with top three issues almost everybody's agenda and she was right in the eye of the storm and the fight continues. The secretary thanks so much.

Thanks so much Brian just subscribe and listen to the trade only federal prosecutor in Fort Drum, US Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind podcast subscribing with no justice.com