Second Coming Clarifications - 4

Today we call much. One of the most challenging and perhaps controversial texts of all of the New Testament Scriptures, which contain a number of details about the second coming of Christ which are not found anywhere else in the Bible, the second coming. As you know is a major theme in both first and second Thessalonians. I don't think we'd be far amiss to say it is the major theme of second Thessalonians 1st Thessalonians. It is mentioned in all five chapters and then large portions of chapters 4 and five are devoted to that subject in the second epistle, the one where and now we find significant parts of chapters 1 and two devoted to the second coming of Christ out of a short three chapter epistle and there's no end of controversy about what is contained in these verses, and indeed in the doctrine, the second coming altogether, particularly as to the timing of the rapture, whether it is pretrip or post-trip, and so forth and I continue to urge you as I have already done to maintain a respectful and humble attitude toward all different positions told you that the six commentaries that I have selected for my primary study of this epistle are divided equally. Three of them are pretrip and three of them, or are not trying to read carefully what all of these men say, and I respect them all and they are all godly men and they are all careful Bible students in but they can't all be right. They can't both be right because they made to have different interpretations of what the Scripture teaches in the Bible clearly only teaches one thing not to, but our understanding what that one thing is can be a bit challenging at times in this passage certainly bears that out. So I encourage you to avoid excessive dogmatism about your particular position. Please don't have that kind of attitude but continue to study to think. Compare different positions to consider thoughtfully what the Scriptures teach and that'll be good. That'll be helpful to you. No matter what you what you derive from your studies are going to benefit by doing careful study of God's word what today would take a verses one through five, which get us into the subject of Paul's message in this portion chapter of verses six and following the ones the rest of what we read this morning are primarily an elaboration and explanation on what he introduces in the first five verses. So what we find in verses one through five are number one. The concern number two. The corrective Paul's concern for the Thessalonians and the corrective which she sends to them to address this concern and the concern involves a major Christian doctrine and it involves the circulation of false teaching. The major Christian doctrine is the second coming of Christ which is please hear me. It is a fundamental of the faith.

Christ is coming again, and all true Bible believers believe that we just don't all agree on when and how that's going to happen, but this is a fundamental of the faith. If you are a Bible believer, you not only believe the Christ died and was buried, and rose again and ascended back to heaven, but that he is coming again. A man he is coming again, but the details and the particulars can sometimes be challenging. So Paul opens this chapter by saying our brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him. His concern involves this doctrine of the second coming of Christ described as number one. The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and number two are gathering together to him concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Perugia or Paris. See you depending on how you pronounce it of the Lord Jesus Christ language that has been used elsewhere of Christ coming so I'm addressing you concerning the Perugia, the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. By the way, the same word Peruzzi was used in first Thessalonians 4 that chap that section on the rapture of the church. So I'm addressing you concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him, that describes the rapture of the church. That's what takes place, as Paul told us in first Thessalonians chapter 4 when the Lord because he will gather his drive. He will gather the church together, and finally the church of the Lord Jesus Christ will be together will not be assemblies that will be the assembly will not be church as it will be the church will be the bride of the Lord Jesus Christ and so Paul is addressing that the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

It's very clear that these two phrases, the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him, both speak of the same event to different phrases to describe it, that's very clear.

Linguistically, because these two phrases are joined together by one single article grammatically.

Therefore this demands that these two phrases apply to the same event you cannot properly separate them exegetical it is. I have heard some attempt to do first one speaks of the rapture and the second one of the something else. I mean, but you can't do that, they are tied together very very clearly.

But then Paul also picks up 1/3 phrase in verse two, when he talks about the day of Christ, he says, we ask you not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter is a form of us, as though the day of Christ had come to know we got three phrases.

The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ our gathering together to him and the day of Christ story in many manuscripts. That is the day of the Lord and assuming that that's probably the correct reading. That then becomes a much more significant term the day of Christ, we equate that with the coming of Christ, the day of the Lord. That's a phrase that is found frequently both in the old and the New Testament speaks of a time when God comes for judgment. It really is. As you look at it in the Old Testament.

In particular, it is more of a period of time, not just one particular day, but it's a time when God comes to bring down judgment and to wrap things up on earth, and to bring everything to consummation. So Paul says this is what I'm talking about talking about the coming of Christ talking about the day of the Lord talking about our gathering together unto him. His concern involves a major Christian doctrine because of the circulation of false teeth. He refers to in verse two we ask you not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of the Lord had come, something his clearly unsettled the Thessalonian believers. Paul describes that as being shaken in mind. On the one hand, and troubled.

On the other hand, door joining the two together.

They don't have to be on the other hand shaken in mind some your Bibles may really quickly shaken. There is that element in the language here something that happened very quickly something that happened I would take it fairly soon after Paul's departure.

Remember, he had been in Thessalonica, driven out by persecution went further south on the Greek peninsula went to Athens Minister there for a while left Athens went to Corinth where he ministered for a year and 1/2 and established the church and easily record 20s writing back to Thessalonica to help them and perhaps to answer questions which they had sent to him and he indicates that I'm rather surprised that you have been disturbed that you been shaken so quickly after my departure, Paul use similar language in the Galatian epistle you remember is that I can't believe that you are so quickly departed from the gospel to a false gospel which is not a gospel it's another gospel. How can you move from the true gospel to a false gospel so quick. This is not the gospel.

Paul is talking about here, but it is a fundamental doctrine. He says I'm concerned that you have been shaken so deeply you are disturbed of mind about this thing something had unsettled them.

Something had deceived them.

We know that for verse three he says let no one deceive you.

That's referring back to what is described in verse two. The not shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of the Lord had come. That's the error that's the deception. Somebody was encouraging them to believe that the day of the Lord had already come out exactly in every detail what Paul means by that word left to ponder, but we know it has something to do with the second coming of Christ, and we know that the Thessalonians were concerned that something had already come and left them out or something had already come and left them in a special danger. Something had deceived them, and Paul doesn't know exactly what the source of this error is but he says it must come from one of these three things either a false prophecy or false teaching or false epistle. Don't be shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit spirit that is as a prophetic spirit that they of course the gift of prophecy was still in operation. Paul had worn in the first Thessalonica salute to be sure you test prophecies very carefully. Don't forget them, but don't believe everything that claims to be a prophetic word from God. John, in his first epistle said try the spirits to see if they are of God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world and so now Paul makes reference to a spirit that is a spirit of prophecy, a false spirit and he says this error may have come from false prophecy someone who claimed that they were receiving word from God that they did not receive the probably said things like the Lord revealed this on to me.

The Lord told me this. A lot of people are afraid to question that were told to whom I to question that the Lord told you this, that must be right. You had a dream about this.

The God gave you shirts used to tell them it's come from God that it must be right by. I must believe it. Paul said no no no no no no, even in the day when prophecy was still in operation. You had to be on constant guard against false prophecies.

False prophets, false claims people say Lord told me this when he didn't sometimes line between their teeth and knowing it but we don't always know, sometimes they may have been deceived if they think the Lord told them something that is true and that's why we constantly have to test these things so he says maybe this error came from a false prophecy. Many came from a false teaching, either by spirit or by word that means a message, a verbal teaching somebody had gone off to a Bible conference somewhere in Thessalonica, conducted by one of the false teachers who were already there. They set up shop in Thessalonica to try to deceive the believers. Somebody went off to one of their sessions and they came back and they said all I heard the most amazing messy.the most amazing servant, and pretty soon error was spreading the church that came from a false message that can be traced back to a false teacher, a verbal proclamation that somebody sat under a minister so-called who was saying these things and they earn it with their own ears, but again they didn't carefully tested by the word of truth, and so they brought back Aaron introduced into the church or Paul says it might even have come from a false epistle by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us for already. That early counterfeit epistles of Paul recirculating ball makes reference to that.

The last part of this book when he says in chapter 3 verse 17 the salutation of of Paul with my own hand, which is a sign in every epistle, so I write and we know that this second Thessalonians was a very early epistle, maybe the second one of the ones Apollo theater included in our New Testament no more than the third at the most and already that early.

Paul was having to do something to authenticate the the. The reality, the authenticity of his own epistles, and so he took the pan from the secretary from the amanuensis at the end of the epistle and he wrote a verse or two with his own hand, so them and they would recognize his handwriting and he says don't you accept an epistle that comes in my name, unless you see my handwriting. At the end. Otherwise it's a counterfeit.

Can you imagine this early on church was being bombarded by false prophecies claiming to be a word from God. False messages preached by people claiming to be ministers of God's word and even counterfeit epistles that were claiming to have come from Paul. They were really getting at work for.

They were getting slapped up to face one side and the other so there was something that unsettled them and I think were beginning to understand why that was and how it could be so there was something that had deceived them, and now we realize at least where it may have come from those three sources, something that confused them.

Paul says, your confusion is that you have been led erroneously to believe that the day of the Lord has come. As I say exactly what they understood that to mean is not crystal clear. Part of that is explained when we get to verse five were bulging simply says don't you remember when I was with you I taught you these things so Paul has done some teaching in Thessalonica about the second coming, which she knows they have heard and will remember if he calls it to their mind and he's just touching on some of the things that he said and we say wait a minute Paul slow down and tell us everything you said.

So we have the benefit of it all doesn't do that.

So we have to deal with what Paul by the spirit of God.

What God Almighty intended for us to have. But they had been taught that the day of the Lord is already, what did they mean by that. Did they believe that Christ had come to rapture of the saints, and they were left behind, possibly what were they saying this may be more likely he told us about the great tribulation. The terrible tribulation that's coming and we are experiencing persecution they were that's been dealt with elsewhere and we think we must be the tribulation.

Is this a persecution seems to fit the description of this tribulation that you are talking about.

And so our only conclusion is, since the tribulation is in connection with the coming of the Lord in our only conclusion is that we must be in the tribulation and work were concerned about that.

Paul said this is an error.

This is an error gotten wrong information about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ about our gathering together unto him about the day of the Lord.

That's the concern that Merck brings is therefore to the corrective.

In verses three through five. Here is what will correct the error.

Three things number one know that something must come first. Something must come first before the day of the Lord is come number two. Know what to be looking for not only know that something must come first, but you need to know specifically what you're looking so that you can when that comes then you know that the day of the Lord is at hand.

Number three you need to know what your Bible teaches you need to like everything take this back to the touchstone of God's word. So first of all know that something must come first. Let no one deceive you. Verse three, by any means for that day. Obviously a reference to the day that is been talking about that day will not come unless something's got a come first. Something's got a come first unless knowing that something must come first. Will dispel the deception that you are now in the grip of knowing this. Something must come first. If you understand this clearly then that will remove the confusion that you are now struggling with.

So number one know that something must come first to go beyond that and know what was going first one know what you are looking for the two things he tells us that they will not come unless number one.

The falling away comes first, and number two the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition. Two things have to come first.

What are the number one the great apostasy number two the appearance of the Antichrist. First of all the great apostasy. The falling away comes first, the apostasy comes first, know that causes us to pause and think.

Think. Think. Think there has been apostasy all along. Even in this first century, there's apostasy. What is apostasy. Apostasy is rebellion or departure or abandonment of a previous position in its noun form. It is used only of religious or political defection. People who formally believe this, so now they don't.

People who formally were committed to this another.people who formally align themselves with this and now they are no longer aligned with it. We see a lot of apostasy in our day. But it's not new.

We see in our day and were tempted to say well this is really getting bad.

Maybe it is but since we haven't lived in every century we don't really know how bad it was in previous centuries, but we do know it existed in every century we are a bit shaken art with when the somebody writes hymns are using Christian worship suddenly announces one day that he no longer believes the Bible. He never longer believes in Jesus Christ. He no longer is a Christian while or that come from dying back or when someone who is pastoring a mega church and who has written books that many people are studied and he announces one day that he no longer believes the Bible.

He no longer believes in Christ.

He no longer is a Christian, and we say while what is this apostasy. People who professed to know Christ and to follow him and to believe the Bible who announced that they no longer do so now. The day they announced it is not the day they defected. It starts in the heart over period of time until finally they get to the place where they can't live with attention anymore, they can't live with hypocrisy anymore. They have probably known for a long time that they didn't really believe it for whatever purposes they were pretending to would now they can no longer live with that. And so they just come out and say I no longer believe apostasy but as I say it's been going on since the first century. Paul talks about a number of people in his day that departed from the faith, to his great sorrow.

One of them was a man that he trusted with with ministry assignments and then the day came when he said Demos has forsaken me, having love this product present departed into forget where he went to go to Thessalonica forget where he went pretty department apostasy and others. Likewise, Jesus talked about apostasy in the before his second coming factors.

One statement he made the people puzzled over. I'm one of them. He said when I returned will I find faith with the Son of Man when he returns find faith on the earth. What's the answer that question yes or no, something he saying no, I don't think that can be right. The Bible is clear there will be faith on the earth when Christ returns. So what is he saying not sure, but he seems to be pointing to departures that are unsettling and troubling, yet that's the reality.

Yet Paul here is talking about apostasy being a sign of the coming of the day of the Lord. The day will not come.

It will not come unless not apostasy without the definite article apostasy in general, which is already always going on, but unless the apostasy occurred. What do I make of that I make of it that there is going to at one point be the apostasy to end all apostasy's the apostasy, the great one. The final one, the big one. That one comes you'll know what you'll know it's here. Don't know what happened is so cute Judy so unbelievable, it's going to involve evidently the turning of thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ who are going to turn and say we no longer believe in him and I think in all likelihood the great apostasy is going to be closely tied together with the man of sin. I think he's going to lead this great apostasy so though there are two signs, two things to look for.

They are connected and so the second thing to look for is the antichrist. Let no one deceive you by any means for that day will not come unless number one.

The falling away the great apostasy comes first, and number two man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, then verse goes on to describe it was so many different words and phrases that it almost becomes tedious but every every word and phrase is important and I called this man the antichrist was not called that here, but that's the term John uses in first John 218 and elsewhere and I I don't know anybody who does not think that these two things are the same.

What John is talking about what Paul is talking about is one of the site of first John 218, little children, it is the last hour and as you have heard that the antichrist definite article the antichrist is coming, we know that many antichrist general not definite article. Many antichrist plural have come by which you know it is a last out what John is telling us what is what I just explained along with this general apostasy that has been present in every age there have been many antichrist. Those who oppose Christ to have been encouraging this apostasy in every age, but there will come some day. The big one. Not one of these little antichrist, of which there have been hundreds and thousands could call them false teachers you call the false prophets you can call them anybody who is opposed to Christ. He tries to lead other people away from him, but one day there's going to come. The big one, the antichrist and that's what Paul is talking about here. The man of sin, the lawless one. He is the man of sin or lawlessness which means he's the embodiment of lawlessness. All fallen sons and daughters of Adam have rebellion in our hearts.

Lawlessness in our hearts we don't like to be under law. We don't like to be under authority. We don't like to be under restrict. We don't like to have to obey anybody in particular, not God. But this one when it comes he's going to exhibit this in the most blatant, most obvious the most public the most defiant manner that has ever occurred.

This is the big man of lawlessness, the embodiment of lawlessness here as we are told here the man after post is the word, and that's a word that is used of a human being, a human man, though I have listened respectfully to those who teach that this man of sin and second Thessalonians 2 is not an individual. It is different things are proposed. The papacy for one know as a goes on over many centuries and other possibilities at this point in my understanding I continue to think and study and listen and I offered some very almost completely persuasive and convincing presentations along that line. But I backed away from them because as I study this passage. It just seems very clear to me that Paul is talking about an individual. A man, a real life human being one man who is going to fit this description. Not a principal, not a system, not a succession of men and this man is going to be revealed. We are told, that means the valence can be pulled back.

He was there for a period of time, but the proper type. The veil is pulled back for him to be exposed, which is exactly the same work that is used of the coming of Jesus Christ. He's going to be revealed. He's there any splendored deity glory in heaven and that the proper time availability pulled back and he's going to be revealed. He is will before that happens man of sin is going to be revealed.

He's described as the son of perdition that description is used of only two people in the Bible you know the other one is Judas. Jesus called Judas, the son of perdition.

John 1712, son of perdition, a mean son of destruction, one doomed to destruction Judas is a man of perdition. This antichrist is the man of perdition. He is already marked out for eternal destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, he opposes with strong opposition with a determination to eliminate anything and everything that is loyal to God. He exalts himself above all that is called God. He exalts himself with excessive self-promotion above all that is called God or that is worshiped. In other words, he not only opposes Christianity and the God of the Christian Bible, but he opposes all religions of every kind anywhere he is determined that he is going to be the only one worshiped in all the world and were told he sits as God in the temple of God, what temple.

Some believe that this will be the literal Jewish temple rebuilt in Jerusalem during the tribulation. Maybe so there's not a lot of time for that to happen but it could happen quickly.

I suppose sometimes construction projects are amazing. No temple there. Now, but if that's true, that doesn't point very strongly toward I'm getting ahead of myself. Doesn't point very strongly toward a pre-tribulation rapture because we got have all this happen. First, maybe it's not the literal tribulation temple.

Some believe that this is a phrase that is symbolic and summarizes all the acts of blasphemy kind of roles them into one phrase or the most blasphemous things anybody could do would be to set themselves up in the temple of God, whether this is figurative. Whether this is literal.

I frankly do not know but I do know that this one does commit the greatest and most blatant and infamous act of blasphemy against God, that anybody has ever done.

He does all this we reach, showing himself that he is God. He claims to be God, and he demands exclusive worship for himself.

So were talking about the corrective to the air. Number one know that something must come first. Number two.

Know what to be looking for two things. The great apostasy in the antichrist to appear. Number three. Know what you Bible teachers be anchored in God's word and that's the force of verse five. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things, don't you remember my apostolic teaching. It hasn't been all that long ago when I called was personally present with you and talk you accurately about the second coming of Christ with a lot of details very obviously I taught you these things I now remind you of them.

I call you back to to them again. We wish we knew everything that Paul taught. But we do know that Paul gave them the absolute truth in his apostolic teaching, but they are having trouble with that they're forgetting it. Don't you remember don't you remember what I taught in Paul's former teaching is being overshadowed by the present error. This latest phenomenon that came along wherever it came from false prophecy falls messenger counterfeit epistle wherever it came from. It had strong impact. It was the great latest phenomenon. The latest fad. Have you heard this, have you considered this. Wow, this is new. This is great this is recent. This is more sensational. This came from a more charismatic teacher Paul we know from his own descriptions was not a particularly arresting preacher in his style and in his presence there were others much more personable than he was seeing himself says some of them were good men like a policy.

Peter were much more personable than Paul but that means that false teachers could come along with a charismatic personality with a with a great magnetism about them and suck people in my their personality so that people were more impressed by the personality than they were by the accuracy of what they taught a lot of people that way.

In our day are there would be so many false teachers that were not true. Paul says sweep all that aside and remember what you been taught in other words, divine revelation must be constantly reviewed. I gave it to you a few months ago. Now you are being deceived by something else, go back to what you know, go back to what I taught you review it. New claims when they come along must be tested by divine revelation because the familiar is sometimes just becomes almost like wallpaper. Got become so familiar with that. You don't pay much attention you think you know what you don't give a lot of love study, and then something comes along and takes your attention away from it and before you know what your being swept along by every wind of doctrine, get back and study the wallpaper again go back to the to the former teaching get back to the divine revelation get back to the infallible word of the living God, and I think I have time for a few lessons out of this passage.

That's my exposition of lesson number one is just this reminder of the multiplicity of errors that were already circulating in Paul's day, how much more in our day when we had 2000 years for them to develop errors in regard to Christian doctor numerous errors in regard to Christian doctrine come from a multiple paucity of sources, even as they did in Paul's day and many in our day are easily deceived by error and that's why we have them back to the word of God and I get to moment the importance of sound doctrine, but I don't want to to not have enough time to deal lease with some thoroughness, though as necessary brevity about what this says about the timing of the rapture. I'm going to quote one of the pre-tribulation authors that I read tonight. I respect this man and he said and I quote the day of the Lord begins after the rapture and includes a tribulation and the millennium the day of the Lord begins after the rapture and includes a tribulation and the millennium is Paul dealing with the speed people about their error concerning the day of the Lord is. If it's already come. And Paul says let no one deceive you. It will not come unless how you going to make that fit the pre-tribulation rapture position. What I guess what basically you have to do is say well, Paul doesn't really mean you because it may.

I'm not just simplistic. I know the thinker just seems obvious to me that all Paul would have to say is look, folks, you're still here. It hasn't come the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him in the beginning of the day of the Lord all begins with the rapture of the saints of the first thing is, you're going to go up, you're going to get out of here before any of these things really develop then why my trying to say all these things to encourage and comfort you. All I gotta say is your presence on planet Earth is the proof that Christ hasn't come in this way, he hasn't come in the way that the pre-tribulation rapture position teaches because if he had, they wouldn't be there then is Paul speaking to people who are saved during the tribulation so forth. But that doesn't follow the flow of the passage as I see it I just struggle with struggle. Now I will just raise this issue and I understand it is a concern. I don't have time to deal with it thoroughly but I do understand that if you don't accept the pre-tribulation rapture position and think that Paul is saying as it seems to me he is saying that these things have got to come first before Christ returns. Then you've got to struggle with the question of eminence. How does this fit into the to the doctrine of eminence.

The any moment return of Christ. If in fact there are the signs that must come first, were not looking for the coming of Christ were looking for the coming of the antichrist.

I understand that objection and all I can say about it at this time is I would just encourage you to study all the passages in Scripture to talk about something happening quickly realize an awful lot of them are puzzling.

They don't all fit into what the language seems to indicate something about coming quickly. Something about something happening soon that doesn't sound in the Scripture, the way it sounds to our ears today. That's as much as I can say is I really don't have a thorough answer for that. I'm just dealing with what seems apparent to me in this passage which brings me to enter the importance of sound doctrine just remind you, folks, you can't go by tradition, what you been taught all your life nor you can't live the Christian life successfully by emotion is the way I feel about it. We must give ourselves the doctor must give ourselves the study of God's word and keep it up. All the rest of our lives that brings me to my final lesson about studying the Bible and about Bible interpretation.

I want to say to things what we gotta be careful of is that we are employing.

I've used these terms before but I remind you of them. We have to be sure that we are employing exegesis not exegesis. Resentment exegesis means drawing out of the passage what is actually there. I exegesis means putting into the passage what we think ought to be there, but isn't there X means out of we have that in our word exit. We got exit signs all around the auditorium.

You know that means means this is the way out means out exegesis is drawing out of the Scriptures. What God put in the eye, exegesis, and pronounce that word face whatever it is I exegesis means into another Greek preposition into and it's awfully easy to take our ideas of what we think ought passage ought to say, and we read it we see those things in there. We just kinda reshuffle things and make it fit our presuppositions and voilą no problem here, but you didn't get that out of the passage you put that into the passage to be careful and that is linked closely to my second point about Bible interpretation you've heard this before as well that his context is King. If you're not sure how something should be understood. Keep looking at it not in isolation. One phrase one word, even one verse. But keep connecting it with what goes before and behind because the context is critical.

Gotta word where you could find a Alexis Grigg dictionary that would give you a definition for that word that would fit what you would like that passage to say, but it seems to be very awkward in the context see every Greek word has a range of meanings, like every English word.

Gotta dig dictionary. One of my office that is so big I keep it on a stand because I can't. I can't pick it up and look around a minute could. It's this very awkward. Keep it on a stand where I could turn the pages without having to lifted it so big and if I want to know all the possible definitions for English word I go to that most the time I pull out a smaller one for my shelf, but I know most you don't even do that anymore. You just Google but I'm still the old-fashioned guide select I use books if I want to know all the definitions I get the big one that doesn't have all I want them all I need to go to the Oxford. I don't have.

Then I'd have to Google but done some English words have 2025 30. Definitions will they can't all be the right definition of this particular place with that word is used, whatever. In reading.

So how do I decide of those 25 or 30 different possibilities.

What is the meaning of the word, not anywhere.

What is the meaning of the word here.

Context designs read it in its context and find which of those possible definitions fits the context beyond that, no dogmatic about the meaning of this passage I give you what I think it means what I've come to this point my study and understanding and respectful of other positions. I'm not going to fuss anybody not to do writing to pressure anybody you may be able to help me to come to different understanding dual bombardment. Once I can only handle so many emails and so many books but let's install the humble students together and when we get to heaven will all agree, shall we pray father, thank you for your word. Help us to understand that help us to be Christlike in our use of it as we ask in Jesus name